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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • Grayteful
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    Thoughts on this Box Set and Other Comments

    Hi – this is long, but am trying to keep it digestible:
    Am a little late to the conversation here, and am a little surprised and dismayed at some of the comments on this box set offering. I’m no spring chicken myself (turn 59 next month), although as a Deadhead, I’m only 2+ years along. That means several relevant things:
    1) Certain things I write about get my blood boiling, and I’ve written with adrenaline flowing about them, and the effect on the reader usually causes him/her to arch his/her back in a defensive posture. But if I phrase what I’m saying properly (sacrificing no substance), keep it third- or first-person, the point I try to make comes across and doesn’t elevate the temperature. It also gives me time to consider whether my sentence is weaponized.
    2) I’m old enough to have seen the actual Grateful Dead in my younger years (but didn’t). At that time (where I lived) they (and their retinue) were considered more a curiosity and freak phenomenon than anything else, my discretionary funds would come post-college (years away), and my interest was elsewhere.

    This set is a standalone purchase item, not a mandatory part of some subscription, so the choice to purchase (or not) is up to each of us – no strings. If powers that be made a mistake in offering it, data from its sales will bear that out and they will adjust – they don’t want to be buried in inventory that stays unsold, and they exist to satisfy ongoing listener interest (and not hemorrhage money).

    About the box set:
    I’ve become more familiar with the GD sound and repertoire of the early and later 1970s (because of what’s been offered on dead.net), and with that lopsided exposure, I can’t say I have a favorite era. This Giants Stadium box set covers chronological ground I’m not as familiar with. So for listening, I like to alternate eras – it’s most enjoyable as that way it all stays fresher to me.

    Video?
    The offering of DVD/Blue-Ray of the movie content as part of the set may be a trial balloon. I don’t know where I saw it (it was a while ago) but Lemieux was quoted as saying not to expect much additional motion picture stuff for purchase (as there wasn’t enough interest). This offering (seen last night in select cinemas) is an opportunity for dead.net to get a good feel of the pulse of people’s interest in owning it (apart from viewing released content on some web site). If it sells briskly, it could indicate whether dead.net eventually offers the RFK show (an example, which they ran a couple of yrs ago at MUATM) or others on video.

    I can’t comment on strength of these particular shows (I don’t know enough about them), but quantity of shows/disks feels about right to me, and the price is good. For outer packaging, I don’t need something to double as furniture – I just want it reasonably solid/protective and hope it fits nicely onto the bookcase shelves I use now for Dead audio content (without wasting a lot of space).

    I didn’t see the movie (I had yard work to do and had to get up at 0430 Friday) - I expected performances in the sets to probably be hit-and-miss (Jerry’s health and vitality were fluctuating by this time), but generally New York audiences for whatever reason are reputed to elicit good GD performances – it’s a major market with high expectations, and reactions are reputedly loud and lively. If it coincided with the time when crowds got too big, that could have affected performance quality too. Vince/Bruce, from what little I’ve heard of them, did some things on keys I prefer to some I’ve heard Brent do (no slight intended to Mr. Mydland) – it struck me as a comparatively clean sound (not as laced with gimmicks), that served the music very well.

    Because Thursday I was working outside and sweating after getting home from my job, I glanced at the box set announcement (too) quickly. I didn’t read it correctly, because I thought only 1000 sets would be available. Thinking about it later that evening, and the fact that the DaP offerings are now 20,000 quarterly, the number seemed disproportionately small. On that assumption, I hurriedly ordered the blue-ray option Friday morning after dressing post-shower, and only afterward saw that 10,000 total copies (not just 1000) of various types will be available. First (fleeting) sentiment was: I WANT MY MONEY BACK! Yeah that really happened, but the last part was a “what if?” notion I just found funny. I look forward to seeing/hearing this box set.

    In peace, gratitude, self-control, and good humor. Have a Grayte day, everyone.

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    Mozart and "Touch Head Box" irony

    Dennis, love Amadeus, fantastic movie, and spot on to the noodling.

    Wilfred, would love to see that.

    Just realized that this box is tailor made for the so-called Touch Heads, and there's not a single version of the Top 10 hit in the release. They did play it as an encore at the 7/10/89 show, but I guess they can't release it due to Dylan's presence. But in the other 4 shows, it doesn't pop up once. Good setlists with variety, looking forward to that Foolish Heart.

    I also have to say I like that Jeffrey Norman was so involved with getting this right that he bowed out of mixing a Dave's. I guess after having to rush through Europe '72 and Spring '90 which didn't use the multitracks, he thought it should have the care and brilliant sound of Spring '90 TOO, which sounds head and shoulders above the other boxes due to its glorious multitrack mixing.

