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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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  • Charlie3
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    Generally I listen to stuff from '69-'78, but I like it all. There are some songs that only appear on the later era releases, so that makes them essential for me. I find what some consider to be distracting deterioration of Jerry's voice can be a poignant addition to songs like Black Peter. Time is gonna crush us all, and Jerry was no exception, it's not like he would have lived forever if he was a teetotaler, so for me the voice is just what it is, not a catastrophe. There are several other songs, like Shakedown, Crazy Fingers and West LA Fadeaway that I enjoy and that are pretty much only on later era releases like this one, and there are some later era Eyes that are stellar, the one with Branford Marsalis on the Nassau '90 Wake Up to Find Out release comes to mind. And if the sound of the multi-track Spring 1990 TOO box is any indication, the sound in this box should be spectacular, I mean honestly, it seems like anything with multi-track source material should be on the short list for consideration as an official release.

    My first show of any kind was JGB at Orange County Community College in Middletown, NY in August '84, dropped with my younger brother about an hour before we had to leave to catch our ride to the show, and as we walked out the door my dad got home from work, looked at us and simply said "have a good trip". We always wondered if it was an intentional choice of words. To clarify, dad did not a party and we had spent a good portion of our teen years in conflict with our parents over our use of intoxicants of one variety or another, so the comment just struck us as interesting. First Dead show was that fall, second night at Worcester, MA in October '84. In hindsight, I should have budgeted some money for food for that three day road trip from Easton, PA.

    For the folks that just don't dig later era dead, that's cool as well, understandable and very different vibe to see someone saying they'll pass and leave it for someone who really wants it, as opposed to the posting of gratuitous insults directed at the release or other posters. Nice to see the vibe here shifting back to pleasant.

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    I couldn't agree with you more.. but that's much different than a simple one word reply, "garbage."

    I don't know.. live and let live.

    Opening up a shitstorm just fucks things up for many people here.. I mean, why bother?

  • bob t
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    @keith fan don't forget Down Hill from Here 1989

    Alpine Valley 7/17 and 7/19 for the box set,,,, available in VHS or Beta... limited to 200 and 400 copies..... bob t

    PS Don't forget RFK 7/12 and 7/13 also released

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    I just ordered the '91 show

    I'm 55 - first show was Spring of '78 in Columbus Ohio. Saw them a few times in the 80s/90s. I don't have anything against that era or these shows, but I doubt if this box would get much play if I ordered it. I've subscribed to Dave's picks since the beginning and I have most of the boxed sets, including 30 Trips and complete Europe 72. I'm pretty set with Dead release. And while I enjoyed all of the 80s/90s shows I saw, I spend most of my time listening to '70 to '78. its just a personal preference. I still look forward to seeing the next one

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    Might as Well (take that ride again)

    Hard to believe but I’ve been here for 47 years. First show and last show were at Giants: 7/10/89 and 6/17/91. Both were revelatory for me, but the last show is the one where I learned that there was a community and that even a 19 year old kid (or anybody, everybody) had a contribution to something greater. I’m fortunate to have found music that resonates so well with me personally and that folks that I’ll never meet have taken the time and effort to put it out there where it can be heard again and again.

    Strange to think something so profound can happen in a big stadium... It goes to show you never can tell. 🎵

  • KeithFan2112
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    Yo Dennis

    Love ya bro, good to be back. Had some major house in car issues. Fun fun fun!

    The Hoffa joke went over like a Led balloon. Too soon?

    Bulid-A-Box

    Truckin Up To Buffalo 7/4/89
    Crimson White & Indigo 7/7/89
    Giant Stadium 7/9/89
    Giant Stadium 7/10/89

    Ta-da

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    Dylan '87

    Seems a bummer that the '87 show is not including any of the 3rd set Dylan stuff and is the incomplete show in the box. Otherwise does look great and the Giants '89 were my very first shows.

  • boblopes
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    Multiple Mini Box Sets celebrating anniversaries every year.

    I understand the challenges of releases pre Betty's return, but now with the empty shelves filled in the vault, why not release mini box on special anniversary years (50th, 45th, 40th, 35th, 30th).

