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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • #361
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    Trainwreck I gave you a flip remark last night because I was in the car and couldn't really respond. Let me preface my comment by saying I listen to the Pacific Northwest box set often and as dead Vikes said it gets better all the time, those 73 shows. In my humble opinion the 1974 shows from that box set sound better then any other 1974 release. I'll say that with a caveat that there are a few that are just as good. Skeleton Skaters from Winterland is one such example. 30 Trips '74 is another. Obviously the movie soundtrack doesn't count because it's a multi-track and of course it sounds great. But yeah, the 73 shows from Pacific Northwest are at the lower Echelon of sound quality for the officially released 1973 shows at least to my ears. To your point the first show that has Bird Song on it is a notch better. But hey, I also find when I listen to one of those shows for a long duration I get used to the sound quality. Your ears get this sort of audio desensitization. Kind of like when you walk into a room with a bad smell but then it doesn't seem so bothersome after 15 minutes.

    So I went on this insane quest last night after the announcement of Dave's Picks 32 to list all of the Spectrum shows I saw. I had to use a couple of websites to nail down the dates, and some of these we're at the new Arena that they built in the mid-90s which has had a lot of different names. But most of the shows we're at the original Spectrum. I had the privilege of seeing the last event at both JFK stadium in Philly and the Spectrum. JFK of course was the Grateful Dead with Crimson White and Indigo, and the Spectrum was Pearl Jam the night before Halloween.

    I have to say I am shocked at how many shows I saw just at this one venue. This doesn't count any other venue in that Broad Street complex or the Greater Philadelphia area or shows I've seen all over New Jersey New York and even as far south Baltimore. This may only be 30% of my total concert goings. Could put a kid through college. For occasions where the band played multiple nights on a visit to town, I put all the nights on one line. So the list is even worse than it appears but... It's all right.

    80sFan you must have been at at least a couple of these I would think. It got late and I did not get passed 2009 comma but I thought it was appropriate to just stop at Pearl Jam since that was the last show at the actual Spectrum.

    Pearl Jam 10/30/09
    The Who 10/26/08
    Rush 6/14/08
    Genesis 9/19/07
    The Who 11/25/06
    The Who 9/12/06
    Pearl Jam 4/28/03
    Rush 10/27/02
    KISS Pycho Circus 11/21/98
    Van Halen 5/24/98
    Jane's Addiction 11/10/97
    Motley Crue 10/24/97 (did not go in; balloons in parking lot only)
    The Who 11/17/96
    AC/DC 9/6/96
    AC/DC 3/14/96
    KISS 10/8, 10/9, & 10/11 - 1996
    Rod Stewart 2/16/96
    Page & Plant 10/24/95
    Page & Plant 4/3/95 (Sr year college; too hungover next day to drive to college in MD to take exam; dickhead professor gave me a zero; no makeup exam allowed - almost didn't walk in June)
    Yes 8/26/94 ( Chris Squire and Trevor Rabin were at the WMMR Studio the day of the show. I called the station to see if I could say hello to them comma not really thinking that anyone would pick up the phone while there were high-profile guests in the studio, but they picked up one one ring. I said hello can I speak to Chris squire? They said sure and two seconds later the familiar voice was on the other end of my phone. I was so unprepared for the spur of the moment incident that I didn't quite know what to say so I blurted out that I loved his solo album Fish Out of Water. I had recently acquired it on vinyl as it had long been out of print. He was thrilled, and let me tell you I couldn't get the guy off the phone! The call ended with me telling him I would be in attendance that night from the fourth row. He said wear something sexy. Everybody laughed on the air oh, it was a killer moment)
    Rush 4/29 & 4/30 - 1994
    Rush 12/1 & 12/3 - 1991 ( my brother worked for Spectacor and those days, which was a merchandising company of some sort that was located at the Spectrum. That man he could get into the Spectrum whenever he wanted and so we went to see one of the sound checks. We kept to the side so they wouldn't see us because we didn't want to get booted out. We got to see them do a couple of songs and then we went to the section right above the entrance behind the stage to the dressing room and waited for them to walk a couple feet below us. We missed meal because we didn't get there quickly enough but we said hello to Geddy and Alex. They came a minute apart or so and Alex waved and said hello and smiled and kept going. When Geddy came by my brother said hey we're big fans, I risked my job to come say hello. Now Geddy didn't seem too pleased that we were there. He said oh well hi then and kept going.)
    Yes 7/12 & 7/13 - 1991
    Yes 4/16/91
    Paul Simon 3/27/91
    Rush 4/24 & 4/27 - 1990
    Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe 3/19/90
    Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe 8/3/89
    Bon Jovi 6/20/89
    Yes 2/7/88
    Rush 12/13 & 12/14 - 1987
    Yes 11/29/87
    Van Halen 8/5/86
    Rush 4/14/86
    KISS 9/7/79

