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    In one of the other topics, one of the folks seemed not to be so sure of the reception he'd get for saying he was a youth minister at his church. In my experience, Deadheads span the full spectrum from Agnostic to Zoroastrian. I've met atheist Deadheads, Muslim Deadheads, Buddhist Deadheads, Catholic Deadheads, Jewish Deadheads, and Wiccan Deadheads. My Deadhead friends are all over the map on this stuff, and as far as I'm concerned one of the real richnesses of the scene is the ability to see how things look to other folks and, sometimes, experience it from their world. Believe it if you need it, if you don't, just pass it on. But talk about it here, and please maintain a safe respectful place to do so.

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  • Eric Abrahamson
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    Thanks, for getting me to the right place; I agree with Mr. Pid and cosmicbadger, lamagonzo, solly Cholly....Look at British physicist Stephen Hawkings' new book, "The Grand Design" about the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago. I'm an ex-fundie myself, 1972-5, am I sorry! The Stones called two albums ago "A Bigger Bang". Atheists.com.
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    The Biblical Symbolics of the Grateful Dead
    Hey Jman...I thnk I said that in my best Three Stooges Voice when I read that lol. Anyway, I was just looking at the anotated lyrics of the Grateful Dead site (a wealth of info) on Robert Hunter lyrics and was reading the significance of Biblical references and symbolics within the GD music. Here's the link...thought it was relevant. http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/agdl/miller.html Love is real! ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥
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    yup
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  • cosmicbadger
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    smitten
    so is it possible to love someone while smiting them and exchanging eyes and teeth with them? Maybe it is. I guess that's what makes the Old Testament a bit of a challenge for Christians? Great stories, but all a bit brutal. Maybe even the Greatest Story Ever Told.
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    the Christian doctrine says...love thy enemy........ do it not?
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    your enemies in the name of your god seems to be an all too common thread among religions, unfortunately. The very second you attempt to require that others believe as you do is when the legitimacy of your right to believe as you do ceases. By all means, believe in any god you want to, feel free to live by any rules dictated by that god so long as they apply only to you, just don't expect anyone else to. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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    old teastament role play
    interesting need to check this out before i comment although im pulled towards explotation lol
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    Old Testament Role Play
    Bible enthusiasts can now adopt a character from the Old Testament and smite their enemies in an online game! http://thebible-onlinegame.com/ education, exploitation, spiritual quest or just a bit of fun?
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    Thanks for the post!
    I've been hearing the Bible in Dead songs for years. I once delivered a reflection at church where I used Eyes of the World to help tell the story of Jesus' healing of the blind man. My personal feeling is that some of the references are not necessarily intentional but I think others are. I have felt for some time that both Barlow and Hunter know the Bible pretty darn well! I'm not suggesting that the guys were necessarily trying to teach Christian dogma but they were expressing some universal truths that many can identify with on some level. The interesting thing is that Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, agnostics and atheists have all been moved by this music!
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    in the wrong topic and moved here. Here is a document called The Gospel According to the Grateful Dead (by David Smith of wisedyes.com - check out his awesome tie dyes). It creatively seeks to explain the Gospel message of Jesus using Grateful Dead song lyrics and Scripture! I'm not sure that Hunter, Garcia, Weir, Barlow, and the Grateful Dead intentionally wrote lyrics with the Bible in mind. However, there's no denying that God is sovereign and in complete control and that there are Biblical principles and themes in some of their lyrics. I have spent my life, seeking all that’s left unsung, Bent my ear to hear the tune, And closed my eyes to see ~Attics of My Life We’re all looking for answers. We all want to know the truth. Sometimes it seems within our grasp, and then it slips away. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me, Other times I can barely see, Lately it occurs to me, What a long strange trip it’s been ~Truckin’ But the truth does exist. Love is real. It is the most powerful force in the universe. And while we are seeking Love, Love is seeking us. Love desires to reveal itself to us. Let us be open to that love. Once in awhile you get shown the Light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right ~Scarlet Begonias God is love. God is truth. God knows you intimately and wants you to know Him. He wants to commune with you now, right where you are. Through dreams, visions, prophecy, and other forms of inspiration God has spoken to countless people over the centuries. The concept of a supreme God has existed for centuries in hundreds of cultures throughout the world. In fact, He may have already been speaking to you. Through the words and music of Robert Hunter/Jerry Garcia and John Barlow/Bob Weir the God of all creation has planted his Word. Listen carefully to what has been said. If my words did glow, with the gold of sunshine, And my tunes were played on the harp unstrung, Would you hear my voice come through the music, would you hold it near, as if it were you own? ~Ripple Can’t you hear God’s voice pleading with you to be heard? Listen. These are living words! Open you heart. What’s to be found, racing around, You carry your pain wherever you go. The Black-throated wind, whispering sin, And it speaks of a life that passes like dew ~Black-Throated Wind Some days the gales are howling, Some days the sea is still as glass, You’re a lost sailor, You’ve been too long at sea ~Lost Sailor Without God we’re all lost. We’re like sheep without a shepherd. Was it you I heard singin’ while I was chasing dreams? Driven by the wind, like the dust that blows around, Well, I never know, just don’t know ~Saint of Circumstance Reach out your hand if your cup be empty ~Ripple God is calling you. He loves you more than you can imagine. All the searching can be over. God wants to forgive you and cleanse you and make you whole. You must come to Him and admit your need. Confess your errors to God and trust Him to answer you. I told Althea I was feeling lost, Lacking in some direction ~Althea You’re playing cold music on the barroom floor, drowned in your laughter and dead to the core, If Mercy’s in business, I wish it for you ~Fire on the Mountain But I’ll get back on my feet someday, the good Lord willing, if He says I may, I know that the life I’m living’s no good, I’ll get a new start, live the life I should ~Wharf Rat Maybe you’ll find direction around some corner where it’s been waiting to meet you Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare ~Box of Rain Only God can fill this void. Without Him we can never be completely whole. Be honest with yourself. Isn’t something missing? Wouldn’t you like to know why you’re here? Wouldn’t you like for your life to have meaning and purpose? God understands. He stands at the door of your heart knocking. Let him in. Receive the Truth. If your cup is full, may it be again ~Ripple Perhaps you’ve been more fortunate. Maybe you’ve already discovered the power of love. What have your placed your faith in? Some folks trust to reason, others trust to might, I don’t trust to nothing , but I know it come out right ~Playin’ in the Band Small wheel turning by the fire and rod, Big wheel turning by the grace of God ~The Wheel Don't you realize how kind, tolerant, and patient God is with you? Or don't you care? Can't you see how kind he has been in giving you time to turn from your sin? (Romans 2:4) This power that guides all life is more than impersonal energy. This “force” that keeps your life flowing is intimate and personal. It loves you and desires to be loved. Recall all the times you have sensed God’s hand. See here how everything leads up to this day, And its just like any other day that’s every been. ~Black Peter In earlier days He permitted all the nations to go their own ways, but He never left himself without a witness. There were always his reminders, such as sending you rain and good crops and giving you food and joyful hearts. (Acts 14:16-17) Let it be known there is a fountain That was not made by the hands of man There is a road, no simple highway Between the dawn and the dark of night ~Ripple God loves us so much that He became flesh and came down from heaven to live among us. You know the story. Jesus taught us, healed us, and loved us like no other man in all of history. Jesus said He is the fountain. He said He is the road to life. He said “The Father and I are one.” There is no other! “Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. For the Scriptures declare that rivers of living water will flow from the heart of those who believe in me.” -Jesus (John 7:38) "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.” -Jesus (Matthew 7:13-14) Jesus often referred to God as Father. God is Spirit, and without a physical body. The significance is that God is personal and can be known. He is more than a force or energy. Electricity is a powerful force. Heat is a source of energy. God is merciful, kind, and loving. He hears our prayers and responds. He rejoices when we do well and grieves when we sin. Don’t confuse the Creator with the creation. The incredible beauty and balance of the planet are evidence of a thoughtful and loving Father. What shall we say, shall we call it by a name And listen to the thunder shout I am, I am, I am, I am ~Let it Grow And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.” (Exodus 3:14) Jesus said… "…I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.” (John 6:35) "…I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life." (John 8:12) "…I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep.” (John 10:11) "…I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.” (John 11:25) "…I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” (John 14:6) "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last." (Revelation 22:13) "…Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." (John 8:58) In order that we might know God more perfectly, He sent Jesus into this world. As the first born of all creation, He was given all authority over heaven and earth. We therefore must know Jesus if we are to know God fully and completely. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. (John 1:3) For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. (Colossians 1:16) And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.” (Matthew 28:18) And they were astonished at His teaching, for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes. (Mark 1:22) A decision to follow Christ is one you must make alone. Don’t be swayed by the behavior of some other human being. Your wife, your husband, and your friends all must make their own decision. This one is between you and God. And if you go, no one may follow That path is for your steps alone. ~Ripple Now the shore-lights beckon Yeah there's a price for being free. ~Lost Sailor The price for your freedom has already been paid for. It is our pride, our rebellion, our sin that separates us from intimately knowing God. Jesus willingly suffered the agony of the cross to pay for our guilt. If a man among you, got no sin upon his hand Let him cast a stone at me for playing in the band. ~Playing in the Band What is a man Deep down inside But a raging beast With nothing to hide ~Passenger Even the purest of romantics compromise What fixation feeds this fever Am I living truth or rank deceiver ~Victim or the Crime For you know that God paid a ransom to save you from the empty life you inherited from your ancestors. And the ransom he paid was not mere gold or silver. He paid for you with the precious lifeblood of Christ, the sinless, spotless Lamb of God. (1 Peter 1:18-19 NLT) Old men sing about their dreams Women laugh and children scream And the band keeps playing on Sun went down in honey And the moon came up in wine You know stars were spinning dizzy Lord the band kept us so busy We forgot about the time ~The Music Never Stopped “In the last days, God said, I will pour out my Spirit upon all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams. In those days I will pour out my Spirit upon all my servants, men and women alike, and they will prophesy. And I will cause wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below- blood and fire and clouds of smoke. The sun will be turned into darkness, and the moon will turn bloodred, before that great and glorious day of the Lord arrives. And anyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. “ (Acts 2:17-21 NLT) Shall we go, you and I, while we can? ~Dark Star I got a feelin' there's no time to lose No time to lose ~Saint of Circumstance Please don’t put off this decision to follow and serve Jesus. God loves you and wants you right now – just the way you are! There really is a devil who wants nothing better than for you to postpone this decision. He is a liar and a thief and a murderer. Is there anything a man don't stand to lose When the devil wants to take it all away ~Mexicali Blues And if he catches up with me I'll spend my life in jail ~Friend of the Devil A secret incantation, candle burning blue We'll consult the spirits, maybe they'll know what to do ~I Need A Miracle …For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. (2 Corinthians 11:14) Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. (1 John 4:1) “For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great miraculous signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God's chosen ones.” -Jesus (Matthew 24:24 NLT) All these trials soon be past Look for something built to last Built to last till time itself falls tumbling from the wall Built to last till sunshine fails and darkness moves on all ~Built to Last “Heaven and earth will disappear, but my words will remain forever.” -Jesus (Matthew 24:35 NLT) “If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give it up for me, you will find it.” -Jesus (Matthew 10:39 NLT) "Anyone who listens to my teaching and obeys me is wise, like a person who builds a house on solid rock. Though the rain comes in torrents and the floodwaters rise and the winds beat against that house, it won't collapse, because it is built on rock. But anyone who hears my teaching and ignores it is foolish, like a person who builds a house on sand. When the rains and floods come and the winds beat against that house, it will fall with a mighty crash." After Jesus finished speaking, the crowds were amazed at his teaching, for he taught as one who had real authority-quite unlike the teachers of religious law. (Matthew 7:24-29) I want to say to my sisters and my brothers Keep the faith When the storm flies and the wind blows Go on at a steady pace When the battle is fought and the victory's won We can all shout together, we have overcome We'll talk to the Father and the Son When we make it to the promised land ~My Sisters and Brothers Those who live in the shelter of the Most High will find rest in the shadow of the Almighty. This I declare of the Lord: He alone is my refuge, my place of safety; he is my God, and I am trusting him. For he will rescue you from every trap and protect you from the fatal plague. He will shield you with his wings. He will shelter you with his feathers. His faithful promises are your armor and protection. Do not be afraid of the terrors of the night, nor fear the dangers of the day, nor dread the plague that stalks in darkness, nor the disaster that strikes at midday. Though a thousand fall at your side, though ten thousand are dying around you, these evils will not touch you. But you will see it with your eyes; you will see how the wicked are punished. If you make the Lord your refuge, if you make the Most High your shelter, no evil will conquer you; no plague will come near your dwelling. For he orders his angels to protect you wherever you go. They will hold you with their hands to keep you from striking your foot on a stone. You will trample down lions and poisonous snakes; you will crush fierce lions and serpents under your feet! The Lord says, "I will