Grateful Dead

No one here said poorly run countries are socialist, but that socialist countries by design are poorly run.
Peace through surrender is the peace of the grave

... if that's OK with the rest of you.

....I think this started because I brought up Jane Fonda.
And yeah. I still think she sucks. And no book she wrote will change my mind. Sorry people.
And yes, the Dead's Woodstock Lovelight needs to be locked away into deepest the Indiana Jones type tomb and sealed forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP2KDUiBI-E

:O)

Having just watched Jimi Hendrix at Woodstock on dvd I have to wonder if this was a man or a God.

I am not going to comment on Jane Fonda sucking.

Gave the 1970 show from the 30 Trips box another listen today. Someone on here recently mentioned the Soul Sacrifice-ish jam on that one and since I couldn't really recall it, I figured it was time for another listen. Good show, those '70 Mans World performances in particular really hit the spot for me, and there is some cool jamming on Dancing In the Streets, including a little fast tempo Soulful Strut riff. Also listened to the album Mystery To Me by Fleetwood Mac from '73, the song Hypnotized, a '70s radio staple, always clicked for me, although it was only in the last few years that I discovered that it was a Fleetwood Mac tune.

Socialist?! We could have a whole conversation on that, but just remember "socialist" programs arent just for liberals, ask the farmers, ranchers, and auto industry who get federal funds to keep businesses afloat in financial hardships,
there's some socialism for ya, and I thought this was a conversation about the use of the word communism? Socialism didnt even showed up in my comments....so I'm not even really sure what you're talking about, nor how to respond, but I've got a free moment. Sure if you want to believe that the only way to achieve peace is through violence and submission rather than a more nuanced and pragmatic approach, go for it, just dont be one of those that also shows up at the picnic calling themselves a "child of god." His kid thought he was a little heavy handed in the old days and had some pretty strong opinions of violence and brutality. I guess I'd rather go forward than backwards in human history. It's just frustrating that a large portion of the baby boomers cant be here on this planet without telling everyone how awesome they are and how great it "used" to be and it will "never" be "that good" again, well to this aged person it just seems like some of them are trying to piss on the rest of birthday cake because they have to leave the party before everyone else. So many appear to focused on their "legacy" as opposed to the legacy they leave for their grandkids children of wasted time and trashed planet. I guess I just thought a generation that talks such a big game would've made some better choices in their time and would show even marginal concern for what happens to others on this planet when they leave, it all just seems rather childish but mostly selfish to me.

There is an area between apocalyptic destruction and decay, and complete pacifism. Let's work on the colors in life, it ain't just black and white.

Yes, amazing set.

Simply amazing.

Socialjism
Commujism
Capitaljism
Nihiljism
Fascjism

A great song, only played 11 times. 1970 a great year. High energy Pigpen. A totally under-rated, rocking song. I can't believe Tom Jones wrote it.. but it took James Brown to give it swing.

What's next on the agenda, world peace, ruthless dictators, steely eyed politicians, ethnic cleansing? Hope not, hate election years but I do vote. How about a non-political no-brainer.. like 5/7/1972.. listened to about half of it today playing hooky (sp?) from work on the river. Should I by chance get in any trouble.. it was totally worth it. "I'm not sorry." My favorite Lovelight > GDTRFB.. outstanding.

Also.. at the end of my waterproof device was some weird odds and ends. A Playing> Scarlet>Playing (I think) and the beginnings of a Help Slip! (no Franklins, ran out of space) origins unknown.. but hot as hell. Goodness.. what an escape from dictators gone astray. Soul cleansing, I highly recommend it.

Edit.. doing some finish work with some Cherry wood I scored a few years back and the 12/31/76 Morning Dew from the Cow Palace started on SiriusXM.. and all good with what's left of the world. This version and the next one from Sana Barbara are simply superb.. perhaps the best from the period, Cornell included.. but I like these two better.

