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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • Sixtus_
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    That's a good descriptor and this would have been a cool show for said destination. After my morning listen (twice) I found the '75 excerpt from the Bonus Disc to illicit multiple feelings/reactions: this having been only one of very few '75 performances, it must have been a 'WTF' moment when they started playing Blues for Allah - it just sounds SO DIFFERENT than anything they had done before (or ever did after, for that matter). With the Mid-Eastern vibe it seethes with mystery and then it gets into a magnificent meltdown that eventually opens up into the groove of King Solomon's - definitely the highlight in there. It covers a lot of ground in the 31 minutes or so, but again the 'feeling' of this performance is entirely unique.

    Good call on the callback here.

    Sixtus

  • stoltzfus
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    back in college days (82-86) i had a tape of 3/23/75

    during a visit to Lysergia, i experienced that tape.

    :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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    Hey ICECRMCNKD, You were probably referring to the link I posted last year to Woodstock Project’s “Woodstock Complete”. WS Complete is a very cool bit of sonic archeology by a handful of hardworking members. They’ve been unearthing audio from 1969’s 3-day festival since at least the ‘90s. Its skeleton is comprised of official releases beginning with the original WS Soundtrack, WS2 and subsequent official releases by individual artists, plus the 25th & 40th anniversary collections. Then, for any performances/tracks without official releases, audience recordings of varying sound quality have been inserted (sound familiar? SBDs vs AUDs). It doesn’t stop there – stage announcements, TV & radio reports/interviews, pre-festival radio ads, etc., etc. are all part of Woodstock Complete, and yes there’s sometimes an unavoidable discontinuity in sound quality. There are some pretty cool gems preserved in Woodstock Complete which is updated every few years with new (re)discoveries. It’s uncertain how the recent box will affect its future, but the most recent WS Complete ’16 still includes a lot of amazing historic artifacts that dovetail nicely with the WS 50 Box.

    The just released WS 50 Box (38CD Woodstock - Back To The Garden: The Definitive 50th Anniversary Archive) that Rhino released this month is a whole ‘nuther animal. Here’s what I’ve gleaned from looking over several shoulders. To begin with, the idea of releasing ALL of the official multi-track stage recordings has heretofore been understood to be an impossible dream. Altho owners of the tapes (Atlantic/Cotillion at the start – now WMG/Rhino) have always owned the multi-tracks, they still need approval from each of the artists (or their reps or executors) to release their individual WS performance. Just one holdout would scuttle any en masse release of the tapes.

    Brian Kehew, who remixed every performance for this box (except for the Hendrix set which includes the Kramer mixes), put it this way on Steve Hoffman: “One of the tenets of getting this many parties to agree to a release was the LOW number of complete boxes being made, a very limited number just for the 50th, no more - and NO downloads or streaming rights at all. I'm not privy to their discussions, but as Mr. [Andy] Zax has most-subtly hinted at over and over here: This is not coming out again, in a reduced or easier form. A small team at Rhino fought and fought to keep this on course, as they knew it deserved to happen. It wasn't easy, fun or even rewarding.”

    ICECRMCNKD, back to your question about sound quality: Zax, Kehew and the Rhino team have produced noticeably improved sound using technology that was not available even for the 40 anniversary release (Polyphonic Tuning for instance). Andy Zax (again, on Hoffman): “Everything was completely remastered from scratch for 2019. The 2009 box was the best we could do at the time—it suffers from the fact that I was forced to include a number of non-Brian Kehew mixes that I don’t like; that we were unable to include three of the artists; and that I was obliged to use the Fillmore versions of “Sea Of Madness” and “Wooden Ships”. All of the audio has been extensively reworked to my satisfaction since then.”

    The Dead’s set is actually pretty good and the Dark Star seems to be a lot better than Jerry remembered. Lovelight’s still a train wreck, but then the Dead was somehow playing while being slowly electrocuted and forgot "when" they were.

    I can only wonder whether the team that pulled off this box isn’t (unofficially) OK about their historic, definitive release of ALL Woodstock official stage recordings now being available as a bootleg download for free. Kinda appropriate considering how tickets for the original Woodstock worked out. . .

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    Perhaps my favorite WRS Prelude. It's a keeper. I used to have that disc in my CD alarm clock back when I was flying coast to coast every week.. waking up at 4:00 am every Monday. It had a soothing way of brining me out of my needed slumber without shock and awe, as in awe shucks it sucks to wake up at 4 am.

    It's a classic.

