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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • #1731
    RobbZ
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    Ya Know....

    I dig me some 87 and 89......

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orlJKiOBWqE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKtrz_fvmoc

  • #1732
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    Another box

    I do feel bad that some will have to wait till next year for new music I really wish there was another smaller box coming of another era I would buy it in a minute.

  • #1733
    icecrmcnkd
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    Yes, sell the video separately

    What’s the worst that could happen, you make more money?

    Or at least offer it with the CD.
    Kind of like Crimson, White, and Indigo; Sunshine Daydream; Egypt.

    Does that mean that a VHS would then come with the vinyl?

    I ordered the BluRay Box. Looking forward to it. A nice addition to the collection.

    It’s been a good Jerry Week so far. I didn’t make it to the movie but I did order this Box, received and have listened to DaP 31 twice, and JGB 11-11-93 was at my door when I got home and is about to go in the CD player.

    Do Rolling Stones fans bash former Stones members when the new live release isn’t the one they wanted?

    Do Allman Brother’s Band fans bash former ABB members when the new live release isn’t the one they wanted?

    I’m grateful for all releases.
    Keep them coming Dave/Rhino/TPTB.
    Just please, put a little more effort into quality control and logistics.

  • #1734
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    "They're not the best at what they do. They're the only ones that do what they do."

  • #1735
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    Doc, ice cream

    Blue Moon

    Mmmmmmm........

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_moon_(ice_cream)

  • #1736
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    Old age isn't so bad when you consider the alternative..........

    63 12-1-73

    Just for the record: love the band, don't care for the era, I was there so it's not knee-jerk, uninformed choice. I choose not to attack or use personal insult. If somebody gets a box because I pass, good for them. Many don't care for the 90s, or 80s, 70s, or 60s. Me, I like the 50s.

    Besides, life's too short, had one stroke already, not planning on a second because I don't like the current release. If I did, I'd have 30 strokes already.

    This is why there's different flavors of ice cream. Some mysteriously prefer pistachio, while we all know that coffee chocolate chip peanut butter cup cookie dough is the best...…….

    Settle down easy,

    Doc

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    I’m delighted for those who’ve been asking for more 80s and 90s Dead, this box is for you guys. I might buy the single show but I won’t be buying the box. I’ve bought around 80% of the releases since One From The Vault came out 28 years ago and, on the basis of these purchases, formed the view that the quality of their performance deteriorated markedly during the latter years of the Dead’s existence. That isn’t to say there weren’t still great moments and great shows, but that, for me anyway, they became fewer and further between.

    I’m not particularly disappointed that this box isn’t for me; I have more than enough GD to keep me going, I’m pleased I won’t need to justify another GD box to my wife, I’m also pleased I don’t have to find another $150 (nearer $200 when U.K. delivery and import duties are taken into account) and then of course this release probably means we’ll be back to something a little more up my street next year. Right now I’m also slightly reluctant to spend any more money at dead.net until the DP31 European shipping fiasco is resolved and left behind.

    Despite not being a particular fan of the 80s and 90s, I really don’t get or like the Brent bashing. My lack of passion for this era has very very little to do with him. Indeed, I say his keyboard playing is one of the more positive aspects of late 80s GD. For me the problem stems from basic musicality; playing in tune and playing in time and together, the latter in particular becomes a more frequent problem for the GD as the years go on. The nadir for me is the Warlocks box which, whilst not without the occasional bright point, is at times cringingly embarrassing. So much that when hearing it for the first time I was half expecting someone to come on from the wings waving their arms and shouting “stop... stop.... STOP! Sorry guys, you’re just not getting it”. That said, I find much of Terrapin Limited, the second disc in particular, reciorded around 6 months later, nothing short of outstanding. I guess that’s the GD for you, particularly the GD in their latter years.

    Then there’s Garcia’s voice, which becomes more and more of a disappointment as the years go on. Others have said they don’t listen to the GD for the singing; I don’t either, but the dead wrote a many truly magnificent songs and it’s always a pleasure to hear these played and sung really well.

    There are other reasons to . . . those interminably tedious Dylan covers for instance . . . but aside from mediocre songwriting (something that wasn’t unique to Brent), these have very little to do with Brent.

    Each to their own. I wish all of you who purchase this box, particularly those who’ve been waiting for something this era, happy listening. I’ll enjoy looking forward to the next 1970s box and spending my $150 on something else 😎

  • #1738
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    34 here.

