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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • Dennis
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    Naps and Cuz and Cats and Fiddle

    Found Cats and Fiddle on archive and have started downloading. And just because I'm and idiot, found a 300 song collection of old Russians songs on 78's. Downloaded and no I don't speak Russian!

    Funny thing about the name Cats and Fiddle. I grew up in a beach community in Jersey. When I was young there was a bar on the beach called "the cat and the Fiddle". Link below will take you to a page about said bar.

    http://aberdeennjlife.blogspot.com/2014/06/history-cat-n-fiddle-cliffwo…

  • alvarhanso
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    Classical irony

    Ironically a term used to deride the Dead's music, "noodling", was coined to describe Mozart himself, who may have been the most brilliant musician of the 18th Century. But his habit of playing solos in different modes was as annoying to some musical purists of his day as they were to those who didn't appreciate Jerry's ability to do the same thing 200 years later.

    I'll set aside some money and pick this up just before release date. With PacNW and July '78 still available, I don't see this selling out by the end of September.

    Eta: let's not forget Phil and TC's connection to classical and modern classical, or post-modern classical. Jerry once likened Phil's bass playing to acting as if it were a cello weaving counterpoint, rhythms, and lead melodies through the same song.

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    my quick thoughts of classical

    I think (not know), classical tunes are different based on the interpretation of the conductor. That's what they bring. The musicians are the tools of his trade. If the conductor wants some piece to be louder and more forward, he hires more violinist. His ONLY volume control is more of the same instruments, that's where you get 50 guys in tuxs standing up at the same time to hit the same note. But his 'wall of sound' is the horseshoe shape of the pit. When the 'lead' of the song moves thru the pit you can actually hear the motion. The sound is more than just the notes, it's the movement of the sound in front of you.

    The dead seem to be able to control their sound stage to a 3D image that moved. They got big.

    What do I know? But one of the very few that had the equipment to make that happen.

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    I've counted five people so far....

    ....that are 51, including myself. Let's hear it for the class of '86!!!

  • Dennis
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    LMG - 4/16/83

    Happy B-Day. Our crew was at 4/16. Didn't see you? 4/16 Stephen Stills showed up. But for me 4/16 is the GREATEST Looks Like Rain. Jerry tears the shit out of the end,,,, like raindrops falling on you and Bobby gives some of his best screams.

    "can't take no more fuckin rain today"

    Here for your birthday, my soundboard copy of Looks Like Rain

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/5g0w1db4xkvfyx8/09%20-%20Looks%20Like%20Rain…

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    Happy Birthday LMG

    Enjoyed the recollection of your first show!

  • Strider 808808
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    Keyboard smorgasbord

    Giant Stadium movie was fun. Vinnie had some bright moments. Bruce was really listening and paying attention. 1991 had some high moments. Talk about tickling those ivories. I really enjoyed August 91 at Shoreline. Grateful Dead (all things/keyboards) why just eat a sandwich when you’re at a smorgasbord .

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    The idea that a classical piece is fixed and sounds the same whoever plays it is simply wrong. Some versions of ‘The Rite of Spring’ by Stravinsky are electrifying and ecstatic, others are pedestrian. I have at least 5 versions of ‘Music for 18 Musicians’ by Steve Reich, they are all different. This is equally true for pre-20th century classical as well.

    I am looking forward to the release of another box set in September as well as the GD one. The Another Timbre label is releasing a five CD set of Morton Feldman piano pieces, that should be stunning.

    My own musical interests range through folk, country, pop, jazz, free improvisation ( check out the Emanem label), Classical and even the Grateful Dead.

    All musical appreciation is subjective. I might recommend some music but I’d never argue that someone is wrong if they don’t like it. There is very little music that doesn’t have some appeal to me but, as The Incredible String Band said, “Music is so much less than what you are”

    Look forward to the future, what else is there?

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    My older sister went off to College in 85 and left behind two tapes in our mother's car. Shakedown Street and a bootleg from 12/30/83. I had no idea what they were but I gave them a try and was hooked immediately. I still have that 83 cassette and played it until 2011. First show was the old Metrodome in June of 86. Dylan, the Dead and Petty. Went to Alpine two days later and that was a crazy experience. 48 now and miss those days when I went to all the shows the boys played in MN and WI from 86-89. Wish I went to more across the country.
    Went to the MUATM on Thursday. I have not been a huge post Brent era fan, but thought this show was awesome! Really surprised me how good it was. The Eyes opener just cooks and Jerry is on all night. If you like this band, you will like this show. I am really looking forward to this box!

