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    Hold on to your hat, we're coming in strong with one from the Windy City that'll have you movin' and shakin' from start to finish. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 signals a true rebirth of the Grateful Dead, reimagining classics and foreshadowing their 80s sound. This is as much in part due to freshly-minted member Brent Mydland bringing the organ back in as it is to Jerry finding new vivacity with his custom Wolf guitar. New guy, new guitar - it all makes for a heck of a good time!

    Set One rolls like never-ending thunder with one standout after another - truly epic versions of "Brown-Eyed Women," "Ramble On Rose," "It's All Over Now," "Althea," and "The Music Never Stopped." Set Two hits with a crack of not-so-lazy lightning, barreling through an outrageous 28-minute "Scarlet>Fire" to a unique “Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance” and wrapping with a "blow the roof off the place" version of "Truckin'" and a rippin' "Johnny B. Goode." Ready for some quiet after the storm? You'll have to wait a just a little bit longer - we've filled in the gap on Disc 3 with a sprinkle of 12/4/79 - "Estimated>Franklin's Tower>" and an incredibly improvised “Jam.”

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 has been mastered from Dan Healy's cassette recordings to HDCD specs by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering.

    GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

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    a completely different subject

    movies

    saw Rocketman in theater
    loved it

    we happened to start up the recent "A Star is Born" with Lady Gaga on cable last night

    we stuck it out, but what a bland, slow, overly-long cliched flick. You couldn't understand a word the lead guy and Sam Shepard were saying. Low Talkers (Seinfeld reference) and gravelly. "uuhhhh muhh muhhhhhh..." "I want to sing my songs!" says Lady Gaga. "huhhhhyhuhhh...duuuhhhhhhuhhhuhhhh..."

    SPEAK UP, MOFO.

    On the bright side, you do get a few fleeting glimpses of LG in the altogether...no complaints on THAT.

  • stoltzfus
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    thought i was cool
    tried chewing tobacco in 9th grade
    vomitorium

    tried smoking it
    ew
    coughitorium

    tried clove cigarettes
    blechitorium

    tried pot
    :)))

    I can assure you
    having smoked cannabis pretty regularly since I was 18
    it is not addictive (lol)

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  • unkle sam
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    when I was in the military, cigarettes cost .25 cents a pack, 2.50 a carton with no tax. When I first started smoking they were 35 cents a pack in the machines, that anyone could access, including 12 year old kids like me. The term smoke 'em if you got em' I think originated in the military, at least that's where I first heard it. In basic training "boot camp" you were not allowed to smoke, at all, so you went cold turkey. Then, after about 6 weeks, they would light the smoking lamp, and we would get to smoke. The first time I heard that term was then, Drill sergeant says, "smoke em if you got em, the smoking lamp is lit". I had no idea what a "smoking lamp" was but I soon found out it meant time to light up and it was a mad dash for the door to find one and get one lit. They were nasty and mean about it, gave you about 3 minutes to get a cig, run outside, light it and try and get a hit before they ran you back inside again. That was the first time I ever got a "buzz" from cigarettes. We hot boxed those things, due to withdrawal and desire and actually got off, dizzy more than anything, so running back into the barracks was not as easy as it sounds, a lot of staggering and falling down for some, or hands on knees with head down until the dizzies went away. If you were late, you got to run off that cigarette on the drill field for about an hour or so. I should have quit then, but I didn't want to, if you don't want to quit them, you never will, you must have the will to say no more, and mean it. Or you can wait till you can't breath anymore, that is also a good deterrent to smoking. Yes, disgusting, filthy, stinking unacceptable now days habit, and yet, they are legal to purchase at any convenience store. Weed is much better for you but it isn't very good for your lungs either, but who smokes 2 or 3 packs of joints a day? not even Tommy Chong I bet. (I could be wrong about that :) )

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    Worse thing EVER!

