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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • #1331
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    That's a good descriptor and this would have been a cool show for said destination. After my morning listen (twice) I found the '75 excerpt from the Bonus Disc to illicit multiple feelings/reactions: this having been only one of very few '75 performances, it must have been a 'WTF' moment when they started playing Blues for Allah - it just sounds SO DIFFERENT than anything they had done before (or ever did after, for that matter). With the Mid-Eastern vibe it seethes with mystery and then it gets into a magnificent meltdown that eventually opens up into the groove of King Solomon's - definitely the highlight in there. It covers a lot of ground in the 31 minutes or so, but again the 'feeling' of this performance is entirely unique.

    Good call on the callback here.

    Sixtus

  • #1332
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    back in college days (82-86) i had a tape of 3/23/75

    during a visit to Lysergia, i experienced that tape.

    :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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    Hey ICECRMCNKD, You were probably referring to the link I posted last year to Woodstock Project’s “Woodstock Complete”. WS Complete is a very cool bit of sonic archeology by a handful of hardworking members. They’ve been unearthing audio from 1969’s 3-day festival since at least the ‘90s. Its skeleton is comprised of official releases beginning with the original WS Soundtrack, WS2 and subsequent official releases by individual artists, plus the 25th & 40th anniversary collections. Then, for any performances/tracks without official releases, audience recordings of varying sound quality have been inserted (sound familiar? SBDs vs AUDs). It doesn’t stop there – stage announcements, TV & radio reports/interviews, pre-festival radio ads, etc., etc. are all part of Woodstock Complete, and yes there’s sometimes an unavoidable discontinuity in sound quality. There are some pretty cool gems preserved in Woodstock Complete which is updated every few years with new (re)discoveries. It’s uncertain how the recent box will affect its future, but the most recent WS Complete ’16 still includes a lot of amazing historic artifacts that dovetail nicely with the WS 50 Box.

    The just released WS 50 Box (38CD Woodstock - Back To The Garden: The Definitive 50th Anniversary Archive) that Rhino released this month is a whole ‘nuther animal. Here’s what I’ve gleaned from looking over several shoulders. To begin with, the idea of releasing ALL of the official multi-track stage recordings has heretofore been understood to be an impossible dream. Altho owners of the tapes (Atlantic/Cotillion at the start – now WMG/Rhino) have always owned the multi-tracks, they still need approval from each of the artists (or their reps or executors) to release their individual WS performance. Just one holdout would scuttle any en masse release of the tapes.

    Brian Kehew, who remixed every performance for this box (except for the Hendrix set which includes the Kramer mixes), put it this way on Steve Hoffman: “One of the tenets of getting this many parties to agree to a release was the LOW number of complete boxes being made, a very limited number just for the 50th, no more - and NO downloads or streaming rights at all. I'm not privy to their discussions, but as Mr. [Andy] Zax has most-subtly hinted at over and over here: This is not coming out again, in a reduced or easier form. A small team at Rhino fought and fought to keep this on course, as they knew it deserved to happen. It wasn't easy, fun or even rewarding.”

    ICECRMCNKD, back to your question about sound quality: Zax, Kehew and the Rhino team have produced noticeably improved sound using technology that was not available even for the 40 anniversary release (Polyphonic Tuning for instance). Andy Zax (again, on Hoffman): “Everything was completely remastered from scratch for 2019. The 2009 box was the best we could do at the time—it suffers from the fact that I was forced to include a number of non-Brian Kehew mixes that I don’t like; that we were unable to include three of the artists; and that I was obliged to use the Fillmore versions of “Sea Of Madness” and “Wooden Ships”. All of the audio has been extensively reworked to my satisfaction since then.”

    The Dead’s set is actually pretty good and the Dark Star seems to be a lot better than Jerry remembered. Lovelight’s still a train wreck, but then the Dead was somehow playing while being slowly electrocuted and forgot "when" they were.

    I can only wonder whether the team that pulled off this box isn’t (unofficially) OK about their historic, definitive release of ALL Woodstock official stage recordings now being available as a bootleg download for free. Kinda appropriate considering how tickets for the original Woodstock worked out. . .

