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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • DeadVikes
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    Thanks for the info guys 👍
    So we are talking 24 bit. I think I got it.
    I love to learn new things, especially with audio and the good old Grateful Dead!

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    Deadvikes,

    True HD is a lossless audio format while standard DD and DTS found on standard DVD are lossy. This is the biggest attraction of the blu ray vs the DVD.

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    Thanks for the dvd input, guys!

    Gonna have to pull the trigger...

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    Agree with you on the picture quality of this Blu-ray, but I would say we have had past Dead DVD releases in surround sound. I believe Trucking up to Buffalo, CW&I, View from the Vault 4, Dead Head and Closing of Winterland all had 5.1 surround options.
    However, I did notice this release has the Tru HD 5.1. How is this different than the old 5.1 surround?

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    Unfortunately I believe the concerts were shot in 480, or standard definition video, not film. Though they can spruce them up a bit they cannot overcome that limitation. So though it is on Blu-ray, it’s not going to be full 1080P resolution....
    It’s like if you copied a Cassette tape to hi res digital, it might be an improvement, but it’s not going to be real hi res.
    FYI, the audio might actually be much better on the Blu-ray than DVD. The best you can get on DVD is Dolby digital. On Blu-ray you can get DTS Master Audio or Dolby True HD depending on how it was mastered and if everything is set up right it is way better!
    People get all hung up about video, and a well mastered disc can look amazing, but I’ve seen bad mastered Blu-ray’s that look worse then some well done DVDs....the real secret is the Audio on Blu-ray! Im not usually big on surround sound for concert videos so I’m really looking forward to hearing this one in hi res stereo! So the big difference here is not the video quality, but the Audio on Blu-ray versus DVD.

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    Are you selling these or is Stanley selling these? I don't understand whst you mean when you ssy you made a phone call to let these go.

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    Something is rotten in Denmark with this stuff. ...
    Lebowski99, I have the Blu-ray, the picture is good, but not remarkably better than all the past Dead DVD releases. The real joy in this one is the surround sound mix, which is the same in the DVD and Blu-ray. The surround sound mix absolutely kicks ass, so good. Crank it loud if you can.
    When I then put the CD in, it standard two channel, it was a huge difference.

    Go for it, you will love it!

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    ART B O X S E T ***** ONLY 21 Left...

    ...art Box Set / Stanley Mouse ***ONLY 21 LEFT my brothers & sisters! Pick your own number while. They last , they Are Built To Last! beautifulCollecgion. Don’t pass this Grateful opportunity pass you up ! Peace be with you All! 🙏❤️🌹💀😗💨

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    Rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb!

    Simmer down there little buddy. I never said you were the blind man who ripped me off on the internet. My post was a general warning to all about buying stuff from people they don’t know on the internet, especially from blind men, or when things just don’t seem to add up. I’m not sure why you took it so personally? I will continue to pray for you, especially after your recent posts. I’m really worried about you!

    That being said, I’m glad you spoke up so quickly. I didn’t want there to be any confusion and you have fully eliminated any worries about that. Thank you, everyone will be better off because of this!!!

    Since you poured the wine for me and tightened up my shoes, I’d hate to leave you sittin’ there composing lonesome blues....

    This box set is primo...eh? I’ve been absorbing it nicely...these lyrics stuck out to me yesterday:

    Strikes morning; the atomic dawn,
    Scramble back to cover.
    Quick, pop your mirrored sunglasses on,
    My little leather-winged lover.
    I see your face printed on my money,
    Your blazin' ways really move me, honey!
    Heart of darkness, Yea yea,
    Why'm I laughing? This ain't funny
    Dark Angel, now just don't start..,
    You'll break my spirit, wreck my heart
    You must have a license for practisin' that art.
    I don't presume to imagine.
    I don't presume to imagine.

    By for now, I’m goin where the winds don’t blow so strange....

    Patty-cakes, hearts and emojis to all!

    KCJ

    Oh and thanks for the link...yes sir you got me good, but it was worth the price of admission to get a front row seat at this shit show. Do me a favor and PM me before your next post so that I can pop some corn.