    First Dead related show..err 6/17/17 Dead & Co at Fenway. Loved it until someone passed out in front of us and some Karen screamed at us for not doing anything for him, as the medics arrived. She had her hand on his shoulder, really stepping up where we didn't. Thanks for your help. Go to hell.

    8 Dead & Co shows now, still a work in progress. More to come.

    Still learning in all eras, coming up on 5 years of starting a 'deeper dive' into the Dead, beyond the big albums, etc. I did pick up the May '77 boxset as well as 11/30/80 randomly in 2013, they were...bewildering compared to Skeletons in the Closet and Europe '72, Vol 1.

    Know very little post-Brent, what was in 30 Trips, etc. Looking forward to all three years in the new set. Used to only know Bruce Hornsby for the song he wrote for 2pac. (.....joke)

    Fired up Dave's 31 for the first time as well, first disc in the car today. Keith is the best acoustic pianist they had in my opinion, that was rock n' roll piano, but Brent's energy and the addition of the B3 is a needle mover. As Sean Connery said in You Only Live Twice:

    Bond: Why do Chinese girls taste different than other girls?
    Ling: You think we better
    Bond: No, just different. Like Peking duck is different from Russian caviar, but I love them both.
    Ling: Darling, I give you very best duck

    Ok that's a terrible out-dated and inappropriate example. Scratch that.

    Waiting for a Dylan Fall tour announcement, as well as the next Bootleg Series (potentially). Sounds like they are exploring '67-69 which will be interesting, though it's been partially covered already. Any John Wesley Harding outtakes would be very interesting. With both being on Columbia, I can see them doing the Dylan / Cash sessions from '69 officially as well. While historic given the two of them, they really are not that good, in my opinion.

    I did get some Dead exposure through Dylan before I knew them better. My first show was in 2006 during college, got in heavily in the year prior, but I heard the boots. When Jerry died, Dylan did dust off Friend of the Devil against in September '95, staying (randomly) in the repertoire through 2002 with a one off at Red Rocks in 2007. But the other tune he chose, starting in October 1995....obviously Alabama Getaway.

    I'd hear talk about this great songwriter Robert Hunter that Dylan teamed up with, the results being Silvio and The Ugliest Girl In The World. :/

    He also joined up with him on Together Through Life, an album I LOVE but maybe not the greatest songwriting testament for these two pillars of the western world. But I don't care, I love it. And despite some silly writing, the peaks are actually great songs.

    Here's one I was at, great show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYC6VKnPhks

    And a Getaway, before my time (not sure why they chose a '66 photo but sure): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPpmF3154As

  • #1739
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    All this has become very tricky since I met Bolo and have subsequently had Witness Protection issues, multiple passports, etc...

    My current passport states I am 53, 4/19/82 was my first show. I found my self face to face with with two quite pleasant pieces of paper; nothing has been the same since but in a good way.

    Mama, mama many worlds I've come since I first left home.

    Hey guys and gals, please resist the temptation to call others out by name.. the back and forth is giving me whiplash, and to what end? There is no reason for it.. be general, be positive and push the conversation along. Is it my imagination or does this shit always seem to happen around election time? Perhaps we are all being played?

    Good movie, btw.. whiplash. See it.

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    I loved the first show I saw, in March 1981, but to have seen them in 1972 would have been amazing. I was 15 then, and a shade too young to travel out of my hometown to go to London. Any case, I didn't know who The Dead were in 1972-I saw T. Rex and David Bowie in then-great, but a long way off.
    But those final shows of the tour, at the Lyceum-maybe they were the best ever played by the band on these shores? Great sounding venue, too, going off the sleeve notes for the cds. Bickershaw is a great show, and some of the other bands/artists performing were great-but I didn't much like big festivals-and that one doesn't look to rosy in the pictures.
    Spacebrother- good to read that you are in fine fettle and enjoying life. Don't let the naysayers grind you down. I must say I enjoy being 62 more than I did being 26. You never know what the future holds, but so far so good!

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

.... enjoys the Trey Anastasio Band, their set at Lockn' is streaming live for free on YouTube
https://youtu.be/dSFpGA3w2SE
.... rumor is Derek Trucks is gonna sit in for the second set.
The Norman interview is grate news nitecat. Time to multitask??
Edit. 5 pm PST? Guess it's over. Stupid work.

