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    Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

    What's Inside:

    5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

    7/12/87 (24-track masters)

    7/9/89  (24-track masters)

    7/10/89 (24-track masters)

    6/16/91 (48-track masters)

    6/17/91 (48-track masters)

    Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

    By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

    "The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

    With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

    GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

    Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

    Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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    I'm not crazy about the title, but this next Hendrix release, featuring all the shows from Fillmore East, New Years Eve-Day 1969-70 looks as though it could be alright.

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    My order was still processing until the day I received it. Hope this helps...Good Luck!

  • daverock
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    I listened to Waterbury 9/24/72 today as well. I enjoyed the Dark Star...but as a whole, I felt a bit uninvolved. Surprising...it just didn't really grab me as a whole show.
    Conversely, I followed this with the following 30 Trips show, 11/14/73, and got into it straight away. I have only played the first cd, but there are so many great touches-Jerry's guitar on Black Throated Wind, Keith's piano on The Race Is On and an epic Here Come Sunshine. I don't normally think of 1973 as having great first sets-but this one is. Today.

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    I started with the 1970 and 71 show this morning and now have made it here.... If i recall right Bruce Hornsby did not perform at the first show in Stockholm Sweden, Ice Stadium.. of the Europe 1990 tour. Also i really like when Dave puts a jam of the week out on Friday, and then on Monday has parts of the same show or something similar like the Alpine Valley shows this past week. have a good week everyone. bob t

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    How long does your order status stay in "processing" mode before it actually ships? Reading all the glowing reviews, and cannot wait to get the box. Thanks

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    Keeping you honest keithfan - Dick's Picks 27 is actually a late '92 show, and Bruce had departed at that point (actually he left early on in the year around March I believe). So no Bruce on that pick, but it was among the first we had heard (I think) with the new lone pianer-player, Vince.

    There is a massive Phil-bomb that he drops at the beginning of Shakedown Street on that album that can blow your subwoofer if you have it turned up to 11. You will know that I'm talking about if you attempt to do this.
    Advice: Do This.

    Sixtus

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    “””cast ......””Victim Of The Blind”””.....cJ”””.....🤧😵😷🤔😲🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥
    “"LMG-so sorry to hear of your ongoing health issues. I will continue to pray for the return of all of your faculties.”””

    Here’s a sad, but very true story:

    “”””””””””Recently I was ripped off buying some art from a man whom I thought I had “friended” on a similar board such as ours. The man was selling some art pieces in efforts to raise money for his medical bills. I felt sorry for this man and purchased three of the pieces that he was peddling. I paid the agreed upon amount of money which was $950.00 but when the check was cashed and the package arrived the first two items were not as described and did not look like the pictures that were sent to me. The third promised item was not there at all. Funny thing is, on the day when I reached out to this man about discrepancies and missing item, he feigned blindness caused by his medical issues. When I further inquired, he feigned ignorance of the emails,and agreements that I had, and still have in writing. It was at that point when it dawned on me that this man was telling the truth. He was blind after all, and truly did not see. I have never met the man in person so I can’t comment as to the condition of his eyes, but my guess is that they are dark.””””””😳

    Whoa o what I really want to know...is this man The Victim or the Crime? or maybe I was the victim of The Blind? or possibly I was a victim and now I’m the crime?””””"”””””””””””

    “””””No matter.... and Whatever the case....Please don’t murder me...I can’t prevent the crime but I can certainly warn the potential victims...you know better, but I know him, or perhaps, I know better but you know him.

    Lord I hate bus driving....think I hit a bump back there.....Somebody take the wheel....