    Like Led said, pretty much did everything but only regret the cancer sticks.....funny thing is, I didn’t really start until I was 28, Living with that 20 year old I told ya about....she did.....sure I used to have one out at a bar once in a great while but I was not a cough, cough, “tabacoo” user until then. Started part time, would buy the roll your own, you know occasionally rolling one up, then when I went back to college, since you had to now go outside, I didn’t have time to walk out there, spin one up, smoke, and then make to next class etc......so I start buying generic, like buck a pack thinking “yea, the way I occasionally smoke a pack will last me forever......cue the dark, evil, insidious music!
    So of course once you have em in your pocket and all ya have to do is spark one up.........add to that everyone around me then smoked so of course I became addicted. The thing is, I could quit pretty easy, luckily, I was fortunate to be able to do this with a lot of things.....once I made up my mind I’d just ween myself off and make sure I wouldn’t be around “whatever” and the people and most importantly the triggers etc....Tabacoo was always the hardest, but I was never a heavy smoker unless up parting all night, usually less than a pack a day. Loved the Camel wides, but got into all the boutique shit when I moved to CO where they have those smoke shops....
    Anyways would go back and forth quitting, and getting readdicted over and over thinking I could “part time” it.
    Then I started to smoke a pipe for a while because I thought that way I wouldn’t smoke as much, you know, part time.....then tried same with cigars etc, tried it all, but always would end up fully addicted. Finally after about 15 years while I was playing music for a living I got the notion that I’d just bye the Banjo player a pack now and then and just have him feed me a few during gigs, and not have any at home or around me etc. That’s the thing about playing; there’s often a lot of anxious waiting around to play etc, so smoking really helped that. Well of course that “part time” trick didn’t work either. So finally, about fifteen years ago I finally realized, just like twelve step “I’m an addict”, I’m addicted to nicotine and it’s either all or nothing, there is no part time! Once I fully realized that, it was the end of the season at work, so I knew I’d not be around anyone for a month or so, plus I was getting a respitory bug so I knew I wouldn’t want to for a few days anyway, so that cave me the perfect opportunity to quit yet again. This time though, armed with my new found realization there was no way I was going to tell myself I can part time it, you know “I can control this”........no, your an addict, so no you can’t etc.......that was how I finally gave the nasty shit up and have never ever wanted one again. Luckily, once enough time goes by your body starts to change and triggers like smelling it where you used to get enticed, eventually you realize just how nasty the shit smells, and it becomes a turn off etc and you feel so much better. Interesting, in 1984 when I gave up meat the same thing happened; instead of getting all salivating and hungry when someone was cooking meat, it started to smell like nasty searing flesh. This doesn’t bother me so much now, perhaps because I do eat the dirty bird now, but years ago I’d have to leave the room....
    Supposedly your lungs can heal a bit, but I’m worried that between the years I did smoke, and all the second hand exsposure, and all the shitty work environments I’ve been in, I’m going to be fucked....my old man smoked around us, not all over the house but down in his workshop, all the bars, and places I lived, hell people smoked on planes back in the day, everywhere! Ridiculous! The biggest tell is when you visit friends who still smoke in thier houses and as soon as you walk in it’s overwhelming. You feel so bad because it’s awful, but it’s your peeps so what do you do? I try to make it so we have to go out somewhere to meet up just so I don’t have to deal with that. Now I’m not some reformed nazi, I’m from the ilk that you do what you want as long as it doesn’t hurt others, like “jumping off that balcony” ,you want to drive with no seat belt, or not wear a helmet, or smoke, that’s your choice.
    It’s just personally I can’t take it anymore, it makes me ill......plus you have to go through theconstant waiting around factor like Led said and it’s just a drag.....listen to this for a humorous take on all that....

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LyYLrVNKE68

    The worst is these kids that are getting addicted by all this vape shit. It’s such a shame after so many years of dramatic Tabacoo decline that the numbers are going back up among kids. Please, don’t mean to preach, but don’t do it chilrens!! Just ask my old man; started when basically a child, finally quit in his sixties, but ended up with Lung Cancer about four years ago. Luckily he has always gotten a yearly chest ex ray since he worked in a steel plant for forty years, so they caught it early. Thought they got it with radiation, but unfortunately a year later it had spread to hip and Adrenal gland......got the hip with radiation, but the adrenal tumor is never going away. The only reason he’s still alive is because of some new drug that works with his immune system to “maintain” the tumor. At his age they won’t remove the gland, and chemo, at the small doses he could take, wasn’t going to do it, so he was fortunate that he qualified for this drug which has worked miracles.
    Please, if your even thinking about smoking, or need some help quitting, just go sit in the lobby of the chemo ward at your local cancer center for just an hour or two, if that doesn’t do the trick......trust me, it’s eye opening!!
    Sorry to go on, but it’s something pretty heavy that we deal with everyday so if I can get even one person to quit, or more importantly, never start,.....well, sorry, thanks for letting me vent.......
    Now please back to our collective “waiting on a miracle”........dammit Dave, it’s a good thing I don’t smoke anymore or this anticipation stress would make me a human chimney!

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    As mentioned here before, it is now a Honda dealership; if you go in there and shop for a car(or pretend to), ask to be taken upstairs to where the ballroom was, you can check all the ghosts...

  • Cousins Of The…
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    Thanks for the Moore/Perkins recommendation...listening to their 1954 recording, great stuff!
    Now we need a Cats & the Fiddle w/Tiny Grimes box...

  • Dennis
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    Filthy fucking habit.

    My father smoked, he was a non filtered camel fan. He complained about cost and said when the got to .50 cent a pack he was done, just wasn't going to pay that for a pack of butts. They hit 50 and he quit, period!

    Fast forward and during a divorce I started smoking at 23. Smoked into my 50's. On and off at the end. Everytime I quit I used patches. I'd wear the big one for maybe 30 days and be smoking at first while wearing it. I started paring them down until I quit. Everytime I went back it was a stupid decision. Thought I'd have one,,,,wrong. Been off the nicotine about 7 years, maybe 8. Lungs may not get better, but at least I don't have the expense or cough up black shit while in the shower! Now I know I can NEVER have one,,, I won't even do wraps from tobacco products, too afraid I'll start again.