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Submitted by nitecat on Fri, 08/23/2019 - 20:26

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I'm with you mustin, let them out! I don't get it.

and vguy, Ed puts those shows up in an accessible cloud a few days after broadcast. That's how I'm going to listen to it sometime soon. I listened to some of the first hour and they chatted about Norman's process, and the difficulties of working with such old tapes. It's a very cool conversation.

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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Fri, 08/23/2019 - 21:28

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*1-20-1979 Shea's Theatre~Buffalo,NY
*4-3-1987 The Centrum~Worcester,Mass.
*8-6-1971 Hollywood Palladium (good grief...might be my favorite Truckin'...for sure one of 'em) (Other One->Me & My Uncle->Other One ain't no joke either...)
*6-4-77 The Forum~Inglewood,Ca.
*12-16-1978 Nashville,Tennessee
Put some headphones on and get some.
:O)

I can remember the first time I heard that. At a friends house, on an old audience recorded cassette. Must be about 25 years ago now-he had the biggest collection of Dead tapes I had ever seen. And due to what I have come to realise was characteristic Deadhead generosity, so soon did I.
Anyway, I can still see him watching my face for signs of recognition as they went from The Other One to Me and My Uncle. Incredible jamming.
It was something of a golden age for me and Dead music, the early 1990s. Not because of the music they were playing at the time, but due to all these amazing tapes that suddenly fell into my lap, and the communal listening. Happy days.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 04:35

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Thanks for the shout out DaveRock...I do love me some Ween, but don’t stop with Chocolate & Cheese. 12 Golden Country Greats, Mollusk & White Pepper are all excellent from top to bottom. Others here might recmend more?, but those four are my go to’s.

Spinners - I first encountered them at Further back in the late 90s. Very strange was my initial reaction. I attended a good number of concerts in this time frame, but experienced nothing like the Gd scene of course. Over the last several years as I continue digging on this band, attending numerous cover concerts and then D&C this summer, I have garnished new appreciation for spinners. This is all just my opinion, but First, I think it’s important to understand that there are different types of spinners, and that for the most part spinners are really just dancers who are very emotionally involved and enjoying the music on a whole other level. I used to think that this had to be drug induced, but I know better now for certain that it doesn’t have to be. I only know this because as my own listening experiences have intensified, I am not ashamed to admit that I find myself morphing into a spinner of sorts. I have never found a band that gets me emotionally involved like this one does and so I dance and spin at live shows, and in the living room, and sometimes doing yard work. Granted a pocket full of stems and caps can make this experience more fun, but certainly not necessary to achieve a spin or more. I’ve also been very buzzy lately and have not finished my Gorge D&C story, but here is a small sample. On Saturday night at The Gorge (2nd show), my wife and I were on the floor/in the pit, and there was a type of spinner that I had not encountered before. He was spinning in place, straight as a pencil like a figurine ballerina stuck in a jewelry box. Arms were straight on his side without waving around or being raised. His head was down, looking towards the ground, and he appeared to be mumbling something quietly (maybe lyrics?) like Dustin Hoffman in Rainman. The only movement was a slight shift in his feet which allowed the continuous spin. My wife told me later that for a few seconds she put her finger on top of his head, and that he kept spinning away. I have not graduated to this level of spinning, but with good practice, who knows what could happen. I’m reminded of One flew over the Cuckoos Nest!

Dead and Co Tix - someone asked the going rate. I bought 2 on the floor for both upcoming nights at Hampton. I paid $10 extra (180.00 per ticket) for the 3D Collector Tickets, so after Ticket Bastard was done adding their fees it was a little over $200 per ticket. Shhh....I have yet to ask my wife permission. It will be a negotiation which I have a very good chance of losing. If I lose, I figure I can sell them and make my money back.

Today is my daughters 9th birthday party. We have rented a local shelter at a park and will be hosting 40 children for a picnic romp. I will not be tripping, but it may feel like it...pray for me!!!

KCJ

PS—As of last night, according to recent GD email update, less than 1,000 left of the Giants BluRay box set. I pre-ordered the vinyl a couple weeks back, but finally pulled the trigger on the box as well!

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Submitted by darkstarkeith on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 07:05

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I agree. I would totally buy 11/5/79 and 11/6/79 if they were available to download. I don’t see a reason to remove them from dead.net if they are only digital. I wonder if the archive has comparable sound quality to the official releases.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 07:48

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Thats january, not a typo'd 11

Wow. High energy affair.