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    jrf68 makes six!!....

    ....rise up slackers! Time to take what is rightfully ours! /s

  • LedDed
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    Well EXCUUUUUUUSSE me!

    I loved John Belushi, for anyone not in on that.

    Classical sounds different because of the conductor, the hall, how old and expensive the instruments are, how good the symphony itself is, the players ability to interpret and execute, the quality of the recording, humidity.

    But the deal is, the notes are on the page and you play them as they are, to the best of your ability. Not a lot of mystery in that. Nothing "wrong" with classical music. I've been moved as much as anyone by a fantastic piece, it's great music to use in film scores, etc. Elevators.

    Anyone can argue any point they want. "Phil was like an orchestra unto himself." Yeah, sure, and the acid was really good that day.

    Peace.

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    speaking of classical and mozart

    I do have a video on youtube of myself performing a theme and variations on a theme by mozart for classical guitar. From it, perhaps you can discern my age? :-)

    PM me and I will supply you the link! Have a grateful day everybody!

    First show: 7-9-95

    P.S. I'm not a robot.

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    I’m about a decade behind you all, but always loved saying “Partying like Daryl Strawberry and the 86 Mets”...whew...those were the days, glad they’re over!!!

    Dennis-not one to tell folks how to spend their money, but man you should really pony up for a decent turntable. For decent price (around $400), but still excellent upgradable quality you can get a Planar One which is what I have. Only saying because you always mention purchasing the vinyl but not playing it and many of these releases are brought up a notch IMO. I’m not one to talk, LOL, owning and buying new Cd box sets & subscriptions, and not owning a CD player. They all still get ripped and listened to but the quality probably suffers. I do think you would be pleased with the quality of the vinyl. Would be interested to know what you think if and when you decide to pull the trigger.

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    Slacker...

    been busy, busy, busy ruining other peoples music...
    ;o)

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    Slackers...

    Been here so long, I got to calling it home.

    Wherever I go the people all complain. This is my life to a tee.

  • Dennis
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    Alvar and Mozart

    Thing I always like from the movie about Mozart was the king complaining "too many notes". Kinda what you get from people when you try and introduce them to the Dead :-)

  • Dennis
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    All you 51 year olds,,,,,

    Slackers, what took you so long to get here!

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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....THAT'S the sound that perked my ears back in the day. The old news is now the new news.

Interesting article on the above. There have also been articles in British newspapers on ketamine, suggesting that it could be more effective in helping people with depression than the old tried, tired and tested medications.
Certainly, my mental health improved exponentially after my period of taking mushrooms regularly between 1987 and 1993. I didn't take them because I felt I was suffering from depression, but looking back to my behaviour before, during and after, it seems likely I was. Between 1987 and 1993 I met my two main partners and returned to university to get a professional qualification. The second relationship last 10 years and the career 20. Not a lifetime-but long enough!

5 16 72 Big River soundcheck....Garcia singing lead. Everything sounds better with Jerry on it....why Garcia passed the baton on vocals? He was (is) a humble soul.

Also love Stella Blues from 1972.

Check out 8 21 72 BCT and 11 19 72 Texas.....

Then, to blow out the pipes: DARK STAR 2.13.70 and 4.28.71

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY Love My Girl! Was kinda out of pocket yesterday and missed wishing you a very Happy Birthday, but trust you'll be continuing the festivities throughout the weekend.

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Couldn't find the soundboard, but listening to The DEAD's "Days Between" from 9/19/03 via the "OK" AUD on the Archive. Always been a favorite from the latter-day song book, but even more so now. Glad Gollum sparked your recommendation. Now if I could just find that soundboard. . .

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Likewise, could not find the 9/19/03 soundboard. If anyone finds it, please let us know !

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The email announcing this set has a button to pre-order the high-def flacs. I don't see it on dead.net. I don't buy physical products anymore (except Dave's because there's no downloads). I'm wondering why no high def link on the site. Anyone out there know?

Love the high def flacs. The Northwest "box" sounds AMAZING when played on the big fat stereo.

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Dyslexia strikes again. If I actually read the product description, it says flacs will be available on release day. I tend not to read everything because it takes forever. That and the fact that I cooked my coconut when I was young.

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Suppose you could add Chicago, Baltimore, etc. to the list.

"One way or another, this darkness got to give."

That's my choice for today's listening; Bill Graham's intro is so appropriate today.