    Worst habit EVER!

  • Dennis
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    Thanks for the heads up. I real big fan of Nat. Guess I'll get this in November. It was nice to see the page talk about his piano playing. I heard someone years ago on a Jazz station talking about King and he was saying about how everyone raves about the singer, but forget he was voted (downbeat?) piano player of the year 3 or 4 years in a row.

    To anyone interested, pick up his "after midnight sessions" album, very, very, very nice! (do 3 very's make it primo? :-) )

    Really great album, let me know and I'll get you a copy.

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    If the Meet Up Movie 6/17/91 is in the box they can't announce the box before movie night or a lot of people would skip the movies and wait to watch it at home.

    Traffic lights,Buses,Taxis,Crosswalks,Fire hydrants, Oh My!

  • daverock
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    I smoked dope before I smoked cigarettes. During my teens I would eat it, or smoke it in a pipe, but the culture in England at that time-mid 1970s - was to smoke cannabis with tobacco in a joint. Inevitably, this was what I started doing, and after a year or so, by the age of about 23, I graduated to the hard stuff...pre rolled, non enhanced packets of 20 cigarettes. I didn't stop until I was 51-I am now 62.
    The daftest thing I ever did was pour water on the remaining few in a packet...and then wake up in the night and try to dry them out in the cooker so I could have one last smoke. Smoking with a nicotine patch on my arm wasn't too clever, either!

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Hold on to your hat, we're coming in strong with one from the Windy City that'll have you movin' and shakin' from start to finish. DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 signals a true rebirth of the Grateful Dead, reimagining classics and foreshadowing their 80s sound. This is as much in part due to freshly-minted member Brent Mydland bringing the organ back in as it is to Jerry finding new vivacity with his custom Wolf guitar. New guy, new guitar - it all makes for a heck of a good time!

Set One rolls like never-ending thunder with one standout after another - truly epic versions of "Brown-Eyed Women," "Ramble On Rose," "It's All Over Now," "Althea," and "The Music Never Stopped." Set Two hits with a crack of not-so-lazy lightning, barreling through an outrageous 28-minute "Scarlet>Fire" to a unique “Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance” and wrapping with a "blow the roof off the place" version of "Truckin'" and a rippin' "Johnny B. Goode." Ready for some quiet after the storm? You'll have to wait a just a little bit longer - we've filled in the gap on Disc 3 with a sprinkle of 12/4/79 - "Estimated>Franklin's Tower>" and an incredibly improvised “Jam.”

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 31: UPTOWN THEATRE, CHICAGO, IL 12/3/79 has been mastered from Dan Healy's cassette recordings to HDCD specs by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering.

GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

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I found two sets in my collection today , one sealed and the other one is opened, mint condition. I played the entire set and the Bonus Disc. Pretty sweet concert that I attended and released from the vault., I’m thinking that’s why I have two , I can’t remember. I enjoyed the Dark Star and playing in the band performances on this release. Let it Grow is some primo stuff!the two MSG Jams are a nice segment of the concert. And the foolish heart on the Bonus cd Is beautiful to say the least! 🙏❤️😎
The Dead performed 52 times at the garden. Another great box set that would make. 🙏❤️😎💀
If anyone needs or looking for a copy ,
send me a pm. I’m getting ready for the box set ! Ha

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please send me a PM so we can get this straightened out. SO sorry.
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I got this for Xmas a couple of years ago. It is hard to beat 6 shows for less then $30.
Disc 3 of DaP27 is from one of these shows. Still, this is an awesome buy

Rock on

The morality of buying these is a personal decision. On the one hand they are legal in Europe due to their different views and laws on copyright. On the other the Dead get no royalties.
No country believes the writer, artest etc has eternal rights to the material, although thanks to the RIAA the US has by far the strongest laws. An excellent but somewhat dated book on the subject is BOOTLEG! by Clinton Heylin written in the 90's.
As to the current plethora of releases by a lot of favorite artists of many of the posters here , they are unmitigated trash. I've bought a few from CJ&Fish to the Dead to Canned Heat. The yellow box is a fair boot, Canned Heat in Boston is also a fair post Alan Wilson boot possibly worth getting since it's a 21/2 hour show of ok quality. The CJ&F isn't worth wasting your money on it is terrible quality.
For me it's not likely I'll buy anymore. Especially the Dead. Why bother we get massive amounts of great quality releases. If it's an important enough show it will come out and you can be positive the quality from WB/RHINO/DEAD will be eons better.
As for the theory and morality Heylin's book really gives a good look at just what copyright and the reasons behind it are. Worth the time.

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Thank you for the feedback. I don’t buy bootlegs, or support them. But this was a gift, so it will remain party of my collection. Love 71 Dead!
The last boot I bought was at a concert I attended for the dead, it’s called Jerry Garcia prison blues cd or something for like ten dollars a long long time again. It sits next to the Pigpen apartment recordings cd also o boot but I love that cd as well, get me my shoot gun or something like that. 🙏❤️😎🤠💀. Jerry on acoustic guitar And a bass player I believe, I actually love that cd of music, some primo Jerry playing with soul.

