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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • Charlie3
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    Era Preferences

    Generally I listen to stuff from '69-'78, but I like it all. There are some songs that only appear on the later era releases, so that makes them essential for me. I find what some consider to be distracting deterioration of Jerry's voice can be a poignant addition to songs like Black Peter. Time is gonna crush us all, and Jerry was no exception, it's not like he would have lived forever if he was a teetotaler, so for me the voice is just what it is, not a catastrophe. There are several other songs, like Shakedown, Crazy Fingers and West LA Fadeaway that I enjoy and that are pretty much only on later era releases like this one, and there are some later era Eyes that are stellar, the one with Branford Marsalis on the Nassau '90 Wake Up to Find Out release comes to mind. And if the sound of the multi-track Spring 1990 TOO box is any indication, the sound in this box should be spectacular, I mean honestly, it seems like anything with multi-track source material should be on the short list for consideration as an official release.

    My first show of any kind was JGB at Orange County Community College in Middletown, NY in August '84, dropped with my younger brother about an hour before we had to leave to catch our ride to the show, and as we walked out the door my dad got home from work, looked at us and simply said "have a good trip". We always wondered if it was an intentional choice of words. To clarify, dad did not a party and we had spent a good portion of our teen years in conflict with our parents over our use of intoxicants of one variety or another, so the comment just struck us as interesting. First Dead show was that fall, second night at Worcester, MA in October '84. In hindsight, I should have budgeted some money for food for that three day road trip from Easton, PA.

    For the folks that just don't dig later era dead, that's cool as well, understandable and very different vibe to see someone saying they'll pass and leave it for someone who really wants it, as opposed to the posting of gratuitous insults directed at the release or other posters. Nice to see the vibe here shifting back to pleasant.

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    Re: Love the band, don't care for the era

    I couldn't agree with you more.. but that's much different than a simple one word reply, "garbage."

    I don't know.. live and let live.

    Opening up a shitstorm just fucks things up for many people here.. I mean, why bother?

  • bob t
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    @keith fan don't forget Down Hill from Here 1989

    Alpine Valley 7/17 and 7/19 for the box set,,,, available in VHS or Beta... limited to 200 and 400 copies..... bob t

    PS Don't forget RFK 7/12 and 7/13 also released

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    I just ordered the '91 show

    I'm 55 - first show was Spring of '78 in Columbus Ohio. Saw them a few times in the 80s/90s. I don't have anything against that era or these shows, but I doubt if this box would get much play if I ordered it. I've subscribed to Dave's picks since the beginning and I have most of the boxed sets, including 30 Trips and complete Europe 72. I'm pretty set with Dead release. And while I enjoyed all of the 80s/90s shows I saw, I spend most of my time listening to '70 to '78. its just a personal preference. I still look forward to seeing the next one

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    Might as Well (take that ride again)

    Hard to believe but I’ve been here for 47 years. First show and last show were at Giants: 7/10/89 and 6/17/91. Both were revelatory for me, but the last show is the one where I learned that there was a community and that even a 19 year old kid (or anybody, everybody) had a contribution to something greater. I’m fortunate to have found music that resonates so well with me personally and that folks that I’ll never meet have taken the time and effort to put it out there where it can be heard again and again.

    Strange to think something so profound can happen in a big stadium... It goes to show you never can tell. 🎵

  • KeithFan2112
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    Yo Dennis

    Love ya bro, good to be back. Had some major house in car issues. Fun fun fun!

    The Hoffa joke went over like a Led balloon. Too soon?

    Bulid-A-Box

    Truckin Up To Buffalo 7/4/89
    Crimson White & Indigo 7/7/89
    Giant Stadium 7/9/89
    Giant Stadium 7/10/89

    Ta-da

  • redemption searcher
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    Dylan '87

    Seems a bummer that the '87 show is not including any of the 3rd set Dylan stuff and is the incomplete show in the box. Otherwise does look great and the Giants '89 were my very first shows.

  • boblopes
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    Multiple Mini Box Sets celebrating anniversaries every year.

    I understand the challenges of releases pre Betty's return, but now with the empty shelves filled in the vault, why not release mini box on special anniversary years (50th, 45th, 40th, 35th, 30th).

    Release it around the show date.
    So next year, for example, we could possibly get those 70 Fillmore East shows, those 80 Warfield RCMH, 85 Saratoga / Hershey, 90 Europe. Obviously four box sets is too much but do you get my point?

