• 640 replies
    marye
    Joined:
    Whatever the current version of Furthur is up to, discuss it here!

Comments

sort by
Recent
Reset
  • Anonymous (not verified)
    Default Avatar
    Joined:
    re: Jonappi
    I enjoyed reading your heartfelt comments. I tend to agree with you in most aspects except BK's unfortunate comment and JK's playing. In the first three shows in Oakland JK did some jamming that blew my mind. Then it was like a few gigs and a lot of rehearsal to put a collar on him. In other words, Phil & Bob want the spotlight and they're not giving much to JK as much as a lot of us would love it. Respect for Jerry? Nahh, that would not be the way Jerry would want to be honored. Chimeti, Russo & Lane are a bit more than adequate and the back-up singers add a spritz but nobody ever said this was the Grateful Dead. The Dead 09 had the Rhythm Devils and a stellar lead guitar and they sucked big time while we paid double. Maybe the drummers are just tired of playing Dead music. Lastly, if you never had the chance to see a Grateful Dead show, here you can have a taste of what it used to be like. Maybe that hit wouldn't be big enough for you. Certainly not for me. But as I get older and I can see the music and whats left of the original characters slowly fade away -- sort of like NFA to end a show then the band and the crowd letting that fade bleed out, I appreciate something more about the evolution of musicians and how times have changed. Take what is for what it is and go with it or don't go. ~Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare ~
  • JackstrawfromC…
    Joined:
    Shoreline shows were great
    But the Mnt View cops have destroyed the once fabled and hallowed Shoreline parking lot. Their presence was obnoxious - driving around, walking around, under cover, circling the perimerters with binoculars, completely shutting down vending, sniffing cups for alcohol - SHEESH!! I have never seen anything like it ANYWHERE. What a shame. What the hell happened?? Thank god for an upcoming Red Rocks run where we won't get hassled by the man. Rant over. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
  • Anonymous (not verified)
    Default Avatar
    Joined:
    change is as good as a rest....
    For me, stuck as i am in London as present, though soon Yokohama bound (nope, they probably won't play there either), it's only footage of Furthur online that allows me to witness their music in a live context. Some good ones too; see here - http://www.vimeo.com/user4180524Difficult to really gauge music when not feeling the air being pushed; that beautiful loop of participatory energy between audience and artist; that tactile quality of sound as it travels in waves through the ether. Completely different medium to the computer screen, high-end speakers or not. But until my wife and i's visit to that mad Head in Oakland, it will have to suffice. The result? Jury's out...... Some moments do shine brightly, no doubt; the sheer enjoyment of their faces can carry you through; some exquisite jams certainly and it's still early days (hopefully). Their commitment to improvisation unquestionable. And yet, so far, that feeling of slight indifference; an unconnectedness that draws me (kicking and screaming) out of the "zone", seems to permeate every experience thus far. And i wonder, just why is that? What breaks the spell at that moment when you are about to enter deep space? What slowly envelopes the Soul, like an encroaching blanket of feather-like fog? What is that voice that gently breaks you out of a cushion of bliss, to bring you back to the material world with a lingering feeling of disappointment and mild disillusionment? I read a review this morning on Jambase of Furthur's June 3rd show at Shoreline; there was a quote of Phil, upon acknowledgment of the audience, saying "without whom, the music couldn't get this weird". True, i wasn't at the show; i haven't seen any video, or heard any audio. But i wonder just how "weird" was it? So far, none of the music or footage i've experienced has paid a visit to those shores. Some inspired moments certainly, but really? Weird? Reading the February/March 2006 issue of Relix, Bob Weir, annoyed at the reception a "jazz diversion" in a Ratdog show was received by the audience, the "Deadheads who went limp", said "I hate those guys, they only like it when it's an old Dead song". Now truly stretching out into a more experimental, more "out" territory may well not be Furthur's basic modus operandi. Fair enough, absolutely. Personally, i only want the musicians, ANY artist to fulfill THEIR creative urges, EVERY SINGLE TIME. I don't want to be pandered too; I want them to take THEIR music in any direction that their muse requires, no, DEMANDS. As long as it's from the heart, then complete respect is deserved every time. And i give it to them always. But, for me? I'm left a little wanting. This could well change in the future, of course. I've always found different locations, different hours of the day