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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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    your pm's have what you want

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    R.I.P. Mr. Baker

    Until I saw the Beware Mr. Baker movie I didn't know a lot about Ginger Baker, only that he was a very highly regarded drummer. I don't even know Cream, except for Sunshine and White Room. I can't believe they did not get more air play on FM radio. Blind Faith is all I own with him.

    What impressed me the most about Mr Baker was his confidence in his song arranging capability. He made it sound like he contributed a great deal to the music production, not just drumming.

    Love how he scoffed at the mention of Bonham and Moon being great drummers. I would love to have heard his opinion on Peart.

    Can't believe he blew all of that reunion tour money. Horses? It's been awhile since I saw the movie. Was he doing a lot of drugs? That'll burn through a million bucks pretty quick.

    Well I keep telling myself I need to get into that Allman Brothers Fillmore East box set from 1971 as soon as I get bored of the Dead. That hasn't happened yet and I've had the box set for well over a year. But I really should by the cCeam records in order.

    Stoltzie. I started to listen to that 84 show you mentioned last night. It was late and I fell asleep after the first two songs but I really enjoyed the funky keyboard sound. I've never heard that before. You know what I mean.

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    Hmm. I listened to dew and Mabey it was a mic. swap at 2nd set break. Jerrys guitar vol. seems ok to me for a quieter song but like jim said ,you would not hear that loud clapping in the mic. so clearly at that distance. Mabey they had an aud. Mic. just for Dew but I doubt it. Kind of nit picking but still strange. The clapping seems quite loud on dew only. When Jerrys noodling on space the aud. Is quite distant. But it still a stellar show!

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    I did.. spent the last half hour listening to that with headphones.

    Mustin 1, JimInMD 0. There is something in that mix.. For my first listen, I just did the first set, then started with the second set the next day. But tonight I started with Bertha (why not) and then into the second set.

    I certainly screwed the pooch on that one. I wonder what was up? It was the clapping towards the end that just would not come through on stage.

    Sorry.. I was flat out head face planted deep in the snow wrong on that one.

    Good catch.

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    Listen to that Dew again. It's clearly a different source vs the first set and the rest of the second set. It's not just a few seconds, but the whole song. This has nothing to do with the crowd reaction.

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    Well put Senator. Cracked me up.

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    Morning Dew....

    ....the boyz could place that particular song anywhere, even in a Day Job->Dew->Childhoods End, and I would be appreciative.

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    I don't think there is any matrix action on the '87 Morning Dew, but I could be wrong.

    ...but if it were a matrix, it would be part soundboard, part aud.. so why mix in audience? They often do this right before and after aud patches to lessen the impact before we go full-bore into aud territory, but this does not seem to be the case here.

    I think it's more likely that the crowd, being in New York, went ape shit simply because they opened the second set with Morning Dew, which was a rarity as a set opener by '87. So if the crowd goes absolutely ape shit, the crowd noise will come through the vocal mics.. and if it's really loud and well recorded.. for a few brief seconds it sounds like an audience recording.

    That's my take.

    As for where Jerry's guitar sounds in the mix, perhaps it was just the performance. On occasion they opened shows with MDew, and opened the second set with MDew, but I always thought the song was more powerful when used late in the second set, as a ballad crescendo-meltdown song rather than as a cold opener. I guess what I am trying to say is I noticed the same thing but had different thoughts as to the reasoning. As a set opener, they seemed to have a more difficult time finding their groove with this tune compared to when it came later in the set after they were warmed up, and often on fire..

    As always, I reserve the right to be absolutely, cold-opener wrong. It's pretty subjective territory, but that's my take. Perhaps I should listen to it again to be sure.

    Chalk it up to 70k New Yorkers, perhaps more than few just beginning to peak, flipping out and losing their shit simply because the second set opened with Morning Dew and Jerry and the boys being less nimble then when this song appears later in the set.

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    Yep! I noticed the same thing on Dew and commented on it in the Giants boxset thread on the phish.net forum. 87 first set sounds fantastic and then that Dew to start the 2nd set is noticeably different and sounds like either an audience or matrix. Things go back to the board as Playin starts and gets better as that song goes along. Who knows. Maybe there were issues on the master reels for Dew and they had to use a different source.

    Only other minor mixing complaint for me is vocals are mixed a little low on 6-16-91 (havent listened to 6-17 yet), but that's a very minor quibble.

    Otherwise thought the shows sounded awesome with a really great mix!

    Thought the shows themselves were excellent overall! Not a clunker in the set and the energy is awesome in all of them! 6-16 is a fantastic show start to finish which I was not expecting. Oh, and how about that Black Peter with the extended jam at the end? Phenomenal Black Peter!

    Awesome boxset though and surpassed my expectations a bit. :D

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    dont look at them ahead of time. Many pleasant surprises.