    That way maybe everybody wins - those that want one era, one that wants the other and the ones that want them all.

    I do like the concept of the Giant's box - how about a Greek Box then a Boston Garden box in the future ;)

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    I have not been checking in on these boards for a few years, but as soon as I got the notice, I thought of Space and Seth. Very happy for you both. The 80’s were my touring heydays, but for many years, not my go-to listening choice. Maybe as I try to hang onto the tales from the road, I have become less critical of the shortcomings. I just enjoy the music. The ‘87 show in this box is my audio postcard to a great day with friends and a very fun show. The cascade of humanity pouring over the wall onto the field during Ramble on Rose will not come through on the speakers, but I smile every time I hear it. Buy it if you need it or leave it if you dare...

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    Cleveland, Ohio Aug 1980...16 years old...pulled the old, "I'm-sleeping-over-a-friends-house-tonight" trick on the parents...still have the stub!

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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i woke up to find out my box set arrived with nary a shipping notice just like how i like to receive them. i decided to heat some water on the stove and found out about that bad news. my life would be very different without Robert Hunter's words, and the band would have been a very different band had they decided to go on write their own words as well.

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There were days
And there were days
And there were days between
Summer flies and August dies
The world grows dark and mean
Comes the shimmer of the moon
On black infested trees
The singing man is at his song
The holy on their knees
The reckless are out wrecking
The timid plead their pleas
No one knows much more of this
Than anyone can see...

Thank You Robert--Until Next Time

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Such a beautifully done box set and I cannot wait to get lost in it. Thank you!

Mason died on Monday
We bricked him in the wall
All his children grew and grew
They ain't never grew so tall before
They may never grow so tall again
We dug him up on Tuesday
He hardly aged a day
Taught us all we ever knew
We ain't never knew so much before
We may never know so much again
Mason was a mighty man
A mighty man was he
Always said, "When I'm dead and gone
Don't you weep for me"
The wall collapsed on Wednesday
We chalked it up to fate
All his children ran in fear
They ain't never hear it so well before
Swore they'd never show their face again
Thursday came then Friday
With buyers tall and bright
Mason's children cooked the stew
And cleaned up when the feast was through
Swore they'd never [Incomprehensible] before
Take me to the repo man
To pay back what was owed
If he's in some other land
Write it off as stole
Take me to the repo man
To pay back what was owed
If he's in some other land
Write it off as stole....
Wow. I currently have stew on the stove.

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Spinning American Beauty on the ole' vinyl player. Almost all RH songs. So so good.

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Added more to the Great American songbook than many people realize. Truly one of the greatest lyricists of all time. He will be truly missed and always appreciated.

A lovely view of heaven... but I'd rather be with you. (Inscribed on my wedding band.)

Love

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I came out of my Brazilian jiu jujitsu class this afternoon feeling pretty good. It was a long day at work and so those classes usually help to remedy such things. So when I got in my car I got email from Dead.net in my phone that broke the news. I feel devastated. My life has been largely shaped by Star Wars and the Grateful Dead. There is no doubt that Robert Hunters lyrics guided me through life. Of course this will still be the case for me. Its amazing how some people are just so skilled to be able to create things whether be songs or lyrics that transcend people, places, and time.

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For RH:

Thank you for the positive shaping of my world, for the joys and laughter, for the tears and pain, for the encouragement and advice, for making a better world for all of us. For making it so very real, and so so much fun!

I didn't get into the music, the music got into me...………..

In your honor, 12/18/73 Dark Star...……………..

Rock on, and rest in peace......………………

Doc

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Sad day indeed.

As KF said, the rock stars of the 60’s/70’s are going to keep peeling away.
From coming in 3’s to coming in multiples of 3’s.

Glad that D&C are still playing the songs. Eventually that will end too.

This afternoon I read the Rolling Stone story. I knew, but had forgotten, that Hunter and Dylan had collaborated. I probably should check that out.

A lot of posts today, so this references a post several pages back where I believe it was Jim who asked if Bolo had ever steered us wrong.
Well, I’m still waiting for an explanation of the Liberace reference.....

‘91 in 48 tracks makes you wish it all came that way.

I BOUGHT YOU A PADDLE FOR YOUR PAPER CANOE.