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    Re: WRS Opener, Seasons Change 8/21/68 and random musings

    Perhaps my favorite WRS Prelude. It's a keeper. I used to have that disc in my CD alarm clock back when I was flying coast to coast every week.. waking up at 4:00 am every Monday. It had a soothing way of brining me out of my needed slumber without shock and awe, as in awe shucks it sucks to wake up at 4 am.

    It's a classic.

    Hope everyone (in the Northern Hemisphere at least) is taking good advantage of the end of summer.. the days are getting shorter and the leaves are starting to turn here in the mountains for the weaker or sickly trees.. a sure sign that summer is short and fall is on its way. Which dovetails nicely into WRS, Darkness falls and seasons change... Did I ever mention I really like top shelf 1974 Grateful Dead? There's something for all seasons.. I think I will play some.

    One other tidbit I did not know. I was driving home from a back to school thing last night at 7 when TIGDH came on and Lemieux played parts of 8/21/68 Winterland. Apparently, this whole run was recorded on 1" 8-track tapes.. so the whole run was recorded in multi-track similar to Two From The Vault. I did not know that. Honestly, what I heard (at least initially) was not quite as compelling as 2/14/68 and TFTV (both recorded on 1" 8 Track, and both slack-jawed stunners), but still it was a holy shit moment.. like holy shit these shows have to get the Full-Norman, Plangent treatment and get released.. now.

    Not if but when, they have to get released.

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    Those were the Spinners.....who thought JG was God, and would start to hallucinate after spinning so much. They preferred the concourses so they could congregate and have more room etc, and of course eventually the band started putting speakers out there. Not sure when/where that all started? I think I recall seeing them in the early eighties, but
    A) my memory is always suspect, and
    B) early on I probably was clueless, and
    C) we usually went up front early on so didn’t get out in the halls much..
    That is a great question though!

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    Check your pm..

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    I thought everyone knew about the Beyond Description bonus disc. The WRS prelude features the best vocals I've heard Bobby sing on this piece. It's from the October '74 Winterland run, but not the version that ended up on the movie soundtrack.

    IMHO The Blues For Allah is much better than One From The Vault. The keyboards are stunning. The sound is great - I actually emailed Lemieux a couple of years ago to see if this was a multi-track recording. He said it's not, but it is that good that I couldn't tell.

    Showboat features Keith on vocals with Donna; Jerry plays on it. Not a fantastic composition, but an interesting listen to hear Keith sing. He doesn't sound bad at all, augmented by Donna, but I'm thinking it probably demonstrates the limit of his vocal range.

    Uncle Gary gave me that one. Everyone should have an Uncle Gary. Friend, mentor, DeadHead, good person.

    Oh - what I came on here for - one of my most distinct memories of the 11th from last show in 1995 at the Knickerbocker Arena was all of the twirlers on the concourse. I suppose they were all trippin. At the time I thought it was odd that they we're not inside the doorway of the Arena area to hear the sound better. Yet there they were, hundreds of them around the entire circumference of the concourse of the arena. My question - does anyone know when this behavior started at Grateful Dead concerts? 70s? 80's? 90's? I saw them at JFK in 89, but there was no concourse to speak of that I was anywhere near.

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    Never knew about the bonus disc,,, I also hauled down my copy of Beyond Description,,, not there :-(

    Can anyone out there tighten me up?

    Hard to believe 6/17 isn't in the vault,,, my copy sounds pretty damn good.

  • #1339
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    ...that seventy-five show

    Interesting discussion regarding this short/sweet 75 show. As soon as I read this I went and dug out my Beyond Description Box and sure enough, there was the bonus disc hiding away unknowingly for how long...a decade? I've popped that sucker in and am chilling to the WRS opener. I don't recall ever having listed to the '75 piece, so now I'm intrigued.

    Always a stone to turn over on these boards and find a gem. Thanks All.

    Sixtus

    P.S. Daverock - check your PM

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    I never knew it had been released already as part of Beyond Description. I had to look up what Beyond Description was, actually. I hesitated over buying it whenever it came out, and then forgot about it. Had I known about this bonus disc, I might have shelled out. Oh well-saved me some money!