    Release it around the show date.
    So next year, for example, we could possibly get those 70 Fillmore East shows, those 80 Warfield RCMH, 85 Saratoga / Hershey, 90 Europe. Obviously four box sets is too much but do you get my point?

    That way maybe everybody wins - those that want one era, one that wants the other and the ones that want them all.

    I do like the concept of the Giant's box - how about a Greek Box then a Boston Garden box in the future ;)

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    I have not been checking in on these boards for a few years, but as soon as I got the notice, I thought of Space and Seth. Very happy for you both. The 80’s were my touring heydays, but for many years, not my go-to listening choice. Maybe as I try to hang onto the tales from the road, I have become less critical of the shortcomings. I just enjoy the music. The ‘87 show in this box is my audio postcard to a great day with friends and a very fun show. The cascade of humanity pouring over the wall onto the field during Ramble on Rose will not come through on the speakers, but I smile every time I hear it. Buy it if you need it or leave it if you dare...

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    Cleveland, Ohio Aug 1980...16 years old...pulled the old, "I'm-sleeping-over-a-friends-house-tonight" trick on the parents...still have the stub!

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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Volunteers - Jefferson Airplane (spinning now), nice album from start to finish.
Aoxomoxoa 50th Anniversary - Grateful Dead, first listen to the '69 mix and it sounds noticeably different than the '71 mix to my ears
Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath, some cool jammy stuff on here.
Who's Next - The Who, almost like a greatest hits collection
7/10/89 from this Box - Grateful Dead, this is another excellent sounding show. This box has exceeded my expectations for both sound quality and show quality and it's not like my expectations were low.

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Coming back to the anniversary thing, being caught up into this Giant's Stadium box, one favorite date, for one of a couple of reasons, the first being 9/27/72 Stanley Theatre a/k/a Dick's Picks 11.

I ordered this on TV when Dick Latvala actually appeared for this one pick on QVC, a television network that sells stuff. I recorded it on VHS as well. Kind of a funny one-off sales attempt. It could have been PBS (I don't recall, have to find the tape).

Most Dick's Picks were usually advertised in the GD Almanac for years, so this was a change of pace.

The 9/27/72 Stanley Theater show speaks for itself. Right up there with the best of 72. This concert also happened to land on my 5th revolution around the Sun (the Deads 7th) so it's a personally significant date.

Very different sound from '72 to '87-'91, but in both instances the Dead seemed to excel in Jersey, even though I recollect stories of harsh security. Never got to attend a North East Coast show, but the energy is undeniable, even on tape.

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That 7 9 89 show ia great

When i heard the nfa, i was truly, pleasantly surprised

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No sooner than I said that I hadn’t had a reply to my query about downloading than I got new download instructions which worked! Now to listen.

JOEINCANADA, my boxset is also still processing for dispatch to the UK, somehow it's the 'way they do these things' makes no sense to me, it may even have been dispatched, contrary to what we read.
SPACEBROTHER, I too enjoyed listening to the Dicks Picks 11 on yesterdays anniversary, I was thinking that it may even surpass any of those '72 shows in my Desert Island Box, there is such an urgency to the playing. I enjoyed the starter of that show Morning Dew, and the 30 minute Dark Star. DP17 was no slouch either a couple of days back.

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Saw some renowned shows, but no security problems there. Well, maybe one small one of our own making; I'll get to that last.

Saw Rush 2nd level 1st row, overlooking Geddy Lee, Roll the Bones tour '92 or thereabouts. Only time I ever had to see them from the 2nd tier, but the sound and view were perfect. My brother and I had no weed, but some girls behind us did. Whew, close one. I had always wanted to hear Analog Kid in the 4 tours I'd been following them, and my brother wanted to hear Vital Signs. They didn't play either on the 1st leg of the tour, which we saw in Philly. Rush almost never switched up the setlist in the middle of a tour. To our delight they played them back-to-back. I sat there with my head in my hands, the weed taking hold, yelling "I can't believe they're playing this!" Then my older brother got his Vial Signs. Xanadu came later. Man oh man what a show. I remember the view of the stage from up there was interesting; Rush had this black and white wavy line stage floor that tour, and the lasers and lights gave my stoned eyes some great visuals. No security issues.