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Had a great time listening to disc one a few weeks back--there's some very unique Garcia sounds/licks going on in set one. Then I finally had the chance a few nights ago to kick back with disc two. Whoa. Total mind melt. To this Head's ears, this is one fantastic Pick. The gang was trying some really cool stuff in December of 1979, as evidenced by this pick, Dick's Vol. 5, and Road Trips 3.1.

Great pick, Dave!

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Hahaha... Just to tie up the loose ends, I just received a credit note from UPS that matches the amount on the invoice I received from them many weeks ago and never paid. Case closed?

As I mentioned I rarely if ever buy them now, but it is an interesting story to me, the history theory of copyright ( not nearly as straightforward as the RIAA would have you believe).
The golden age was the 90's because Europe had vastly different laws and there were a number of reputable companies. By that I mean they sought out high quantity shows and paid mechanical royalties. The record companies hated them ( and eventually paid off congress to make the laws significantly more draconian and entrap perfectly legitimate companies).
Musicians never saw the money because the big US companies put the checks in their pockets and did not pass on the money.
If you saw a release by Kiss The Stone, Coliseum, Swinging Pig you could buy with confidence that it was top quality and the royalties had been paid. I have that Jerry / John Kahn acoustic show from Oregon State Prison. Even better I have the full 1hr & 40 min show of Neil's 1st Auston City Limit Show. Done in 1984 during his F U David Geffen county period.
Anyway it's an interesting subject to me and the book is great. You do recognize the author's name?

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, thank you again for some feed back. I like the history as well, never read the book but the authors name sounds familiar. Swinging pigs been around going back a long time. I remember . Some doors titles, the Matrix recordings and such.. I never heard the other recordings you mentioned, sounds interesting, how’s the Audio Quality and what are the sources of the recording? 🙏❤️🤠 love me some 1984 era Jerry and the gang.
Thank you again my brother. Have a blessed grateful day and holiday weekend my friend and to all you other beautiful people hear, god bless and smile smile smile, love is all that matters, long live the Grateful Dead ,! Rock on my brothers & sisters 🙏❤️😎💀🌹
Also happy to read 30 is finding its way home to those who have been waiting for some time now. I agree primo dec 1979 performances for this dead heads liking, I love Pick 31 tremendously 🙏❤️😎 1979 was a grateful year for the dead in my minds of performance style and unity between band mates like Jerry and my man Brent , play it loud ! 😚💨🙃🤭😉

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The funny thing is although I bought over 400 boots in the 90's I have very few Jerry or Dead since I had so much on tape. You're right Swinging Pig goes back virtually to the beginning around 69 or 70. I have about 50 KTS ( Kiss The Stone) releases. If you seethat name you can buy with confidence. I have better than 50 Hendrix shows but be careful some are great many are fair. As I said I don't really buy them anymore. As for Jerry they seem to be picking up the pace plus reissuing the live Jerry release series although for some reason the Pure Jerry series doesn't seem to be getting the same treatment. Check out ebay. I know some posters hate them but to me if something is important enough it's the place to go. Luckily for me I'm a collector which means I've bought everything Dead and related including bonus they've ever put out. If you have something specific in mind pm me. Although I'm in Thailand for a while now

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That new Tool album is such a masterpiece. It's still listed under the metal genre, but really is so much more. Thoughtful... hypnotic... weirdly dark and heavy. Brilliant. It's gotten me back into the whole catalog and just kind of elevates everything. Can't wait to see them this October... also got Uli Jon Roth tickets yesterday!

No morality issues here whatsoever with boots. I'll buy without thinking twice, what with bigger problems going on in the world. It comes up regularly, but yes that yellow 1971 is a bargain and some great listening.

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. I’m a music collector as well. I did buy my share of boots in my younger days, like mentioned the 90s was the golden age of a plethora of boots made available from many different bands. I think music lovers & boots are apart of the whole scene .Some good, some great and a whole lot of garbage too if you didn’t know where to look or what to look for like swing pigs or kTS for example. I have some lp boots as well being a record collector for over 40 years. Some primo stuff, pretty rare pressings. I had a sweet Jimi Hendrix lp I sent to Daverock, maybe he can share his thoughts about the Hendrix lp, really early Jimi if I remember. Correctly . 🙏❤️🤠
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Ah, yes . . . I went to the record shows in the early 90s and purchased way too many overpriced bootleg CDs, too! One of my first purchases was Cornell on three discs for $75(!). I think I was making about $8/hour working part-time in college at the time. But I could not break into the tape trading circle, so I thought that maybe by having a great copy of Cornell (which I had heard was a classic, but had never HEARD) I could use that to get my foot in the door. Never happened, but I ended up paying $75 for three or four discs of Veneta, and some other GD, Dylan, Springsteen, SRV, Hendrix, Beefheart, Little Feat, Steely Dan, Miles, Sonny Rollins . . .