    Here’s some tips for driving and buying shit from art peddlers on the internet:

    Make sure to read all the signs...
    Of course no texting, but try to read between “”the lines....
    Beware of the wolf appearing so dire, he collects his dues while we sing round the fire!”””
    Everything I pasted from a quota from kCJ. on thisboard ... kcJ —-this s a load s—-! Your an ungrateful human being an A liar . Idid no such thing.!!!Your remark is totally a figment in your really childish brain and thinking & paractise. /on your part.so Your-our New Doc?! your a doctor in you MAS delushes Of grander ...a doctor now!? Ha ha that made me laugh.yo have a Robles with m , you know how toreach me. To post something in nature on this publiclyboardis uncalled for, Rude and False - your the liar you brother. Lu treat me like a stranger and mak PZoST irs , reliable from your twisted form of thinking! Rave me be and go in Peacemy brother I wish no harm or ill tidings. I’m finished with this redicilas accusation never been any time since I’ve been a member on this board for year did something like this ever occur it’s just crazy??? I guess being KIND and Giving can come back and bite one in their ass, “”money Bears Soul Every Time” . “Money Beats Soul;”” Every dame time, Money Beats Soul”! 🙏❤️💀🌹😕

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    Rock on and be well Dead People!

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    Edit: Bully’s suck, but liars and thieves are worse...

    September 26, 2019 - 3:27pm#100
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    Major Bob Weir fan here, IN the context of Grateful Dead.

    Always liked Bobbie's "Cowboy songs", LOL they were always my guilty pleasures, considered them a valuable component of our musical heritage, both inside and outside of the Dead. My & My Uncle was the all time most frequently played song by the Dead, never had a problem with that...…………

    Also like Victim as well as Picasso Moon, found them a little more interesting than the new Hunter-Garcia material of that era. Just one man's humble opinion...…………….

    Not sure about starting petitions to "ban" certain songs, but if I never heard Day Job again it would be too soon...…….

    Rock on, rockers!!!!!

    Doc

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    Thanks Deadvikes and Daverock. I just so happen to have purchased 30 Trips Around the Sun. Man that was the fun box to receive. When I'm old and senile I'm going to buy it again. I think the only 90s I listened to out of that bunch was 90 and 95.

    I also bought Dick's Picks 27 several years back. I think that's also 1991, but I don't recall it sounding quite like this June show from the Giants Stadium box - could just be my foggy memory. That's the one I bought in my Throwing Stones phase. Back in the eighties when it was on the radio all the time, I somehow missed the bad ass Jam in the middle. So I had this phase where I was gathering all live versions of Throwing Stones to me. To be economical about it I was just downloading individual songs. But when I got to Dick's Picks 27 I saw what a killer setlist it had throughout - Shakedown Street, Baba O'Riley / Tomorrow Never Knows, Dark Star, Let It Grow, Loose Lucy, and my all-time favorite Brent era song, Feel Like a Stranger (side note: for my taste, the synthesizer he uses on Feel Like a Stranger from that early Dave's Picks at the Fox in Atlanta - a Moog of some flavor, or I'm no prog rock enthusiast - is the penultimate sound for that killer riff, and the BOAT version of that song). I wonder who wrote that riff? While it's played on keyboard, Brent doesn't have any writing credits.

    Exile, yes I was making a well-intentioned wisecrack about my good friend Keith Godchaux. How do I know he's a good friend? Because I love him and Bill Graham introduced him as "Friends of yours and mine at multiple shows. I actually couldn't agree with you more. I think the shifting landscape in the Grateful Dead's music it was probably the single biggest factor that made him leave the band. And the off stage acrimony with Donna must have cemented the bands desire to move on. You said it best - the guy was a piano player who excelled in that hugely open one drummer environment. If you listen to shows year by year from 72 through 78, you can hear the walls closing in on him.

    I'm dipping into Dicks Picks 24 this morning. Can't beat those rare Playing / Uncle / Dew / Uncle / Playings. Morning Dew was a juggernaut in 1974.

    Charlie and Vguy - good catch on the Digital Man reference. Signals is indeed the underground classic. It makes me a little doubtful about their choice to stop using Terry Brown as a producer. They definitely had many many great songs after that, but did they really have another album as good as Signals? I think they came the closest With Clockwork Angels their Swan Song. The funny thing about that record is that most 70s and 80s records were 40 to 45 minutes long. There is easily 45 minutes of fantastic material on Clockwork Angels, but then there are four or five throwaways in my mind. Less is more. Funny how that works.

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    Bruce also played on the 1990 European tour, and is present and correct at Paris in 30 Trips.

    I think I have said before, it was very surprising at London that year when the first sets on 30/10 and 11/1 ended with Bruce songs-Valley Road and Stander on the Mountain. I had no idea who he was at the time, and had never heard either song before.