Are you wedded to that list Jim, or are you open to suggestions for other controversial topics? Just asking for a friend.
Personally, it is the widespread dispersion of plastic waste from the depths of the oceans to the snows of the arctic that worries me. Buy a Zippo, save the wildlife, that's what I thought after seeing all the photo's of seabirds with stomachs full of plastic lighters and other plastic debris. Puts that line from the Graduate (one of the greatest movies of all time) in a new perspective.

Did not know that It's a Mans, Mans World was a Tom Jones tune.

.....gotta love some Mrs. Robinson. Another really good recent movie is Once Of A Time In Hollywood. Gotta love some Tarantino also.
Today in Grateful Dead history.
https://archive.org/details/gd1980-08-19.sbd.miller.88172.sbeok.flac16/…
....nice show from The Uptown. Gives Dave's 31 a run for it's money. Or is it better? Margarine? Parkay?

Read a little history will you. What was the other word used interchangeably by Marx for communism, yep you guessed it socialism. As the Thai say same same but different. In this case distorting the discussion by pretending there is a difference.
Definition of socialism.....state ownership of the economy. Thus the old canard about farm programs being socialist is no more true than saying the nordic countries are socialist. As I said before they are not the are capitalist .
A real western socialist country was The UK in the 70's. 55% of the economy was owned outright by the state. Thank God for Maggie.
In finishing do a little investigation before you open your mouth. You do know the old saying about the ---- who opens his mouth and proves it
Oh yeah this has absolutely nothing to do with an election year. It's about the unfortunate eternal fight for the future that can't be finally won because of silly people who never learn nevr study

Like Stoltzfus said. But in all caps.

Good grief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5bs_uH0j5w

Been revisiting this Pure Jerry release. Really like this version as well as Run for the Roses, and Masterpiece. Any opinions on other good Spike Driver Blues versions that I am missing? Thanks everyone. Bob t

There is a version of Spike Driver Blues on the JGB release On Broadway, October 28, 1987. I can't say anything else as I haven't actually picked it up yet, I keep meaning to and then getting distracted with something else. Now that I'm thinking about it, I probably ought to pick it up.

https://youtu.be/RjUhXF_5-VA
....you asked for it.
Jerry doing therapy while on the mend 😉
And not one downvote. Make it so number one. 👉

"You cannot reason people out of an opinion they did not arrive at by reason to begin with. "

William Boden as quoted by Andy Roberts in the book "Acid Drops".

I never learned how to be a proper American, and I understand it is easier to attack others with Fox News talking points, waving arms, and veiled insults. Sadly it just reinforces my point that this beautiful country is slipping into the hands of fascists and their sheeple. But you so eloquently stated that, "the future that can't be finally won because of silly people who never learn nevr study."

I guess I "never learn nevr study" and the path to the future I want for myself and younger generations is not paved in bodies, napalm burns, chemical weapons, and UXO, but empathy and prescient action guided by actual knowledge. Oh well me get smartr quick wen I think reel nice.

Anyway, I'm not concerned. "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice", and I would tend to agree. Backing us up we have people like Martin Luther King Jr., Dr. Seuss, Ken Kesey, Maya Angelou, Allen Ginsberg, Mr. Rodgers, the Dalai Llama and too many other quality human beings to count. What you guys got Tucker Carlson, Nixon, Xi, Ailes, Putin, and Trump? Nice team. I'm game for a match and I'm patient. History will favor the peacemakers not the family destroyers. Lastly, have you looked into how this band feels about this presidency and Republican goals? It's interesting you can tolerate the music makers but feel such unpatriotic disdain for myself and other citizens. Confusing to say the least.

You want to "win" the future and that's exactly the problem, it's not a trophy and it's not yours to take home, it belongs to those of us yet to come. Situation Normal All Fucked Up is not the world I want to leave my kids, if you think to leave that for future generations to inherit is a good idea, wow, I got nothing, except...

"All you got to live for,
Is what you left behind"

Hope everyone is enjoying the tail end of summer. It's what we wait all winter for in WI.

That said, I'm in Seattle now for a short visit and am looking forward to Woodland Park and maybe Green Lake in a bit.