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I got that 3 cd boot, too. I think it was on a label called Silver Rarities, and it sounded alright. I still have a few in rotation-10/29/77, which is also alright, and 3/1/69, which is no great shakes-but will do until the official release comes out.

I let one of my favourites slip through my fingers in the 70s, on vinyl. It was the final date of David Bowies 1973 tour, when he announced he was retiring. It was notable because it featured Jeff Beck jamming on Jean Genie. When the official release came out, Jeff refused to consent to his performance being included. Shame as he lit a bomb under it (as I remember) as you might expect. And I sold it.

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, I really enjoyed this release with a fresh perspective and set of ears. Beautiful mix by Norman and the band playing within each other as a unity is pretty tight, I loved it all. Over again. As layer night fall of diamonds earlier this

https://m.youtube.com/wat https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=_G5HH3cgsso ch?v=tPxNc34tUpI
peaceful day in August! 🙏❤️😎 rock on my friends ! God bless!
https://youtu.be/_G5HH3cgsso
Bob Dylan & Jerry Garcia
– “Let’s Keep It Between Us”
Warfield, San Francisco,
November 16th 1980

Asl!!!! https://m.youtube.com/wat https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=_G5HH3cgsso ch?v=tPxNc34tUpI

Serve Somebody 0:00
I Believe In You 5:10
Like A Rolling Stone 9:50
Man Gave Names To All The Animals 15:39
Ramona* 21:19
Can We Keep It Between Us* 26:38
Convenant Woman* 31:03
Senor* 37:30
Simple Twist Of Fate* 41:54
The Groom’s Still Waiting At The Altar* 46:40

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Sorry to bring this up again, but has this situation been resolved? I've been emailing Dr. Rhino with no response so far. Still have a UPS invoice lingering out there as far as I can tell for delivery to Canada.
Thank you.

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Surely no need to apologise for bringing this up. It should continue to be a current thread until everyone who ordered a copy has got one. Then we can anticipate future releases with a clear conscience.

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No apologies needed I concur !
Never mind what you may have heard or read so far but, This years delivery options were the Niña, Pinta, and The Santa Maria.Lol, Old school! Due too changing of warehouselocations with suppliers inventory.Wishing a speedy & safe. Voyage home to everyone who is still waiting for this primo Dave’s picks release 1979 number 31! Have a grateful day my brothers and sisters! 🙏
❤️😎💀🌹 Ps / Christopher Columbus set sail on August 3, 1492 across the ocean Blue.... my birthday! 🙏❤️😉💀🌹
I’m listening to View from the vault, volume 3, this morning and I’m going to follow it up with volume number 1 that this afternoon. It’s one of those days! 🙃 some primo 1987 to get the old blood flowing again. I dig these two releases pretty much, while waiting for the boxset to land in a few short weeks, oh yeah , it’s time to smile smile smile, let the good ol dead steal your face right off your heads beautiful people! Rock on!

ps I forgot who mentioned the new tool album released August 31! Wow, completely sold out and prices for resale remind me of the dead’s daves Picks and the out of stock Boxsets forsale online. sellers and recent buyers baying lots of bread for this $49 album release , also limited editions as well . 13 years in the making so to say. Pretty impressive folks, in my. Opinion .

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First listen to DaP 31 I was pretty disappointed. It just sounded weak. I think it does have a slightly muffled audio quality, but it varies throughout.

Second and subsequent listens reveal lots of great stuff, however. The Brown-Eyed is gorgeous, with four solo turns. And the Jackaroe at the slower tempo just bubbles along. Whenever I hear these slower Jackaroes I expect to hear John Travolta come in with, "I got chills, they're multiplyin'."

Scarlet/Fire is terrific. The Terrapin is pretty bad. Garcia sounds like he'd rather be anywhere else. But he does take two go-rounds in the solo break, very uncommon, and the second one is very different. The jam in Playing is interesting when Brent is using a wobbly sound on his B-3, almost sounds a little like Pink Floyd here. Big ending in Truckin' is fun stuff. Bonus tracks are excellent.

So there is stuff here that's worth going back to. I'll definitely keep listening and hopefully find more great stuff.

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Enjoyed some 1987 era Dead music, from the very fine view from the vault volume 4 , 0ackland 24, 26 87 performances, lovd it all over again 🙏❤️😎

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After a few emails with UPS, they informed me that my copy was returned to Rhino before it even left the States. According to tracking info, it barely made it out of the warehouse. It was returned under a different tracking number, however, hence why it seems to be lingering in purgatory.

Someone at dead.net informed me that replacements would be sent in a couple weeks. Which seems pretty stupid, since the original package was returned to Rhino. Why not just send the original that was returned? Anyway, I'm guessing your copy of DaP 31 is taking a similar route to mine.

So, no, nothing has been resolved. Let's keep praying. I've already got lots of fine GD to keep me occupied for the time being.