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    Put in my dispute on my CC this morning. No response from CS about my order. Might wait on early dead but not this. Its impossible to believe that dead.net can't get one, not even one, of the releases to go out without problems.

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    OH Man, better charge up the iPod

    Almost forgot that I have the Giants Box set on my iPod, just have to charge up the bugger before midnight.

    800,000 northern California PG&E customers will be without the juice!
    Many heads out here. hope it don't last too long.
    wish i had more flash lights.

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    Out Go the Lights!

    PG&E is shutting down the power grid all over the Northern California tonight! for at least 36 hours or more...
    I won't be able to listen to my sweet ass Giants Stadium Box for a few days. And I won't be able to lurk on Dead.net either.
    ah damn, first world problems again.

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    Prior to the AM Dew on this '87 Giants Box....

    ....Bobby tells the crown to "take a step back like Walking Like An Egyptian". I paraphrased that, but to this day, I still do that dance when I hear it. Because it's a good song and I like The Bangles. Win. Win.
    They even played with them in The Big Easy in '88.
    Rough around the edges, but solid. Hey Now!
    https://youtu.be/8UtRTzkLeGU
    It's all about the ENERGY! And it is presently spilling over on my phone.

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    Trainwrecked, I think we never know for sure how the sound quality will end up being with the early 70s shows. You know how it goes, some are top notch, others not so much. Just imagine if they recorded 73 like they recorded E72 with the remote truck. Mind blowing. I know what you are saying about PNW. I think the 73 shows after the first song, are awesome. They get better after they have been put away and brought back out again. 74 and wall of sound shows are always a different animal, especially in two track. Not an expert but I think it had to do with the two microphone set up and how that ends up sounding on recordings. For sure sounded great live but has a different sound to it on these releases. Certainly not bad, just different. I even think 73 sounds better than 74 with most of the releases.

    On to the Spectrum, can't wait!

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    Got to agree with toy. I saw a bunch of shows there in my 80's alway big fun the Spectrum was a great place for shows

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    Wow!! I would say wow.!Like wow. This pick is a grea...... WOW!!

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    Wow

    This has always been one of my favorite shows from 1973. We are blessed.

    As an aside, the spectrum was my home arena for shows! 1973 was before my time but I’m super excited for another spectrum release. Believe we’ve already gotten a few: 1982 road trips, 2 fall1979 downloads, and the monster dicks picks from fall 72!

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    a real buzzkill

    Is one someone who didn't even have a problem complains. I feel for those who had issues but some people make it sound like this occurs on every other order. I'll bet the total number of actual problems equals a very small percentage of the total sales. Probably no worse than Amazon or whatever. I guess that's what happens when you give people a soapbox to stand on. Like that guy the other day encouraging people to make false credit card reports by saying they did not receive their merchandise when they did and then canceling their payment. Really get a life.

    Philly 73 wooooooo!

    See look how bob t does it.

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

.... enjoys the Trey Anastasio Band, their set at Lockn' is streaming live for free on YouTube
https://youtu.be/dSFpGA3w2SE
.... rumor is Derek Trucks is gonna sit in for the second set.
The Norman interview is grate news nitecat. Time to multitask??
Edit. 5 pm PST? Guess it's over. Stupid work.

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Submitted by nitecat on Fri, 08/23/2019 - 20:26

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I'm with you mustin, let them out! I don't get it.

and vguy, Ed puts those shows up in an accessible cloud a few days after broadcast. That's how I'm going to listen to it sometime soon. I listened to some of the first hour and they chatted about Norman's process, and the difficulties of working with such old tapes. It's a very cool conversation.