Saw Metallica/ Guns 'N Roses at Giants Stadium in the summer of '93. Was so into G'NR after Use Your Illusions came out. Halfway through the second set somebody allegedly hit Axl in the nuts with a lighter and he walked off stage. Concert over. This is one of the famous shows I think I talked about in those days for Axl's shitty behavior; this walkoff incident at The Meadowlands even made it into an end of year article in Life magazine. The fuckers came on an hour and a half after Metallica too. Faith No More have played first as well, so they didn't even come on stage until around 12:30am. No security issues. Well, Axl may contend there were some security issues.

Saw Rush again on the Test for Echo Tour. I had already seen them three times on that tour already, the first from the second row at the new Spectrum. Maybe it was the old Spectrum I don't remember. They were playing 2112 in its entirety for the first time ever that tour that, as kind of a 20th anniversary commemoration of the album. Not that it was unusual to see them multiple times on a tour, it was in fact the norm, but I think that was the first time I'd seen them 4 times on one tour. No security issues.

Saw KISS on New Years Eve on their Reunion Tour in '97ish. We made it onto Dick Clark's Rockin New Year's Eve. No security issues.

Once had a bear security issue at AC/DC. My buddy and I couldn't find any weed in the parking lot, but a guy had mushrooms. My dopey buddy put them in his front pocket. Of course they found them. You know how packed full of people gets at the security checkpoint. The guy knew we were together and said to stand where we were. He turned to his nearby manager with the mushrooms in hand and began explaining that he found them all my buddy. For a good 5 Seconds they left my buddy with no eyes on him. He just disappeared into the crowd. They started making their way after him and then I just disappeared into the crowd. We met up at our seats with no mushrooms, and probably about a hundred bucks in the hole for post concert balloons, but we had no problem finding other generous smokers in our section. Yeah, the Meadowlands...

And then there's the Foolish Heart from 7/10/89. I don't know much about 80s Dead, but I've been hugely familiar with Foolish Heart since it came out. This is the best one I've heard, and I have a folder full of them. Jerry's vocals are so good. It's a little extra long. And of course the sound is incredible. And the Warlocks box is no slouch of a version. I always wonder if Brent wrote the keyboard melody. I'm pretty sure he doesn't have any writing credits on that one. But it is much more prominent than Garcia's guitar.

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I'm still waiting the new download files despite being promised them within 3 business days on Tuesday. Aside from threatening a PayPal claim, does anybody else have any idea how to get them?

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Came yesterday. Nice box. Last side of last album has dancing bears embossed in it, very nice.

I'm assuming the sound is GREAT,,,, still no turntable :-( , but the box is nice,,, really, nice box.

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this one is going fast, I highly recommend anyone and everyone who wants one of these to pick it up now, or miss out. These will be gone by Thanksgiving and they will cost a small fortune by Christmas (at least double the original cost).

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I received a new email this past Thursday for the Giants Stadium download. It came from Warner Music Redemption Store. I could not get it to work on a Mac. I had to open it in Windows.

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Eric, that's a freaking hoot.. how on earth did you find that?

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Wow!! That is real hip. Jerry's alligator guitar from graham nash is so cool along with the 60s amps is just out of sight.

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That QVC upload from a couple weeks ago is hilarious! Did anyone else catch the Dicks Picks 1-6 Set for $87.50?! I'm gonna try calling that number with an order number and start making some demands.

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i wonder if it's going to ship? Sep 29 and my order status is 'not yet shipped'. I truly regret having ordered this record from this website. Will not make this mistake again.

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Just ordered DiP 1-8, thanks for the incredible score. I called the number, Steve Parrish answered the phone, it's in the mail. Great score, many thanks.

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I can't wait till we see the Dave's Picks series come up on QVC. Do you think they will offer Dave's Picks 1 - 6 for $87.50?

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you called that number today? got thru and made and order? that is so cool, I will call now. thanks Eric

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Anyone finding a slight jump at the 3:30 mark of the 6/17/91 CD1? If it's on all the discs, then I won't bother pursuing a replacement. Too bad it's right in the middle of Jerry's jam; if it were in a singing verse, I probably wouldn't care at all . . .