    Another interesting thing about the show is that it features both Merl Saunders and Ned Lagin on keyboards, which adds a very different flavour.

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sun, 09/15/2019 - 20:36

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Candy-O and Peggy-O mysterious.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 09/15/2019 - 20:51

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....just Cars albums. An unfortunate phase. But, actually a blessing. Reminds me of high school and they have some really good songs. A perfect blend of pop/punk. Orr passed a few years ago. Rock on sirs.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sun, 09/15/2019 - 21:21

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Didn't realize he was that old (75). I own the debut album and greatest hits. Don't know much about Rick as a person, but I think it says volumes about him that he wrote all of the songs and gave half of the major hits to Benjamin Orr to sing. Especially their sophomore album Candy-O. Rick had just written this smash debut album; his political pull would have been peaking, but instead of taking the two best songs for himself, he gave them to the guy who could sing them better (Lets's Go, and It's All I Can Do). But man did they burn out quickly. They went from air wave owners to recluses overnight it seemed.

I've been listening to some tracks on youtube. There's some kind of 80s auto play going on and Genesis / Abacab came on after a Cars tune. I love this song, always have. It ain't Supper's Ready, but hey, what was in '81.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 09/15/2019 - 21:29

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....tonight. I remember that song being played on the radio every thirty minutes. Like clockwork. Justified, because it's a great song.....man.....
An interesting thing about The Cars is that Orr and Ocasek had the same tone in their singing. Hard to tell them apart.
Upon closer inspection, Easton plays a pretty mean guitar. Yeeeeah!

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sun, 09/15/2019 - 22:15

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Ric O, yall be way cool.

RIP

Thanks for the great music, bro

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 07:35

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re Country Music

ol' Jer made a (still photo) cameo, when a list of people who have covered Jimmie Rodgers was discussed.

what passes for "country" today (it filters down occasionally even to me..."I'm gonna roll my windows down"..."rain makes corn, corn makes whiskey, whiskey makes my baby a little frisky" (or something to that effect)...blech) and what was "country" back in the day are two different things.

you can't deny the influence of old school country on the GD sound, in any case.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 07:36

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get rid of that stupid reCAPTCHA nonsense. please.

I had to go through SEVEN screens to get approved.

traffic lights, mountains and hills, traffic lights, buses...GRR.
DUMB.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 09:03

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...Magic....I remember back in what, 6th or 7th grade, I made my first ever call to a radio station one night requesting they play 'Magic' by The Cars. It's one of my first music impressions that's stuck with me. 'Heartbeat City' was BIG on the ariwaves back then, and as VGuy stated, they played 'Drive' literally every 30 minutes on the radio....I recently bought a new copy of that CD about 2 years ago and recalled at what a great output it was/is.

RIP.

Sixtus

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Submitted by LedDed on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 10:14

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The Cars first two albums are gold. Candy-O, the song, came over the ipod when I was running Saturday, and I was like, hell yes! This is why I have the Cars in my shuffle. For those not knowing the deeper album cuts, go get those first two records right now. Elliot Easton is a blazing soloist whose tasty guitar would be right at home on a Steely Dan record.

It's not for me to say, but my personal feeling is that this began when Paulina left him. I've never known an older fella who could take it too well when the old lady leaves... I'm just sayin'. Sad.

Good Times Roll just came over the radio at work as I'm typing this - and the "captcha" on the site is "cars." You can't make this stuff up.

Sometimes, these things do come in threes. Eddie Money and Ric Ocasek in the same week? Hopefully there isn't a third. It does appear Eddie Van Halen is ill again. Best wishes to him and the Ocasek family.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 10:22

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Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band:
Safe as Milk
Bootleg from 4/22/74
Bootleg from NY, 1978
DaP 31
Garcia Live 11: 11/11/93

Certainly have rocked out to plenty of Eddie Money and The Cars in my life. R.I.P., fellas . . .

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 12:25

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a few years ago, I went to buy "something" at a friend's house.