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So yesterday I drove down to Phoenix (about a three hour drive) for a concert at the Musical Instrument Museum...I arrived in town about 1:30 PM which gave me plenty of time to shop at a few music and book stores...lo and behold I found a used Fillmore West box set for $99!!! Granted the box itself was slightly beat up but everything else is fine...so so so happy...found a ton of other good stuff, pretty much blew my allowance for the next three weeks but das cool...now the Mrs won't be home until tomorrow night from visiting relatives in So Cal so time to blast the tunes...I went to Phoenix to see Peter Asher and Albert Lee... a killer two and a half hour show of great stories and music...when I left the gig a massive thunderstorm was drenching Phoenix and slowed me on my way home...got home about 2:45 AM and was at work by 7:30 AM...yuck...done for the day now, time to scare the neighbors!!! After a nap of course...

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Brilliant guitarist-possibly the best country player ever to come out of these fair isles. I saw both him and Peter Asher, together with James Burton about three years ago supporting Jerry Lee Lewis. I was hoping Albert Lee and James Burton would come out and play with the Killer on a few numbers-but it wasn't to be.

I don't see much in common with the Dead and European Art Music or whatever we're supposed to call Classical music these days either. Phil might argue though, and Seastones does have connections to some Varese and Stockhausen. The only rock artist I can name who is truly fluent in classical music compositional techniques is Zappa. "Make A Jazz Noise Here" being a perfect example.

Nappyrags was my innocent attempt to come up with a user name for a Dylan site i used to frequent ages ago until they shut down...I was going for Napoleon In Rags but was told it was already in use so....I thought it was hilarious when someone from the UK asked me if I knew it was slang for baby diapers (Is this true?) so now you know the rest of the story...

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He is one of my favourite guitarists, and it was great to see and hear him support Jerry Lee. In fact, I was so impressed I bought a signature James Burton telecaster a few days later. Its a pearl white one-not one of the flamejobs, but it sounds great and plays like a dream. Although I think James Burton must have more fingers than me.

And yes...a nappy is a kind of underpants for babies in the UK.

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I saw him touring in The Hot Band in either ‘75 or ‘76 as part of Emmylou Harris’s backing band. Great guitarist. Great show.

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Guess it fits as most of my friends will tell ya I'm fulla crap most of the time...

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I saw Albert Lee with Emmylou's Hot Band at the Olympia in Paris, right after Burton left in 1977; caught James Burton with Jerry Lee at the Circle Star in San Carlos in 1984 or 85, excellent show; JLL also had Bob Moore on bass and Buddy Harman on drums, both of them Nashville studio A veterans.... I think Hank Ballard opened the show; incidentally, He wrote and recorded the original Tore Up Over You.
Another of my favorite Country guitar slingers is Roy Nichols; he played with the Maddox Bros. and Rose, and was with Merle Haggard's Strangers for the rest of his life. Yes...and Don Rich was awesome too!

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Ordered one Giants Stadium boxset. They have charged me for two. I have tried to contact Dead.net and Warner's. Deadnet says you have to deal with Warners. No response.

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Heads up UK heads , you can pre order the one off show 3cd set on amazon for £22 quid . ( cheaper than dead.net and no potential postal issues ) Probably best avoid dead.net for the time being . Unless of course you absolutely have to have the box set . 😺

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So, I unfortunately have only had a chance to read all these posts within the last 14 hours. There are so many things to say, but I feel brevity is best here. I will never allow someone else's "opinion" to upset me. People who need to validate themselves by insinuating that their likes are more "valid" than others' are simply suffering from an ego imbalance that is likely from long ago. I guess the young folks call them "trolls" now. I was told about 20 years ago, "Other peoples opinions of me are none of my business". That has served me well.
As far as the box, I will be happy to buy the single show option, grateful to save a little money.
Regarding Dave's 31, on second listen, I like it better than first. I also really like the 3 "bonus" tracks. I'm surprised no one has talked about the Cosmic Charlie tease at the end of Truckin'. One of my favorite moments of the show.

P.S. I realize that brevity played no part of this post!! 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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Doe not seem like a lot of excitement for the box. The number will be 10,000. It reminds me of Spring 90 too. I bought it but was unhappy with the release. It turned out to be a real sleeper the best sound of the boxes so far. The UJB on rolling stone .com sounds better. I think people will be happy with this one. The box last year was a bit of a disappointment. My two favorite years but not the greatest shows. Did Dave leave the door open for maybe another release this year. Did he now say there are things still to come this year. Release 8-1-73 and 2-9-73 . They both outclass Rfk and watkins glenn in my opinion

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Hey, I've noticed that I often have multiple items in my cart. If I add something, close out without purchasing and then later go back to purchase it, the original and newly added items are both there. I've always noticed before I've finalized my purchase, but thinking this may have happened to you.

Good luck!

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Thanks for the tip. That's what I will be doing.