rescue those who love me. I will protect those who trust in my name. When they call on me, I will answer; I will be with them in trouble. I will rescue them and honor them. I will satisfy them with a long life and give them my salvation." (Psalm 91 NLT) Lay down my dear brothers, lay down and take your rest Oh won't you lay your head upon your saviour's breast I love you, oh but Jesus loves you the best ~And We Bid You Goodnight “Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live.” -Jesus (John 5:25) If I knew the way, I would take you home ~Jerry Garcia (Ripple) So many roads I tell you So many roads I know So many roads, so many roads Mountain high, river wide So many roads to ride So many roads, so many roads So many roads I tell you New York to San Francisco So many roads I know All I want is one to take me home From the high road to the low So many roads I know So many roads so many roads ~So Many Roads It may seem to you that there are So Many Roads to ease your soul but there's truly only one way that will take you home. "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” -Jesus (John 14:6) How to Know God and Receive Christ into Your Life 1. Realize that you are a sinner. No matter how good a life we try to live, we still fall miserably short of being a good person. That is because we are all sinners. We all fall short of God’s desire for us to be holy. The Bible says, “No one is good—not even one” (Romans 3:10 NLT). This is because we cannot become who we are supposed to be without Jesus Christ. 2. Recognize that Jesus Christ died on the cross for you. The Bible tells us, “But God showed His great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while were still sinners” (Romans 5:8 NLT). This is the Good News, that God loves us so much that He sent His only Son to die in our place when we least deserved it. 3. Repent of your sin. The Bible tells us to “repent and be converted” (Acts 3:19). The word repent means to change our direction in life. Instead of running from God, we can run toward Him. 4. Receive Jesus Christ into your life. Becoming a Christian is not merely believing some creed or going to church on Sunday. It is having Christ Himself take residence in your life and heart. Jesus said, “Behold, I stand at the door (of your life) and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in . . .” (Revelation 3:20). If you would like to have a relationship with Christ, simply pray this prayer and mean it in your heart: Dear Lord Jesus, I know I am a sinner. I believe you died for my sins. Right now, I turn from my sins and open the door of my heart and life. I confess you as my personal Lord and Savior. Thank you for saving me. Amen. If you just prayed that prayer and meant it, Jesus Christ has now taken residence in your heart! Your decision to follow Christ means God has forgiven you and that you will spend eternity in heaven. The Bible tells us, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9). To put your faith in action, be sure to spend time with God by reading your Bible, praying, going to church, and telling others about Christ. Please contact us and let us know about your decision to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. I asked Jesus into my heart, NOW WHAT DO I DO? ben@greateststoryevertold.org The Gospel According to The Grateful Dead Greatest Story Ever Told
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In one of the other topics, one of the folks seemed not to be so sure of the reception he'd get for saying he was a youth minister at his church. In my experience, Deadheads span the full spectrum from Agnostic to Zoroastrian. I've met atheist Deadheads, Muslim Deadheads, Buddhist Deadheads, Catholic Deadheads, Jewish Deadheads, and Wiccan Deadheads. My Deadhead friends are all over the map on this stuff, and as far as I'm concerned one of the real richnesses of the scene is the ability to see how things look to other folks and, sometimes, experience it from their world. Believe it if you need it, if you don't, just pass it on. But talk about it here, and please maintain a safe respectful place to do so.
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Well that was quick.....jesus said I can go see the captain,the strangest I can find.Although he could not caution all,he did warn me about being a smart ass hippycrite.I told him I was aware of the problem and would try to find a fix.
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I was talking about me and my problem,not anyone else here.It may have been my "lifestyle"that made me this way. Sometimes I get sick of myself,I dont know.Religion is new to me and the old habits die hard.If I had any fun at anyone elses expense in the chatroom the shame is on me.The chatroom.......a scary,dangerous,wild,improbable ride that sucked out my skull.It was fun.I poured out my soul[and love] in that private little hell [just kidding] you guys call a chatroom and might not get it back.Wait,I wont leave you drifting down,Theres a little bit left........All the love in the world and all the best things in life to deadnet and that girl....Both of you have got the way's and mean's to open up your windows and let that long hair hang down.......I guess Im "710".....Im outta the door and DOWN to the street all alone....to look for a girl with rings on her fingers and bells on her..................
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I would STILL rather here Melvin play gospel than watch televangelists....I do miss the chat though.....the only other place I've been accepted for being myself was at Dead shows, and my church......well, OK, there were a few bars in the Philippines, but that's cuz they KNEW I was out there crazy.....