    If 5 8 84 was your "first time", vguy, then you got a goooooood one

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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My vinyl is 'out for delivery' :-)

Now about that turntable....

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fun video, technologically challenge. I was reading the Youtube comments, they were pretty funny. Bodies tossed overboard, Donna facing the amps for most of the performance. Would've been fun to see the camera pan the whole audience to get an idea of the space they were playing. Sounds like a pretty decrepit boat...

I wish they'd do a box package where you buy the physical box and vinyl you'd get a free Hi Res download of that last show. Now why would they do that when you can buy all individually ;)

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Hey CaseyJanes.....astute observation.

Well, for anyone else paying attention, we indeed had only TWO open houses about 3 weeks ago, and our home was IMMEDIATELY snatched up by the ensuing Monday (we had 3 offers all over ask and went with the one with NO contingencies and NO inspection - cha ching!). So the move is "on" for the middle of Labor Day week out to Sudbury.

The interesting thing here is, in fact, our destination property is ALSO on a Dead End, as in, like, the very last house on the street. BUT, sadly, there is NO DEAD END SIGN!!! So this has had me contemplating a few things:

- WHY no Dead End sign there, hmmmmmm? Seems a bit odd, but then again, the home is literally at the top of a Hill that may otherwise be perceived as a private drive, but there are 3 other houses on the same street

- Can I put a Dead End sign up at the end, just outside of the property? Or would that need to be an actual DPW 'sanctioned' road sign?

- I could very well put up a Dead End sign on the home's property I believe, in which case I would try to find an actual, real, like, Dead-esque 'Dead End' sign....if such items exist (Google will be my friend here).

If anyone has any insight to these extremely important and pertinent questions, do share.

Of course, once we move in, a HUGE Dead Party will be thrown, and all you cats will be invited.

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I'm in. Gotta have it, how many pounds makes up a dollar? Or how many dollars make up a pound? Why is everything so hard nowadays? I need more help. Daverock, thanks for the heads up on the Randy music. Take my hand, going to Potatoland....

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Lay down all thoughts, surrender to the box
It is shining, it is shining

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“Dead Head Ahead”

Sign shaped and colored like a SYF, with wording across the lightning bolt.

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I will likely only buy single show on giant box. Like most, I generally listen in the 69 to 77 years but I also like 89-91 very much. I think then band played really well in this later stage and had a very powerful, full sound (probably from the new technology in addition to midi) and just really rocked. I also feel that bill and Mickey had a more prominent role in these yrs too. In any event . at the end of like Hell in a Bucket Jerry and band are on fire ... I love it. So even though I’m a 70’s fan, about 5- 10% of my dead listening is in the 88-91 era and I love it. I would guess there weren’t many rock and roll bands that sounded as good as dead live in 89-91. The announcement of this box had me settled in 89-91 recently. I will likely only buy the one show as I am not a completist and have about 75% of everything dead net has put out and it’s a ton of music and I just don’t listen to that much music as my main music listening time is on drive to work and I share that time with sport talk, politics, phone calls etc. Plus I go through runs where I listen to all Dead and then need to take a break with other bands. Anyways enjoy to those who go for full box. I was at the 87 show.

Sixtus, I take you are moving to Sudbury... beautiful town ... I drive right thru everyday.

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Jeopardy answer

What is Tomorrow Never Knows, Revolver, 1966. A Ringoism no less.

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Nice catch Keithfan2112, nice catch.

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who are the grateful dead and why do they keep following me . been going to shows and collecting live dead since 1978 its been a great ride but as you get older and wiser I think you have to pick and choose more carefully ,this box looks great but how much time do I have to put this in the rotation with all the other great music from the dead ,this has been tough to say pass, and will save my money for Daves picks 2020, wish like others you could just buy the dvd , enjoy the box,

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As I mentioned earlier I picked up a used Fillmore West Box Set for $99...I almost jumped on it once at Amoeba in Hollywood where it was $325...looking today on Ebay I saw prices ranging from $375 (used) to $1,450 ("new" Still sealed in it's shrink wrap along with the bonus disc)...I also found the bonus disc starting at $129...whoa...guess I'll be taking the long way to work this week...Also last week I finished ripping my CDR's I had burned from the Download series, lost all the files in an HD crash...so lot's of stuff to be playing over the next couple of months...maybe I'll be needy by the time the next Dave's is released...