    My sincerest apologies to everyone else on this board. I think my work here in this regard is complete.

    Lost one round but the price wasn’t anything, a knife in the back and more of the same....

    Same ole

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    DVD version of 6/17

    Still thinking about buying this box. Question to any DVD purchasers, how does the DVD look compared to the 6/14/91 VFTF release way back then? Thanks for any opinions.

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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i woke up to find out my box set arrived with nary a shipping notice just like how i like to receive them. i decided to heat some water on the stove and found out about that bad news. my life would be very different without Robert Hunter's words, and the band would have been a very different band had they decided to go on write their own words as well.

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There were days
And there were days
And there were days between
Summer flies and August dies
The world grows dark and mean
Comes the shimmer of the moon
On black infested trees
The singing man is at his song
The holy on their knees
The reckless are out wrecking
The timid plead their pleas
No one knows much more of this
Than anyone can see...

Thank You Robert--Until Next Time

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Such a beautifully done box set and I cannot wait to get lost in it. Thank you!

Mason died on Monday
We bricked him in the wall
All his children grew and grew
They ain't never grew so tall before
They may never grow so tall again
We dug him up on Tuesday
He hardly aged a day
Taught us all we ever knew
We ain't never knew so much before
We may never know so much again
Mason was a mighty man
A mighty man was he
Always said, "When I'm dead and gone
Don't you weep for me"
The wall collapsed on Wednesday
We chalked it up to fate
All his children ran in fear
They ain't never hear it so well before
Swore they'd never show their face again
Thursday came then Friday
With buyers tall and bright
Mason's children cooked the stew
And cleaned up when the feast was through
Swore they'd never [Incomprehensible] before
Take me to the repo man
To pay back what was owed
If he's in some other land
Write it off as stole
Take me to the repo man
To pay back what was owed
If he's in some other land
Write it off as stole....
Wow. I currently have stew on the stove.

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Spinning American Beauty on the ole' vinyl player. Almost all RH songs. So so good.

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Added more to the Great American songbook than many people realize. Truly one of the greatest lyricists of all time. He will be truly missed and always appreciated.

A lovely view of heaven... but I'd rather be with you. (Inscribed on my wedding band.)

Love

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I came out of my Brazilian jiu jujitsu class this afternoon feeling pretty good. It was a long day at work and so those classes usually help to remedy such things. So when I got in my car I got email from Dead.net in my phone that broke the news. I feel devastated. My life has been largely shaped by Star Wars and the Grateful Dead. There is no doubt that Robert Hunters lyrics guided me through life. Of course this will still be the case for me. Its amazing how some people are just so skilled to be able to create things whether be songs or lyrics that transcend people, places, and time.

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For RH:

Thank you for the positive shaping of my world, for the joys and laughter, for the tears and pain, for the encouragement and advice, for making a better world for all of us. For making it so very real, and so so much fun!

I didn't get into the music, the music got into me...………..

In your honor, 12/18/73 Dark Star...……………..

Rock on, and rest in peace......………………

Doc

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Sad day indeed.

As KF said, the rock stars of the 60’s/70’s are going to keep peeling away.
From coming in 3’s to coming in multiples of 3’s.

Glad that D&C are still playing the songs. Eventually that will end too.

This afternoon I read the Rolling Stone story. I knew, but had forgotten, that Hunter and Dylan had collaborated. I probably should check that out.

A lot of posts today, so this references a post several pages back where I believe it was Jim who asked if Bolo had ever steered us wrong.
Well, I’m still waiting for an explanation of the Liberace reference.....

‘91 in 48 tracks makes you wish it all came that way.

I BOUGHT YOU A PADDLE FOR YOUR PAPER CANOE.

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His words are timeless. Composed for everyone, yet crafted in a manner that allowed each of us to interpret them as our own.

Thank you kind sir.

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When it seems like the night will last forever,
And there's nothing left to do but count the years,
When the strings of my heart begin to sever,
And stones fall from my eyes instead of tears,

You will be my missed. Thanks for it all. Be at peace.