Very cool set, overall . . .

Go Twins--beat the Damn Yankees!

DSO at First Ave. tomorrow--yay!

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Woke up this morning to snow on the ground and more snow coming down. I guess fall has been cancelled in Montana this year.

I almost found myself watching an hour of vintage QVC last night, thanks Erik and/or Jenn, cool link. Dick's pitch on QVC is briefly referenced in Jesse Jarnow's book Heads so I was really tempted to keep watching and get a first hand look at the event. I may return for another look.

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...a fellow member of this board just brought to my attention. Caceyjanes, is this post Directed at me? Grateful yours, lovemygirl 🙏❤️😎💀🌹

....no. not that kind. Back in 2006 (?), Dead.net had a sale. Dick's 26-30 for I think around $90. Good times.
I jumped on those dicks. No regrets.
I have a stepdaughter in eastern Washington State. No fall there either. Today's high in Las Vegas besides me? 76 degrees. Ahhhh....

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#04245 strolled in late Friday. Finally had a chance to scan the cover art for anybody who's interested:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rk5mt19fr53lvx6/AACm_sy8kujzqagZd3DQOWuBa?dl…

I've been spongeing up early commentary around here and will leave the informed reviews to the pros. But the box! . . . A few words on the physical box are in order for those awaiting delivery (or still on the fence). As soon as the Giants Stadium Box emerges from the clever exo-skeleton it ships in, it begins dazzling. The box itself is compact (cigar box sized if you know what that means). It's been impressively Art Directed/Designed by Lisa Glines & Doran Tyson. The main box is printed on prismatic foil that begins to "come on" warmly as soon as you wave it around in the light. Flip open the magnetic lid, and you'll find a fat, sturdy, ribbon-accessed spiral bound book – really it's more of a cool, quirky, flippable collage – with Gary Lambert's and Jesse Jarnow's stories woven in. I haven't read the articles yet ;-), but multi-media translucent art overlays, illustrations, fold-outs, tons of photos plus the book's well-conceived and executed design make this a trip that's definitely worth taking over and over. Finally the five Grateful Dead shows and DVD/BluRay make their appearance and it's time the rip, listen and soak up the music. Which I'll do as soon as I hit "save" and play a friendly(?) round of recaptcha. Oh, and if you're really still on the fence, I'm a tie-dyed-in-the-wool, second-set-seventies kind of head, but you still probably should pul the trigger on this one while you can.

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Does anyone else's Blu Ray not work? Whenever I try to play it on my 4K UHD player, it pretty much immediately spits it out and says the disc's format could not be supported.

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I checked my br and it plays ok.

Wow this box, physically, is a work of art. I'm so impressed. So many sweet photos. Sounds sweet, too. Listening to the first 89 show, yow!

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....or both. not sure who I'm talking to, but my new Onkyo was $220 including shipping. Bluetooth. Godsend. I first saw I on QVC. So I jumped.

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Quality just keeps getting better and better. I particularly enjoy how pronounced Bob's playing is in my left ear, just like last year. Going back to previous releases like Spring 1990 I can hear him with head phones but nothing compares to these shows.

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....new Billy Strings record is manna from heaven. Noticed he's touring the West. Dodged Vegas. Shame.

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Go to nugs.net and type "free download" into the search window. There's a fantastic Billy Strings show waiting to be had. Govt. Mule and some others as well.
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Thanks, ERIKANDJENN for the youtube clip, I never knew that existed, and thinking of what JIMINMD said regarding the Daves Picks, this will never happen, however, this could play out the same way as the Fillmore Boxset with the limited edition numbers. They could also be released as a limited number in a vinyl format, I would definitely be interested in Volume 1 and that '74 Bonus disc.
Still no news COLINGOULD on the Giants Box, they are still processing orders for the UK according to my order, and when I ordered last month it stated it would be shipped in late September, but as noted before, who knows it could be on route to us after all, the delivery process works in a mysterious way, I'm hoping for a DHL delivery after that last fiasco.