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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Fri, 08/23/2019 - 21:28

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*1-20-1979 Shea's Theatre~Buffalo,NY
*4-3-1987 The Centrum~Worcester,Mass.
*8-6-1971 Hollywood Palladium (good grief...might be my favorite Truckin'...for sure one of 'em) (Other One->Me & My Uncle->Other One ain't no joke either...)
*6-4-77 The Forum~Inglewood,Ca.
*12-16-1978 Nashville,Tennessee
Put some headphones on and get some.
:O)

I can remember the first time I heard that. At a friends house, on an old audience recorded cassette. Must be about 25 years ago now-he had the biggest collection of Dead tapes I had ever seen. And due to what I have come to realise was characteristic Deadhead generosity, so soon did I.
Anyway, I can still see him watching my face for signs of recognition as they went from The Other One to Me and My Uncle. Incredible jamming.
It was something of a golden age for me and Dead music, the early 1990s. Not because of the music they were playing at the time, but due to all these amazing tapes that suddenly fell into my lap, and the communal listening. Happy days.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 04:35

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Thanks for the shout out DaveRock...I do love me some Ween, but don’t stop with Chocolate & Cheese. 12 Golden Country Greats, Mollusk & White Pepper are all excellent from top to bottom. Others here might recmend more?, but those four are my go to’s.

Spinners - I first encountered them at Further back in the late 90s. Very strange was my initial reaction. I attended a good number of concerts in this time frame, but experienced nothing like the Gd scene of course. Over the last several years as I continue digging on this band, attending numerous cover concerts and then D&C this summer, I have garnished new appreciation for spinners. This is all just my opinion, but First, I think it’s important to understand that there are different types of spinners, and that for the most part spinners are really just dancers who are very emotionally involved and enjoying the music on a whole other level. I used to think that this had to be drug induced, but I know better now for certain that it doesn’t have to be. I only know this because as my own listening experiences have intensified, I am not ashamed to admit that I find myself morphing into a spinner of sorts. I have never found a band that gets me emotionally involved like this one does and so I dance and spin at live shows, and in the living room, and sometimes doing yard work. Granted a pocket full of stems and caps can make this experience more fun, but certainly not necessary to achieve a spin or more. I’ve also been very buzzy lately and have not finished my Gorge D&C story, but here is a small sample. On Saturday night at The Gorge (2nd show), my wife and I were on the floor/in the pit, and there was a type of spinner that I had not encountered before. He was spinning in place, straight as a pencil like a figurine ballerina stuck in a jewelry box. Arms were straight on his side without waving around or being raised. His head was down, looking towards the ground, and he appeared to be mumbling something quietly (maybe lyrics?) like Dustin Hoffman in Rainman. The only movement was a slight shift in his feet which allowed the continuous spin. My wife told me later that for a few seconds she put her finger on top of his head, and that he kept spinning away. I have not graduated to this level of spinning, but with good practice, who knows what could happen. I’m reminded of One flew over the Cuckoos Nest!

Dead and Co Tix - someone asked the going rate. I bought 2 on the floor for both upcoming nights at Hampton. I paid $10 extra (180.00 per ticket) for the 3D Collector Tickets, so after Ticket Bastard was done adding their fees it was a little over $200 per ticket. Shhh....I have yet to ask my wife permission. It will be a negotiation which I have a very good chance of losing. If I lose, I figure I can sell them and make my money back.

Today is my daughters 9th birthday party. We have rented a local shelter at a park and will be hosting 40 children for a picnic romp. I will not be tripping, but it may feel like it...pray for me!!!

KCJ

PS—As of last night, according to recent GD email update, less than 1,000 left of the Giants BluRay box set. I pre-ordered the vinyl a couple weeks back, but finally pulled the trigger on the box as well!

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Submitted by darkstarkeith on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 07:05

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I agree. I would totally buy 11/5/79 and 11/6/79 if they were available to download. I don’t see a reason to remove them from dead.net if they are only digital. I wonder if the archive has comparable sound quality to the official releases.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 07:48

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Thats january, not a typo'd 11

Wow. High energy affair.