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I hear you about just how much you can buy and in reality listen too. For the past decades I've spent 10s of thousands of dollars on cds. To the point I have 3500 titles plus a 1000 lps. Yeek! Anyway a couple of years ago I realized I had virtually everything replaced on media that will work on my thankfully very good ears. Add to that many boxes and live shows ( the Airplane have about 20 high quality live shows out). So I'm in the happy position of being able to keep my fanaticism going with the 2 bands I want everything available. GD ( which includes Jerry ) and Frank Zappa. At less than $500 a year that settles my as FZ said fetishist inclinations. And even leaves room for a couple of new bands ( very carefully checked out) and maybe a Neil new issue. It's worked pretty well for me. And I even got rid of cable. Enjoy your choices and here's to a late '60's box next. Maybe it's like Animal Farm...they're all good but some are gooder than other. Sorry George lol

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Will that party include a keg of suds?

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If money grew on trees, heck yeah I'd buy it. But I'm going to have to pass, as I know I won't get too much listening time out of it. As much Grateful Dead as I listen to, I still don't have the 60s and 70s entirely melded to my music brain. I need to absorb a band in its entirety, but the Grateful Dead is just too vast.

When is Rush going to start releasing the old live stuff they must have stored in their vault. Let's get some live Hemispheres, Cygnus X1 Book II. How about a show from the Moving Pictures tour? Exit... Stage Left is really only three sides of music from that tour. A few years ago I bought the deluxe version of 2112, which has a live version of the Overture and Temples of Syrinx from the Moving Pictures tour (that's what they opened with - can you imagine). It sounds so good. The old Beta release of Exit...Stage Left also has the ending medley of the show, which is also not on the album. Also fantastic. It's time to get this stuff released now that they're retired. Oh and if he's still alive, let's get Terry Brown back in the mix please.

Ha.. you nailed it. I just knew Fred Astaire was a deadhead, now we have irrefutable proof!

That is hilarious.

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...hells yeah keg 'O suds! And Lots 'O buds!!

conekid - I like your suggestion. In fact, I did a google hunt yesterday, and surprisingly, I found NOTHING within the realm of my thoughts or yours, for that matter. Weird and surprising.

So this means I am putting out a call: Who out there is in the biznisss of making GD-related road signs?!?!? Specifically, Dead End signs, or perhaps as conekid suggested 'Dead Head Ahead' signs?!?

It seems this is a ripe opportunity for an active application of one's creativity if you happen to specialize in road signs...ha ha.
No. I'm serious. This needs to be done.

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Dennis
That is frickin insanely funny. How the hell did u think of that. Second thought probably better not to reveal anything
Drp out

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Just in time for a box that rocks...I'm in....
Wait.....what kinda box are we talking about again?
Do I have to wear Red Sox?
I'm a Royals fan

Edit: Fred's the original spinner

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I would think any sign company can make a vinyl wrap or those corrugated vinyl signs. If somehow you came into possession of a metal sign (how this could be accomplished it will not say), a nice vinyl wrap job would be easy. As long as the sign shop was run by a pig. You know them pigs squeal!

The Fred/Jerry front.... I heard that song and that was my first thought. I wish I could tap dance because that could be a great modern tap song. I only wish I had the soft ware to make the two sync up better. Also it appears Jerry can jam longer than Fred can dance :-) I also think Fred could do a bang up job on the lyrics.

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Don't remember which board, and I believe Nappy Cousin talked of them. Last night on TCM showing movies of Lena Horne, this one from 38, the duke is tops. Had a sundry of people, then they listed "specialty acts",,, and one of the listed was the cats and fiddle. Had to leave and didn't see the movie, but still chuckled over the recent comments.

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I bet you $20 that as soon as that sign is placed on the road you live on, some neighbor or neighbors will complain about it. Even though you live on a dead end. There is always a douche in every neighborhood. Peace.

Was also 86 Dead, Dylan, Petty.

From OH, but did multiple Alpine's & Milwaukee's & Chicago's.

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I was tardy in checking my e-mail this week. Fortunately the Blu-Ray 91box was not sold out. One deduction of $178.00 from my bank (which I can't afford of course) and I am at peace.

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i must say that if there was a lot of bread in the bread box right now I would probably be in on this box ,butt if this was a greek box or pretty much anything pre-1977 or for that matter pre-1979 I would be in all the way, I may be frugal on this one but not crazy , heck ok pre-1985 , guess we all have to pick and choose , and don't forget about the money it cost to go to the shows ,dead@co ,hangtown ,high sierra, etc. enjoying the ride is not as cheap as it used to be ,or maybe im just getting older, cheers. p.s. I like what one person said about a 4/21-22-23/69 the ark box ? I'm in

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Thanks to the couple of folks who've chimed in with suggestions or commentary on the Dead End sign situation....
I still like the idea suggested from another Head to accidentally hit the Dead End sign outside our house now with the moving truck and then just 'oops', take it with us, thus saving anyone the trouble of clean up. That would be totally an accident and not pre-planned...at all. :D

Also gotta remember to get the quarterboard off our back yard pergola gate which reads "The Lazy Gate" and take with.
Very important.