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His words are timeless. Composed for everyone, yet crafted in a manner that allowed each of us to interpret them as our own.

Thank you kind sir.

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When it seems like the night will last forever,
And there's nothing left to do but count the years,
When the strings of my heart begin to sever,
And stones fall from my eyes instead of tears,

You will be my missed. Thanks for it all. Be at peace.

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My Giant’s Stadium box set arrived on the same day as Mr. Hunter’s passing...this box set will have a special personal meaning for me now and will be remembered as the “Special One” In my collection. Thank you for your lyrics of peace to all...RIP RH. I imagine you and Jerry have a lot of catching up to do!

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Don’t you worry anymore.....Thank you for the kind words and for getting me through some of my hardest days Robert Hunter. Say hello to my mom for me if you find the time.

KCJ

Stay strong my friends...Every silver linings gotta touch of grey

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#1) Just off the top of my head there was that time in August 1984. The show that we attended was The Jerry Garcia Band, Caldwell College (8-11-84) and had Bob Hunter as the opener. This venue on school grounds was outdoors and completely wide open all around the back n side stage area. There were speakers set up facing back stage to fill in the sound for the area's ticketless car campers and acts like Bob Hunter got his Chevette parked-in. We had our boom-box on the roof of Hunter's car recording Jerry. Just about when Jerry was ripping' into Cats Down Under the Stars, this high voice started to yell to everyone " Hey Can get your box off my car". Everyone was dancin' and ignored him. Then Hunter got into the rental and went to take off, with box on roof being saved. Man he is high stung!

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but our passionate attempts to say goodbye to Robert make up for it. Onward.

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It's nice to hear this pathetic business can deliver box sets to those who purchased CDs. The digital download however is broken and "Customer Service" is just two words. My credit card was charged well in advance, which would be fine if delivery of the FLAC 192/24 files was as promised. My initial email regarding this issue remains unacknowledged with a second sent this evening. I'm not holding my breath for a response. I also placed two phone calls which did nothing but waste my time. Time to get the credit card companies involved, four days of crickets is enough.

I hear ya man.. and you are justified to be a little miffed.. but hang in there, they will make right on this. Just give them a week or so. You can PM MaryE here too, it will probably help. I am 100% confident you will be made whole. I realize these are hallow words, but we have waited almost 30 years for this and someone screwed up a little.. but I believe we are still inside the official release date by a bit, right? Be patient and give them another week to make good.

Complaining now on these boards won't do much good. It's a somber time.. As for the money grab comment, I respectfully disagree. There aren't huge numbers here. I bet they wish they were.

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it's midnight and im still ripping this box set. i must say i'm surprised to see this one dwindle down in stock so fast, the groans from all the 80's shows from 30 Trips made me think this will be sitting here for a few years like the Spring '90 box sets did. All i can say is the '87 show seems to be of sparkling crystal clarity from what i heard. and am quite glad i have the RFK box set for it makes a nice companion piece to this and i believe it sold out now.

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Cub, i hear ya, But who does that to a strangers car nomatter what their doing?

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....that I cried more today than on August 9th, 1995? Didn't cry when Barlow passed.
Serious question....I'm a mess.

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I was always struck by the generosity of spirit in Robert Hunter's words, which were unique in the context of the other "rock" song lyrics I heard in the 1970s. The lyrics to the songs on American Beauty, in particular, seemed to me to have more in common with those found in books of spiritual wisdom, like the Tao Te Ching, rather than those found on other rock albums of the era.

I also think his talent was hidden to some extent, by the fact that his words were sung by Jerry and Bob. I have a tendency to think , when listening to, say Eyes of the World or Playing in the Band ( to pluck two songs out of thin air) that Jerry and Bob are singing their own words, rather than interpreting the words of Robert.

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Ugh, I have never had such bad luck with Dead orders this year -- first I did not get the second to last Dave's Pick with bonus disc -- still waiting on that.

Now I did not get the giants box set w/ blu ray -- UPS says it was delivered but it was never there -- and now the blu ray is sold out

Dear Dead.net Customer,

We have been advised that there have been issues with the delivery of the Giants Stadium 1987, 1989, 1991 Digital files.

Our digital team is currently fixing this issue and will redeliver your files within the next 3 business days.

You will receive an email from Dead.net with further instructions on how to download your updated files.