Excellent show.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 09:59

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NITECAT: nice to see ya! Thanks for the tip. Hopefully I’ll get to that as it sounds like a tech feast for this geek!
SPINNERS 74: now even more intrigued. Curious how, when and where all that began?
JRF68: 1/20/79, my first....curious what you thought?
MUSTIN321: Philly 79. I was at 11/9/79, my biffday, and have thought that was a good show, but think that 11/6/79 show is my favorite from that tour? At end of year I will have to check out the December Oakland shows for 40th anniversary though for better comparison. I recall their awesome, and they seem to get love here, but I haven’t listened to them in quite awhile....
STOLTZY: coming at us with all kinds of good stuff!; 3/23/75, damn, didn’t know that was out, shee-ite. Yet more to covet! I’m with you, one time around and I’d be down! Now, gettin down to the sound of da rubber band man, I’m down with that! Love all that early 70s funk and Soul Jazz. Dove into the soul jazz pretty deep a few years back; Idris Muhammad, the Mighty Burner, Melvin Sparks, Donald Bird, Grover Washington Jr before he went all Kenny G, The “Smith’s” on Organ, Deodato, so much good music!
Some may say nay, but we are the knights that say nit, or Summer 85, fug yeah, bring it!
1/5/79; what’s the sound quality on that one? That whole early 79 era is sorta uncharted space, but being my early times I feel I need to dig into that sometime. But I believe BobT, Boblopes? sorry, senile, one of the Bobs has mentioned there’s not much of this in the vault...
7/4/89; I agree there are some ebbs etc, but this one over the years continues to grow on me. I tried to blow through as much of the 89 summer tour anniversary’s as I could this summer, and to me that one stands out. I think I might like it more than Alpine even, gulp, I know, that’s saying a lot and I’m sure some will have alternative feelings on that LOL. How spoiled are we that we even have so much awesome music to debate over!
8/6/74; been circling around on this one lately. Did an abridged version again last night; Playing>>Scarlet>>Playing, Eyes, UJB, and the whole He’s gone until the end sequence. After finally scoring Dave’s 17 been getting better acquainted with that one. Maybe not as strong overall as some of the previously released 74 stuff, but I’d say that bar is pretty high! Yumm, need more summer 74! Perhaps that 7/25/74 DS etc?
BEER; icremkid, Stoltzy? Whom ever suggested that Bells, Tanks! So far have only been able to get the Two Hearted Ale But man that has been an awesome summer treat. Looking forward to trying some of their other nectar! Been turned on to some great new brewskis this summer; Oscars Can-o-Bliss, both the Hazy and the tropical, and Freemonts Summer Ale, American Pale Ale. I think Freemont May be my new favorite brewery. Anchor will always hold emeritus standing, but I’m not sure I’ve had a Freemont I didn’t like yet. Hearing about Vermont being the new big boy on the Beer block now, but not familiar, YET, with any? Any suggestions out there?
I’ve have one for all y’all: Bonfire Brewing, just a mile into town, many awesome flavors. Fire starter ipa is a good start, personally been big into their WtFO for probably the past year. Damn, this is making me thirsty but I have too much to do! Dooooo!
Have Great Weekend All!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 11:41

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A better concert venue than ski resort.

Behind Boreal is Sugar Bowl which has some really nice terrain.
My favorite is Squaw/Alpine.
Sugar Bowl is second fav in the Tahoe area.

Oroborous,
Bell’s is mighty fine stuff. Hope you can try some other flavors soon.

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Submitted by nitecat on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 14:40

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I was there! Dusty and hot, with plenty quipment issues. Ground was full of weeds and rocks. Guess what? I still had fun!

Hey VGuy.. I was at that show.. I think I posted about it here, so much fun.. what a great venue and a great festival.

Thanks for sharing.. going to pass it on to the buddies I went with.

Otis.. check, if you're out there.. check your email.

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Submitted by eyes43 on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 19:20

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These were being sold not too long ago through Warner Music’s store on amazon. They are no longer available, but I got this email the other day from an online retailer that sells all kinds of band merch called merchbar. They have some of the 30 TATS All Music Edition box sets available. For anyone that missed out on this box set and would like to get at least the music edition, here is the link:
https://www.merchbar.com/rock-alternative/grateful-dead/grateful-dead-3…

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 19:29

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The pigeon is the spinner of the bird world.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 21:29

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Interesting article VGuy, I wasn't really even wondering about this until reading the back and forth between you and Carlo13. I actually have a couple of hops plants growing in my garden in full flower right now, planted them just on a goof, it was like a couple bucks for a piece of root stock so I grabbed a couple and threw them in the garden. They are actually pretty cool, kind of interesting flowers.