or night, different settings and different emotional states can produce vastly different results. And trust me, i'm in it for the long haul, i assure you. Now this next bit might be more appropriate in a different post; kinda new here (not to the Dead or this site), but recently felt the urge to dip one's toe in this black muddy river. Could my nagging emotional response to Furthur be down to the drums and guitar? Honestly? I think it is. From the bottom of my heart; not an ounce, a drip, a molecule, an amoeba (nothing against amoebas), a speck or a fleck of disrespect against Joe Russo or John Kadlecik, but this is where the contribution to "beigeness" lies. I just don't get an emotional payoff with these two. Could happen of course, as i said, but so far? Sad to say, no. And i don't even know why this is so. But once that suspicion creeps in, maybe analysis is pointless and a fool's errand. It presented itself and i have to acknowledge it. Drums: In other contexts, Joe has impressed. But i just don't know. Something is missing. It's all there and yet it isn't; the limbs moving but the journey tethered to the point of departure. My own wish to see.... Glenn Kotche? (Tony Williams? bless his SOUL). Hamid Drake? Chris Corsano? Jean-Paul Gaster? (in that pocket but jam to spare....) Claude Coleman Jr.? Tatsuya Yoshida? Gerry Hemmingway? Guillermo E. Brown? prime time Jack DeJohnette? Junzo Tateiwa? Steve Gorman? Gerald Cleaver? Guitar?....whoa......... I have to say i'm with Bill Kreutzmann on this regarding Furthur's approach and veiled reference to John. Although, his comments, that still show up in a google search of Jambands as headers, was wildly and shamefully taken out of context/exaggerated; he has said on many an occasion the respect he has for Furthur. I have read it. Lets hope others take the time to do the same. True, true, he might grow (and i truly hope so) into demonstrating a more personal form of expression, taking greater artistic control (and license) with the Dead material. Who knows what's in store? But can years and years of recreating Jerry's playing really be broken? Can his own inner voice really shine through? Does he have one? Will it be allowed to flower even if he does? What is the greater need for the Furthur followers (and the members themselves)? More of the same with occasional tangents, or real musical liberation within the framework of the Dead's gorgeous material? I know that he must feel an amazing amount of weight on his shoulders; i did think twice before contributing to any additional burden but it's only an opinion. Keep doing what you do John, whatever the outcome (let your life proceed by it's own design). As for an alternative? Well damn, i'll admit that i'm at a loss, still. The balance of down-home grit; earthy resonance and deep emotion to the very core, balanced with abstraction, dark space to the very edge of all that we hold secure; the frightening realm that berates as it inspires; that shatters all our notions of comfort, yet propels us into beauty and blissful uncertainty, strangely ripe with reassurance. The home at the edge of the world; the sunset after the end of the world. A six string equivalent of late period Coltrane. Full of soul, inquisitiveness, spirit and warmth. Brown earth and space dust on the tongue; a honey throat coat in a shimmering void. Maple and Ash. No negativity intended; no mean-spiritedness drifting from my heart. Just a gentle outpouring. Something for my fellow travelers to contemplate, i hope. What say you? A pleasure to swim in this beautiful sea we call DEAD. Responses and private messages/contact welcome. Everyone welcome. All the time. Keep safe everybody.
  • Gr8fulTed
    Joined:
    Let me know when they come to Kansas
    see subject line
  • trailbird
    Default Avatar
    Joined:
    west U.S. tour announced
    Furthur will be doing a tour of the west starting with 3 nights in Eugene, OR. Sept. 23,24,&25, and ending at the Monterrey Co. Fairgrounds Oct. 7 & 8. Hmm...
  • zepthompson
    Joined:
    simply put
    One of the best shows I have ever seen! what rain? the band was smoking all night long
  • rosa rugosa
    Joined:
    Shoreline
    Great setlist last night! Who was there? Some of us east coasters are eager to live vicariously through your experiences!We're looking forward to Mansfield in July, and a Bob Weir solo show in Portland ME in August. Oh, and I'm going to my first Phish show on 6/7 - should be fun :)
  • marye
    Joined:
    definitely
    the weather is weird. We have had a good downpour yesterday and today, although neither one lasted long. This is not normal for this time of year at all.
  • zepthompson
    Joined:
    looks like rain....
    in mountain view this weekend
  • marye
    Joined:
    okay...
    everybody ready for the next installment?
user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months
Forums
Whatever the current version of Furthur is up to, discuss it here!
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