I bought
we enjoyed the effects
Cars' Magic played
and it sounded reeeeeeally good

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Submitted by UncleJohn61 on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 15:05

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I bought the first Cars album when in came out in 1978 and saw them open for the Doobie Brothers that summer. I loved the song "Moving in Stereo" back then but every time I hear the opening notes, I see Phoebe Cates getting out of the pool in that red bikini. Every young man's dream. I need to watch Fast Times at Ridgemont High again.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 16:07

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Had the double cassette with each album on a side in the mid-80’s and it got a lot of play.

Coming in 3’s.
Neal Casal
Eddie Money
Ric Ocasek

Hopefully done.

And Rod Stewart appears to have beaten prostate cancer.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 16:22

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Wonder if that will mark the beginning of sending email shipping notifications, receipt of the Box by a lucky few, or nothing at all because the new warehouse failed in some way.

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 17:09

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Just to see them in that setting with the pyramids and lunar eclipse!!! So jealous... yes so many shows to go see in a time machine but that place just must have been amazing!!! Happy anniversary!! Love the Ollin Arageed to Shakedown!!! bobt

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 17:30

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It takes a fast car lady to lead a double life
It takes a slow star lady if you want to do it twice
You take your backseat rumble
Take your front seat wife
Takes a fast car lady to lead a double life...

Candy-O, a great album cover for a great album.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 09/16/2019 - 18:26

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Let's hope we get this baby this weekend with the moved up date!

I have been listening to Dave's 21 over the last couple of days. That monster show from April 2, 1973 at the Boston Garden. 34 songs! Unreal! Sound quality is amazing. My favorite China-Rider, great Box of Rain, the whole show Jerry seems to be doing something special. Here Comes Sunshine, WRS and then Eyes!
Made me think we might be due for March 24, 1973 at the Spectrum. Another killer Spring show and part of the cache of returned Betty Boards.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 06:57

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I love Dave's Picks 21 for the exact same reasons. I'm glad you mentioned the date of the show, because I can never remember the numbers. I just call that one Recommendations From The Dead, because Dick Latvala had wonderful things to say about that show in an article I read, I'll see if I can find it later and post it. Check out the last 2 minutes of Casey Jones. It's not like me to find a special moment in that song, but this performance is just intense at the end. I've compared the China Rider between this show and the March 28th show with the Scooby-Doo house cover, and I think it's this super sound quality of number 21 that gives China Rider a big edge in my mind.

Ah here it is. I am quoting Dick Latvala:

The version of "Eyes of the World" from
4/2/73- Boston is one of the best, as are versions of "Greatest Story Ever Told", "Big River", "China Cat-> Rider" and "Playingin the Band". But the highlight has to be the JAM segment following "Here Comes Sunshine.

End quote. That is one hell of an endorsement. I trust dick more than I trust Bobby or Phil when it comes to this stuff :D. Although he did often change his mind about things....

It's DP 23 from my morning commute. Don't have time to listen to the whole thing, so I did my favorite thing when it comes to cherry picking from1972 shows: I started off with Promised Land and followed up with Bird Song (like DP 36).

Here is the full article / blog from Dick:

http://www.agitators.com/gd/dick_1973.html

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 07:39

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I have some stuff in a storage facility
I was there over the weekend
another person was there, listening to some music
as I was loading the car, Buddy Holly's original version of Not Fade Away played

just...interesting.

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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 08:09

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I was twelve when Fast Times came out, so was certainly not allowed to go see it. Never did see it, but was watching the first episode of the new season of Stranger Things last night, and enjoyed a pool scene in that, set to Moving In Stereo (still just a killer song . . . ). The characters were all discussing Phoebe Cates in the episode, and hanging out at the new mall.

All of this chat today drove me to investigate, and after seeing clips of Cates and Fast Times, the entire Stranger Things episode makes SOOOooo much more sense. Thanks!

Fast Times at Ridgemont High - that pool scene with Phoebe Cates.. goodness.

Mike Damone, 'evil scalper.'

People on Ludes should not drive.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 10:33

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Sigh.

Was so embarrassed when I lent out Fast Times on VHS to my future brother-in-law in the pre-DVD days; he returned it and said the "famous scene" looked all blurry and was marred with video tape tracking lines.

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Submitted by SkullTrip on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 11:12

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The Cars first album was the first album I ever purchased. $4.99 at Sam Goody. I still have it.