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I received and am going through the shows and DVD. I'm super impressed with the mix on everything and quality of the sound. Super excited and thanks to Dave and his crew for this treat. Each show puts a huge smile on my face!

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This boxset and the quality is really super pleasing!

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Try a firmware update.....sometimes if your player is older and/or hasn’t had a firmware update in a while you’ll have issues with newly released discs....depending on your player it can be as easy as just going into the players menu, not the disc. Old and/or cheap players may require using a computer. You should be able to look up your unit online for directions........good luck, hope this helps.

EDIT: thanks E&J for the qvc clip, priceless! Who knew Big Steve was such an actor? Must of been those Saturday night live performances, rubbing elbows with Belushi et el

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My son surprised me with this box (love that kid!), and while I'm not the biggest 80s or 90s fan (right, I'm one of THOSE), the sound quality is crazy good. Ditto the artwork and overall box design.

Great stuff.

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After hearing Uncle John's Band on the Rolling Stone magazine listening party link, I knew I was going to love it, and it' been kind like bud to me. I'm like a blind man in this era, so all I can say that others have not is that I love the dual keyboard players and backup vocal textures. Am I correct in assuming that both Bruce and Vince are singing? And does anyone know who is playing the notes and who is laying down the ethereal sustained synth chords? And final question until I pick up a copy of "Post-Godchaux For Dummies" - is Bruce on any of the 30 Trips shows? Anyway, I can't say enough about how good Jerry sounds both vocally and on guitar. Brown-Eyed Women has a great solo from him, which alas, one of the keyboard players is playing on top of him (probably my only complain about the show). The Truckin' vocals haven't sounded this good on the chorus since 1974. Just saying. Eyes of the World is a gem right? I'm not wrong about that? New Speedway Boogie is one of my all time favorite 60s Dead tunes so I was eagerly awaiting that one. I guess as a person who is primarily familiar with the 60s, 70s, and early 80s, I found the overall sound much more electronic and synthy than what I am accustomed to, and that is a nice change in repertoire. I don't remember them sounding like this in 95. That could be entirely due to the mix though.

Big thanks for the album artwork Jeff. You've single handedly pushed back my day of reckoning for buying a scanner - going on 5 yrs now. I'm primarily a Digital Man, so my audio files must sound lossless and my visuals must be hi-res.

I had a great day on the headphones at work today. I got the entire 1991 show in, and as well as the closing of winterland from end-to-end. Now that's been a while! Man they were on that night. Keith was brilliant while he was awake. Stagger Lee and Miracle are soooo well executed (and I think Bobby actually sounds pretty good on the slide). And I love the Dark Star. I know some people find it a little bit simple and non-explorative, but that's what I like about it - Jerry noodling away against the main Darkstar melodie that Keith and Bobby are holding down, and then they get into my second favorite post hiatus Other One (DP18 holds honors). And Phil sounds incredible the whole night, turned up nice and loud on account of the multitrack. Scarlet Fire is a great one to my ears.

Also got in half of To Terrapin 77 (5/28). There few shows from 77 that have a different sound to them then the rest of the bunch, and this is one of them. I think it's a combination of some extraordinary separation plus a matrixy quality. I bought this one when it was released and was completely blown away by the Sugaree & the Terrapin Station. And the Samson & Delilah has this incredible synergistic moment between Bobby and Donna - great God Almighty talk wooo!

Yeah I'm in a strange 1977 1978 mood. I did some "Return to Normal with the Grateful Dead" on the drive in today (i.e Normal Illinois, DaP 8 I believe). Some great stuff in there. It was weird - for a moment Werewolves, which is played kind of slowly here, sounded like Althea in the beginning. The Music Never Stopped is as mesmerizing as ever in the mini-jam from 3:45-5:45 approximately. Dig the Scarlet Fire and Terrapin Station as well. Let It Burn. Let It Burn, Let It Burn.

Oh man I've done it again. This post is just a bunch of pure rambling about a couple of great concerts. I listened to the Colgate show from 77 on the way home and man how quickly I forget - this one's great too. The Stella Blue is worth the price of admission. I think it's the best show they did in the Autumn of 77 that has been released.