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    Bruce is with the band on the 91 30 Trips show and the 92 show. The 91 show is great and also has Bradford M.
    Busy Monday for you. I am jealous.

    Looks like 10,000 was the magic number for Rhino as this one will be gone soon.
    If you are on the fence, get it, you won't be disappointed.

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Buckle up as we take a deep dive into Giants Stadium!

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Giants Stadium Shows On 14 Discs

7/12/87 (24-track masters)

7/9/89  (24-track masters)

7/10/89 (24-track masters)

6/16/91 (48-track masters)

6/17/91 (48-track masters)

Blu-ray/DVD video of the complete 6/17/91 show, mixed in surround sound  Mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios Mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering with Plangent Processes restoration Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 10,000

By 1987, the Grateful Dead had lived many of their nine lives but were about to embark on one not a soul had seen coming. In The Dark, their first studio album in seven years, had spawned a hit (A TOP 10 SINGLE FOR THE GRATEFUL DEAD?!) and "Touch Of Grey" begat a new generation with their fanny packs and their MTV and their undeniable quest to join the party already in progress. And boy, did the Dead let them in! But not without fine-tuning their sonic vibes to meet the new demand.

"The Swamp," as Giants Stadium was affectionately known, along with the grandstands the Dead had been frequenting, would seemingly equate with BIGGER and LOUDER, but the band "remained determined to give equal weight to the more subtle, oblique elements; to the exploratory improvisation and rhythmic complexities; to the fine details of the most heart-rending ballads as well as the weirdest dissonances in the jams."

With GIANTS STADIUM 1987/1989/1991, we retrace this journey from their 1987 breakthrough to their 1989 revelation ("the closest they ever came to sounding like a really polished stadium-level rock act, but the band’s penchant for breaking out of the constraints of song structure and into freewheeling improvisation will remind you just who you’re listening to here") to their transformative return in 1991, aided by elegance of Vince Welnick and Bruce Hornsby.

GIANTS STADIUM: 1987, 1989, 1991 features five previously unreleased shows that were recorded at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, NJ on: July 12, 1987; July 9 and 10, 1989; and June 16 and 17, 1991. Originally recorded by John Cutler, each show has been mixed from the multitrack master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios in San Rafael, CA, and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser at Airshow Mastering. The first three shows are mixed from 24-track masters. The final two from 1991 are the only Grateful Dead shows ever recorded to 48-track masters. We’re rounding things out with a little visual stimuli -  the entire multi-camera 6/17/91 concert recording on either two DVDs or a single Blu-ray, both with a surround mix by Norman.

Due September 27th, this release is limited to 10,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net. We highly suggest you grab a copy while you can so you can sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out.

Prefer your boxed set byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

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I LOVE this box and I do think 7/1 may be my fave. I love the size of the box and I think the art work is THE best of all of the boxes. Just true Dead.

I am just finishing up the 2nd '77 box in the car and will then start the '78 box once again. In the house it has been nothing but the Giants box since it arrived. I have listened to the whole thing, in order 4-5 times. A truly outstanding box. I think the '89 shows may be my faves. If you have not yet pulled the trigger, and you love the Dead, you have got to jump on this while there are still some available.

Rock on

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Just checked UPS tracking and I needed to pay £37.74 plus £11.50. It makes you wonder how they assess the charges? At least it is now paid for so I should see it tomorrow. It should be a good day.

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Iko

even though the first time I heard MSWS 7/18/82 and on the subsequent tape of that show, I really liked it.

both are essentially two chords and a whole lotta choruses

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One of my two box set orders came today for which no charges. The other is due tomorrow (according to an email but 3/10/2020 on the website!) for which I paid a little over £44. Go figure.

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Some say Iko Iko but I say no. Women are Smarter run the Iko like a puppet show.

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Frank/Colin,

My guess is that the correct charge should be 20% of the purchase price in VAT (sales tax) plus the UPS ripoff of £11.50. The (opened) commercial invoice attached to my copy was USD159.98 for the Bluray box which should make the VAT chargable at just under USD32.00 (£25.13 at today's exchange rate). So total charge should be in the order of £36 to £37. Slightly less for the DVD box.