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Greetings my brothers & sisters, hope all are well. I listened to the entire warlock boxset of two days, man oh man , I love this release and boxset! Norman did an excelent job on these mixes, wow, my mind had been blown opened and wide for these shows. Beautiful recorded as well! Primo! I found an extra box for sale in a used record store near my home. Just the box itself , no music inside for$ 25, I bought it and use it for one of my stash box’s at home. My opened set in mint sits with my other box sets from the dead with everything included in the release! I did backflips when this was first released and found lots of love contained in the music, production and overt unity to hear these performances from the dead’s magnificent vault! 🙏❤️😎, have a grateful day and weekend my friends and even to my old friend whom I’ve seemed to have lost :(, god bless everyone!
Today, I’m going to be trucking back up to buffalo again soon ;) lol 🙏❤️💀🌹😚💨 Fock on ! .

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Enough is enough! 

It really is time that someone took Rhino to task for the unforgivable manner in which they have handled the dispatch of DP 31, particularly to their many customers in Europe.

I know that some European customers have now received their copies but many are still waiting, with no idea when their wait is likely to end, thanks to the complete absence of any information/help from Rhino.

Rhino have displayed staggering levels of incompetence throughout this sorry saga - who, in their right minds, would have decided to use UPS to deliver their overseas orders and NOT expect heavy surcharges to be imposed? This practice is in the very DNA of companies such as UPS & FedEx and anyone who has any knowledge in this field must surely have known that. It is reasonable to assume that the people behind Dave's Picks possess such knowledge (given their business base) and yet they appear to have been taken wholly by surprise when the European problem first reared its head.

It shouldn't have happened but it did and so what are Rhino doing to put things right?

So far as I am concerned, they are doing absolutely nothing.

I am advised to contact Dr.Rhino with my problem - before I go any further, what is this 'Dr.Rhino' nonsense? Let us have a real person's name so that someone can at least be held vaguely accountable for this shambles.

If you are going to hide behind a cloak of anonymity though, do not plead a heavy workload when you are swamped with emails from unhappy customers who are victims of a mess entirely created by YOU!

If you promise to answer emails within "5 business days", the very least you can do is deliver on that promise; I have sent a batch of emails over the last few weeks to the 'good doctor' detailing my situation and requesting assistance; I have not received a single reply.

If you genuinely are swamped with queries from unhappy customers, do something about it and recruit help but, whatever you do, it is YOUR problem, do NOT make it your customer's problem!

I have not had much help from UPS but then I didn't expect any; however, I recently found out that my copy of DP31 was 'returned to sender' on August 7 (!!) which simply beggars belief.

Not only are Rhino ignoring my requests for assistance, it transpires that they have had my order in their possession for more than four weeks and done absolutely nothing to return it to me, despite their assurances in an email (dated 8/8) that all would be well and they would do this and they would do that to get my order to me ... empty words so far as I am concerned but I judge people by their actions, not their words and, on that score, Rhino's performance has been utterly abject.

In a sane and rational world, heads would (and should) roll for this unholy mess and Rhino should expect to see a significant hit to their bottom line but neither of these things will happen because a) Rhino clearly couldn't care less about accountability to its customers and b) those same customers will put up with any amount of inconvenience because there is no alternative source of supply for the product under discussion.

Given that I have such little faith in Rhino, why have I gone to these lengths to express my discontent, I hear you ask.

I have done it to externalise my anger for one thing (like many of you, I have spent many hundreds/thousands of pounds on Dead-related material over the years and this is how I am to be treated?) but I've also done it in the hope that there may be someone reading this forum, from Rhino, who has some appreciation of the importance of good customer relations (not to mention a conscience) and may be motivated to do something that none of their colleagues appear willing to do and that is provide some help ... and ultimately, my copy of DP31!

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*Sorry to hear your troubles brother. Did you try reaching out to Mary for help on this board?
I beilive she will help you recieve your Daves Pick 31 you burchasef and havenot recived your copy till this very day. God bless my friend. I feel good news will be coming your way shortly, Peace be with you my friend. 🙏❤️😎💀🌹

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....I’m hoping everyone is having a grateful weekend so far! I’ve been playing the Dead’s ‘ movie soundtrack , 5 Disc/mini boxset. Since late last night into this morning. I’ve made it to the second disc so far. I head to restart disc one from the beginning when it ended because I wanted to feel that burst of energy and beauty all over again. Asince ive lost my sight , my other senses are on overdrive! It’s just human nature. Well I should write , All Living things! nature of survival
These performances sound primo with even all the Audio difficulties in vault recordings used to produce this release.
I love hearing shows that I haven’t heard in a long while. I always find something new to blow my mind & soul. Rock on my brothers and sisters! Peace be with you all, god bless. 🙏❤️😎💀🌹

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Please send me a PM with the details. Thanks and so sorry for the trouble.
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#18812 arrived today at the Isle Of Fehmarn in Northern Germany
On August 23 I've send a mail to Dr. Rhino and asked for a replacement due to the well known trouble with UPS.
On September 4 I got a mail that my replacement has been shipped via DHL. Some minutes ago DHL knocked on my door with the package in his hand.
Thanks to Dr. Rhino for his helping hand.
And all the others in Europe who are still waiting I hope that they will get their copy soon.
Gar-see-ya
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Good to hear that the replacement copies have shipped, and seemingly efficiently this time. I was lucky enough to eventually receive my original copy late in August, but I am well aware that there are punters whose original copy shall never reach them. You gotta feel for those folks who have been waiting for more than a month now with nothing to do but jump through hoops to try and get things sorted.