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Don’t comment very often and hadn’t seen it mentioned yet, but couldn’t help but notice in the very nicely done book that came with the Giants box, in the back where it lists the members of the band Brent was left out....... Otherwise have to say this is my new favorite of all the boxes I have gotten. Which is them all minus Europe ‘72 and 30 Trips.

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Nice Rush reference Kiethfan2112. Been picking up some Rush lately to replace some things I had ages ago on cassette or to fill in some blank spaces.

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.... top three Rush for me.
And yes. The powers that be left the Brentster out. Shame.
But the foldout on page 93?! Hell. Yeah. 🍻

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I read the posts from the bottom up and was getting ready to say that Blu-Ray players need occasional firmware updates to fix bugs, add features, and optimize compatibility. But Oborious has it covered. That should get yours working.

KF I listen to Closing of Winterland a lot. I don't think any single show comes close im '78. I don't know if you were joking, I think you were half serious about Keith playing brilliantly when he was awake. It cracks me up when people take a few comments from Phil Lesh, Bob Weir and Jerry Garcia about how Keith wasn't as good after the 74 break, and they turn that into the reason 1978 was such an awkward year. If you take time to dig up interviews with people close to band including Donna herself, it was more about the offstage drama their marriage had become and the finger pointing in all directions for why they sounded like shit all the sudden. With four original members, of course it was the Godchauxs who had to leave. To say Keith wasn't playing like he did in '73 is a half-truth. He wasn't playing like he used to because half the improv songs he used to stretch out on were ditched for more streamlined arrangements. Also, lol, they took his fucking piano away from him. That will change your style eh? And they changed the basic landscape of the old songs by filling them with loud simple drum beats that literally left him no space to play in. Pity really. I'm not testifying that he didn't ever nod off, I'm just letting you know there is not really any evidence of him playing poorly, only of having his role diminshed. Whew got that off my chest.

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Bruce is with the band on the 91 30 Trips show and the 92 show. The 91 show is great and also has Bradford M.
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Bruce also played on the 1990 European tour, and is present and correct at Paris in 30 Trips.

I think I have said before, it was very surprising at London that year when the first sets on 30/10 and 11/1 ended with Bruce songs-Valley Road and Stander on the Mountain. I had no idea who he was at the time, and had never heard either song before.

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Thanks Deadvikes and Daverock. I just so happen to have purchased 30 Trips Around the Sun. Man that was the fun box to receive. When I'm old and senile I'm going to buy it again. I think the only 90s I listened to out of that bunch was 90 and 95.

I also bought Dick's Picks 27 several years back. I think that's also 1991, but I don't recall it sounding quite like this June show from the Giants Stadium box - could just be my foggy memory. That's the one I bought in my Throwing Stones phase. Back in the eighties when it was on the radio all the time, I somehow missed the bad ass Jam in the middle. So I had this phase where I was gathering all live versions of Throwing Stones to me. To be economical about it I was just downloading individual songs. But when I got to Dick's Picks 27 I saw what a killer setlist it had throughout - Shakedown Street, Baba O'Riley / Tomorrow Never Knows, Dark Star, Let It Grow, Loose Lucy, and my all-time favorite Brent era song, Feel Like a Stranger (side note: for my taste, the synthesizer he uses on Feel Like a Stranger from that early Dave's Picks at the Fox in Atlanta - a Moog of some flavor, or I'm no prog rock enthusiast - is the penultimate sound for that killer riff, and the BOAT version of that song). I wonder who wrote that riff? While it's played on keyboard, Brent doesn't have any writing credits.

Exile, yes I was making a well-intentioned wisecrack about my good friend Keith Godchaux. How do I know he's a good friend? Because I love him and Bill Graham introduced him as "Friends of yours and mine at multiple shows. I actually couldn't agree with you more. I think the shifting landscape in the Grateful Dead's music it was probably the single biggest factor that made him leave the band. And the off stage acrimony with Donna must have cemented the bands desire to move on. You said it best - the guy was a piano player who excelled in that hugely open one drummer environment. If you listen to shows year by year from 72 through 78, you can hear the walls closing in on him.

I'm dipping into Dicks Picks 24 this morning. Can't beat those rare Playing / Uncle / Dew / Uncle / Playings. Morning Dew was a juggernaut in 1974.