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Depends on the situation......played Women Are all the time, so Iko seemed like more of a treat, but I think I’ve seen/heard them rip it up more on Women are than Iko. Generally speaking, Iko seemed like more a novelty whereas Women Are they could really blast off i.,e 7/4/89, watch the fat man dance not just rock. He and Brentski seemed to really get into the song during this era.....downside they played it a lot, perhaps too much?

EDIt: slow dog, That’s Right!
Dennis, nice video, gotta dig little Mickey, er a little Ricky on the skins!

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The box arrived today in Switzerland and I had to pay 35,55 Swiss Francs to UPS in charges.
But it doesn't matter how much I paid: I'm just happy, finally "in the shadow of giants"!

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I believe there is a show, can’t remember the date, with guests, I think members of the Neville Brothers, where the two songs were played back to back.

Glad to hear that boxes are showing up in Europe. Not sure that a VAT can be applied. What value was added by shipping it across the pond?

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It may be called Value Added Tax but in this situation it is effectively just a sales tax. We pay no sales tax in America on items ordered from there but are obliged to pay it when the goods are imported to Europe.

Goverments have agonized endlessly over downloads. They are unable to find a way to tax them simply because they are unable to know about them.

Apparently my box has just landed in Germany and should be delivered tomorrow.

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They can also charge 20% on the freight charge so that might explain why I had to pay more if the value on the package was shown differently. It’s all swings and roundabouts, sometimes you pay nothing and sometimes you do. At least we should all get the boxset soon.

Dave's Picks. As we look forward to 32, I was thinking where Dave would go for #33. Based on past experience the first picks of the year have been 77 (1, 25 and 29) 74 (9, 13) and 73 (5 and 21).
We know it won't be back to back 73 releases, so I have my money on another 77 release. Maybe late September or October? Unless Dave decides to buck the trend, how about a solid 87? So unlikely, but I would love it.

Right you are, Cone Kid. I was at this one... Ticket to New Years, but most of the third set was not included on the DVD.

12/31/87
Oakland Coliseum Arena - Oakland, CA

Set 1:
Bertha
Promised Land
Cold Rain And Snow
Little Red Rooster
When Push Comes To Shove
When I Paint My Masterpiece
Bird Song
The Music Never Stopped

Set 2:
Hell In A Bucket
Uncle John's Band
Terrapin Station
Drums
The Other One
Wharf Rat
Throwin' Stones
Not Fade Away

Encore (third set):
Man Smart-Woman Smarter
Iko Iko
Banana Boat Song
Knockin' On Heaven's Door

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Here’s a Breakdown of Dave’s Picks (not including 31 or 32)
Year: Total # of Releases/ How Many Releases since../Release.#
69: 2 / 21 / #10
80: 1 / 23 / #8
74: 4 / 14 / #17
81: 1 / 11 / #20
73: 3 / 10 / #21
78: 3 / 8 / #23
72: 3 / 7 / #24
71: 3 / 5 / #26
83: 1 / 4 / #27
76: 3 / 3 / #28
77: 4 / 2 / #29
70: 2 / 1 / #30

- 80 has only had only 1 release, 25 releases ago (including 31&32), so how about Gainesville? But probably not a 1st cycle choice...
- 69 has had 2, but not for 23 releases (including 31&32), Totally due!
- 74 has had 4, but not in 16 releases, how bout 7/25/74! DUE!
- 81 is due, but it won’t be the first cycle...
- 73 were getting next
- that pretty much leaves 72 or 78, the rest have been covered during the last couple years...
78 meh, plenty of 72 to break out! Perhaps some fall 72. What ever it is hopefully it will have a Dark Star.

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As always when this conversation comes up, and someone such as Oroborus kindly assembles a list, I am struck by the fact that there have been 0 releases from 68. Maybe the tapes aren't of good enough quality? However, based on previous series (Road Trips, Dicks,) there seem to be some out there. Perhaps all of the good ones have been mined? Dunno. I for one would like to see a release that features two of the shorter 68 shows... Primordial Dead emerging from the ooze...