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    Is that right, that classical music is always played the same way by different musicians? I can remember buying my uncle, who was a classical music enthusiast,an album-maybe the composer was Mozart-decades ago. I was chastened to realise that he already had the music, but bemused to hear that he hadn't got the version I had bought him. I had assumed that if you bought a symphony on record, one was as good as another. Not so-at least according to my uncle. I have never got into classical music myself, I have to say.

    Nice story from LMG about his first Dead show. Also a nod to Terrapin Station the album, and earlier nods on here to the official Dead live albums that came out. I haven't heard most of the Dead's studio/live albums, including Terrapin, for years. The ones I have played most over the last 10 years or so have been Anthem, Live Dead and Blues For Allah.

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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....THAT'S the sound that perked my ears back in the day. The old news is now the new news.

Interesting article on the above. There have also been articles in British newspapers on ketamine, suggesting that it could be more effective in helping people with depression than the old tried, tired and tested medications.
Certainly, my mental health improved exponentially after my period of taking mushrooms regularly between 1987 and 1993. I didn't take them because I felt I was suffering from depression, but looking back to my behaviour before, during and after, it seems likely I was. Between 1987 and 1993 I met my two main partners and returned to university to get a professional qualification. The second relationship last 10 years and the career 20. Not a lifetime-but long enough!

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5 16 72 Big River soundcheck....Garcia singing lead. Everything sounds better with Jerry on it....why Garcia passed the baton on vocals? He was (is) a humble soul.

Also love Stella Blues from 1972.

Check out 8 21 72 BCT and 11 19 72 Texas.....

Then, to blow out the pipes: DARK STAR 2.13.70 and 4.28.71

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY Love My Girl! Was kinda out of pocket yesterday and missed wishing you a very Happy Birthday, but trust you'll be continuing the festivities throughout the weekend.

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Couldn't find the soundboard, but listening to The DEAD's "Days Between" from 9/19/03 via the "OK" AUD on the Archive. Always been a favorite from the latter-day song book, but even more so now. Glad Gollum sparked your recommendation. Now if I could just find that soundboard. . .

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Likewise, could not find the 9/19/03 soundboard. If anyone finds it, please let us know !

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The email announcing this set has a button to pre-order the high-def flacs. I don't see it on dead.net. I don't buy physical products anymore (except Dave's because there's no downloads). I'm wondering why no high def link on the site. Anyone out there know?

Love the high def flacs. The Northwest "box" sounds AMAZING when played on the big fat stereo.

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Dyslexia strikes again. If I actually read the product description, it says flacs will be available on release day. I tend not to read everything because it takes forever. That and the fact that I cooked my coconut when I was young.

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Suppose you could add Chicago, Baltimore, etc. to the list.

"One way or another, this darkness got to give."

That's my choice for today's listening; Bill Graham's intro is so appropriate today.

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So yesterday I drove down to Phoenix (about a three hour drive) for a concert at the Musical Instrument Museum...I arrived in town about 1:30 PM which gave me plenty of time to shop at a few music and book stores...lo and behold I found a used Fillmore West box set for $99!!! Granted the box itself was slightly beat up but everything else is fine...so so so happy...found a ton of other good stuff, pretty much blew my allowance for the next three weeks but das cool...now the Mrs won't be home until tomorrow night from visiting relatives in So Cal so time to blast the tunes...I went to Phoenix to see Peter Asher and Albert Lee... a killer two and a half hour show of great stories and music...when I left the gig a massive thunderstorm was drenching Phoenix and slowed me on my way home...got home about 2:45 AM and was at work by 7:30 AM...yuck...done for the day now, time to scare the neighbors!!! After a nap of course...

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Brilliant guitarist-possibly the best country player ever to come out of these fair isles. I saw both him and Peter Asher, together with James Burton about three years ago supporting Jerry Lee Lewis. I was hoping Albert Lee and James Burton would come out and play with the Killer on a few numbers-but it wasn't to be.

