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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • daverock
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    Slaves to system

    Incidentally, if the Dead as a band had thought their system was good enough they would have continued using the same sound system they had in 1966 on into the 1990s. And played the same set list-why change if something works? Everything that exists is a development from what was and a preparation for what will be. That's how I see it, anyway.

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    On the bright side...

    I bought the modest looking Miles Davis Bootleg volume 4 yesterday. 4 cds packed with action-it starts with a set from 1955, on to 1958, two sets by the incredible so called 2nd Quintet in 1966 and 1967...then on to the electric sets from 1969, 1971 and 1973. Its too much, man.
    This was the first of these bootleg series collections by Miles Davis that I have bought. It was very inexpensive, and includes a nice booklet. The sound is good, too. Its not all la de dah...but its much better than the "bootleg" in the title would suggest.

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    You are correct sir.

  • Vguy72
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    Blizzard Of Ozz....

    .... almost the perfect album. Almost. Rhoads had so much potential, it should have been illegal.
    Apologies. The wife and have been binging on early 80's music and Blizzard came into the cue.
    Love this record.

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    Interesting Discussion on Quality

    All points are valid and the real issue to those affected is not necessarily the error rate, it's the frustration rate. This is especially true because they seem committed to the limited numbers model, so by the time many realize there is a problem there are often limited paths to correction.. which combined with a one or two week delay (or more) in Customer Service feedback can really amp up the frustration level.

    That being said, I have ordered every release in a timely manner since One From the Vault, had some issues and they were always resolved. ..eventually, and to my satisfaction. Many thanks to those that assisted and helped especially Saint MaryE and the good doctor.

    I do think voicing displeasure here works to a limited effect, provided it's not too bombastic, overbearing, etc. I bet if news reached some in the band they would be appalled but Bobby no longer returns my calls.. there is that restraining order thingie with Phil.. and I frankly owe too much money to Bill and Mickey, as do many of us here. But be creative, rational and persistent and things usually do get resolved.

    It's the one area in life where normalcy is a good thing. Hoping they get back to having a consistent and reliable product. Normal meaning you order it.. your credit card is charged, the product is delivered, and plays.. you enjoy it (or not) and the circle of life repeats.

    Have a good rest of the weekend all.. Man.. is it fall already? Holy shit, time is flying. Who oh what I want to know-ohh.. where did the summer go.

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    Good enough system

    I have a very few problems with the system, apart from DaP #31. However, what was obviously wrong in that experience was the lack of communication. If it is obvious that a problem has occurred then it should be easy to put a comment on dead.net explaining what is being done to address it. There was little or no useful response to the DaP freight charge fiasco. Lessons should be learnt.

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    archive listening to 7/12/87

    sounds ok, but my mind ain't blown yet.

    cool GSET as third song in first set, though

    and now a tripped-out "Take a Step Back"

    :)))

  • stoltzfus
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    Aye, Exile...

    vote with your wallet

    that from a guy who hasn't had any "shipping blues"

    sincere sympathies for those of you who have had/do have issues.

  • daverock
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    Is the system good enough, though?

    Surely if any individual feels let down by it, then it isn't. Nothing is perfect, but it always seems a positive trait to try and improve things so as not to let people down. Negative feedback may help do this, and prove to be positive in the long term. Far better to do this than simply to disappear and stop buying Dead things, I would have thought.

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    I’m enjoying the heck out of this box! Hope everyone gets theirs soon... Packaging and art/booklet are spot on, and the sound is incredible. Thanks to all those who worked to create this!

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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I concur Spacebrother, 91 was a hell of a year for the Dead, I caught the 3 shows in Orlando in April I believe it was, yes, beautiful weather, beautiful scene, Bruce and Vince and Jerry on top, just some fine shows. More 91 would be ok by me.

Scuffling around and hoping to find 11-29-80 in my mailbox for Dave's 32. That would be just wonderful and a great Xmas present. No, I will not be silent, raise a glass to Gainesville and may the Gods allow it's release. I bet that vault is all cramped and lonely, it deserves to see the light of day in all it's splendor and glory.
PS Happy birthday Roger Waters, a couple days late.

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..and happy birthday to Mickey Heart a day early.

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I let go of my compendiums a while ago

but

one of them got broken in half on the spine, and it was lost, until I found it

anyway

I recently went full-on crazy about how good 1/5/79 is.

as usual, compendium is like, "yeah, whatever."

most of the reviewers in those publications had their heads up their respective exits.

just sayin'

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i recently remembered a few old tunes from the old days

Lene Lovich:
"Lucky Number"
"New Toy"

I have listened to them each about 20 times

thank you youtube for the rememberies

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The wife’s at a two day conference so as per last night I’m going LARGE . Dicks picks 7 at the ally pally two words “ morning dew “ less of a song more of a sermon 🙏 . I just love the very polite very British ( limey ) reaction at the end , If that had been over the pond the crowd would have gone do-lally . Also I love the way Jerry thanks the crowd at the end of the song . Damm it the boys ( & girl ) should have come over more often .