    Hope everyone (in the Northern Hemisphere at least) is taking good advantage of the end of summer.. the days are getting shorter and the leaves are starting to turn here in the mountains for the weaker or sickly trees.. a sure sign that summer is short and fall is on its way. Which dovetails nicely into WRS, Darkness falls and seasons change... Did I ever mention I really like top shelf 1974 Grateful Dead? There's something for all seasons.. I think I will play some.

    One other tidbit I did not know. I was driving home from a back to school thing last night at 7 when TIGDH came on and Lemieux played parts of 8/21/68 Winterland. Apparently, this whole run was recorded on 1" 8-track tapes.. so the whole run was recorded in multi-track similar to Two From The Vault. I did not know that. Honestly, what I heard (at least initially) was not quite as compelling as 2/14/68 and TFTV (both recorded on 1" 8 Track, and both slack-jawed stunners), but still it was a holy shit moment.. like holy shit these shows have to get the Full-Norman, Plangent treatment and get released.. now.

    Not if but when, they have to get released.

  • Oroborous
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    Those were the Spinners.....who thought JG was God, and would start to hallucinate after spinning so much. They preferred the concourses so they could congregate and have more room etc, and of course eventually the band started putting speakers out there. Not sure when/where that all started? I think I recall seeing them in the early eighties, but
    A) my memory is always suspect, and
    B) early on I probably was clueless, and
    C) we usually went up front early on so didn’t get out in the halls much..
    That is a great question though!

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    Check your pm..

  • KeithFan2112
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    I thought everyone knew about the Beyond Description bonus disc. The WRS prelude features the best vocals I've heard Bobby sing on this piece. It's from the October '74 Winterland run, but not the version that ended up on the movie soundtrack.

    IMHO The Blues For Allah is much better than One From The Vault. The keyboards are stunning. The sound is great - I actually emailed Lemieux a couple of years ago to see if this was a multi-track recording. He said it's not, but it is that good that I couldn't tell.

    Showboat features Keith on vocals with Donna; Jerry plays on it. Not a fantastic composition, but an interesting listen to hear Keith sing. He doesn't sound bad at all, augmented by Donna, but I'm thinking it probably demonstrates the limit of his vocal range.

    Uncle Gary gave me that one. Everyone should have an Uncle Gary. Friend, mentor, DeadHead, good person.

    Oh - what I came on here for - one of my most distinct memories of the 11th from last show in 1995 at the Knickerbocker Arena was all of the twirlers on the concourse. I suppose they were all trippin. At the time I thought it was odd that they we're not inside the doorway of the Arena area to hear the sound better. Yet there they were, hundreds of them around the entire circumference of the concourse of the arena. My question - does anyone know when this behavior started at Grateful Dead concerts? 70s? 80's? 90's? I saw them at JFK in 89, but there was no concourse to speak of that I was anywhere near.

  • Dennis
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    Never knew about the bonus disc,,, I also hauled down my copy of Beyond Description,,, not there :-(

    Can anyone out there tighten me up?

    Hard to believe 6/17 isn't in the vault,,, my copy sounds pretty damn good.

  • Sixtus_
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    ...that seventy-five show

    Interesting discussion regarding this short/sweet 75 show. As soon as I read this I went and dug out my Beyond Description Box and sure enough, there was the bonus disc hiding away unknowingly for how long...a decade? I've popped that sucker in and am chilling to the WRS opener. I don't recall ever having listed to the '75 piece, so now I'm intrigued.

    Always a stone to turn over on these boards and find a gem. Thanks All.

    Sixtus

    P.S. Daverock - check your PM

  • daverock
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    I never knew it had been released already as part of Beyond Description. I had to look up what Beyond Description was, actually. I hesitated over buying it whenever it came out, and then forgot about it. Had I known about this bonus disc, I might have shelled out. Oh well-saved me some money!

    Another interesting thing about the show is that it features both Merl Saunders and Ned Lagin on keyboards, which adds a very different flavour.

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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Switching gears a bit here...

I know '76 is a hit or miss year for a lot of Heads, but after a short Hendrix marathon yesterday, I decided to spin Dick's 33 for the first time in a long while.

Reminded me how much I loved that release when it first came out. Lots of great stuff in both shows.

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You're welcome Exile. It was an interesting listening experience.

Skulltrip. I also popped on a '76 show a half hour ago with DaP 28. Cousins of.....avatar guy once pointed out how good Scarlet Begonias could get during the 2nd half jam in '76, before FOTM was attached to it. DP 33 is a steller example.