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Since these shows are from the state I grew up in AND was at the '87 and first night '89 show I guess I'm getting this box. Looking forward to some awesome sound quality with memories.

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.... woke up blind the other day, I was then rushed to the hospital ang given many tests, the doctors have found a lesion In my brain the size of a golf ball, about 4cm. It’s in the right side almost in the middle. I go for spinal tap this Thursday and more tests as well.
I feel like I’m in a twilight zone film story. Everything I see is the opposite, like looking into a mirror, my anxiety is rightist the roof! I can’t watch tv or read, only think o have left is my Dead music to guide me thru my day! I’m still in shark , I’m scared really really scared

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Wow, bad news. Stay strong and I hope recovery comes quickly.

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Sending light....for a full recovery.

LMG be strong - that is tough news and I am sure, hard to take.
Know that you have many concerned thoughts coming your way from this corner of the universe.

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Get some valium if you can.

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I think these last 2 box set themes of the PNW '73-'74 and the latest based on Giants Stadium for 3 different tours is a little weird way to construct a box set. I much prefer a stretch of one tour than a hodge podge of multiple tours (save 30 Trips). I love the PNW shows too, it just seems like their stretching for a way to link some shows together they want to release. Give us a box where it's a whole stand at one theater over a week or so like The Capitol, the Fillmores, Academy Of Music, etc. I wonder if the 1978 box not selling out soured them on the idea?

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I respectfully don’t agree. I like the idea of including different years from same venue in a box as less likely to get a lot of duplicate songs. I feel at times some boxes from same tour have a lot of repeat tunes as they were what dead had in rotation for that tour. It is what is. A little repeat is ok but a lot is not my preference. I think the bigger issue is did they pick the right venue that had solid shows over a number of years. I suppose to your point there always the risk that if they commit to a venue like Giants stadium and pick 5 shows it may be that only three or four are worthy of release but they planned on a 5 show box so they need add another show or two to get to 5 and those last shows aren’t worth releasing

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Hang in their LMG ... my thoughts and prayers are with you

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Hey all....just a heads up that Comeback Vinyl is having their anniversary sale through Monday which is 20% off entire order including pre-orders. They have some nice stuff coming out in September including the Giants Stadium 6/17/91 show. Also two Widespread shows, Bears Sonic Journal
Allman Bros, and many more!

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But man, it's had me in its hooks fiercely the past 6 months or so. This one from 3/16/73 has some pretty decent sound for a board rec, I'm 8 minutes in, and it's fantastic. If I could go back in time, I would convince them 1) that I was a time traveller, and 2) to play it at least every other night in '74. Six times in 40 shows only. Seven if you count the Jam after WRS on DP 12, which the CD does not, but many set lists do (or it's referred to as "Dark Star Elements"). 1971 could have used a lot more too. A dozen Dark Stars in 82 shows. Yikes.

That 3/16/73 one went cacophony about 20 minutes in, but that's to be expected. So these soundboards I just fine random Grateful Dead artwork on the internet and use them for my digital album covers. The March 16th show has a Bertha skeleton riding on a terrapin. So that album is album "Terrapin and Bones"

"Haze Over Utica" from 3/21/73. Not quite as enticing at fik , but that's okay, it rolls right in two Philly 73, March 24th ( I have a folder for each year with just the dark stars in it). The Philly one is actually a two-parter, where the first part is just called Jam, but it sounds much more Dark Star than the one on Dick's Picks 12. Anyway, part 2 just started and I am blissed.

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....oh man LMG. Walking on eggshells here, but I will say one thing. Actually, I didn't say it....
"So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand." ~ Isaiah 41:10
If this offends anyone, pass it on or pm me.
Keep strong my brother. Friends abound, and are concerned and love you.

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Sad to hear this.. My brother has a tumor in his brain pressing against his vestibulocochlear nerve.. scary indeed.

Wishing for the best.

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Stay strong my friend. You're my daily dose of Vitamin Happy.

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Burning as we speak my man. I'll get 'em out to ya tomorrow.
Big, big love. Hang tough, mama...
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I’m very grateful to all you brothers and sisters prayers and best wishes! Thank you all from the bottom of my soul & heart!
You all have a special place in my heart, everyone on this board, I consider my family!
We are all so fragil and sacredvessals ... I wish you all love. Peace be with you all, god bless! 🙏❤️💀

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Just listened to UJB from the Rolling Stone listening party sample. There's something to be said for these 48 track masters. No idea what they're recording on half of them, but they sound great. I love the atmosphere that Hornsby's synth brought, Jerry is where he needs to be in the mix, and Bobby sounds great here (better than his tone in '78 IMHO). And they just plain sound good. Can't wait to hear the Dark Star interludes.

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When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro!

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