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Anyone out there got a copy of the grateful dead monopoly ? I’m thinking of buying a set for the family Christmas Day game . £50 on eBay , might take a punt . BTW for you septics £50 = $50 at the moment thanks to bloody brexit

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Looks like it’s now affordable for the Yanks to travel to the UK.
Party at Peri’s.

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My other guilty pleasure is dicks picks 19
The China>Rider bridge is a real spine tingler .

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Say the word ice cream

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Say the word ice cream

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I love the discussion of the Dick's and Dave's Picks. I don't have all of the Dave's Picks so I can't comment on a favorite. I do need to relisten to several of the ones I do have.

As for Mr. Latvala's picks, right now I am into my second most recent acquisition - #31. Although a compilation it is still stellar. The China > Rider on there is damn good among most of the rest of 4 discs. Playing, Eyes are all great. As my yesterday most recent acquisition, #21, as made it into my vault. I will take a rare dive into 1985, well at least for me. A lot of you talk about shows from that year so this will be cool as I haven't heard much at all from that year.

Finally I just got the new Allman Brothers Fillmore West 71 box. I haven't listened to it yet but it looks to be on par with The Fillmore East box set list wise. There is a Mountain Jam but that is from an earlier 1970 show, filler on the 4th disc . And to that this box is only 4 discs as compared to 6 like the Fillmoe East complete box set. However The Fillomore East box represents 5 shows where the West is only 3.
Production-wise it I think it is interesting to note that all 4 discs are contained in a simple cardboard slip case, much like the Europe 72 shows. That's definitely a change of pace when compared to Dead box sets. Now I am not complaining but merely noting the difference and obviously spatial benefit. Anyway I am looking forward to diving into this and Dicks #21.

....today and tomorrow are the anniversaries of the glorious '83 Santa Fe shows. Check 'em out....
Also, tomorrow Mrs. Vguy and I celebrate our 20th anniversary. Yeah, I know, 9.11. It was 1999, so I bear no responsibility. It's also Mickey's birthday. 9.11 is a strange, sad, happy day. All emotions roll into one.

Dicks Picks 31 and 19 are full on classics.. to steal a line from Stolie, thanks for the rememberies.

Kevin.. now you've done it. Frankly it's too late for witness protection, you have only one choice and three variants..

Say goodnight to your wife, kids and comfy shoes.. then leave - pick one of the three places where they might not find you. Jr. Accountant, Northern territory - Pakistan, Uber driver North Yungas Road, Bolivia or salad chef, Applebees Las Cruces NM. Only post here using your new User Name, Bolo25. Good luck.. dibs on your E72 box set.

If it's 82, 4/19 gets my blatantly biased vote.

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My daughter's birthday is 9/11. A couple years after the attack we took her out to a nice restaurant on her birthday. When the wait staff brought the dessert and sang happy birthday we could overhear other diners saying things like "that sucks" and "poor kid".

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..and she shares a birthday with Mickey Hart. I don't think that sucks at all.

In fact, I hereby give her my newly inherited E72 Box Set as a birthday gift, compliments of the recently exiled Kevin Brandon.

One Edit: If you take her out for her birthday this year.. I recommend against the Applebee's in Las Cruces NM. Or if you do go there, don't bring up the box set in front of the staff.

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10-9 or 10-10 would be fun.
A double Frosty...

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....vs 10.9-10.82. A heavy weight match for sure. Ding. Ding.
9.20.19 might be interesting Brandon. We shall see....

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I recall Billy saying that he sometimes lost track of what the main song was that they were playing when they went off on some of the jams. I laughed and thought yeah, I can imagine. This morning I was listening to The Other One from April 7th 1972, and was in the middle of Part 2, an 8-minute section after El Paso, and the Jam section could have come right out of Playing in the Band. I thought it was noteworthy just because I've never mistaken the two, and it brought Billy's comment to mind. As Elwood said - strong stuff!

Kevin, I'm behind on the posts, but it sounds like you have the Europe 72 trunk coming your way. Good for you brother. Will you listen in chronological order? Keep us posted on any nuggets of goodness. Even carrying a PhD in Europe 72 has its limitations - it's just so vast.

Have a Grateful day all.

P.S. - The Other One, Part 2 that I mentioned is an awesome rocker. 8 minutes of awesome jamming, with no meanderings into Space.