Be Kind! :-)

Ain't you just so hip. Unfortunately for human beings it is a war for the future. If the side of imperfect free doesn't win the side represented by those I mentioned earlier will rule. Guided by Marx, Lennon, and Mao.
There is no permanent win because when one totalitarian state falls there's plenty of people like you to come back 20 years later. Venezuela is the latest example of that. And of course the Armand Hammers are always ready to sell the rope
You don't study, that much is obvious. As for setting up the straw man of perfection you need to look in the mirror. Fox news make me laugh, those of us who know the truth were around decades before them.
So go ahead float through life, ignorance truly is bliss until it catches up to you

Mod on: It is one thing to hold differing opinions. We all do. It is another, and not okay here, to impugn the intelligence, character, or other fine qualities of people who disagree with you. You insult people here, you will get blocked. I am not going to go back and delete every mildly derogatory political post for the last few days, but. It stops now. Thank you. Mod off.

TAOISM: Shit happens.

BUDDIHISM:If shit happens, it isn't really shit.

ZEN: What is the sound of shit happening?
And, if shit falls in the woods, does it make a sound?

HINDUISM: This shit happened before.

ISLAM: If shit happens, it is the will of Allah.

ISLAM II: If shit happens, kill the person(s) responsible.

SHI'ITE ISLAM:Shit must happen to Salmon Rushdie

CONFUCIANISM: Confucius says "shit happens."

PROTESTANTISM: Let shit happen to someone else.

CATHOLICISM: If shit happens, you deserved it.

JUDAISM: Why does shit always happen to us?

BAHA'I: Shit happens to everyone equally.

KRISHNA: Shit happens, shit happens, happens, happens, shit, shit.

VEDANTA: Shit happening is an illusion.

MORMON: 10% of my shit belongs to God.

CELTIC FOLKLORE: At the end of every rainbow is a pot of shit.

EARLY EGYPTIAN: Shit happens, the world is a microcosm of the universe;
therefore, the universe is shit.

SCIENTOLOGY: Shit can happen to you too.

TRANSACTIONAL ANALYST: I acknowledge my shit, and it's ok.

ATHEISM: Shit happens, therefore, there is no God.

AGNOSTICISM: Shit may or may not happen.

CHRISTIAN SCIENCE: It's not shit, and it's not happening.

SOLOPSISM: If there is no shit, it doesn't happen.

EXISTENTIALISM: So shit happens.

DECONSTRUCTIONALISM: What makes you think that's shit?

OPTIMISM: That's the best damn shit that ever happened.

PESSIMISM: It's all shit.

SHAMANISM: Shit is a fertilizer.

POLLYANNA: Where there is shit, there is life.

RASTAFARIANISM: Let's smoke this shit.

SECULAR HUMANISM: Shit evolves.

FUNDAMENTALISM: Born-again shit.

NEW AGE: If shit happens, honor and share it.

ORAL ROBERTS: Send me money or shit will happen.

RICHARD NIXON: I am not shit.

RONALD REAGAN: I don't recall shit happening.

HEISENBERG: Shit may happen and it may not.

CLARENCE THOMAS: Shit happened to me once, but I express regret.

DECARTES:1. Shit happens, therefore I am.
2. I am, therefore shit happens.
3. Cogito ergo defecato.

AA: Deal with shit one day at a time.

POLITICALLY CORRECTIONALISM: Defecated matter occurs.

N.O.R.M.L: Like gee, have ever looked really closely at a shit?

NAT'L RIFLE ASS'N: Shit doesn't happen, people do.

DIANETICS: Why does shit happen? See page 157 in Dianetics.

SHAKESPERE: To "pu" or not to "pu", that is the question.

LOGICIANS (Thanks to Usama Malik) : Is this shit sound and complete?

MATHEMATICIANS (Thanks to Aleksandar Ignjatovic): Is this shit continuous? Is this shit everywhere dense?

MALAYSIANS (No thanks to Norman!): Oh shit! Who did we not bribe enough?

ENGINEERS (Thanks to Harvey Tuch): How to make this shit (work)?