Also, I've been really enjoying October 84 shows this month, including today's (10/15). I know there are issues with the recordings being on analog, etc. and I doubt it would be a first run of 2020, but 84 certainly has some killer stuff, and nary a Dave's to show for it!

And as always, what about Gainesville?!? We need a Shakedown in this series!

Peace

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Avalon Ballroom - San Francisco, CA

Disc 1

Set 1: 4-5-69

Dupree's Diamond Blues
Mountains Of The Moon
Dark Star
St. Stephen
Turn On Your Love Light

Set 1: 4-6-69

Good Morning Little School Girl
Beat It On Down The Line
It's All Over Now Baby Blue
I'm A King Bee

Disc 2

Set 2: 4-5-69

Hard To Handle
Cosmic Charlie
China Cat Sunflower
Doin' That Rag
Cryptical Envelopment
The Other One
Cryptical Envelopment
The Eleven
It's A Sin
Alligator
Feedback
And We Bid You Goodnight

Disc 3

Set 2: 4-6-69

Cryptical Envelopment
Drums
The Other One
Cryptical Envelopment
Death Don't Have No Mercy
Turn On Your Love Light

Encore:
Viola Lee Blues
What's Become of The Baby
And We Bid You Goodnight

Two complete shows from 1969.

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Some 69 too.

#33 FourWinds 69 selection
#34 68, 2 shows across 4 discs
#35 7-15-84
#36 Fall 72

I’m ready to subscribe!

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Certainly nothing wrong with this version. This is the year they stretched out the early solo that starts around 3:30. In 1977 the solo lasted about 20 seconds; by Dick's Picks 18 it was almost 2 minutes in duration (Feb 3rd I believe). There is an intensity to the Garcia solo on DP 18 that builds to a fantastic crescendo......and then back into the reggae arrangement; and you can hear the crowd erupt in appreciaton of the rocket ride Jerry just took them on. I don't quiiiite get that out of 7/1, but I'll take just about any '78 Prophet over '77 in a steel cage match.

Iko Iko. I went to JFK on July 7th 1989 with no knowledge of the Grateful Dead except for Touch of Grey, Hell in a Bucket, and Throwing Stones. They opened with Hell in a Bucket - bit of a rocker. Seemed like any other concert as far as the crowd demeanor went. I wouldn't have known there was anything unique about the audience or the band except for the tye dyed apparrel, which I was kind of expecting. And the weed.

After Hell in a Bucket they booted up Iko Iko, and it was as though I'd walked through the wardrobe door into Narnia. The essence of 100,000 Dead Heads came to life across the stadium like a good vibe wave. I saw spinners, smokers, shakers, swayers - hands in the air like they just don't care - all in sync with this contagiously catchy rhythm and melody. And the band was.....what the f**k were they doing up there......yeah, no doubt about it, they were smiling. Having fun. Well shit I thought: if I could get old the way these guys were doing it, don't you know it's gonna be - alright.

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....love the gift that arrived in my mailbox even more by a kind soul here, but I digress.
Spinning 2.27.69 for the first time.
....is it Iko or Aiko? Don't ask me. My tapes are pretty much 60/40 Aiko.

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Love the '78 box, with 7/3 and 7/7 being my favorites of the bunch. Something about 7/7 though just puts it above the rest for me.

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Has anyone else in the UK been sent an imports fees invoice by UPS?

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Yes. I was charged UKP37.37.

Unfortunately, there is no way to avoid this as importation rules in the United Kingdom state that Value Added Tax (VAT, aka Sales Tax) and Customs Duty must be charged on the total cost (including shipping charges) of all goods arriving from outwith the European Union that have a value of more than UKP15.00. For CD's/DVD's, VAT in the UK is currently set at 20% but there is presently no Customs Duty.

My Giants box was sent with a declared total invoice cost of USD159.98 with no shipping cost meaning it attracted a 20% VAT charge of USD31.996 (around UKP25.11 at today's exchenge rate).

All delivery companies then add their own handling charge to cover the cost of collecting the Tax/Duty of behalf of the UK Government. UPS charge UKP11.50, DHL 11.00 and UK Royal Mail 8.00 at present.