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Many Christians look at Buddhism as anything from the devil'sreligion to just false. There are many though who consider Buddhism to be valid, although lacking something. Some Buddhists believe in a God, while others see an impersonal, eternal, yet living reality. Buddhists who do see the need for the Creator, and some do believe in a Nirvana and a hell. For Buddhism to be fulfilled, these folks need to see the need for a setter up of what is good or evil. Who defines good or evil? You could even kind of get it from the Bible that there is no good or evil because God said he created both. Fact of the matter there are many many old acidheads who have become Christians. Mysticism is not bad, unless a person sees himself as being completed in being aware. We are really not as innocent or "good people" as we would like to think.. Trouble is that even realizing we are lost in a dream, we are still lost in the dream. We need to admit to God that he indeed did come into this world, suffer unimaginably and rose again. Beleive it or not. We just cannot find our own way home. "Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift." "What a long strange trip it's been" Just listening to the Furthur concert I surely got the impression that Phil already is a Christian. Best Wishes and God Bless Randy J.
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Just as you know her as sister shes just grandma to me. and just going about her journey if just one cares to know. so let us all just say on just voices of high that over the static from just this heart still is felt just love in her voice so no matter what, your religion of choice may I make just one request take a minute to just acknowledger her journey. just she can do the rest. peace and love family!, D4 11-17-2010
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I've never made a fortune, and it's probably too late now.But I don't worry about that much, I'm happy anyhow and as I go along life's way, I'm reaping better than I sowed. I'm drinking from my saucer, 'Cause my cup has overflowed. Haven't got a lot of riches, and sometimes the going's tough But I've got loving ones all around me, and that makes me rich enough. I thank GOD for his Blessings, and the Mercies HE's bestowed. I'm drinking from my saucer, 'Cause my cup has overflowed. I remember times when things went wrong, My faith wore somewhat thin. But all at once the dark clouds broke, and the sun peeped through again. So LORD, help me not to gripe, about the tough rows I have hoed. I'm drinking from my saucer, 'Cause my cup has overflowed. If GOD gives me strength and courage, When the way grows steep and rough. I'll not ask for other blessings, I'm already Blessed enough. And may I never be too busy, to help others bear their loads.. Then I'll keep drinking from my saucer, 'Cause my cup has overflowed
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Couldn't have said it better myself, Johnman!
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sent this it to me recently, and while I think it's a bit stilted and corny, it fits where I'm at and reminds me that I have SO MUCH to be thankful for...
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I really want a copy of Further in Minneapolis,mn What a show!!The balconey was bouncin up and down a few FEET with the music and EVERYONE dancing was more than it was built to take. Did anyone else see that? Thank God it didnt collapse. I bhad the BEST time of my life that night. I need a copy....PLEASE
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maybe it was a religious experience!
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I haven't read all 62 pages of posts, I admit, but if anyone argued that the Dead experience itself is religious and that the relgious experience is one of the more open and welcoming of all religious experiences, I would agree!! I have many many thoughts on the Dead and religion, and strongly think that the Dead experience, at its purest, served the same function as a religion in many of our lives. Religious scholars have spent years breaking down religions into the necessary characteristics of what it means to be a 'religion', and it is not a stretch to make the Dead fit these molds. True, the religion would be comparable to Christianity and Buddhism in its earliest stages, but it would be comparable. Great thread. Hope its still alive! J.T. Gossard http://thehallucinogenicbible.blogspot.com/
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Is a wild scary dangerous improbable ride[like jerrys riffs]......sometimes I freak out,maybe,i dont know.Its highly improbable for someone like me to consider it[religion].Deadnet is a great place to freak out....I guess.I wish there was more sincerity in the world.
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I've often been asked by non-deadheads how I reconcile my belief in the Christian gospel and my love of all things Grateful Dead. I always respond that there is nothing to reconcile. My faith and my love of this music are not disparate at all. The question itself is founded in ignorance of what this music is all about in the first place. I am so glad to see my fellow heads are so understanding and open minded about this as witnessed by this thread. In the lot, when the subject comes up, I never feel the notion that I'm not accepted as one of us. We've all been so profoundly touched by "our" music and that is a common bond.