I don't see much in common with the Dead and European Art Music or whatever we're supposed to call Classical music these days either. Phil might argue though, and Seastones does have connections to some Varese and Stockhausen. The only rock artist I can name who is truly fluent in classical music compositional techniques is Zappa. "Make A Jazz Noise Here" being a perfect example.

Nappyrags was my innocent attempt to come up with a user name for a Dylan site i used to frequent ages ago until they shut down...I was going for Napoleon In Rags but was told it was already in use so....I thought it was hilarious when someone from the UK asked me if I knew it was slang for baby diapers (Is this true?) so now you know the rest of the story...

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He is one of my favourite guitarists, and it was great to see and hear him support Jerry Lee. In fact, I was so impressed I bought a signature James Burton telecaster a few days later. Its a pearl white one-not one of the flamejobs, but it sounds great and plays like a dream. Although I think James Burton must have more fingers than me.

And yes...a nappy is a kind of underpants for babies in the UK.

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I saw him touring in The Hot Band in either ‘75 or ‘76 as part of Emmylou Harris’s backing band. Great guitarist. Great show.

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Guess it fits as most of my friends will tell ya I'm fulla crap most of the time...

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I saw Albert Lee with Emmylou's Hot Band at the Olympia in Paris, right after Burton left in 1977; caught James Burton with Jerry Lee at the Circle Star in San Carlos in 1984 or 85, excellent show; JLL also had Bob Moore on bass and Buddy Harman on drums, both of them Nashville studio A veterans.... I think Hank Ballard opened the show; incidentally, He wrote and recorded the original Tore Up Over You.
Another of my favorite Country guitar slingers is Roy Nichols; he played with the Maddox Bros. and Rose, and was with Merle Haggard's Strangers for the rest of his life. Yes...and Don Rich was awesome too!

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Ordered one Giants Stadium boxset. They have charged me for two. I have tried to contact Dead.net and Warner's. Deadnet says you have to deal with Warners. No response.

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Heads up UK heads , you can pre order the one off show 3cd set on amazon for £22 quid . ( cheaper than dead.net and no potential postal issues ) Probably best avoid dead.net for the time being . Unless of course you absolutely have to have the box set . 😺

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So, I unfortunately have only had a chance to read all these posts within the last 14 hours. There are so many things to say, but I feel brevity is best here. I will never allow someone else's "opinion" to upset me. People who need to validate themselves by insinuating that their likes are more "valid" than others' are simply suffering from an ego imbalance that is likely from long ago. I guess the young folks call them "trolls" now. I was told about 20 years ago, "Other peoples opinions of me are none of my business". That has served me well.
As far as the box, I will be happy to buy the single show option, grateful to save a little money.
Regarding Dave's 31, on second listen, I like it better than first. I also really like the 3 "bonus" tracks. I'm surprised no one has talked about the Cosmic Charlie tease at the end of Truckin'. One of my favorite moments of the show.

P.S. I realize that brevity played no part of this post!! 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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Doe not seem like a lot of excitement for the box. The number will be 10,000. It reminds me of Spring 90 too. I bought it but was unhappy with the release. It turned out to be a real sleeper the best sound of the boxes so far. The UJB on rolling stone .com sounds better. I think people will be happy with this one. The box last year was a bit of a disappointment. My two favorite years but not the greatest shows. Did Dave leave the door open for maybe another release this year. Did he now say there are things still to come this year. Release 8-1-73 and 2-9-73 . They both outclass Rfk and watkins glenn in my opinion

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Hey, I've noticed that I often have multiple items in my cart. If I add something, close out without purchasing and then later go back to purchase it, the original and newly added items are both there. I've always noticed before I've finalized my purchase, but thinking this may have happened to you.

Good luck!

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Thanks for the tip. That's what I will be doing.

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I really like as a deadhead when you stumble on something you have never seen or heard before!!! (Like the 78 July Soundboards)... You even get to see Keith singing!!!! ANyone have any color on this... was anyone there?? So clear to see also... Keith is amazing on the piano... I am a Donna fan and her voice is amazing especially on Stir it UP... Heard about the show before but never saw or heard it... Thanks Bob t

Where are they performing, the Bat Cave?

My basement seems bigger..

I have to wonder.. because I know what JGB used to cost and how small this place looks. How could they afford to carry band around the country playing in places this small?