What I don't understand is why different people here in the UK have been charged different amounts varying from no charge to UKP47.00.

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Vguy, I can't let that question go unanswered a third time. Only Dick and Heady Version spell it Aiko. Oh, and all of the tapes that circulated in the pre-digital days.

I've had some opportunities to listen to a couple of near-entire releases lately. Geocery store Sunday night - DaP 30 sans the repeats. Went in reverse order (Cold Rain & Snow show first), but I have to admit, I did throw the Dark Star / St. Stephen / The Eleven trifecta into the mix early. While it usually takes me a couple hours to find everything on that damn list, I wasn't taking any chances on missing that group of songs.

Then at work I had a long stretch of time to work at my computer without any phone calls interrupting. I put in the Dave's Picks EIGHTEEN shows, also skipping the repeats. I have to admit I put all of it together in an alternate folder and included the Help / Slip / Franklin from opening night of that Orpheum run. It could have been there... It should have been there... The soundboard quality is almost as good as the release... It's there. And and it's a much better release for it. In situations like that I just make a whole new folder and throw it in my soundboard section. I can't very well have my digital library bastardize like that, so the original theatrical release is in its proper place. The moral of the story is oh, I forgot how great Garcia sounds on this release. Jeffrey Norman needs to listen to how loud Jerry is on this to track and then go back and remix all the multi-tracks with him that loud. Actually I take that back, just give me the multitrack tapes and I'll do the work. I've always been an advocate for releasing Europe 72 in computer software format so we can mix it ourselves. A little distortion here little reverb there..

And in the spirit of '71 I go with this concoction:

Dark Star => Wharf Rat 4/26/71
Dark Star 4/8/71

The 1971 dark stars were mostly shorter ones, as is the case with these two. I like mixing them together with that Wharf Rat in between to mimic Port Chester, 2/18/71. What you end up with is about 35 minutes of no-nonsense bliss.

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Could be wrong, but, I believe "Little Ricky" wasn't Little Ricky, but a child actor who played the part!

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My copy, #3319, has arrived and looks good. I hope to get some time to listen to it in the next day or so. Thanks to everyone at dead.net for continuing to service our need for further releases. The DaP 2020 subscription should become available soon. That will bring the series up to the same length as DP’s.

My last few listens include:
A 5 cd box set of Morton Feldman’s piano music on the Another Timbre label.
Live in Hyde Park by Gong from their ‘Love from Planet Gong’ box set.
A Love Supreme by John Coltrane.
One World by John Martyn.
The Madcap Laughs by Syd Barrett.

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My box arrived at the UPS depot in Rotterdam this morning. Had to pay 46.18 Euros - 30.45 Government charges, 13.00 Brokerage charges and 2.73 VAT. How that is arrived at I don't know, but I paid it online so no hassles with having to have the exact amount in cash at the door. Somewhat later in the morning the status of the delivery changed from "By the end of the day" to "Exception - Due to operating conditions, your package may be delayed". I guess that is a catch-all term that means that something has gone awry but they ain't gonna tell you what. I will wait and see what transpires, as if I haven't waited long enough already...

BILLN

We have to accept the random nature of charges on items coming into the UK. I bought the full ‘30 Trips around the sun’ and didn’t pay a penny in import charges, on another occasion I bought a single cd from bobdylan.com and for some reason once the handling charge was added to the import charge I paid more to collect it than to cost to buy it and have it posted to me..
I have come to accept whatever the charge is. I think I am probably still ahead overall on charges.
These charges are why I no longer order non-exclusive items from dead.net. The November release would cost me around £22 from dead.net when postage costs are added and there might be a further cost if the disc attracts import charges. The same disc is no more than £9.99 from Amazon.co.uk since I have a pre-order price guarantee which means it could get cheaper and I don’t have to pay any postage.

Good to see boxes begin to arrive outside the US. I hope your first listens will be in line with mine. Great sound, inspired performances.

I have to admit though.., this release is starting to lose it's new box smell. But with some deep tracks from '73 just two weeks away, I should be ok.