Charlie and Vguy - good catch on the Digital Man reference. Signals is indeed the underground classic. It makes me a little doubtful about their choice to stop using Terry Brown as a producer. They definitely had many many great songs after that, but did they really have another album as good as Signals? I think they came the closest With Clockwork Angels their Swan Song. The funny thing about that record is that most 70s and 80s records were 40 to 45 minutes long. There is easily 45 minutes of fantastic material on Clockwork Angels, but then there are four or five throwaways in my mind. Less is more. Funny how that works.

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“””cast ......””Victim Of The Blind”””.....cJ”””.....🤧😵😷🤔😲🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥
“"LMG-so sorry to hear of your ongoing health issues. I will continue to pray for the return of all of your faculties.”””

Here’s a sad, but very true story:

“”””””””””Recently I was ripped off buying some art from a man whom I thought I had “friended” on a similar board such as ours. The man was selling some art pieces in efforts to raise money for his medical bills. I felt sorry for this man and purchased three of the pieces that he was peddling. I paid the agreed upon amount of money which was $950.00 but when the check was cashed and the package arrived the first two items were not as described and did not look like the pictures that were sent to me. The third promised item was not there at all. Funny thing is, on the day when I reached out to this man about discrepancies and missing item, he feigned blindness caused by his medical issues. When I further inquired, he feigned ignorance of the emails,and agreements that I had, and still have in writing. It was at that point when it dawned on me that this man was telling the truth. He was blind after all, and truly did not see. I have never met the man in person so I can’t comment as to the condition of his eyes, but my guess is that they are dark.””””””😳

Whoa o what I really want to know...is this man The Victim or the Crime? or maybe I was the victim of The Blind? or possibly I was a victim and now I’m the crime?””””"”””””””””””

“””””No matter.... and Whatever the case....Please don’t murder me...I can’t prevent the crime but I can certainly warn the potential victims...you know better, but I know him, or perhaps, I know better but you know him.

Lord I hate bus driving....think I hit a bump back there.....Somebody take the wheel....

Here’s some tips for driving and buying shit from art peddlers on the internet:

Make sure to read all the signs...
Of course no texting, but try to read between “”the lines....
Beware of the wolf appearing so dire, he collects his dues while we sing round the fire!”””
Everything I pasted from a quota from kCJ. on thisboard ... kcJ —-this s a load s—-! Your an ungrateful human being an A liar . Idid no such thing.!!!Your remark is totally a figment in your really childish brain and thinking & paractise. /on your part.so Your-our New Doc?! your a doctor in you MAS delushes Of grander ...a doctor now!? Ha ha that made me laugh.yo have a Robles with m , you know how toreach me. To post something in nature on this publiclyboardis uncalled for, Rude and False - your the liar you brother. Lu treat me like a stranger and mak PZoST irs , reliable from your twisted form of thinking! Rave me be and go in Peacemy brother I wish no harm or ill tidings. I’m finished with this redicilas accusation never been any time since I’ve been a member on this board for year did something like this ever occur it’s just crazy??? I guess being KIND and Giving can come back and bite one in their ass, “”money Bears Soul Every Time” . “Money Beats Soul;”” Every dame time, Money Beats Soul”! 🙏❤️💀🌹😕

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Major Bob Weir fan here, IN the context of Grateful Dead.

Always liked Bobbie's "Cowboy songs", LOL they were always my guilty pleasures, considered them a valuable component of our musical heritage, both inside and outside of the Dead. My & My Uncle was the all time most frequently played song by the Dead, never had a problem with that...…………

Also like Victim as well as Picasso Moon, found them a little more interesting than the new Hunter-Garcia material of that era. Just one man's humble opinion...…………….

Not sure about starting petitions to "ban" certain songs, but if I never heard Day Job again it would be too soon...…….

Rock on, rockers!!!!!

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Keeping you honest keithfan - Dick's Picks 27 is actually a late '92 show, and Bruce had departed at that point (actually he left early on in the year around March I believe). So no Bruce on that pick, but it was among the first we had heard (I think) with the new lone pianer-player, Vince.

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