P.P.S. - I have a mix going this morning, so I'm all over the place, but just wanted to put in a plug for the DaP 14 Bonus Disc version of Wharf Rat. The whole thing is nice, but the outro Jam is top-shelf / large gin and tonic good. This was the Academy of Music release 1972.

P.P.P.S - I saw some '91 talk. I'm looking forward to the Giants Stadium '91 release. The Uncle John's Band listening party sold me, alongside the 48th track sound quality and the otherwise fantastic setlist.

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I'd like to hear One Man's view. :-) It's perennially been a skipper for many, but I have always been a proponent for 10-3-87. 5-14-78 is really strong as well. I discovered that one thanks to participants here. There are many, many others because it seems Jerry truly enjoyed jamming on the tune.

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I will never understand why people like LLR so much

it's a song that makes me wince when I hear the opening chords

I usually listen to it anyway, and know that it can build some good energy

but...

a thousand and one opinions in Deadland

NOT like, sorry LOVE, LLR? How did you pass the Capcha test for humanosity. Probably the sort of guy that stiffens and backs up when a little orphan girl hugs him and ask for help. (Please mister I'm all alone) But poor Stolzey born without a heart. Sort of guy who'd shot his mother just to keep his trigger finger supple. Oh god the inhumanity of it. Maybe it's time for some re-education. Strapped down and forced to listen to EVERY LLR, and the Donna ones, twice!

Sorry about that,,, didn't mean to fence you in the lines I might have drawn for deadheadness.

LLR rules, touchheads drool

Nothing wrong with not liking a tune or six or twelve..

I do like some of Jerry's guitar parts on many versions of this song. I'd put Row Jimmy in a similar class of what I think is a good song but many don't care much for it. Sometimes in the middle of a set where they are just killing it, nothing fits better than a soulful, reflective ballad or as Bob puts it, a crying song.

Don't get me wrong, I have my own laundry list of skip songs or restroom break opportunities, I bet we all do. Nothing wrong with that.

Edit: Ha.. just read Dennis' post. I now have this visual of a poor guy from the pacific Northwest, being strapped down with old, thick leather belts in a white, padded room with nothing but giant speakers and a big picture of Bobby and Donna sharing a mic. Just as the volume is turned way up and an everlasting loop of every Looks Like Rain ever performed is put on, out walks a woman resembling Nurse Ratchet with a device that holds your eyes opened and she begins to drip drops into his eyes ala Clockwork Orange just as we get to the first Donna wail.

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Clockwork Orange, snicker, snicker, first thing that came to my demented mind!
LLR is one of those that I won’t say I don’t like it, I’m just burnt on it. That being said, anytune, in the right time and space can still be awesome, just some unfortunately it helps if I’m in the mood........BUT!, the
10/10/82 LLR is a real Boobie Dazzler! Weir sounds like his ole lady just broke up with him.
Hell that whole first set kicks ass!

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Any Europe 72 version with Jerry on pedal steel, just for the uniqueness. Also 6/29/76 Chicago I like a lot, but I like the whole show!!!

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Happy Birthday Mick, can't wait till you get that band back together once you're done with that D & C thing.

LLR, meh, there are much better Bobby songs, Cassidy comes to mind. lost sailor, picasso moon even. lol

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I just noticed now there's an actual picture of this box. I may have missed it previously.
I like it.

Regarding looks like rain, this one has definitely grown on me over time. In particular, the versions from Spring tour 90 are the most interesting. The one included on without a net is top-notch, but there's at least one other during that spring tour that is as equally good. The use of the weather machine/rolling thunder & Jerry's crazy runs at the end building to a climax are The Shit Its Made Of.

Sixtus

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Yes, a picture of the box and discs and book, and also a listening party for one of the 91 shows, in all of their 48 track glory. I can't wait to hear the isolated woodblock track on Mickey's kit.

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Stoltzie I am with you on this one. I do dig Jerry's pedal steel on the E72 versions, but I only ever listen to it by accident. What would be cool to me is a mix without vocals, which they can do with those Europe 72 multi-tracks. I'll take it as an instrumental and use my Poweramp app to increase the tempo a bit.

I don't really reach for Row Jimmy, but every time it comes on by accident, Jerry seems to deliver the goods, and I think hmmm, I should listen to this one more. 1973 - 1974 right? I wonder what heady version says about that one.....

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Hadn't noticed the picture of the box till I saw Sixtus' comment. Looks pretty cool to me. Seems pretty close to the ideal size, I'm guessing close to the size of the Summer '78 box or the first May '77 box.

Edit: I see that it now says that pre-orders will be released on 9/20.

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.... exactly what I dreamed of.
LLR? A decent thread about an average song. I think the song got better as the years rolled by. And, like Sixtus, I also love when Healy broke out the rolling thunder effects. Brave the storm to come....
Btw, my new Onyko receiver arrived. My pdsd broke out when I saw the back of it. Deep breaths Vguy, deep breaths.