After a couple/few listens.. there is one small item that is beginning to agitate my skip finger.. I think I saw Throwing Stones>NFA a couple (or a couple dozen) times too many. I know there are many that really like these two songs, but to me it had become formulaic and predictable by the mid to late 80's... well, for me it just doesn't go down as my all-time favorite song duo. I'll take a GDTRFB>NFA over TS>NFA any day of the week. First world problems I know. Still, a big thumbs up on this box after a couple weeks of listening.

It also motivated me to hit a few other 80's shows. There were some high energy shows during this period. I didn't have my reading glasses on last night, and accidentally dialed the wrong show and hit play. I didn't start at the beginning rather post space, and then the fun was to try and figure out what show I was listening to. By the time She Belongs To Me came on, I knew it was Dick's Picks 21, 11/1/85. The Gimme Some Lovin' is pretty sloppy, but don't let that distract you from how high energy it is and even with some miscues they do a pretty good job of keeping it together and dialing the energy up. Jerry, in particular, kept things in high gear until the end until he delicately slides into She Belongs to Me. What a wonderful song. I wish they played this more than the ten times they did. And I forgot about the bonus tracks 9/2/80, Space>Iko Iko (that's how it was spelled on this release, but it was released posthumously after Dick left us)>Morning Dew>SleepyTimeInMD. I always liked this released, but I perhaps I am biased.

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Billn- got my second box today. First no charges, second £44 so balances out ok. Relieved. In a couple of weeks will probably forget that I promised not to buy 2020 DaP!

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...Missed this anniversary by one day but it's still close enough for a shout out - 10/15/89 is a pretty great show (IMHO) but is often overshadowed by it's fully-released brother, 'Nightfall of Diamonds'.

And contrary to Jimmy's stated lost love for TS > NFA, this one has it - but I am in the same camp Jimbo, I'll take a NFA > GDRFB any day . But this pairing does the job nicely, and the Not Fade Away is fairly jammed out. And who can really complain about a NFA chant to bring the boys back?

But the real treat for me is the Crazy Fingers as well as the Estimated > Eyes; I mean, check out Jerry's midi-work on that Estimated. He's playin' a frickin' xylophone at one point. Totally cool although not for everyone. The Eyes rips along nicely, too. I'm a sucker for said paring.

The first set is pretty good too - I always liked 'Let the Good Times Roll' as an opener - it, well, gets the good times rollin'. And, after a closer listen I'm now hearing the 'Victim or the Crime' here is the same one from Without a Net. Naughty, definitive. Which makes sense. Given that we know the next night's performance was recorded to 24-track, that means this show was too I would assume, in consideration of its appearance on W/O A Net. I'd love to see this one officially released. Would make a perfect companion piece.

https://archive.org/details/gd1989-10-15.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.8329…

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Dennis, say it ain’t so, but right you are. All those years growing up watching Lucy we had no clue!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Keith_(actor)

9/2/80, believe that was my first Dew? Front row by Phil. First GA front row show, at good ole Crotchfester, and a real beauty eh! Wish they had the rest of the tapes for that one...
Stones/NFA; yeah, saw that combo a bit too much over the years. Like any, if the galaxy aligned and the Xfactor was working I liked any song they did, but sometimes it was “oh, bummer, not again” Eventually it got so formulaic that you could predict The second set, if not the whole show.....”oh, their doing the key of E stuff, and they did Dew last night, so bummer, Stones/NFA tonight boys”......or some such banter. For a while it was mostly the NFA we were tired of, but then Stones/Lovelight kinda took its place and Bob burned that out too, imho....
Sorry, don’t mean to be negative, just after 40 something years there are some tunes it helps to be in the mood for...
Anyway, so far that’s my only nit pick with this box, too many Stones/NFA....

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I saw the guys numerous times, acoustic and electric, and they were always Hot!

Back in '75 they had a habit of playing all night. They played at my college, and at midnite they went off and they asked the TPTB if they could continue all night. They were told no, but that they could play one more song as an encore. So they came out and played one more tune FOR AN HOUR! Lol. The whole show, J & J were drinking something out of this bong type thing, so maybe that had something to do with their stamina! We were talking to them back stage and Jorma dropped his guitar pick. As he bent to reach for it, my friend stepped on his hand! I thought the whole show was going up in smoke! But no damage was done.