Years later, I was lucky enough to have drinks with Ric Ocasek and John Waters at the Club Charles in Baltimore (during the production of "Hairspray"). He was very cool and soft-spoken, but also very funny.

Bowie, Petty, The Cars -- all cornerstones of my youth. Time can be a real bitch.

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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 15:25

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...my dad's a tv repairman. I can fix this.

(tv repairmen...gone the way of the dodo...)

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Submitted by OKCDeadHead on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 17:30

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Haven’t been lurking here in a while but saw the talk today of Dave’s 21 and went back to parts of it on the drive home. Forgot just how great this release sounds. This is the right amount of Phil in this China>Rider!

As for DaP 32, I’m still thinking we’re due for a Fall ‘72. I guess we’ll see soon enough.

Excited for this box release though. Hoping the shipping emails start soon. Glad to see the date bumped up a week.

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Submitted by Trainwrecked on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 18:10

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Reading the Phoebe Cates posts from Stoltsfuz and Keith Fan and the rest of you with the Spicoli quotes. I started from the top of the page and worked my way down, laughing and then laughing some more. When I got to Keith Fan and the worn-out VHS tape I literally fell off my bar stool. I think we all wore that part of the tape out. Rewind, play, rewind, play, rewind, pause. Same thing happened to my Cornell tape at the end of Morning Dew.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 19:25

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.... Phoebe Cates double post. Sue me.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 19:30

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....I have no idea what you're talking about. I need to speak my lawyer please.
Hey. Jennifer Jason-Leigh was no slouch either. No one talks about her.
Excuse me. My lawyer just texted me. Brb.
Cone Kid. I spent Sunday night playing nothing but Cars concerts on YouTube. The Cars are still on tap today. They are what I consider timeless.

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 19:40

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Movie came out august 1982

So she would have been 18 when filming

Wow...what a scene.

JJL....wheeee!

Care for a carrot, ladies?

....by the string of her bikini. Ok. I'm done.
If I recall correctly, Heartbeat City was the first record that I made my mom drive me to Tower Records to purchase on release day. I'm pretty sure I'm correct. Or was it The Warehouse? Another liquidated music store. Got my driver's license soon after. Tower Records ended up getting a lot of my money at that point.
Memories man. Memories.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 20:42

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....reminds me about how much the Dead were trendsetters (I can say that, right?). Every set was the same. As it was for 93.6% of bands. Iron Maiden rarely strays. But when it comes to the Grateful Dead, you never knew what was in store.
I promise, as soon as the Expanded version of Heartbeat City ends, they are up to bat. I just realized, I haven't listened to any GD since Sunday. That is weird. Trust me.
Segue. My Dolphins are literally trying to be the worst NFL team EVER!
Vegas Golden Knights are 2-0 in preseason. When life gives you lemons, lean on ones locally born team. Recipe for success.
Unless you were born in Miami. But I digress....

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Submitted by kevinbrandon on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 22:27

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I wonder if Phoebe Cates would laugh at her name being flung all over a Grateful Dead site.... Ok one more Fast Times comment but doesn't Mike Damone look like a young Alex Van Halen....."Now when you order order for the lady...it's a classy move, Now the lady will have the linguine with the white clam sauce and a coke with no ice"

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 22:33

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....with a disclaimer. "As part of our ongoing efforts to deliver your item(s) quickly, your package might not have a packing slip. If you want to double check the details of your order you can take a look at the summary below."
I'm not quite sure what that means. A hot mess is the first term that comes to mind. I'm texting my lawyer. Why the fuck should I have to double-check my order? Ugh.
I need some Phoebe. Ok. Really. This time I'm done....

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 22:47

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Got my shipping notice as well. I was also on a little dead break lately, but my 50th anniversary Aoxomoxoa came today so I gave the live disc a spin, some cool stuff on there, Clementine caught my ear on the first listen.

Been on a non-dead, mostly late '70s kick lately ... Blondie - Parallel Lines, Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True, Joe Jackson - Look Sharp! (listened to that about 4 times, cool album), Cars - Candy-O, Blood Sweat and Tears - Blood Sweat and Tears, The Who - Tommy.