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My Giant’s Stadium box set arrived on the same day as Mr. Hunter’s passing...this box set will have a special personal meaning for me now and will be remembered as the “Special One” In my collection. Thank you for your lyrics of peace to all...RIP RH. I imagine you and Jerry have a lot of catching up to do!

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Don’t you worry anymore.....Thank you for the kind words and for getting me through some of my hardest days Robert Hunter. Say hello to my mom for me if you find the time.

KCJ

Stay strong my friends...Every silver linings gotta touch of grey

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#1) Just off the top of my head there was that time in August 1984. The show that we attended was The Jerry Garcia Band, Caldwell College (8-11-84) and had Bob Hunter as the opener. This venue on school grounds was outdoors and completely wide open all around the back n side stage area. There were speakers set up facing back stage to fill in the sound for the area's ticketless car campers and acts like Bob Hunter got his Chevette parked-in. We had our boom-box on the roof of Hunter's car recording Jerry. Just about when Jerry was ripping' into Cats Down Under the Stars, this high voice started to yell to everyone " Hey Can get your box off my car". Everyone was dancin' and ignored him. Then Hunter got into the rental and went to take off, with box on roof being saved. Man he is high stung!

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but our passionate attempts to say goodbye to Robert make up for it. Onward.

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It's nice to hear this pathetic business can deliver box sets to those who purchased CDs. The digital download however is broken and "Customer Service" is just two words. My credit card was charged well in advance, which would be fine if delivery of the FLAC 192/24 files was as promised. My initial email regarding this issue remains unacknowledged with a second sent this evening. I'm not holding my breath for a response. I also placed two phone calls which did nothing but waste my time. Time to get the credit card companies involved, four days of crickets is enough.

I hear ya man.. and you are justified to be a little miffed.. but hang in there, they will make right on this. Just give them a week or so. You can PM MaryE here too, it will probably help. I am 100% confident you will be made whole. I realize these are hallow words, but we have waited almost 30 years for this and someone screwed up a little.. but I believe we are still inside the official release date by a bit, right? Be patient and give them another week to make good.

Complaining now on these boards won't do much good. It's a somber time.. As for the money grab comment, I respectfully disagree. There aren't huge numbers here. I bet they wish they were.

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it's midnight and im still ripping this box set. i must say i'm surprised to see this one dwindle down in stock so fast, the groans from all the 80's shows from 30 Trips made me think this will be sitting here for a few years like the Spring '90 box sets did. All i can say is the '87 show seems to be of sparkling crystal clarity from what i heard. and am quite glad i have the RFK box set for it makes a nice companion piece to this and i believe it sold out now.

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Cub, i hear ya, But who does that to a strangers car nomatter what their doing?

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....that I cried more today than on August 9th, 1995? Didn't cry when Barlow passed.
Serious question....I'm a mess.

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I was always struck by the generosity of spirit in Robert Hunter's words, which were unique in the context of the other "rock" song lyrics I heard in the 1970s. The lyrics to the songs on American Beauty, in particular, seemed to me to have more in common with those found in books of spiritual wisdom, like the Tao Te Ching, rather than those found on other rock albums of the era.

I also think his talent was hidden to some extent, by the fact that his words were sung by Jerry and Bob. I have a tendency to think , when listening to, say Eyes of the World or Playing in the Band ( to pluck two songs out of thin air) that Jerry and Bob are singing their own words, rather than interpreting the words of Robert.

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Ugh, I have never had such bad luck with Dead orders this year -- first I did not get the second to last Dave's Pick with bonus disc -- still waiting on that.

Now I did not get the giants box set w/ blu ray -- UPS says it was delivered but it was never there -- and now the blu ray is sold out

Dear Dead.net Customer,

We have been advised that there have been issues with the delivery of the Giants Stadium 1987, 1989, 1991 Digital files.

Our digital team is currently fixing this issue and will redeliver your files within the next 3 business days.

You will receive an email from Dead.net with further instructions on how to download your updated files.

Upon completion, you will have the correct number of shows that you ordered, at the correct bit rate.

We are very sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

Sincerely,

Dead.net Customer Service

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Thank you Robert. Thank you for taking a piece of your personal life, which I know through interviews you wrre a very private man, and sharing them with us for the benefit of all. Life gave you an opportunity to step up and be a giver with your gift, and you accepted that opportunity with grace and humility. God bless you.