I am here to say - the between song banter on DaP 28 is so loud and funny. Maybe need headphonea

Dave's 28 is actually one of my favorite recent releases, KeithFan. It's gotten a lot of spin since it arrived in my mailbox.

And agreed on those '76 Scarlet Begonias. The '74s used to be my favorite stand alone versions for the longest time (Dave's 9 immediately comes to mind), but the ones from '76 definitely have a specific vibe that I've come to really dig.

Skulltrip and Keithfan,
76 is great stuff. Haven't come across a bad release yet. Some are better than others as far as sound quality is concerned. Dick's 33 is one of the best.

No shipping notice for me yet😭.
For those that have received them, what is the expected arrival date?

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My notice had a tracking number link for UPS and that indicated an expected delivery date of Monday 9/23.

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I had less than an hour left at work and decided it has been a while since I listened to Dave's Picks Volume 9. Cranked it through my headphones and had enough time for the first five songs. The last song I listened to before walking out the door was Scarlet Begonias from DaP 9. Then I read your post in the parking lot and now I'm replying at the gas station (no more posting and driving for me :D

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7 13 89 second set opens with hes gone
"Steal your face right off your head"
As those lyrics happen i see

What else

A syf sticker on the car ahead

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Nice, KeithFan! I love when the big generator makes those synaptic connections. What my uncle used to call a "cosmic coincidence".

Dave's 9 is one of my fave and most played picks, and that particular Scarlet Begonias always gets me grinning. Everything about it hits my ear right in the sweet spot.

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Golly-- the Release Date is tomorrow and mine hasn't even shipped yet. Lame. Has anyone else gotten Shipping notices?

No tracking # included in the email.
It says ‘Tracking Number’, but it was blank where there was supposed to be a number.

Guess its arrival date will be a surprise.

Fingers crossed for this weekend.

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No tracking number this time around? Was it shipped UPS or USPS? Are we all praying to the gods, old and new, that this thing makes it to our front doors? Here's hoping all these box sets find their way home.

Received mine as well this morning. Same deal as others with no tracking.
I guess they are going with let's hope it gets there theory. I believe Charlie received some tracking information.
Strange way to run a business in 2019.

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I got my shipping notification late on Tuesday and it did come with tracking info from UPS. It's saying it'll get here on Monday the 23rd after originally quoting me Friday the 20th. Understandable, given I'm in Houston and we're getting some flooding this week.

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I think one of the next two Dave's Picks is going to be from Autumn 72. Maybe one of the Boston Music Hall shows from September 15th or 16th. I was just listening to the sound board of a Bird Song from the 16th and it is so so good. Any other Keith fans out there are going to enjoy the piano work he was doing on that one . It's a little low in the mix but you can definitely hear him working . The other show has a good Dark Star => Brokedown Palace (it appeared on 30 days of Dead a couple of years ago. While I would like to see it cap off 2019, I could also see him using it as the poster child for the 2020 Dave's Picks subscription. Can somebody please end this 1972 drought for fuck's sake. Give us Dark Stars. That's really the dream box set for me. Give me a 20 show box set where every show has a Dark Star. " the Dark Star Constellation". If Warner Brothers wants to put me under contract for 5 years to go marketing, I'll follow dead and Company and double the DaP subscription rate and box set production numbers. $200K a year + travel expenses and conjugal visits.

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....I got one. Box left Indianapolis. Slated for Monday delivery. 🤞

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The latest 45 came the same way no tracking, and it was delivered by usps. So assumed smartpost.

UPS says I have a package coming tomorrow from WEA D2C Distribution.

Good thing that UPS knows the tracking number.

I highly recommend signing up for a UPS My Choice account. They will email you whenever they receive a tracking number going to your address. You can then watch the progress using the app.

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Thanks for the information on the UPS my choice cone kid. Really cool, love the technology there. Low and behold mine is scheduled for tomorrow! Sweet!
Thank you!
Excited now.

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>>> This weed I stumbled upon recently is almost too hard to handle. Almost.

I think Jerry sings a song about that,,,,

"This is the bone that killed Bob Marley,,, won't kill me"

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Thought of you last night.

Caught a few minutes of a Johnny Knoxville movie last night (I don't usually watch Johnny), call the Ringer. He was looking to enter the special Olympics to raise money and he's being pushed by his uncle to do it. And he was Uncle Gary! Is your Gary the kind of guy who'd enter the special Olympics?