Funny how many posts that reference to Fast Times generated, might be time for another viewing.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 09/17/2019 - 22:55

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....I'm gonna go out on a limb, and say that a majority of us are within the 45-55 yo Goldilocks Zone.
I just got some really good weed, so don't listen to me. This ain't my papi's stash.

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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Wed, 09/18/2019 - 06:26

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Vguy you make me laugh. "I want to party with that dude" I barely made it into your Goldilocks zone, but you are on the mark.

Holyshit I am at a red light next to a cement mixer that's spinning with about a 6in steel my face sticker on it. I want to party with that dude too.

The Fast Times line my brother and I always quote to each other is during his dream sequence when he's surfing and being interviewed after winning the competition: "Where'd you get that jacket?!?" "The network gave it to me Jeff..." I don't know why, but that one gets me everytime.

My freshman year in college there was a guy we nicknamed Spicoli, and it stuck. He was one of the coolest cats I ever ran into, and he bumped across the hall from me, so there was a lot of late-night wred, beer and Led Zeppelin. I was chiefly in my Zeppelin phase at that time, and it was his favorite band. We mixed Robert Plant's manic nirvana in there too. Yeah that was a great record. It didn't have as many hits as the one before it whose title I forget, but it was heavier and had that awesome song tie-dyed on the highway, with the Wavy Gravy intro from Woodstock. Kind of funny he wrote a song about Woodstock, considering he didn't go with his band. In hindsight, there were some real great bands that turn down that gig for one reason or another. How did the stones not go? The doors? Even the Beatles could have gotten something together, though they were all but done by that point.

Trainwrecked I have this vision of you sitting at a bar by yourself with your cell phone out reading dead net posts. I've been there buddy, I've been there. What does FOMBS mean? Google doesn't even know. Yeah I was that curious.

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Submitted by Sixtus_ on Wed, 09/18/2019 - 06:27

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...'cause I got my shipping notice as well for this behemoth. Very much looking forward to these shows, man. And that Blu Ray will look damn fine on my 80-inch'er with booming surround.

I also found the various Fast Times references to be a jolly trot down memory lane. Watching those "old" movies through the eyes of our "now times" is quite interesting. The things they used to get away with - aka no one even batted an eye - sigh. Wishing for simpler times I suppose.

That's when we put in one of these shows, turn it up to 11, and enjoy the simplicity of the utter complexity of Good 'Ole GD.

Sixtus

P.S. - KeithFan & DEAD Dreams - Absolutely, yes, yes. I have had a recurring dream - it used to happen a lot more, but I definitely have had and DO have dreams of being at a Dead show...it is mostly the ANTICIPATION of the boys going on stage....but I can even see the venue in my dream - it's sort of looks like the old Roman Colosseum, but it goes down instead of built up (aka it's built down into the ground) and I have this vision blazed into my head of me & some friends walking along the top and looking down and seeing Jerry and all the boys playing, with the music enveloping us and mostly just that overwhelming giddy feeling of anticipation/joy at seeing them there, playing, making everyone else as happy as I am in my dream.  It's EXTREMELY vivid.  I could shoot it to film if I had the actors to do it, it's that ingrained.
So, yes, you are certifiable.  But I suppose, so aren't we all?

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Submitted by Exile On Main St. on Wed, 09/18/2019 - 06:52

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Thank you for your Bird Song analysis. I have been meaning to post about it. I listened after reading your comments and you're absolutely right. I would love to have been a fly on the wall when they figured out how to play that part. I wonder why they changed it in the 80s? If I had to guess, I would say its too intricate for Bob Weir to enjoy playing. I noticed that he also skips out on China Cat Sunflower in the 80s and 90s. There was some very similar guitar work in that song.

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 09/18/2019 - 08:50

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Listening to the Dijon CD from 30 Trips...... Would love the complete tour 3 England, 1 Germany, and 3 France shows.... Or how about a Fall 74 box where you could throw in the 7 Europe shows and the 5 Winterland October shows!!! Dreaming because i know we have parts of the 3 Alexandria Palace shows, parts of the 5 Winterland shows, and the whole Dijon.....

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