Excellent show.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 09:59

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NITECAT: nice to see ya! Thanks for the tip. Hopefully I’ll get to that as it sounds like a tech feast for this geek!
SPINNERS 74: now even more intrigued. Curious how, when and where all that began?
JRF68: 1/20/79, my first....curious what you thought?
MUSTIN321: Philly 79. I was at 11/9/79, my biffday, and have thought that was a good show, but think that 11/6/79 show is my favorite from that tour? At end of year I will have to check out the December Oakland shows for 40th anniversary though for better comparison. I recall their awesome, and they seem to get love here, but I haven’t listened to them in quite awhile....
STOLTZY: coming at us with all kinds of good stuff!; 3/23/75, damn, didn’t know that was out, shee-ite. Yet more to covet! I’m with you, one time around and I’d be down! Now, gettin down to the sound of da rubber band man, I’m down with that! Love all that early 70s funk and Soul Jazz. Dove into the soul jazz pretty deep a few years back; Idris Muhammad, the Mighty Burner, Melvin Sparks, Donald Bird, Grover Washington Jr before he went all Kenny G, The “Smith’s” on Organ, Deodato, so much good music!
Some may say nay, but we are the knights that say nit, or Summer 85, fug yeah, bring it!
1/5/79; what’s the sound quality on that one? That whole early 79 era is sorta uncharted space, but being my early times I feel I need to dig into that sometime. But I believe BobT, Boblopes? sorry, senile, one of the Bobs has mentioned there’s not much of this in the vault...
7/4/89; I agree there are some ebbs etc, but this one over the years continues to grow on me. I tried to blow through as much of the 89 summer tour anniversary’s as I could this summer, and to me that one stands out. I think I might like it more than Alpine even, gulp, I know, that’s saying a lot and I’m sure some will have alternative feelings on that LOL. How spoiled are we that we even have so much awesome music to debate over!
8/6/74; been circling around on this one lately. Did an abridged version again last night; Playing>>Scarlet>>Playing, Eyes, UJB, and the whole He’s gone until the end sequence. After finally scoring Dave’s 17 been getting better acquainted with that one. Maybe not as strong overall as some of the previously released 74 stuff, but I’d say that bar is pretty high! Yumm, need more summer 74! Perhaps that 7/25/74 DS etc?
BEER; icremkid, Stoltzy? Whom ever suggested that Bells, Tanks! So far have only been able to get the Two Hearted Ale But man that has been an awesome summer treat. Looking forward to trying some of their other nectar! Been turned on to some great new brewskis this summer; Oscars Can-o-Bliss, both the Hazy and the tropical, and Freemonts Summer Ale, American Pale Ale. I think Freemont May be my new favorite brewery. Anchor will always hold emeritus standing, but I’m not sure I’ve had a Freemont I didn’t like yet. Hearing about Vermont being the new big boy on the Beer block now, but not familiar, YET, with any? Any suggestions out there?
I’ve have one for all y’all: Bonfire Brewing, just a mile into town, many awesome flavors. Fire starter ipa is a good start, personally been big into their WtFO for probably the past year. Damn, this is making me thirsty but I have too much to do! Dooooo!
Have Great Weekend All!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 11:41

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A better concert venue than ski resort.

Behind Boreal is Sugar Bowl which has some really nice terrain.
My favorite is Squaw/Alpine.
Sugar Bowl is second fav in the Tahoe area.

Oroborous,
Bell’s is mighty fine stuff. Hope you can try some other flavors soon.

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Submitted by nitecat on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 14:40

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I was there! Dusty and hot, with plenty quipment issues. Ground was full of weeds and rocks. Guess what? I still had fun!

Hey VGuy.. I was at that show.. I think I posted about it here, so much fun.. what a great venue and a great festival.

Thanks for sharing.. going to pass it on to the buddies I went with.

Otis.. check, if you're out there.. check your email.

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Submitted by eyes43 on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 19:20

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These were being sold not too long ago through Warner Music’s store on amazon. They are no longer available, but I got this email the other day from an online retailer that sells all kinds of band merch called merchbar. They have some of the 30 TATS All Music Edition box sets available. For anyone that missed out on this box set and would like to get at least the music edition, here is the link:
https://www.merchbar.com/rock-alternative/grateful-dead/grateful-dead-3…

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 19:29

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The pigeon is the spinner of the bird world.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 21:29

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Interesting article VGuy, I wasn't really even wondering about this until reading the back and forth between you and Carlo13. I actually have a couple of hops plants growing in my garden in full flower right now, planted them just on a goof, it was like a couple bucks for a piece of root stock so I grabbed a couple and threw them in the garden. They are actually pretty cool, kind of interesting flowers.