Early snow is great this fall. Carved up the slopes at Loveland and Beaver Crik earlier this week.C'mon Cowgirl, you don't think Phil or Bobby's been skiing before? Tahoe has so much to offer.
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

Bobby and Phil were more snowboarders ;) Ah you know, I just thought it was wild that they pick CO for a random 3 night run... Unless there is more of a tour on the heels? =) "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

Loveland is one of my faves! People always underestimate that place. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
user picture

Member for

17 years 2 months
Permalink

Phil ice skated back in the '90's on tour-don't know about Bobby.....just don't think they've ever skiied, but I'll certainly poke around .......:)))
user picture

Member for

16 years
Permalink

Presale just started for CO shows...click the poster above for the link♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

since I left MSG in the Moonlight,so many days ago now T:::::::::::::::::T and ya know I write more ~ everynight. I should just type it 2 YOU, ALL but I am a little shy, sometimes kinda. I feel like a stranger... so I bought this book and am reading IT to just take the etiquette path to express my appreciation for the 57 great times, we've recently had. It's named: The Art of Thank You Crafting Notes of Gratitude by: Connie Leas Published BY: Fine Communications 322 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10001 There's a, "generous sampling" of "...inspiring thank-you notes" I said, "If you--- threw a PaRty, you would SEE." I'm working on a Proper Note Now. ...I love you so much... so so much... "The Biggest Gift Would Be From Me." Just me and My Imagination. ----------------------(------@ --------------------------(---@ _____________________@ teeheehee I'll make my apprecation known properly...one day. Maybe it will be... My Masterpiece. I am so filled with gratitude Aww shucks... A MILLION BUCKS>>> in Silver. XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO -----------------------------(---@ XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO In lovingkindness always, Sherry
user picture

Member for

16 years
Permalink

Furthur 2011 Dates for March and April Furthur is excited to announce that we'll be touring throughout the month of March into early April, 2011, as we get rolling on what looks to be an exciting year after our initial shows of 2011 in Broomfield, CO in February. Between March 4 and April 6, Furthur will be playing in the following cities: Boston, Wallingford (CT), New York, Fairfax, Philadelphia, Binghamton, Pittsburgh, Hampton, Charleston, Atlanta, Orlando and Boca Raton. Furthur Fan Club pre-sales start January 7. Click HERE for complete tour dates and venues, and please check back here soon for ticket information. We look forward to seeing you on the road in 2011! Happy holidays! Tour Fri, Mar 4th Orpheum Theatre Boston, MA Sat, Mar 5th Orpheum Theatre Boston, MA Sun, Mar 6th Orpheum Theatre Boston, MA Tue, Mar 8th Oakdale Theatre Wallingford, CT Thu, Mar 10th Best Buy Theater New York, NY Fri, Mar 11th Best Buy Theater New York, NY Sat, Mar 12th Best Buy Theater New York, NY Sun, Mar 13th Best Buy Theater New York, NY Tue, Mar 15th Best Buy Theater New York, NY Thu, Mar 17th Patriot Center Fairfax, VA Fri, Mar 18th Tower Theater Upper Darby, PA Sat, Mar 19th Tower Theater Upper Darby, PA Sun, Mar 20th Tower Theater Upper Darby, PA Tue, Mar 22nd Tower Theater Upper Darby, PA Wed, Mar 23rd Tower Theater Upper Darby, PA Fri, Mar 25th Radio City Music Hall New York, NY Sat, Mar 26th Radio City Music Hall New York, NY Sun, Mar 27th Radio City Music Hall New York, NY Tue, Mar 29th Broome County Civic Binghamton, NY Wed, Mar 30th Petersen Events Center Pittsburgh, PA Fri, Apr 1st Hampton Coliseum Hampton, VA Sat, Apr 2nd North Charleston Coliseum Charleston, SC Sun, Apr 3rd Fox Theatre Atlanta, GA Tue, Apr 5th UCF Arena Orlando, FL Wed, Apr 6th Mizner Park Amphitheatre, Boca Raton, FL Sounds like Fun!!!! ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months
Permalink