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THEY tell me tomorrow by 4,,, only have word on the box,,,, not the LP's

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No shipping notification yet. Checked my order on dead.net and it tells me it hasn’t shipped yet. Let’s hope this means it is being dispatched correctly to the UK and I might see it in three weeks or so with no extra freight charges. I notice my DaP 2019 subscription says #32 is released on 1st November so only a few weeks to go.

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I recently chatted with a CS rep and said we need a Fall 72 box, her response was that they are saving 72 for the Dave's Picks series, whether that will be next we'll see?.. ;)

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Currently, my box is parked 35 miles Northeast of Bong. Delivery set for 9/20. :-)

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I also agree that this monster show is killer. The 'Here comes sunshine' and 'eyes' shine. Most key songs are a generous length in sweet time. Can't wait for the giants box. 4/2/73 sat in limbo till a few comments made me whip it out. Peace.

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Damn google voice translator.

Dennis would you believe i have an uncle dennis as well. He shipped me my Grateful Dead starter kit, with copies of Ladies & Gentlemen, Nassau, Dozin' and....what was the 4th one...anyway.

Moses Quasar - funny you mentioned saving the '72 shows for Dave's Picks, because I was mulling over where they might make the most money on the '72 shows. Tough to say. On the one hand those shows would be a great way to sell Dave's subscriptions, but on the other hand they could make a hefty bundle of cash on a box set. I think they need to strike while the iron's hot. I would venture to say demand for 1972 will never be higher than it is right now. It does stand to lose it's high stock price over time though, as Dead & Co won't last forever (definitely helps sales), and we ain't all getting younger.

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I also revisited 4/2/73 after seeing the comments here the last couple of days, and it did not disappoint. Great sound and a smoking show throughout. As noted, the Eyes is pretty stellar.

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Like a fine wine in a vintage year.. these shows will likely cellar well for decades to come and do nothing but increase in value. Love them as I do, D&C is a mere thin and fizzy champagne in comparison.

Who knows what will become of all the 72 shows, when and how they will get released and I suspect not all are in the vault just yet. There appears to be shows that do circulate as glorious soundboards that Dave has not been able to get his grubby little paws on just yet.

I am also suspect that a customer service rep would give out details like this without them getting leaked to the real insiders.. but this is all speculation. I don't think this really gives us anything to go on.

One way to look at things from this point forward is.. when they break it all down, box sets vs. special releases vs. Dave's Picks all sell for about the same price per disc (give or take). This most recent box set is slated to sell 16k copies and it spans 87 through 91. The last box set will one day sell 15k copies. Dave's Picks is easily selling 20k copies and if they have to string us along with the occasional kind 1972 Normanized nugget, I'd call it pretty savvy marketing.

Either way, the business model is the same. They are spreading out the really good shows and in order to buy them, you have to get a box with a few crème de la crème with a few surrounding shows mixed in. The same with Dave's Picks. If you want the releases, they are going to temper the great with the other releasable shows that many people like and are still in high demand, yet not quite anthems.

That's all good with me. $100 a year plus a box and a vinyl disc or two.

As far as 1972, there are many in the fall that qualify as stupendous 5 star shows. My wish list is an October Fox Theatre box followed one week later by the rest of the August BCT shows in a box save the rest as tent poles to the Dave's Picks series. Vault crack, I know.. but hey I guy can dream, right?

I would settle with a 1972 Dave's Picks 32. That would be grand.

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So we started at 12,000 and now we are at 20,000 a year. How do you make it jump to 21,000 or 22,000 for 2020...... Release a well known show to start the subscription process ..It won't be anything with the Allman Brothers either, because the potential as a stand alone release is much higher. 6/14/76 Beacon Theatre is a good example to start 2020 with or a 2/15/73 Dane County... . Hofheinz Pavilion 11/19/72. Something along those lines to make us all crazy. The fourth show for 2019 when you already close to being sold out, while I hope it is a 1972 show ,is more likely to be a one off show that is awesome but not talked about.... Sorry over served... bob t

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No shipping notice. I called Customer Service they said order WAS CANCELLED!!! I check with my bank the full amount was withdrawn from my account on 8/5. Customer service said I was never charged and I have to dispute it by emailing a screen shot of my account to them. SOOOO They charged me, I have to prove it to them. Still haven't got my order and now the Blu-Ray appears to be unavailable. I'm beyond upset. Every release is a nightmare with this organization...