Upon completion, you will have the correct number of shows that you ordered, at the correct bit rate.

We are very sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

Sincerely,

Dead.net Customer Service

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Thank you Robert. Thank you for taking a piece of your personal life, which I know through interviews you wrre a very private man, and sharing them with us for the benefit of all. Life gave you an opportunity to step up and be a giver with your gift, and you accepted that opportunity with grace and humility. God bless you.

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Wow! Great shows...I was at all of them...brought me back! Thx for making them available✌

Fare you well, Robert...I've been blessed to have been going to shows since 1980 so I've definitely enjoyed your music for a very long time. With loads of love, peace and appreciation...fly on the wings of angels...❤😇✌

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Trying to find answers and solace....as I was listening to the 7/10/89 show coming in to work today, and it got to the end of Uncle John's Band, it suddenly struck me that I HAD HEARD THIS ALL BEFORE:

As it heads into the final refrain after the last lyrics, the song dissipates into a somewhat spacey jam which is none other that the "Riverside Rhapsody" track from 'Infrared Roses', that sneaky album released in late 1991 that only encompasses drums and space tracks. Incidentally, on that CD, "Riverside Rhapsody" is among the only tracks wherein you can actually hear a melody from an actual song - most of the others are literally snippets and unless you have an amazing penchant for this sort of identification, it's fairly tricky to pinpoint which show they are being pulled from.

Anyway, just thought I'd toss that tidbit out there for anyone else who may find this sort of 'gem finding' of value - even as we mourn our dear poet and inspiration.

Sixtus

Amazing catch Sixtus.. and an under-rated, fun album. The late era drums/space could be amazing under the right conditions.

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I haven't listened to the '89 shows yet, but while scanning through the book from the box I did notice that they reference the same Infrared Roses connection with the 7/10/89 UJB that Sixtus points out. Nice catch Sixtus. Planning on spinning that show later today but the chance of me connecting something to Infrared Roses after all these years was likely pretty low without the heads up.

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That may be the most inspiring lyric for me personally. It makes me feel both spiritually connected to it all, while inspired to fully comprehend "it".

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My sincere condolences to the Hunter Family as well as the Grateful Dead Family.

As the Grateful Dead Community Family we at least have Mr. Hunter's lyrics, poetry and prose to console us...

'You took me (us) to the farthest stars
and Shakedown Street's grimy bars...'

For that good Sir I thank you...sometimes there aren't enough words.

Agree, what a cool line. It's one of the few things Hunter reveals too..
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"I was very impressed with T.S. Eliot around the time I was writing Dark Star," Hunter said, and one line was clearly influenced by a line in 'The Love Song of J Alfred Prufrock' - "Let us go then, you and I, when the evening is spread out against the sky." "Beyond that, that's just my kind of imagery.... I don't have any idea what the 'transitive nightfall of diamonds' means. It sounded good at the time. It brings up something that you can see."
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So it's one of those lines that pretty much means exactly what you want it to mean.

I got that quote from David Dodd's Greatest Stories Ever Told. I used to read that blog every month, and miss it. I also liked Blair Jacksons blog.. but the name escapes me. It's been years since Rhino sponsored any of that stuff.

https://www.dead.net/features/greatest-stories-ever-told/greatest-stori…

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Goin' home, goin' home, by the riverside i will rest my bones,
Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul.

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That is an interesting find, the 'Unfinished Album' placeholder - and from none other than GD Productions, so we know it's likely not a knockoff.

Now, how one may find such a gem embedded within the bowels of AMAZON, I have no idea. Most impressive.

I also found this when doing a bit of sleuthing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfinished_Grateful_Dead_album

And it looks like a few others would be left out, including 'Childhood's End' and 'If the Shoe Fits'....each of which I have only heard one time.

Again, the words of Hunter are all over this - which is fitting.

I always loved 'Lazy River Road'. Truly invokes the 'Hunteresque' notions of his most famous lore.

Sixtus

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So many to choose from, but the first one to come to mind is one a friend pointed out to me 46 years ago:
Nine mile skid on a 10 mile ride, hot as a pistol but cool inside

R.I.P. indeed Robert

Rock on

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In 2003 I bought the book, Box Of Rain. It has the lyrics of ALL of Robert's song through 2003.
I just looked on Amazon today for this. New copy is $400!!!
Boy am I glad I got mine when it was "normal" price

Rock on

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