It will be back to Radio City for me. "That path is for, your steps alone."
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

14 years 2 months
Permalink

european dfates oh well!!!!!!
user picture

Member for

15 years 8 months
Permalink

I live in Las Vegas and have seen Ratdog many times here and Furthur once. Lookin forward to New Years with Furthur in San Francisco!I dont mean to speculate but Bill and Mickey for special guest at a Furthur show would complete the universe. New Years would be perfect. You just KNOW its gonna come true… Still, Furthur is bathing in great success today and the above posts are all right and true. Love to all you grate people peeps graple! smilin' on a cloudy day
user picture

Member for

17 years 3 months
Permalink

Tune in 12/31/10, at 9 central, and rock on satellite radio!!! West coasters will be parting at 7?
user picture

Member for

16 years 11 months
Permalink

Hey now, where is everyone these days? LIning up 2011 show plans? We got tix for 3/4 & 3/6 at the Orpheum in Boston. No luck yet on 3/5, but still waiting for word from DS TOO - hope they come through for us! This is the first time I've tried the mail order route. The online presale was totally hopeless. It is unfortunate that the mail order and general online sales aren't timed far enough apart for you to know whether you've scored on one before you try the other.
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

It seems like our old 2009 Dead tour dead.net pals are not here much any more :( It's good to see YOU though! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
user picture

Member for

16 years 1 month
Permalink

Just saw for 2011 2 shows in Fla. First one at the new University of Central Florida's Arena. Just opened back in 08 and this a beautiful place to see a show with plenty of parking and lots of room for vending, partying, etc..., just watch out for the campus police, they can be real backward thinking and have a tendency for overreacting. With that in mind, have fun but be safe. Since the band will be skipping North Carolina this spring, I can't think of a better place to be in April, Sun, fun, furthur, definately something better to think about besides all of this snow and cold up here. "Paradise waits....."
user picture

Member for

17 years 3 months
Permalink

Tell me about Mizner Park: it is an outdoor theater? I enjoyed the Miami Bayfront show last year.
user picture

Member for

16 years 11 months
Permalink

Jack: Looks like you have three shows coming up in CO, and I'll bet you're going to all of them - enjoy!Ted & Sam: What about the SC show? Just wondering, I would think that would be a nice warm spring venue as well. We've got tickets for 3/4 & 3/6 at the Orpheum in Boston. It's a small venue that sold out quickly. It's a real Brokedown Palace with lots of duct-taped renovations, but it's only 12 miles from our house, so we would love to be able to do all three shows. Still waiting to see if mail order comes through for us (and if it does, we'll have too many tickets - but better than getting shut out!) I'm surprised there isn't more conversation on this site - The Dead in 09 tour generated so much action, I could barely keep up with it after work. And that was just one tour in one season, where it feels like Furthur is taking us further indeed - a lot to be happy about, especially for folks like me, who got on te bus belatedly.
user picture