Saw them in 2001 at the Kent Community Center in Kent, CT. Google that place! You cannot even believe anybody would play there. We were in the 2nd row. They had a stage that was about 2 feet off the ground. It was just Jorma & Jack on 2 folding chairs, playing acoustic. AMAZING! It was like seeing them in my living room. I think these guys aged better then JA did.

Rock on

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Funny to hear Gimme Some Lovin' and Throwing Stones in the same discussion, since I downloaded the two of them on the same day several years ago. There was a time when I was a casual Dead fan, and I had just recently picked up on the Jam in the middle of Throwing Stones. So like the addictive personality I am, I went in online to supplement my collection of Dead music, which at that time was pretty much all of the nationally released multi-tracks.

The Throwing Stones were all pretty good, but I enjoyed the Download Series best, with the Reprise. Some fine fine synth support while Jerry tears up the solo, and then there's another 5 minutes of the jam in the Throwing Sones "reprise", which is really just visiting the jam portion of the song again. This is glue. Strong stuff.

I downloaded the following in that period:

Dick's Picks 21:
* Gimme Some Lovin'
* Gloria"

Dick's Picks 17:
* Throwing Stones
* The Mighty Quinn

Dick's Picks 27 :
* Throwing Stones
* Baba O'Riley
* Tomorrow Never Knows

Road Trips Vol. 4 No. 2
* Throwing Stones

Download Series 11:
* Throwing Stones
* Throwing Stones [Reprise]

In The Dark Bonus Track:
* Throwing Stones (Live)

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I agree with Sixtus this was a sneaky hot show that got overshadowed by the next night.

Good Times -> Aiko opener was so much fun
Very good Victim and SOTM
Not a clunker in set 2

If they would have played the Let it Grow that Bobby started to go into after STOM would have been even better!

Great call Sixtus!

So about that DSO show in Pittsburgh. I had a blast! Lost my voice and sore as heck the next day from dancing. Met some kind folks too. As for the music I think the songs are very well played. Can’t wait to see them again. My lingering thought is how lucky I was to have seen the real thing 🙂✌🏻

I ended up having to be in DC Saturday, so no DSO Saturday for me. Next year for sure.

Love the Hot Tuna discussion. Great band with lots of history. They put out an under the radar CD called and Furthurmore about 20 years ago that never seems to come up in discussion, but I'd personally put it above Burgers. I think it was recorded during the 1998 Furthur Festival tour or something like that. Long out of print, but I bet of you poke around it will present itself...

Hot Tuna seems to be putting out newly released digital only shows like mad these days.. It seems every other day Tuna or King Crimson are letting something slip out of their vault.. Perhaps I should start buying more of them..

Good timing for a palate cleanser, no new GD music for a couple weeks...

https://www.amazon.com/Furthurmore-Hot-Tuna/dp/B00001U05F/ref=sr_1_1?ke…

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I forgot about that one KF, thanks for the reminder. I just put on the whole kit 'n kaboodle. I think '91 was their best year since '77.

KF that ppst you wrote with list of Philly shows you went to. You seriously had tickets to a Motley Crue show and didn't go in so you could do balloons? Did you just lose track of the time or what happened that's crazy.

Jim I did not picture you as a reading glasses guy :8

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Your from Sudbury right? You feeling this rain/wind storm? 10-4 in Framingham.

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Springfield

Just saying

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Theres a lot of CRAP on TV

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It's Iko Iko on this box set. Weird how they change the spelling of it from time to time.

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Down in Stamford CT for work, wow what a storm and wind and rain the last 5 hours!!! What a way to end the first set of this show. I was there, wet cold and tired after the first hot day followed by two days of non stop rain!! Lawn seats so no shelter.... Watch it on Youtube..Jerry's vocals on Desolation Row will just melt you if you have never listened to this version or not a fan of this song. Just listen to "Between the windows of the sea where lovely mermaids flow".... with Jerry singing along.. And then the Deal is just insane... the jam is awesome... my friend from Vermont that was with me was cooked and wanted to leave, and i said you won't want to after you hear this song....... we didn't.. be safe New England friends... Bob t

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