RADIO ASTRONOMERS (Thanks to Ric L Forster): Background noise is our shit.

EINSTEIN (Thanks to Ric L Forster): Time dilates all shit.

Mr. Dennis

Funny shit

that's a lot of shit

Wins the best post of August award

“Guided by Marx, Lennon, and Mao.”

What do you have against The Beatles?

Thank you marye, den mother to us middle aged teenagers

Awesome bass player!

I am going to deftly avoid this argument, though I know where I stand on the issues. So, this box set has me a little intrigued, more so than some others. The two 1989 shows is what really gets my attention. For the 1991 shows, the first night looks bland and the second night looks nice. However, I attended the Soldier Field show that year and I remember the constant Dark Star teases from Bruce drove me crazy-- and then they never really did it! The post-Brent era doesn't do it for me, generally. If a relative got me this one as a gift, I would be happy.

Speaking of Brent era, DaP 31 has me flummoxed. I always liked DiP 5 and the previous night's show released as a Road Trips. In fact, the 2nd set that makes up DiP 5 was one of the first tapes I had back in the day. Sorry, this show doesn't do it for me in the least.This pick may be my least favorite of all. I received it two-plus weeks ago and am just now finally finishing disc 3-- it grabbed me that little. The first set is fine (some folks complained about the Althea, I rather like this version), but the second set has several dirge-like versions of fine songs-- looking at you Terrapin and Wharf Rat. The Scarlet solo is clunky chords from Jerry and Lost Sailor and Saint are raw and underdeveloped at this stage. The Truckin' outtro jam is good, though.

I get that they want to diversify offerings in the series and I like getting a good Brent show-- hell, Brent was my guy when I was going to shows (1988-95, never felt they had 'it' after he died). This one is not a great show. If they need to put out Brent shows, let's explore more 1989-- nothing from Spring tour has been released and fall has seen minimal releases. Summer 1990, summer 1985, summer 1984 all have fine shows. I don't know what I am hearing that is different from folks who love this release-- different strokes for different folks, I guess.

I have been on a BIG Woodstock high for the past week. I am currently spinning The Very Best of Canned Heat.
As Fried Hockey Boogie begins, Alan Wilson introduces Larry "The Mole" Taylor on bass, and then a couple of seconds later I see here that he has died! Unbelievable!

R.I.P. Mole

Rock on

Dark Star is 80% good

They just kind of get stuck and dont know where to take it after that 80%

Appropriate lyrics in High Time which morphs out of Dark Star

"I'm having a hard time"

Given the folklore, they probably were.

I have not been a huge fan of post Brent Dead. I was really sad when he passed. However, I will say, the 6/17/91 show that I saw at the MUATM absolutely rocks. It really changed my mind on at least 91 shows. And to have these shows in 48 track, I can't wait to listen to these shows as well as the 24 track shows from 87 and 89. We need to support these releases and I hope they are able to sell out the 10,000 run! And more to come.

Not sure what the Vegas Odds are on these picks... but here goes.

#32 just has to be 1969. There are a lot of shows from this period from the vault.. decent recordings for the era and it's due. Besides.. it's the 50th anniversary for these shows, he almost has to.

#33 and the subscription attention getter. 12/18/73. Why? I think they have it and it kicks ass. Honorable mention 5/26/77 Baltimore Civic Center.

#34 and bonus disc. If they don't do 12/18/73, then a four disc wonder from the summer of 73. Otherwise.. a twofer from 76 or 71.

#35 and #36 could pull two shows from Summer '85, fall '80, spring '78 or summer or fall '84.

So a fortune teller, a republican, a democrat, a catholic priest and three monkeys all walk into a bar on a hot Saturday night and the priest says...