Apparently I'm not a robot and I don't even have to prove it.

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Well looks like I won't be getting a copy of Daves 31, even though I'm a subscriber. Dead.net gave me a refund, which is nice, but what I really wanted was the CD. Apparently shipping one to me is just not possible? Pretty disappointing. And I am in the US, so I really don't understand what happened here.

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It's been a long strange trip, but I've finally got my hands on DaP 31. DHL is pretty unreliable in these parts, so I was a bit worried to receive an email from Dr. Rhino saying that a replacement copy is on its way. But I guess no need to worry, as it's here and I'm happy.

And by far the lowest number I've ever received! I wonder if this is a result of making up so many replacement copies - did they just start counting again at 1? How did they number the replacements? Not that I care about numbering or limited editions - just curious how they did it. Anyone else get a replacement with oddly low numbers?

Hicks was denied a DaP31 and given a refund?
You know there are extra DaP 31’s sitting around at Rhino, Shaggy just got one, and it was numbered.
Unnumbered ones have been reported to have been received as replacements during past releases.

Hicks,
You should PM Marye.

They weren’t kidding when they said they were switching warehouses and everyone was on their own.

We are on our own.
On our own.

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Thankfully I received DaP31 last month in Canada with no major delay. Unfortunately, UPS then sent me an import invoice for $90. Today I received another invoice from UPS for a late fee. Not sure what to do as I've emailed Dr. Rhino a few times with no response and I can only imagine what kind of rabbit hole I'll fall down if I call UPS Canada to see if they can figure it out. I'll try anyways. I feel like Jerry would have appreciated the Kafka-esque absurdity of this bureaucratic tangle with folks the world over working together to figure out how to get the music to the people. To be continued...

Well what do you know, I got a shipping confirmation e-mail yesterday afternoon and unlike the one I got back in July, the tracking number is active this time. Woo hoo! Don't want to count my chicks just yet, but I'm glad that it looks like it is finally on the way to me.

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Hicks please keep us posted. As well, others that are still waiting please keep us up to date. Rambly, make sure to keep us posted as to what UPS says! Unfortunately to them it's more about the money than the music...What a mess!

P.S. My screen is small. Is that a hydrant or a tree? :-P

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Cool to know that you didn’t get shut out Hicks!
Hard to know what kind of organization exists during the transition to the new warehouse.
I finally got around to ordering last years Pacific Northwest box in July. After three weeks, and my card being charged, I didn’t receive the box, so I called customer service. They gave me a ticket number, escalated it to the warehouse, and told me that someone would contact me. The next day they canceled my order and refunded my CC.
So the next day I reordered the set, and now I’ve been waiting an additional twenty days for that order. Called customer service yesterday and was told the same thing. This time I told them NOT to cancel the order!
Usually the folks on the other end try to make things right, but the warehouse transition, the latest Dave’s Picks Europe fiasco, the new Giants box, and fulfilling the Woodstock box orders must be overwhelming. I’m just hoping I didn’t initiate another false cancellation request!
But they told me yesterday that things were still shipping daily! We’ll see!
Good luck!

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Giants boxset artwork is beautiful, bella! I love it, great art production Team, Primo! 🙏❤️😎💀🌹

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Thanks for advices! Today I recieved a letter with a reminders fee so I called UPS and asked about it. The woman who answered said she knew about the problem and that she was going to reverse the invoice and that I could tear the letter with the reminders fee.

I really thought the whole matter had already been taking care of since I wrote Dr Rhino about the matter a month ago with the tracking number and everything. The woman in the phone said no, they havent recived any information from the sender about my invoice. The reason I thought that was I havent recieved any answer from Dr Rhino. I think that is kind of lame but now it doensn't matter since the problem's solved. :-)

Simonrob:
Well, I think being locked up for a while would be okey if we are talking a box set with what is still in the vault of bits and pieces from fall 1966 to new years eve 1968. All in as best quality as possible! :-D

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I've long lamented all the whining about shipping issues, disc fails, etc., and you know what?

I finally got screwed. My Dave's Picks #31 is a nice low number, 5093/20000. But it isn't much good that disc #2 begins skipping and becomes unplayable halfway through.

I have filled out the help form twice - once in early August, once a month later. Nothing back, crickets. All I'm asking for is a disc two replacement.

I paid for the annual subscription last winter - gave them the date paid, PayPal transaction #, everything. Only thing I don't have is my ORDER NUMBER (where the hell would I find that?) Not sure if that's why they've been blowing me off, but I will get to the bottom of this eventually.

I'm not losing any sleep over this, but now I understand people's disappointment in total shit customer service.