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(religion) you wear, just as long as you are there! Just popped in my head-dunno why :) ********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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As usual deadnet,Im impressed.You guys get the gist of it ...........thx
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...and lawyers guns and money won't get you of here. When the body is breaking down, as well as the mind, never give up faith. It is so tempting to go to a place you know that is always warm, set your altar and your easel and laptop and pray and paint and write poetry, listen to the best of my 60s and 70s music and try to get closer to reality before I die. Turn off the news for sure. So dog tired of just trying to get through another day because people depend on me. The whole thing is just so sad. They all are all still chasing after a dream that died a while ago. They want me to make the dream come true for them. Do all you can, do for others, come from the heart -- Jesus and Buddha and all the great ones said that. Believe and don't pick up that spike no more (Whatever your spike might be). Cuz yer only getting farther away and not closer and it never ends. It never ends ~ Killing me softly with his song ~
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everyday is a new day, and I think I've learned that we have to start each one with that thought, and while I, too have people that depend on me, I know that they love me....and that makes it worthwhile......I think....I guess we can't change everything, just make our little part work, and hope it spreads.....hope I don't sound like some kinda know-it-all....as I sure as fak ain't......
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you sound like the kindhearted loving brother you are! Hang in there Gonzo-calming vibes to you! ********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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Those were bitchen posts.Mine are like jerrys echo-effects on his guitar,they eventually come back around ..[limited internet access].Im primitive.......Im.......Low tech.[head hanging down]Hope your next coupla years go well for u...............god bless our veterans!
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This has been a sweet page so far...."It doesn't matter what you wear, just as long as you are there !!!! TigerLilly, I am going to use this unless you wish it not....
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and their church of hate. Their continuous hate-filled protests at the funerals of our fallen heroes leads me to believe that they are enemies of God, Jesus, and our country. If someone gunned them all down and I had to be on the jury I would not be able to convict the shooter. I would say "good riddance, they got what they deserved." If they want to protest in front of the Capitol, fine, but stay away from soldiers funerals.
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And it is in bad taste to do this out of bigotry at another's funeral who fought and would have died for your freedom, but it is free speech. It's a slippery ride down the slope to fascism as we saw with the building of the Community Center/Mosque near Ground Zero some months ago. You should know that up here in the boonies the Hell's Angels and the Staties and the local cops all collaborate to stop any of that crap. The Supreme Court can go to hell. America is as it is, where it is and God help those people if they tried to demonstrate at certain funerals. Choppers would plow them down and then bullets would take the rest. That is for people who PROTEST AGAINST THE WARS. So, equal rights for all, no matter how much in bad taste it might be. You can always turn your back. Tolerance and respect is aspired to in this world, not truly existent everywhere.
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or they will reap what they sow. They should not be worshipping words but walking in the light of the living Christ, but we all fall at times. Jesus said: "Be ye therefore merciful as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven. St. Luke,6:36-37 There must be an evil spirit in that church that has a hold of those poor folks. I would encourage all Christians in the area to go there and pray for healing until they walk in love. The guy in Florida who was going to burn the Koran saw the light, Hopefully the Westboro Baptists will too. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world: but that the world through him might be saved. St. John, 3:17 Let it be known, there is a fountain, that was not made by the hands of man
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Jesus is just alright with me, Jesus is just alright, oh yeahJesus is just alright with me, Jesus is just alright I don't care what they may say I don't care what they may do I don't care what they may say Jesus is just alright, oh yeah Jesus is just alright Jesus is just alright with me, Jesus is just alright, oh yeah Jesus is just alright with me, Jesus is just alright I don't care what they may know I don't care where they may go I don't care what they may know Jesus is just alright, oh yeah Jesus, he's my friend; Jesus, he's my friend He took me by the hand; Led me far from this land Jesus, he's my friend Jesus is just alright with me, Jesus is just alright, oh yeah Jesus is just alright with me, Jesus is just alright I don't care what they may say, I don't care what they may do I don't care what they may say, Jesus is just alright, oh yeah
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the shitty crassness of the Westboro Church's actions, I think it is wrong to transfer the individual's rights of freedom of speech to an organization. Just like it is wrong that it is now considered that corporations have the same rights and status, as an entity, as citizens do. If we continue to go down that road, we're all in big trouble. PLUS freedom of speech stops at inciting violence, and such acts as those rat turds do are certainly causing plenty of folks to feel violent.********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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You certainly have a valid insight there, one that is backed by the actions of individuals, The interview with the poor boy's father saying the Supremes didn't have the sense of a goat was poignant. The Westboro Baptists need healing badly. They are the collective voice of a demon and need to be group exorcised. Perhaps an army of Jesuits could step in and start the ceremonies. The Westboro Baptists should be shipped to the concentration camps of Poland and Germany and then brought to the front in Afghanistan. Let them feel it and see it . The Beavis and Butheads of the religious world soon see the shameful acts they are committing for what they are and halt in their tracks. BUT, they have the right to do what they want, respecting the restraint of local, county and state authorities, along with counter demonstrations. Think carefully before giving up rights some great number of people died for.