Gave the 11/6/77 Broome County show from DaP 25 this afternoon while I had the house to myself, pretty enjoyable show from my point of view. Some flubbed lyrics on FOTM but some cool jamming throughout. The Good Lovin' sounds really similar to the version on Shakedown Street, an album I think is due for another spin.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 23:13

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....in California during the '90's, and heads were selling Sierra Nevada Pale Ales. I was like, " what is that?" Kinda like spinners, my mind's eye was opened.
So, in the end, cheers!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 23:43

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Very interesting. Thanks.

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Submitted by mformica on Sun, 08/25/2019 - 09:19

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Was at all these shows. I didn't think of the 7/12/87 as being an early show. I always considered it as a 3 set show. It just happens to be that the 3rd set was all Bob Dylan songs, with Dylan singing. Its too bad that the 3rd set isn't included in this box set.

But I can't wait to hear it. all over again

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 08/26/2019 - 08:51

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Thanks, I will see if beerman can hook me up with some of that double next time!

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Mon, 08/26/2019 - 21:41

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...a pretty large box set with many additions ...
I believe it’s gonna be a welcomed boxset fro most fans., I’m in 100% , graditude in a bohemian standing , is that the correct phrase I mean ?! I’m sorry, for my poorly written posts. I’m doing the best I can. I’m trying reall hard to be good and get better. I don’t want to give up I’m a fighter for my well being both physical and. SpiritualY 🙏❤️🤠

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 08/26/2019 - 22:00

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Good to see a post from you

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 08/26/2019 - 22:13

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I jhereby call for some 84 shows for release. A lotta good shows

Such as 5/6/84

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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 07:45

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R.I.P.~Neal Casal
...thanks for the music.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 08:30

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Oroborous- I emailed Lemieux about a year ago to see about the early 1979 tape quality in the Vault. He basically said and I am paraphrasing here) there is really not anything that meets the audio quality benchmark for release. I can't speak for January 5th, but I did download a great audience recording of January 10th, witch has either the last or second to last Godchaux Dark Star. I don't listen to any AUD recordings except this, and I find it incredibly "even" throughout Dark Star (i.e. no fluctuations in volume, patches, flutter, flitter, etc). Like the old Dunkin' Donuts jingle said....."it's worth the trip". That being said, I only downloaded about half of it:

Music Never Stopped
Shakedown Street
I Need a Miracle
Bertha
Good Lovin'
Dark Star
Wharf Rat
St. Stephen
Stagger Lee

Most of that Godchaux era Shakedown Street material in one show (FOTM doesn't really count). From the Heart of Me is not there, though I like it and would have enjoyed it. Shakedown Street is there ! The only official Godchaux release you get of that on is Rocking the Cradle.......unless of course you've bastardized your digital rip of "Road Trips: From Egypt with Love" by including the Estimated => Shakedown from 11/24/78, which fits right in from an "audio and performance sound representation" standpoint). Or I suppose if you were a real jack-hole, you may may have slipped the Rocking the Cradle" Shakedown Street into "The Closing of Winterland" folder in your digital folder - but I haven't done that yet. But you know, they are both multi-tracks releases, and they DID play Shakedown the previous night, and they SHOULD have played it at the Closing.....and so on and so on (by the time you're finished rationalizing it, the Ring really was a birthday present to Gollum).

Dennis - I'm still very interested in the PM you sent, I'm just in a weird place with my internet data rate until I get some things taken care of. Thanks for thinking of me. I'll let you know as soon as I get it.

I am so far behind on posts, I don't think I'm ever getting caught up. Apologies if I owe anyone a response.

--KeithFan2112

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 10:12

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Can’t believe he is gone.

He was a guitarist that I was looking forward to seeing for many years into the future.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 10:53

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Thanks for confirming that. I know there is some decent audience tapes from then, and I have heard a decent 1/10/79, but always hoped/wondered that there might be something better in the vault. Alas not to be, which is a bummer since my first is 1/20/79, which I have an Audience copy that sounds decent, but the levels are all over the place.
Anyway, thanks and hopefully you’ll get stuff figured out and will be back regularly entertaining us soon!