On my first listen, just getting to the second song, After Midnight. I wonder who the apparently buzzed biker looking dude is that took over the mike asking for country songs or something?? The look on Keith's face is priceless.

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I should read posts completely before posting.
I got all excited 'cause I thought he was talking about Jerry and Merl from 9-5-73 on the S.S. Bay Belle. Also in N.Y. City Harbor for a Hells Angels party. Billy the Drummer on the kit. Also, supposedly the first appearance of The Wolf.
I guess the Angels liked to party on boats...?

I don't fart...I'm a robot. A Harley robot. A knucklehead. I "exhaust".
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now that things have settled down a bit here, I will comment on this box. I will not order it. I have enough Dead. I won't go to the site. I will not order it. I can't not order it. I have not heard 3 of these 5 shows. I will not order it. I went to the site. I will not order it. I can't not order it, I must have all dead releases. Why am I so addicted to this band? I can not not order it, I must order. I will wait for the reviews and then order, I can not not order, I am a sucker for the dead. Why can't I only order the video? I won't order this box. I ordered the box, why can't I just say no? It's like a drug, I am addicted. I need help. Can I cancel my order? No, don't cancel my order. Will it be a good box with non skipping cd's? Will I be happy? Will the sun shine on my backdoor someday? It's all too much, I must get away from here. I must order. I will wait. Damn it, why is this such a hard decision? It's just a box, why am I so addicted to this band? Someone help me.

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You made the right choice. :-)

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There's also the 4 cd Complete Potatoland set to consider now, too.

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Unkle I have that same problem sometimes, 😂! But if you can afford it and will listen to it at least 10 times out of the year I’d get it !
Anyone else excited for the new tool album being released at the end of the month? I’m beyond excited for this release! Some fresh Artwork and 7 long songs, about 90 minutes I read somewhere!!!! Hot damn I’m stoked for this one:)!
Spinning darkstar from 6/24/73 this morning, amazing sums it up;)
I’m a huge 70s dead fan, 73-77 is my favorite era but the release of this box set has me listening to that era as of late, 89-91 mainly, really digging on some 91 ! Different beast but I still enjoy it immensely. Plus the technology and recording techniques, I mean for me , someone that loves the dead it’s fun to get some variety and some unexpected twists and turns, I love the 70s and that’s my peak dead but it’s fun to go for the ride through all the eras and see all the transitions, sonically and physically.
That doesn’t mean I support the release of poor performance and shitty quality albums , and I honestly don’t see Dave doing that just giving us a
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LMFAO...you need a sponsor...sorry, no help here.....still in denial phase. I don’t have a problem, I can quit anytime...

Captcha got me this time...vehicles...is a bicycle a vehicle?...then they change it to bicycles...very tricky!

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Ha.. you seem to have a problem.

Perhaps you could switch to reading books as a way to cure your addiction.

Might I suggest Dr. Seuss? My favorite is One Box, Two Box, Red and Blue Box.

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I am (Unkle)Sam, USam I am. I do not want this 91 Box, I will not buy it even if it rocks.

Would you, could you, from the Fox?

I would not buy a Box from Fox, I would not, could not buy that box.

Would you, could you, from Red Rocks?

I would not buy that Red Rocks Box, I would not, could not from the Rocks.
Not from the Fox, not from Red Rocks, I do not want this box that rocks.

Needs a little work, but it's early yet.

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"Do you like my hat?"

"I do not like your hat."

"Goodbye!"

"Goodbye!"

(One of my favorite Dr. Seuss exchanges from 'Go Dogs Go'....). This is what 3 kids 5 and under gets 'ya.

As for This box:

It surely rocks! I would buy it from a fox! I would buy Red Rocks! I would buy it even wearing socks!
This box Rocks!

Sixtus

But VGuy, WHAT songs did they play at that training practice? I mean, if they seemed sleepy, they clearly weren't in the correct headspeace and/or not enough mustard on those tunes. I would hope that a crazy live string of improv from say, '68, or some jazzy '73 was played but that seems not to be the case here. Maybe that dude on the Eagles needs a helping hand on his "picks"....steer him here.

Sixtus

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So Sixtus, curious and have been meaning to ask, how you handled the situation with the Dead End sign...recent move and all? Is it hanging in your new garage?

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