Gave the 11/6/77 Broome County show from DaP 25 this afternoon while I had the house to myself, pretty enjoyable show from my point of view. Some flubbed lyrics on FOTM but some cool jamming throughout. The Good Lovin' sounds really similar to the version on Shakedown Street, an album I think is due for another spin.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 23:13

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....in California during the '90's, and heads were selling Sierra Nevada Pale Ales. I was like, " what is that?" Kinda like spinners, my mind's eye was opened.
So, in the end, cheers!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 08/24/2019 - 23:43

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Very interesting. Thanks.

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Submitted by mformica on Sun, 08/25/2019 - 09:19

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Was at all these shows. I didn't think of the 7/12/87 as being an early show. I always considered it as a 3 set show. It just happens to be that the 3rd set was all Bob Dylan songs, with Dylan singing. Its too bad that the 3rd set isn't included in this box set.

But I can't wait to hear it. all over again

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Submitted by Oroborous on Mon, 08/26/2019 - 08:51

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Thanks, I will see if beerman can hook me up with some of that double next time!

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Submitted by Lovemygirl on Mon, 08/26/2019 - 21:41

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...a pretty large box set with many additions ...
I believe it’s gonna be a welcomed boxset fro most fans., I’m in 100% , graditude in a bohemian standing , is that the correct phrase I mean ?! I’m sorry, for my poorly written posts. I’m doing the best I can. I’m trying reall hard to be good and get better. I don’t want to give up I’m a fighter for my well being both physical and. SpiritualY 🙏❤️🤠

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 08/26/2019 - 22:00

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Good to see a post from you

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 08/26/2019 - 22:13

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I jhereby call for some 84 shows for release. A lotta good shows

Such as 5/6/84

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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 07:45

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R.I.P.~Neal Casal
...thanks for the music.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 08:30

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Oroborous- I emailed Lemieux about a year ago to see about the early 1979 tape quality in the Vault. He basically said and I am paraphrasing here) there is really not anything that meets the audio quality benchmark for release. I can't speak for January 5th, but I did download a great audience recording of January 10th, witch has either the last or second to last Godchaux Dark Star. I don't listen to any AUD recordings except this, and I find it incredibly "even" throughout Dark Star (i.e. no fluctuations in volume, patches, flutter, flitter, etc). Like the old Dunkin' Donuts jingle said....."it's worth the trip". That being said, I only downloaded about half of it:

Music Never Stopped
Shakedown Street
I Need a Miracle
Bertha
Good Lovin'
Dark Star
Wharf Rat
St. Stephen
Stagger Lee

Most of that Godchaux era Shakedown Street material in one show (FOTM doesn't really count). From the Heart of Me is not there, though I like it and would have enjoyed it. Shakedown Street is there ! The only official Godchaux release you get of that on is Rocking the Cradle.......unless of course you've bastardized your digital rip of "Road Trips: From Egypt with Love" by including the Estimated => Shakedown from 11/24/78, which fits right in from an "audio and performance sound representation" standpoint). Or I suppose if you were a real jack-hole, you may may have slipped the Rocking the Cradle" Shakedown Street into "The Closing of Winterland" folder in your digital folder - but I haven't done that yet. But you know, they are both multi-tracks releases, and they DID play Shakedown the previous night, and they SHOULD have played it at the Closing.....and so on and so on (by the time you're finished rationalizing it, the Ring really was a birthday present to Gollum).

Dennis - I'm still very interested in the PM you sent, I'm just in a weird place with my internet data rate until I get some things taken care of. Thanks for thinking of me. I'll let you know as soon as I get it.

I am so far behind on posts, I don't think I'm ever getting caught up. Apologies if I owe anyone a response.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 10:12

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Can’t believe he is gone.

He was a guitarist that I was looking forward to seeing for many years into the future.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 10:53

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Thanks for confirming that. I know there is some decent audience tapes from then, and I have heard a decent 1/10/79, but always hoped/wondered that there might be something better in the vault. Alas not to be, which is a bummer since my first is 1/20/79, which I have an Audience copy that sounds decent, but the levels are all over the place.
Anyway, thanks and hopefully you’ll get stuff figured out and will be back regularly entertaining us soon!

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 10:54

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My only real exposure to his music is the bonus material with the Soldier Field 50th box bonus material as played between sets. I listen to that every so often and like it.