I too was “meh” about post Brent until I put some time in. The big 91 game changer was finally getting the view from the vault release and was pleasantly surprised. Recently I finally got around to the 30 trips 91 show, and that also was a nice surprise.....so goes to show.....just gotta poke around!
It seems not the general consensus here, but I’m getting stoked for this box. I’ve had the first set and start of second from the 87 show and it’s decent enough. Have always like 89, though I would prefer some more fall tour, Philly anyone? Dave, tap, tap, tap, is this thing on? And as mentioned above 91s been growing on me lately. Throw in the 48 track factor and yeah, I’m hoping it’s a good box!
Will it be E72, nope, will it be Fillmore, nope, will it be the Scobby Doo house, nope, but so what, it’ll still be some good ole GD and in amazing audio splendor! And finally some more video too!
Bring it!

Ok, hope things are sane here again? Yeeshk
I go see 2 nights of Rocky Mountain Folk fest, Nate and the Nightsweats on Monday, could of gone to Warren VIP at the rocks on Sunday but I just can’t do three or four days anymore.
Anyway, I come back from such fun and positive connections with folks to such noise, and that’s like what, 2 times in a few weeks? And things had been so nice around here for quite a while. Great spirit help us!

Where the hell’s Zuckfun?!

12-18-73
With bonus disc the missing songs from 12-19-73.
Wait, scratch that.
Complete 12-19-73 needs to be Plangentized along with 12-18-73. That would make a very nice mini Box.

6-14-76
or
6-29-76

... I swear I have no stake in this!

This Sunday, at the Union Brewery in Baltimore, Chris Jacobs (an AMAZING local guitar player,) and his band "The Ravens Space Cowboys", including one Graham Lesh, are recreating all of 4/19/82 - Baltimore Civic Center! And as far as a brewery, Union is truly one of the finest! Tix. are $20!

All day before the show, they are doing a full on vendor fair called "The Shakedown." Food trucks, hippie vendors, great beer!

Also, 4-!9-82 - Start to finish!

If you can get to B' more, this is totally worth it! This Sunday - Lots open early- show is around 6ish...

Peace

PS - I swear I have no stake in this, other than I'm fucking STOKED!

That's what the three monkeys are for..

Speaking of Zuck.. he was last heard from while developing the hybrid Carolina Reaper for use in his new brand of hot sauce. The seeds fell into the wrong hands..

Don't try this at home, kids..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy2d07r7HpU

Re: Otis.. that was my first show. Not sure I can pull this off though. Man.. was a psychedelic night. It was a dark and stormy night, Wasn't It? and the bus came by.

Dick's Picks 14, disc 3 - Wharf Rat > Toodeloo... probably blew my GD mind more than anything else in a while. Check it out! https://archive.org/details/gd73-12-02.aud.vernon.17278.sbeok.shnf

The whole show is incredible, especially the 2nd Set!

Peace

Otis.. check your PM. Goes to show, you don't never know.

Back atchya, Jimbo!

NEVERMORE!

Peace

You are definitely right about poking around. I love being surprised by these guys and it has happened many times. I also listened to the 30 Trips 91 show last week. Great show.! Just wait tell you see the Blu-ray, the Eyes opener blew me away.
I think we are due for a 73 show soon again, maybe 32.

I really have no idea what 32 might be, but I do like the idea of a '69 release and given the 50th anniversary of the year it seems like a good choice to close out the years picks. Mainly I'm just hoping for something with good sound, other than that I'm not too invested in which particular show or year they release next. I will join the others who have mentioned Summer '85 as release worthy, SPAC in particular.

I am definitely stoked for this box. Given the multitrack source material I am hoping for sound to rival or exceed the Spring '90 TOO box, a box which has fantastic sound. I'm curious how long it will take to sell out.

I think the next Dave’s Pick will be an early Keith show. In an earlier video this year, Dave mentioned the variety of what has been released. He mentioned Pigpen and Tom, Keith and Donna with two drummers, Brent, etc. Going off of that, I think the next pick with be 71-74 where there’s Keith and one drummer.

Too funny, I have a poster with most of that in our powder room.
But remember what Mr Lahey would say...”no more shit talk Randers till we’re back in power”

I have not seen anyone discuss, but I have been wondering if Live Dead will be included in the 50th re-issue series, and if so what the bonus material would be. Since this year is also the 50th of this album.

4/15/78