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Giants blu-ray box sold out just before reaching mailboxes. Wow.

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That blows. Did you pay by paypal? This is the best way for future payments.

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Wow is right.

Doesn't surprise me that much.. hundreds of thousands of people were at these shows.

Garbage? I think not.

PM MaryE or Email Dr. Rhino. I bet they can get it straightened out. Consider buying the DVD perhaps, that will sell out in short order too at this point, especially once people get their first listens and some decide it in fact kicks ass.

I know I just wrote highly of 1972, and meant it.. but there was something in the water in the some of the later years, especially 89 (and 91). I just got of an 80's bender of sorts and it was remarkably refreshing.

Come on in boys.. the water is fine.
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Did you receive an email with an order confirmation #?

Just to be safe when I place orders I also save as pdf a copy of the order confirm page.

I just added a Blu-ray Box to my cart and it didn’t say sold out.

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"D&C is a mere thin and fizzy champagne in comparison." Aptly stated!

No Doubt. I told myself I would never waste my time on them unless somebody offered me a free ticket. I'm going for the third time at the Garden in a couple of months. As my cousin said (and this is the same guy who showed up from Buffalo at my front door unannounced on July 7th 1989 with a JFK ticket for me), " there's no way we're going to get rained out of this one". If you recall I went with him to the Camden New Jersey show and got rained out two songs into the second set. I bitched about it here for a couple of posts and then moved on.

I agree, the 72 shows age like fine wine. I was just thinking that there won't be as many fine wine connoisseurs in demand of these shows in another five years. Doesn't mean the wines getting any worse, just means the demand for it getting less. I hope I'm right and that Pinkus and Lemieux are thinking along those lines, only because I'm selfish and I want them released as soon.

I've been enjoying the live stuff from January of 69 that was released with the anniversary edition of Aoxomoxoa. Clementine, Alligator, New Potato Caboose. There are many factors of course, but the difference in sounds from eta to era Thai in so largely to Jerry's guitar and rig. I absolutely love the Gibson SG. All the great players were using it in 69 & 70: Garcia, Townshend, Mick Taylor, Hendrix.....and later Angus Young. They're the guys I'm most familiar with, I'm sure they were other greats who used it. I was at a store called Woodstock, coincidentally on the anniversary back in August. They had a band playing on the front lawn, and the guitar player was using none other than the classic Gibson SG. I was ten feet from him and took several pictures, as I've never been that close to one that wasn't behind glass.

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I knew that comment would come back and bite me.

Don't get me wrong, I love what D&C are doing and really enjoy seeing them. They are on to something.. but 72 has some of the better moments the band ever did. I meant this as more praise for 72 than a detraction for what's going on now.

Besides.. I like champagne, just not as much as a good vintage Bordeaux or Burgundy.

If that makes sense. I do have a strong respect for what the boys are doing now and am so appreciative and grateful they are still out there doing it. Wish ticket prices were a bit lower, I like to be in the pit.

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GD72 is the Sun
D&C is Pluto

part of the same system, each with its charms

GD72 is the POWERHOUSE
D&C is interesting

only 8 years old in 72, so I didn't attend shows that year
55 years old at 1st D&C show this past June. It was nice.

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Blu Ray Limited Edition # 590 of !0,000. Looks great, Playing the 87 concert right now.

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when I got home today, and it is very nice. What a nice little package, all box sets should be this size. Glad I did not not order. Can't wait to dive into this baby, 91 is one of my favorite years and with Bruce, that makes it a seven man band. gimme, gimme, gimme, slobber>drool. Got the entire weekend to relish this beauty, ahhhhh, I wonder what the poor people are doing this fine day. I think I will sit back and crack a cold one and roll up a big fatty and enjoy this flashback. To compare D&C to the Grateful Dead is just.....wrong. After I listen to this a few times, I will report my findings.

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I love these buy n forget, no stress Grateful Dead gems that are announced with a faint knock by U.P.S. Ground. If my music was on I may have missed the single knock or was it the sound of the 12x8x3.5 box hitting the ground and bottom of door. I was one of the "No Tracking Numbers" recieved this time too. After a brief review of the contents I must say, if all the disc play glitch-free "This box may be the most UserFriendly offered to us yet".

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258 still available as of a couple minutes ago

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I enjoyed your post, no hauntings here. Upon review of what I wrote, I probably didn't express my sentiment too clearly. I was conjecturing that the popularity of Dead & Co was helping overall Vault recording sales, including the vintage 1972.

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