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 10:54

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My only real exposure to his music is the bonus material with the Soldier Field 50th box bonus material as played between sets. I listen to that every so often and like it.

I never realized how much he has really contributed to other artists and am surprised he slipped under my radar.

Any recommendations of his stuff to explore?

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 11:12

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Get well soon ZLMG! Sending good vibes your way.

Listened to the Dylan & the Dead a couple of days back. A box with all if their sets together plus the mass of rehearsal material would make for a pretty substantial sized set. I seem to recall a lot of rehearsal material in circulation that would be lovely to be professionally mastered.

I used to kind of gloss over the Dylan and the Dead CD, but upon recent listening, it's incredibly underrated. I never really sought out this material in my cassette collecting days, but realize I've been missing out on some true Grateful Magic.

Please be true. Would love to see a nice set of The Dead with Dylan.

I caught the '87 Alpine run just prior to the Dylan/Dead stadium run, and those shows were pure magic. Probably among my fondest live Dead experiences. Not quite the massive draw they would become weeks later, but playing at the top of their game for that era. Such a bummer the vault recordings for this run aren't well recorded. This would have been a Holy Grail '87 set. '87 Red Rocks is one they do have and hope to see released.

I'm pretty stoked for this Giants box. The preview material is awesome. The artwork in the promos look similar to the style of the last May '77 box.

Don't know about you guys but 8/27/72 is my Dead show 3 hour hike music for the day.

Have a good one.

Ooh before I forget, someone mentioned Road Trips '79 Spectrum downloads. I too wish those were made available again. Missed out on that too. Would love to have.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 11:50

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Thank you for posting this link. I had a chance to listen to a good chunk of it. Very interesting. Sounds like Norman keeps digital copies of all the projects he works on in 24 bit/192. Got me thinking how great it would be to see some of these items released in Multi-channel formats like SACD or DVD Audio. That would be really sweet!
Also got me thinking based on this interview that the entire Vault had not been digitized yet. You would think this would be a big priority for them. I would volunteer to help them out with that project.
Have they ever disclosed how many shows they have in the Vault?

Spacebrother, I was at Alpine in 87 as well, awesome time. We had a small camper with four guys. Parked in the lot for the duration and of course had the time of our lives. The 87 crowd was so different than the 86 crowd we saw the year before. I think the drought was 88, remember that run?

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 12:19

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Neal was the guitar player in Chris Robinson Brotherhood and there are a lot of CRB show recordings on their website.

Neal was also in Hard Working Americans, which I think was better than CRB.
Check out the CD/DVD “First Waltz”.

Also, Circles Around The Sun started playing live shows, some of which are on YouTube. They also put out a second album.

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 14:27

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Very sorry and surprised to read of his passing. I was lucky enough to see the Chris Robinson Brotherhood in London in 2015.

My favourite CRB recording is the live Betty's Blends volume 2, also from 2015. Features They Love Each Other, and a great opening Vibration and Light Suite.

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 19:08

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I know i over plug 11/20/78 Cleveland Music Hall Set II, way too much.... But if you get a chance, I always had an audience version, listen to Music Never Stopped to Aiko!!! Especially the audience tape.... Scarlet>Fire to open second set.....Estimated into He's Gone and a Drums with Garcia on steel drums!!!!

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Submitted by Gratefulhan on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 19:13

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It is sad to hear about Neal Casal. I was only familiar with his work on Circles Around the Sun. Man life is short and it can end suddenly. You never know...

Talking about 1984 shows I recently got into 6/27/84 Merryweather. It's a solid show, well played and with a great setlist. I haven't had much exposure 84 shows so I was happy with what I heard. I need to listen to more from that year.

1/10/79 is a great show. I downloaded it from the Archive years ago. It's a bummer it is not in th vault but the audience source I have isn't bad. Now the Dark Star is pretty good for the era and there is also a St. Stephen in the 2nd set to. I am fairly positive this is the last time both of these songs were played in the same show. However the rest of the show is really good to. I haven't listened to it in a while but i recall Shakedown and Music Never Stopped being exceptional.

....there is a very nice Matrix of that show out there.
Regarding Casal. I really don't get it. He looked so happy this last weekend at Lockin'. I'm not a psychiatrist but I have a nice couch.
Boggles my mind.
The build up tuning into Mexicali at the RPI field house in the stuff I crave

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