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The Spirit dwells in loving communities, and I am happy to have found this one.
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Hi everyone, I'm a college student and Grateful Dead lover working on an in depth research project on Deadheads. I want to know peoples' personal relationships to the music and the culture to understand why the Deadheads have existed and endured so prominently for so long. I would DEEPLY appreciate an interview with anyone who feels that they have something to say about the Dead and their personal history with them! It's easy, anonymous (when integrated into the paper) and a nice way to reflect upon and appreciate how the Dead and their community have affected your life. It'll also help me out a lot :) Please send me a message if you're interested! Thanks, Jackie
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It's really good to see that this thread is still growing.I check in here once and awhile and it always reafirms my faith in deadheads.You can just see the sweetness of spirit in many of the posts here. Hey Chinarider777...are you still following this thread?I read your post about your vision and it sounds to me that you experienced a"born again experience".I experienced something like that back in 1997.I didn't have the vision,but I had a complete change in my thoughts,beliefs and actions.I prayed for Jesus to come into my life and be lord of my life and everything changed in an instant.For days I had a feeling of lightness and being cleansed to my core,and a new appreciation for life and it's blessings. I often wonder if Robert Hunter also experienced this kind of spiritual awakening because he wrote the best description that I have ever heard... There comes a redeemer,but he slowly too fades away Followed behind him a wagon that's loaded with clay Seeds that were silent burst into bloom and decay Night comes so quiet,it comes on the heals of the day. I'm quoting the lyrics from memory,so please forgive me if they're not exact,and of course others may have a totally different interpretation or Hunter may have meant something different.But for me,every time I hear "eyes" I think of that incredible moment. May God bless and keep you always...
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Hope you find someone. Not me though. All I would say is you had to see a slew of shows back in the day and the meaning would be cler(er).
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There comes a redeemer and he slowly, too, fades awayAnd there follows his wagon behind him that's loaded with clay And the seeds that were silent all burst into bloom and decay And night comes so quiet, its close on the heels of the day Pretty good memory there drc32-0, I always thought the wagon was loaded with hay!
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And the souls of sixteen (two of the Amrican) died and are now karmic seeds waiting to ripen in the future for them. The minister of that church reminds of a snake-oil salesman. And we all know what the snake stands for.
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The Dalai lama announced last week his intention to leaven behind the political, secular rule that has dogged him for the last 350 years, since Tibet became unified as a nation.He will, however, continue his spiritual mentor roll for those tantric Buddhists (not just Tibetans) who wish to practice this form of meditation/philosophy/evolution/enlightenment (take your pick). He has announced that due to the Chinese leadership showing slight cracks in it's anti-Tibet attitude he will live to at least the age of 85 and continue to provide quidence to to the democratically elected government-in-exile in Dharamsala, India for the rest of this life. His advocacy of nonviolence continues to be a beacon in this troubled world. His seventeenth incarnation on this planet will not be on the Tibetan plateau, but rather in a place of exile where he can continue his spiritual guidence without Chinese interference as shown by their handling of the Panchen Lama and the 17th Karmapa. I have heard all these words from the mouth of His Holiness the Dalai Lama himself in a BBC interview aired at 6:30am this morning. Rangzen! Freedom for the land of snows and all those suffering under Chinese repression there at this time.
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that Japan will be spared this new quake threat! Mother Nature PLEASE spare our brothers and sisters more suffering!********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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that Japan will be spared this new quake threat! Mother Nature PLEASE spare our brothers and sisters more suffering!********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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But of course, particularly for them right now. The whole "ring of fire" around the Pacific rim seems to be heating up. I've heard it said that 2011 is the year for S. California. That, unfortunately, would mean trading tsunamis with Japan if it's an off shore epicenter.
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Southern banjo's[out of tune]playing through the broken glass again?....bummer.I wouldve perhaps thought of deadnet and this topic as being a refuge.........of sorts.....rather than a vehicle,a doormat,a veritable beast of burden for people and their headtrips and political agendas.......Deadnet,hows the peoples republic of berk.......oops I meant tibet treatin ya?.....I was bummed because I thought I ran out of good things to say here but...oh wait..being on deadnet and in the old chatroom for me was like.....I really actually got to talk to people that actually shook the hands of people that shook the hands of the man that shook the hand of the man if not actually shaken the hand of the man himself that shook the hand of the man......