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Wow! Great shows...I was at all of them...brought me back! Thx for making them available✌

Fare you well, Robert...I've been blessed to have been going to shows since 1980 so I've definitely enjoyed your music for a very long time. With loads of love, peace and appreciation...fly on the wings of angels...❤😇✌

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Trying to find answers and solace....as I was listening to the 7/10/89 show coming in to work today, and it got to the end of Uncle John's Band, it suddenly struck me that I HAD HEARD THIS ALL BEFORE:

As it heads into the final refrain after the last lyrics, the song dissipates into a somewhat spacey jam which is none other that the "Riverside Rhapsody" track from 'Infrared Roses', that sneaky album released in late 1991 that only encompasses drums and space tracks. Incidentally, on that CD, "Riverside Rhapsody" is among the only tracks wherein you can actually hear a melody from an actual song - most of the others are literally snippets and unless you have an amazing penchant for this sort of identification, it's fairly tricky to pinpoint which show they are being pulled from.

Anyway, just thought I'd toss that tidbit out there for anyone else who may find this sort of 'gem finding' of value - even as we mourn our dear poet and inspiration.

Sixtus

Amazing catch Sixtus.. and an under-rated, fun album. The late era drums/space could be amazing under the right conditions.

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I haven't listened to the '89 shows yet, but while scanning through the book from the box I did notice that they reference the same Infrared Roses connection with the 7/10/89 UJB that Sixtus points out. Nice catch Sixtus. Planning on spinning that show later today but the chance of me connecting something to Infrared Roses after all these years was likely pretty low without the heads up.

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That may be the most inspiring lyric for me personally. It makes me feel both spiritually connected to it all, while inspired to fully comprehend "it".

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My sincere condolences to the Hunter Family as well as the Grateful Dead Family.

As the Grateful Dead Community Family we at least have Mr. Hunter's lyrics, poetry and prose to console us...

'You took me (us) to the farthest stars
and Shakedown Street's grimy bars...'

For that good Sir I thank you...sometimes there aren't enough words.

Agree, what a cool line. It's one of the few things Hunter reveals too..
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"I was very impressed with T.S. Eliot around the time I was writing Dark Star," Hunter said, and one line was clearly influenced by a line in 'The Love Song of J Alfred Prufrock' - "Let us go then, you and I, when the evening is spread out against the sky." "Beyond that, that's just my kind of imagery.... I don't have any idea what the 'transitive nightfall of diamonds' means. It sounded good at the time. It brings up something that you can see."
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So it's one of those lines that pretty much means exactly what you want it to mean.

I got that quote from David Dodd's Greatest Stories Ever Told. I used to read that blog every month, and miss it. I also liked Blair Jacksons blog.. but the name escapes me. It's been years since Rhino sponsored any of that stuff.

https://www.dead.net/features/greatest-stories-ever-told/greatest-stori…

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Goin' home, goin' home, by the riverside i will rest my bones,
Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul.

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That is an interesting find, the 'Unfinished Album' placeholder - and from none other than GD Productions, so we know it's likely not a knockoff.

Now, how one may find such a gem embedded within the bowels of AMAZON, I have no idea. Most impressive.

I also found this when doing a bit of sleuthing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfinished_Grateful_Dead_album

And it looks like a few others would be left out, including 'Childhood's End' and 'If the Shoe Fits'....each of which I have only heard one time.

Again, the words of Hunter are all over this - which is fitting.

I always loved 'Lazy River Road'. Truly invokes the 'Hunteresque' notions of his most famous lore.

Sixtus

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So many to choose from, but the first one to come to mind is one a friend pointed out to me 46 years ago:
Nine mile skid on a 10 mile ride, hot as a pistol but cool inside

R.I.P. indeed Robert

Rock on

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In 2003 I bought the book, Box Of Rain. It has the lyrics of ALL of Robert's song through 2003.
I just looked on Amazon today for this. New copy is $400!!!
Boy am I glad I got mine when it was "normal" price

Rock on

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