I never realized how much he has really contributed to other artists and am surprised he slipped under my radar.

Any recommendations of his stuff to explore?

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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 11:12

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Get well soon ZLMG! Sending good vibes your way.

Listened to the Dylan & the Dead a couple of days back. A box with all if their sets together plus the mass of rehearsal material would make for a pretty substantial sized set. I seem to recall a lot of rehearsal material in circulation that would be lovely to be professionally mastered.

I used to kind of gloss over the Dylan and the Dead CD, but upon recent listening, it's incredibly underrated. I never really sought out this material in my cassette collecting days, but realize I've been missing out on some true Grateful Magic.

Please be true. Would love to see a nice set of The Dead with Dylan.

I caught the '87 Alpine run just prior to the Dylan/Dead stadium run, and those shows were pure magic. Probably among my fondest live Dead experiences. Not quite the massive draw they would become weeks later, but playing at the top of their game for that era. Such a bummer the vault recordings for this run aren't well recorded. This would have been a Holy Grail '87 set. '87 Red Rocks is one they do have and hope to see released.

I'm pretty stoked for this Giants box. The preview material is awesome. The artwork in the promos look similar to the style of the last May '77 box.

Don't know about you guys but 8/27/72 is my Dead show 3 hour hike music for the day.

Have a good one.

Ooh before I forget, someone mentioned Road Trips '79 Spectrum downloads. I too wish those were made available again. Missed out on that too. Would love to have.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 11:50

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Thank you for posting this link. I had a chance to listen to a good chunk of it. Very interesting. Sounds like Norman keeps digital copies of all the projects he works on in 24 bit/192. Got me thinking how great it would be to see some of these items released in Multi-channel formats like SACD or DVD Audio. That would be really sweet!
Also got me thinking based on this interview that the entire Vault had not been digitized yet. You would think this would be a big priority for them. I would volunteer to help them out with that project.
Have they ever disclosed how many shows they have in the Vault?

Spacebrother, I was at Alpine in 87 as well, awesome time. We had a small camper with four guys. Parked in the lot for the duration and of course had the time of our lives. The 87 crowd was so different than the 86 crowd we saw the year before. I think the drought was 88, remember that run?

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 12:19

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Neal was the guitar player in Chris Robinson Brotherhood and there are a lot of CRB show recordings on their website.

Neal was also in Hard Working Americans, which I think was better than CRB.
Check out the CD/DVD “First Waltz”.

Also, Circles Around The Sun started playing live shows, some of which are on YouTube. They also put out a second album.

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Submitted by daverock on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 14:27

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Very sorry and surprised to read of his passing. I was lucky enough to see the Chris Robinson Brotherhood in London in 2015.

My favourite CRB recording is the live Betty's Blends volume 2, also from 2015. Features They Love Each Other, and a great opening Vibration and Light Suite.

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 19:08

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I know i over plug 11/20/78 Cleveland Music Hall Set II, way too much.... But if you get a chance, I always had an audience version, listen to Music Never Stopped to Aiko!!! Especially the audience tape.... Scarlet>Fire to open second set.....Estimated into He's Gone and a Drums with Garcia on steel drums!!!!

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Submitted by Gratefulhan on Tue, 08/27/2019 - 19:13

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It is sad to hear about Neal Casal. I was only familiar with his work on Circles Around the Sun. Man life is short and it can end suddenly. You never know...

Talking about 1984 shows I recently got into 6/27/84 Merryweather. It's a solid show, well played and with a great setlist. I haven't had much exposure 84 shows so I was happy with what I heard. I need to listen to more from that year.

1/10/79 is a great show. I downloaded it from the Archive years ago. It's a bummer it is not in th vault but the audience source I have isn't bad. Now the Dark Star is pretty good for the era and there is also a St. Stephen in the 2nd set to. I am fairly positive this is the last time both of these songs were played in the same show. However the rest of the show is really good to. I haven't listened to it in a while but i recall Shakedown and Music Never Stopped being exceptional.

....there is a very nice Matrix of that show out there.
Regarding Casal. I really don't get it. He looked so happy this last weekend at Lockin'. I'm not a psychiatrist but I have a nice couch.
Boggles my mind.
The build up tuning into Mexicali at the RPI field house in the stuff I crave

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