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That was a nice post,thank you.......feel free to humiliate yourself with sincerity and post something thats built to last......
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guess the acid was too much for ya'. Look around this site for places to post and throw up there if you like. I guess it's too much to leave our positive intentions alone, huh? Marye -- wasn't this thread supposed to be somewhat protected?
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if that post were an actual response to an actual post by anyone named graceful, it would be problematical. As it is, I'm taking it as a nonlinear utterance of someone whose spirituality is a bit rearranged. Wolfbat, please chill or take it elsewhere. Thanks.
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I've followed this thread from the beginning and I have really admired your even-handed moderating.As we all know,this is a topic that can really get out of hand,but you have been able to help keep it civil while still giving everyone a chance to speak their thoughts. Only a group of deadheads could have a 65 page thread on religious beliefs and only have a few posts that requires the moderator to step in.It makes me proud to be a deadhead. Thanks
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Friend of the Devil is a novel about a reefer-smoking 1930s jazz musician, on the run from the law. He is on his way to Del Rio, a Texas border town rolling in dough, thanks to a quack doctor whose ‘goat-gland cure’ brings in well-heeled suckers by the trainload. And just across the river, the Doc’s got a million-watt “border blaster” that he uses to advertise himself along with yodelers, pitchmen, preachers, mystics, and singing cowboys. There, Herbert figures, he can hide out in plain view. But then Herbert does a favor for a stranger in a jam who turns out to be the Devil himself. Now the Devil owes Herbert a favor, something Herbert, a fervent atheist, has absolutely no interest in collecting on. Next thing Herbert knows, he’s stuck in the middle of a convoluted wager between the Devil and God, both of whom seem to take his refusal to acknowledge their existence personally. Herbert vows revenge. Luckily he finds an ally in Rose Dawn, an underage, pregnant radio clairvoyant prone to sneezing fits.
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They'll publish anything and pay you if somebody buys it. Still, one wonders about :...Rose Dawn, an underage, pregnant radio clairvoyant prone to sneezing fits.
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this is a change how? Nonetheless, as the forum moderator, to say nothing of the editor of a friend's recently published novel having nothing to do with the Dead, I would note that this is, in the words of one of the band's cover tunes, drifting too far from the shore here, and let us stick to religion, spirituality and Deadheads here rather than promoting one's fiction or slagging the state of the current publishing marketplace. Thank you. I would encourage Brendan to promote said fiction in the Grateful Dead Library or Your Own Storefront topics...
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Marye, lamagonzo, thanks for watching for an even keel; but no harm.Built to last? Yes, going on 2,000 years this morning. How could one be grateful to be dead? If "dead" is not the end.
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Hope you enjoyed the meaning of the day with loved ones. Still, you pose an interesting question: "How could one be grateful to be dead? If "dead" is not the end.." It is my opinion the some of the tunes Hunter wrote, almost the entire genre, were about people who died sadly, violently (Jack Straw, Me & My Uncle etc.) and according to which part of religion you belong to (or not) you might believe some of them condemned to hell for eternity. That ain't my religion. Mine probably has more hells than yours, just not eternal. There was a guy who used to post here who freaked out at "Friend of the Devil" (star_sleeper?) regularly So, without going uber-philosophical here, You could ddefinitely be grateful to be Dead, especially if it's not the end. Maybe it seems dark to you, but there are things in this world you do not know exist, and don't wanna know. Still. wish you all the happiness this day is meant to bring.
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Forgive this old author if I'm wrong, but didn't the publishing business use to work a different way? Editors were paid to read manuscripts presented by agents (one pile) and by he authors themselves (the slush pile). If they liked it they signed you to a contract and gave you an advance and made the manuscript into a book and promoted it to a degree (to what degree was always the problem). Now, anybody can do desk-top publishing and it's all like a vanity press except you did all the work to make it into a bonafide book. If you distribute yourself, you keep a lot of the money. If they distribute and promote they make about 5/6ths of the cost of a book. How much space is their at Borders and Waldens and other book chains, not to mention Wal-Mart? Only so much room for a few best-sellers. Am I missing the boat or isn't that a difference in the way authors at least get paid and promoted? And what difference has desk-top publishing made? I guess I wouldn't know if something I picked up is desk-topped or not., and desk-top authors make more money, I guess, minus their promotion and reproduction expenses. Feel free to move this to another thread.
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all of the above and it's complicated. Entire conferences are held on this subject regularly.