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I really like as a deadhead when you stumble on something you have never seen or heard before!!! (Like the 78 July Soundboards)... You even get to see Keith singing!!!! ANyone have any color on this... was anyone there?? So clear to see also... Keith is amazing on the piano... I am a Donna fan and her voice is amazing especially on Stir it UP... Heard about the show before but never saw or heard it... Thanks Bob t

Where are they performing, the Bat Cave?

My basement seems bigger..

I have to wonder.. because I know what JGB used to cost and how small this place looks. How could they afford to carry band around the country playing in places this small?

On my first listen, just getting to the second song, After Midnight. I wonder who the apparently buzzed biker looking dude is that took over the mike asking for country songs or something?? The look on Keith's face is priceless.

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I should read posts completely before posting.
I got all excited 'cause I thought he was talking about Jerry and Merl from 9-5-73 on the S.S. Bay Belle. Also in N.Y. City Harbor for a Hells Angels party. Billy the Drummer on the kit. Also, supposedly the first appearance of The Wolf.
I guess the Angels liked to party on boats...?

I don't fart...I'm a robot. A Harley robot. A knucklehead. I "exhaust".
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now that things have settled down a bit here, I will comment on this box. I will not order it. I have enough Dead. I won't go to the site. I will not order it. I can't not order it. I have not heard 3 of these 5 shows. I will not order it. I went to the site. I will not order it. I can't not order it, I must have all dead releases. Why am I so addicted to this band? I can not not order it, I must order. I will wait for the reviews and then order, I can not not order, I am a sucker for the dead. Why can't I only order the video? I won't order this box. I ordered the box, why can't I just say no? It's like a drug, I am addicted. I need help. Can I cancel my order? No, don't cancel my order. Will it be a good box with non skipping cd's? Will I be happy? Will the sun shine on my backdoor someday? It's all too much, I must get away from here. I must order. I will wait. Damn it, why is this such a hard decision? It's just a box, why am I so addicted to this band? Someone help me.

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You made the right choice. :-)

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There's also the 4 cd Complete Potatoland set to consider now, too.

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Unkle I have that same problem sometimes, 😂! But if you can afford it and will listen to it at least 10 times out of the year I’d get it !
Anyone else excited for the new tool album being released at the end of the month? I’m beyond excited for this release! Some fresh Artwork and 7 long songs, about 90 minutes I read somewhere!!!! Hot damn I’m stoked for this one:)!
Spinning darkstar from 6/24/73 this morning, amazing sums it up;)
I’m a huge 70s dead fan, 73-77 is my favorite era but the release of this box set has me listening to that era as of late, 89-91 mainly, really digging on some 91 ! Different beast but I still enjoy it immensely. Plus the technology and recording techniques, I mean for me , someone that loves the dead it’s fun to get some variety and some unexpected twists and turns, I love the 70s and that’s my peak dead but it’s fun to go for the ride through all the eras and see all the transitions, sonically and physically.
That doesn’t mean I support the release of poor performance and shitty quality albums , and I honestly don’t see Dave doing that just giving us a
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LMFAO...you need a sponsor...sorry, no help here.....still in denial phase. I don’t have a problem, I can quit anytime...

Captcha got me this time...vehicles...is a bicycle a vehicle?...then they change it to bicycles...very tricky!

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Ha.. you seem to have a problem.

Perhaps you could switch to reading books as a way to cure your addiction.

Might I suggest Dr. Seuss? My favorite is One Box, Two Box, Red and Blue Box.

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I am (Unkle)Sam, USam I am. I do not want this 91 Box, I will not buy it even if it rocks.

Would you, could you, from the Fox?

I would not buy a Box from Fox, I would not, could not buy that box.

Would you, could you, from Red Rocks?

I would not buy that Red Rocks Box, I would not, could not from the Rocks.
Not from the Fox, not from Red Rocks, I do not want this box that rocks.

Needs a little work, but it's early yet.

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"Do you like my hat?"

"I do not like your hat."

"Goodbye!"

"Goodbye!"

(One of my favorite Dr. Seuss exchanges from 'Go Dogs Go'....). This is what 3 kids 5 and under gets 'ya.

As for This box:

It surely rocks! I would buy it from a fox! I would buy Red Rocks! I would buy it even wearing socks!
This box Rocks!

Sixtus

But VGuy, WHAT songs did they play at that training practice? I mean, if they seemed sleepy, they clearly weren't in the correct headspeace and/or not enough mustard on those tunes. I would hope that a crazy live string of improv from say, '68, or some jazzy '73 was played but that seems not to be the case here. Maybe that dude on the Eagles needs a helping hand on his "picks"....steer him here.

Sixtus

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So Sixtus, curious and have been meaning to ask, how you handled the situation with the Dead End sign...recent move and all? Is it hanging in your new garage?

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