Member for

16 years 11 months
Permalink

We went to one of their shows in early Sept at the Hampton Beach Casino (NH) in early Sept, and it was great! Right-up-front forty-dollar tickets in a small-summer venue, too!Would definitely recommend and hope they come back soon.
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

Hit New Years in SF and next 3 more in Broomfield .. pretty grateful indeed! Have fun at you shows Rosa! Yes I agree that Rhythm Devils are awesome. Saw them twice last summer with Keller, they were A LOT of fun!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
user picture

Member for

16 years 1 month
Permalink

is an outdoor facility, alot like the bayfront in Miami, there is absolutely no tailgating at this place and parking will be expensive and iffy. I love south Fla but I will pass on this show, as far as South Carolina, I had a bad experience there and wouldn't set foot in that state for love or money or even free tickets, the cops in this state suck and they will bust you or at least mess with you if you look the least little bit like a head, good luck to any and all going there.
user picture

Member for

16 years 4 months
Permalink

Has anybody else noticed that the Tues, March 8th show in Conn. is on Mardi Gras? Laissez les bons temps rouler!
user picture

Member for

16 years
Permalink

Hey boyz and girlz...LOVE YOU....missed you too. Figured I'd just write everything here, because I assume most people check this thread. I've been under some serious pressures lately, Mom is back in the hospital, and honestly when she was out it was like a full time babysitting job. So, I appreciate all the kind vibes from all you from before, she's doing ok, just not there yet. Also, I've been working on projects @ the same time so I've had to put PRIORITIES ahead of being online and talking to my family. I will be getting everything squared away here in the next couple of days, I really just need to sleep and take a breather from the Chaos of what I've been dealing with. So please don't think that I've forgot about prizes and Getting back online/chatting/talking/vining and talking with all you kind folks. Just know that I've been under EXTREME stress with Mom's Disease and dealing with the game called "Life". Thanks for understanding, and I love you my family....ALOT! In fact without some of my close friends and dead.netters (family freinds) I don't think I'd still be sane right now. Love, Canyon Critter ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
user picture

Member for

15 years 8 months
Permalink

Sleep in the stars...glad your mother is improving. Galaxies of healing light to you and your mom and family!
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

15 years 9 months
Permalink

We are soooooooo ready for Boston!!!! Babysitters...check.....room...check.....money saved...check....March it happens...Beantown will kick it off. My wife and I are sooo ready to shake our bones and stomp the feet. Thank you Bobby and Phil for bringing us along on this trip...and to Mickey, Billy, Bruce, Donna, Tom and all....gather together one more time....PLEASE!!!!!! So MANY ROADS!!!
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

But 2011 really kicks off with 3 in Broomfield first my friend =) 2 weeks from Friday the train will be rollin on into town!!! Well my mama told me my papa told me too ... "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
user picture

Member for

16 years 11 months
Permalink

Have a wonderful weekend at the Broomfield shows!
user picture

Member for

16 years 10 months
Permalink

we should petition Sunshine to change her name to something that starts with a J, so they can go back to being aka Bob, Phil and a handful of J's... Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

Broomfield Feb 11 immediately!! Enough said. This is shaping up to be their greatest run yet. Wow! This was show #12 for me and I have every show they have played. Something special happened in the 1st Bank Center last night. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
user picture

Member for

17 years 4 months
Permalink

02/11/11 (Fri) 1st Bank Center - Broomfield, CO Set 1: Jack Straw > Me & My Uncle, Loser, Big River, Must've Been the Roses, Deal (1) > Black Throated Wind, Brown Eyed Women Set 2: Weather Report Suite Prelude > WRS Part I > Let it Grow, Mountain Song > I Know You Rider, Dark Star > China Doll, Playing in the Band, Help on the Way > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower E: Liberty (2) Comment: (1) with Brother Esau jam; (2) before Liberty, Phil says "This one is for the people of Egypt"
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

I'd rather be in some dark hollowWhere the sun don't ever shine Than to be home alone, knowing that you're gone Would cause me to lose my mind "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
user picture