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.... good day my brothers & sisters, hope all is well with everyone.
I’ve seen a lot of post about favorite releases.
Does any one have a favorite record LP Dead released?
My favorite to date, all released Dead LPs over the years? 1967 Shrine Release. Love it! Beautiful sound Record - Live Dead at its finest in my Deadhead world! Have a grateful Sunday folks, god bless!🙏❤️😎🌹💀
For pure sound primo mix @ mastering.

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I think your order number should be in the email you received when you purchased the subscription. So, if you still have the email you ought to be able to find it there.

I hope this helps. Have a grateful day everyone! :-)

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Six emails, two forum posts, a few PMs to marye and I got my Daves 31 delivered yesterday, #4429/20000! I'm thankful to have it, but that does seem like quite a bit of effort to expend to get something shipped out that I ordered. Thanks to marye if you had a hand in getting this resolved, appreciate it. Now time to spin some prime 79!

Oh yeah and Ledded, you can also find your order number in your shipping confirmation e-mail.

Not sure why they wouldn't be able to find you with just your e-mail, but hope that helps.

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Its a million miles away from what I like most about The Dead these days , but I played American Beauty yesterday. I wouldn't go so far as to say its my favourite, but its still a beautiful album.

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Your bill for £83 will show up in a few days.

Yes, even though you live in the U. S., your DaP31 was first shipped to the UK, and then delivered to you.

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... I understand what you mean about playing live shows released on LP...so many sides and flipping recorders and most of the time or case the releases have incorrect song arrangements track listings , to cater the flow of the performance. I heard from a friend the giants boxset on record lp is PRIMO !!!x10. Waiting for some reviews to be published before I buy a copy. 🙏❤️😎🌹💀II’m think that’s why I love the steal your face lp release a lot! Sweet mix and mastering, recordings , the works! On the most recent LP issue! I believe it was last October for last years release for Roctobrr!
But the 1967 shrine lp is pure Audio primo sounding pressing, I think I enjoy it tons for than the cd release in terms of sound. My tubes light up in delight and my woodedfloor plank hum comfort on your naked toes, lol 🙏❤️😎💀🌹

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...happy Monday to all my brothers& sisters out there in deadland! ...I hope everyone had a grateful weekend! I can’t remember who but Someone mentioned liking the new Tool album not to long ago,which was released on 8/31/19. I’m also a fan of ‘Tool’! I don’t have all their albums but I do have most! Lol, I would my collection consists of about, let’s say, 50/50 cDs & Vinyl records. Besides loving their music, another attraction of mine for the band is the “art production” in each and everyone of their releases ! pRIMO with a capital P lolha ha in my head the only true contender to the Grateful Dead ‘Art production team!” Anyway, the main reason I’m writing this post is because this morning I decided to play Daves Pick #27 BSU Pavilion, Boise state university ,Boise, ID. 9/2/83! Is probly not a very popular Daves pick for the most part of the series a lot of fans signed up for the subscription are not fans of the Audio Quality and choice of a performance in 1983,far more better choices or performances than this concert. But I’ve found to love it after repeated listenings and my state of mind at any givin time. Now to rap this post up. Play the Dead’s performance of ‘Space on the third disc on Daves Pick 27! Then put on tools new album on you’d swear it’s the same song or instrumental sound effects & recordings. At first I really thought I put on the new tool cd but it was Daves 27 space,! Crazy ,it made feel like I was in the twilight zone series film lol ha! Rock on my friends god bless! 🙏❤️😎🌹💀
I gotta take a nap! 🙃✌️🤣

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Any updates on your situation? Did you have it sorted yet? Any folks still waiting or having problems? Please keep us aware until everything has landed where it should. Thanks.

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I spoke to UPS today and they confirmed that they are aware of the problem and told me I could ignore the invoice and late charge I had received. They said the shipper was addressing the issue with UPS. Thank you to everyone behind the scenes working on fixing the issue and looking forward to DaP 32.

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...I have been fortunate enough to view an art proof /concept for the cover forDaves Pick #32It’s my favorite cover for the series for this past years My favorite was Daves Pick #31 until I saw this proof sheet, I’m going to go so far to say I believe it’s one of the best from the entire Daves Picks series! The art proof I sawhad no date or concert venue , Absolutly no fonts/text of any kind except the Daves Pick emblem at the top of the cover art proof sheet. Have a grateful day my brothers & sisters, peace be with you all! Have yourselves a blessed and safe weekend,& Rock On! My friends, the Giants new boxset should be arriving to most homes in the next couple of weeks! Primo Audio mix and mastering within these beautifully amazing original recordings in the Deads Vault! Both audio and visual I should write. Well take care everyone , I’m off to get my treatment done at the hospital this morning, talk soon my friends, god bless🙏❤️😎💀🌹🤠

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count me in as a canadian who received two separate invoices from ups for DaP 31 - the customs duty and a late fee. I paid both immediately, wrote Dr. Rhino, and they promptly refunded my Dave's subscription cost to my paypal account. speedy and proper resolution. here's hoping it's sorted for the Giants set and vol. 32.

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