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Agree Senator.. Were they using midi effects by the end?? My favs were the few they did with the Pedal Steel and ones closer to the end when the effects and warm guitar tones were the most gooey and drippy.

I tend to gravitate towards Garcia/Hunter songs but Bobby did write some goodies.. TOO and PITB have always been some of my favorites.. but if I listed them all.. well, he did write some mighty fine songs and some of the performances throughout the years were terrific.

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VGuy the same thing happened to me last winter when my old Sony finally blew. The new receiver I got has so many bells and whistles it's somewhat scary. Hang on tight, deep breaths, one plug at a time. Set aside between 8 and 16 hours to get it done right haha.

Sixtus

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Just curious as my receiver was once good.. but is 20 years old and I might have to replace it one day.

Does they new Onyko go to 11? Mine only goes to 10.

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Great catch on the moved up release date Charlie. So, we will be receiving this box next weekend! Yeha! I have never seen them move that date up before. Not much hype from Rhino or Dave on this box. No box reveal, no show by show seaside chats.

Question for you Grateful Dead channel SiriusXM subscribers. Had a chance to listen yesterday as I had a loaner car while my car was being worked on.
3/19/77 came on. I was surprised and thought this was great, because of course the March Winterland 77 run has not been released yet. Do they only play shows or selections from the Vault?
If that is the case, man, imagine the possibilities.

Super excited to get this box next weekend

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This might be hard to verify.. but I am fairly confident they do play (or used to play) shows that are not in the vault, including the occasional audience recording. I can't recall any concrete examples, but I know I have heard shows being played years ago that have since been returned as part of the hostage reel exchange ala ABCD Enterprises.

I'd put my confidence this is true at 90%. In addition to the audience tapes they do play soundboards that according to Dave are not in the Vault.

For what it's worth, that's how I got turned on to Satellite Radio back in the early 2000's?? Back then, XM had the better Bluegrass and Reggae stations (Bluegrass Junction and The Joint) but Sirius had Jam Central which morphed into The Grateful Dead Channel. Back then they offered lifetime subscriptions for something like $400 which I bought.. paid for itself many times over by now.

On or about the time they created The GD Channel, Jam Central became Jam On.. which is now the Phish Channel. I really do miss Jam On and dare I say I would rather have that station back, playing a lot of Phish, than to have lost it altogether.

Hope that helps.. it's good car music or something to put on when you just don't have the focus or time to pick your own music.. DJ style I guess if your DJ was a head.

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Siriusxm, they play both audience recordings and soundboards as the full shows.

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I was there that day,,, having a nice slice with pepperoni. Sitting there eating it with a knife and fork when this guy starts wailing about "I met your mama, she's much better. So much better, I came to get her", or something like that.

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Thanks for the info guys. That is cool that they play audience recordings. Who owns and controls this channel? I was under the impression it was Grateful Dead Productions.
Of course I have listened to this from time to time throughout the years, but have never paid for a subscription. I own way too many CDs and have over 250 in my car hard disc drive.
Couldn't believe it when I got in my loaner car and there was no CD player. I gasped, nurse, help?

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Speaking of 1979, there was much discussion when DaP 31 came out about the Dec 79 choice, and a lot of love for 12/1/79, Stanley Theatre Pittsburgh (a show I was familiar with). They are playing it on SiriusXM now, love the second set.

The beginning of the second does rock.

China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider
Looks Like Rain
He's Gone
Gloria Jam
C.C. Rider (first time played, great location in the second set)

The sound is what I remember.. a good soundboard but a bit lacking on crispness, some of the sound a little muddy. The new Dave's Picks is cleaner, but it got the Full Norman, so it's hard to compare.

I had just sent a friend here the missing parts of 5/15/70, and a got a "received ok" note yesterday. Low and behold, they played the early show at noon on SiriusXM.. almost just as I was reading the note. Weird..

If anyone hasn't done what Ziffle described one this thread I think a few weeks back, basically combining what was released on the FE 1970 Road Trips (early and late show) with both the unreleased songs (only a couple I think) and the NRPS sets, placed back in the original order.. it's worth doing. It took me 7 CDs to fit the whole show, at least Jerry and Mickey sitting in on every song (I think). Way cool.. what a marathon of a show.

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I am listening to 4/11/72 Newcastle show because someone asked for favorite Looks Like Rain.... I can't tell you the last time but what a treat to listen to that Truckin>Other One>Comes a Time that clocks in close to an hour, and one of those awesome Good Lovin's from this tour!!! Perfect for this rainy, cloudy mid 60's Rhode Island day... Thanks bob t

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