Member for

16 years 4 months
Permalink

Just listened to Friday nights show in Colorado, and they sound great! It's getting better all the time. Thanks for putting it on the road again yet one more time! It's so great that at this point in time new people can still come to a show and get what the experience is all about! Party on, everyone!
user picture

Member for

16 years 11 months
Permalink

We got to hear some of it streaming on GD radio Saturday, great show!Furthur's next show - Boston, 3/4/11!
user picture
Default Avatar

Member for

14 years 5 months
Permalink

It seems like a perfect venue for Furthur I am surpirsed they haven't played there yet. I am praying for a 3 three night run sometime this summer. Broomfield shows were legendary...loved the 1st set Me and My Uncle!
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

Time to start thinking about summer festivals!! Hope there is a Rothbury. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
user picture

Member for

15 years 7 months
Permalink

I second Gr8fulBrad's emotion: We Canucks are making the trip to Frisco for the Days Between and would LOVE to hear a 3-night run at the Greek Theatre. Pretty please?? (~);)
user picture

Member for

15 years 7 months
Permalink

String Cheese will definitely be playing 2 nights at the "Electric Forest" festival in Rothbury, MI. Not sure about other acts. There are rumours that this is the same weekend as Phish at Watkins' Glen. Ouch.
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

I'm talking FURTHUR in the Electric Forest man!! And Rhythm Devils and Widespread and Yonder along with SCI.. oh what a dream that would be "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months
Permalink

What did you think? I thought second set sizzled. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
user picture

Member for

13 years 11 months
Permalink

To all heads going to this show......I live in this area and would like to inform ALL heads attending. This venue is across the strreet form a police department and jail. 6 UP people.Nothing cool ever happens here & I do not expect much tolernce. I may be wrong. Maybe they want to start having more shows to bring in revenue and will be very tolerant. One can hope, and I have been surprised before. Just thought I would throw it out there.
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

Just announced... "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
user picture

Member for

16 years 11 months
Permalink

I thought it was a wonderful show! The first couple of songs didn't excite me too much, but from Alabama Getaway on, it was all good. The second set was truly amazing!We went to all three Boston shows, and I was lucky to hear a lot of favorite songs I hadn't hear live before: Alabama Getaway, Crazy Fingers, Help>Slip> Franklin, Morning Dew, Tom Thumb's Blues, Mason's Children, Passenger, and St. Stephen. It does seem like they don't always pay enough attention to what they've played in a certain geographical area before. For example, there was only one song at the 11/19/10 Worcester show that I hadn't seen Furthur do before (China Doll), and it was only my fifth Furthur show. And the 3/5 Ripple encore was nice to hear as always, but that was the encore for the 6/30 Lowell show and the 11/19 Worcester show, so it does become a little less special. So I was really glad to get so many tunes in Boston that I hadn't seen them do before.
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

Man what a show - A Supplication and a guest appearence from Steve Molitz for an Elevator?? Not to mention the anticapted Here Comes the Sun.. nice, really really nice!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

So did no one tape any of these shows??? Bummer... "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
user picture

Member for

17 years 5 months
Permalink

I echo your comments about the Friday night show. Second set rocked. Glad you enjoyed all three shows. My next taste will be Radio City. I heard Warren Haynes joined the boys for the Second Set last night. Anybody out there have a review. I saw the Allman Brothers Saturday night and Warren absolutely burned the place. It was his night and he was sizzling, especially the first set. However, I never thought he quite meshed during THE DEAD tour a few years ago, so I'm curious if he was able to shine with Furthur. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
user picture

Member for

15 years 10 months
Permalink

Anyone get reserved seats in the pre-sale?? What an F'ing joke. I was on right when the clock struck 10 (our time) and every single reserved seat was gone, not 10:05 not 10:01, hell not even 10:00:30. Then you check stub hub and ticketnow and wow there's the tickets in some damn scalper's hand already. How do they do that?? Is it an inside job?? WTF??? It's not right it's just absolutely not right. Rant over. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"