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  • HeadwayGraphixx
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    All of you mac users should pick up xACT from Versiontracker.com. It can encode, decode .flac & .shn as well as extract CD's and even write .flac tags. xACT is ALL you need. If your transfering your tapes, I'd really recomend that unless these are your masters, check bt.etree.org there are so many shows going at all times in both .shn and .flac. Chances are stuff straight from the masters are already done. If your transfring your masters, then seek out either a eridol UA-1X.http://www.onlinemusicstore.com.au/index.php?page=showProduct&id=ROEDUA… Which takes RCA to a USB device. This will offer much cleaner signal than the analog (mic) input on your mac. There are other devices out there so a little google search. For recording and editing I recomend SOund Studio. It's NOT free but not much money at all. Most new mac come with it already loaded. It's a nice basic editor. Audacity works well also, however since it is a cross platform program (windows and mac and even linux i believe). The interface is not very mac like and clunky. Again loads of options out there. Check versiontracker.com for pretty much any software you may need for the the mac. A lot of them are freeware most are shareware that costs very little. Hope this helps some to the fellow macheads out there. I'm not on here alot but I'll try and check back in. Also if your looking to get into recording shows or even alot of these transfer questions. Tons of info is available at http://www.taperssection.com. You have to register to post but there is a ton of people taping just about everything under the sun. Loads of info.
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    This stuff is right down my other hobbies alley. I love anything to do with RF and the funny thing is that even when Dan was doing this in the late 80s I didnt get more info. Its good to have that little slice of stuff to put into the ol noggin. I do have a few tapes of the earbud "stage" in the 90s where bobby is saying "I need more Vince" etc... I also recall being at the CalExpo run in 1992 when they were gettting used to the ear buds and they all kept messing with their ears etc.... Thanks for the info guys.Eric
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    ...shall we go, you and I while we can... hhmmmmm...not to get off topic here, but suffice it to say that if the band was gonna worry about federal agencies investigating them,probably the FCC wasn't at the top of the list! If you have any kind of FM recording, then you might look around for a piece of old audio gear called a "compander". As the name implies, it has the capacity to compress or expand a signal. Garage sales might be a good bet, 'cause I think they stopped makin' 'em in the mid-seventies. Theoretically, they would improve the sound of any FM signal. Fred, you're welcome! Always nice to be able to shine a little light on stuff like this.Actually the Deer Creek example I used above is the only one I know of, and it's Phil's ear bud that's on the recording.If you're not hearing the voice of a band member before and between some songs,it's not the real deal. Caveat Emptor!
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    Thanks for the knowledge paisley It was somethig I had heard about, but never could confirm, and I had never heard one of those recordings. Would love to hear any of the earbud recordings if anyone wants to trade, Thanks.
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    Im not shure of the actual frequencies or eqpt that Healy was running, but I have many tapes from the 88 east coast runs that were recorded that way. I understand that Healy knew that his brodcasts were illegal . Not sure if the FCC caught on to itand thats why he stopped or if he decided to move onto another medium.
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    ...shall we go, you and I while we can... FM frequencies were used to accomplish the wireless transmission of the soundboard mix to speaker arrays as early as 1987, probably before. The way it worked was like this: Healy would select a low bandwidth frequency on the FM dial that was not being used by local radio. He would then send the board feed to that channel, with equipment just like a radio station would broadcast a signal. Speaker arrays would function like radio receivers and pick up the signal and send it out to the hall, or remote locations (you may remember that at places like the Greek Theater, there was a field outside the venue where you could hear the show even if you didn't have a ticket). So, Fred, you only "heard" that FM signal if you had an FM receiver in the show, or in your car,or at an alternate location(and knew the signal number on the dial) . Remember that FM signals are inferior to the "live" sound because FM involves a lot of signal compression, which dramatically effected the mid-range sound. Healy compensated for that on the array end by using "expanders" essentially to decompress the compressed FM sound. In short, even if you had a recording of the FM feed, it would be inferior to the feed from the board, which is where it came from prior to being compressed. There was no direct feed from the stage, just the monitor mix which Harry Popick controlled through most of the late seventies,and only the band heard through the stage monitors. Some one may have those compressed FM recordings, but I doubt it, since none have really surfaced in circulation. Yes, Fred, with the advent of the ear bud monitors in the nineties,anyone in the band could speak directly to the board mixer. This was accomplished through a "defeat" mode that would stop the signal from a microphone from going anywhere but to the board mixer's headphones.This allowed each member to give the board mixer feedback on how to mix the sound for each players ear bud system. So by the nineties, there were seven different mixes being performed just for the musicians on-stage! Pretty complicated,eh? And, none of them were hearing the house mix or each other if they didn't want to! Some of these ear bud tapes have surfaced (eg. Deer Creek '95 as the gates were crashed). What's interesting about these recordings is that they contain individual members telling the board mixer who to turn up or down in their mix. So, by 1993 or so, the band that thrived on improvisation by listening to one another had developed the capacity to literally turn off other players in the band. I believe this had a striking effect on the quality of the performance for obvious reasons. Generally, the quality of these recordings is inferior to the board mix, but a few exist. BTW, the band used FM in one other way. Beginning with "Shakedown Street", Healy picked a low frequency FM band in San Rafeal and broadcast tracks from the studio tapes and rehearsals on it so the band members could listen to them while in their cars to and from the studio on Front Street. This was supposed to help them finish a record on deadline(HAH!) but a little sidetrip to Egypt got in the way... Hope that answers your questions, Fred.
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    Does anyone rember what form was used with the so called fm frequencies that some folks picked up on. What I rember is that in some arenas one could tap into the frequency that was coming from the stage to the board. Essentially you could tap into that frequency and make a recording that way. You would pretty much get the music before it hit the soundboard and then it was sent out to the house speakers. Does anyone have any of those recordings or was that just a myth? Also in the later years they had a foot pedal they could hit and talk directly to the board without it going through th PA. It would be fun to hear some of those conversations!!!!!
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    So has anyone used the Sound Devices 722 or the Korg Mr 1000? If so what do you think? ~Make us SNAPPY!~
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    ...But this is what this place is for!! I go away for a couple days and come back to find a couple new pages on tape>CD copying. YEA! Im jazzed to see what you all are doing out here to combat moving into the 21st/22nd century etc.... Ive taken on a mentor somewhat and looked into the Torrent side of transfer (BitTorrent>FLACfrontend>Sonic CD Burner). Id say in the last week I have DLd 3-4 shows and have modem chuggin' along as I type. I am still glad to hear that there is intrest in the transfer of cassette to CD too! I will diffently look into those suggestions mentioned in the last pages and try a few things. I will eventually give my 1500 hours away after all is said and done so those who want to have a real nice and large tape collection will want to conatct me when it gets down to that... PeaceEric
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    actually, pais...
    I'm not sure this would be such a stretch as a business expense. After all, the primary use of my iPod is to record interviews, like the D6 and the minidisc before it. And it would sure solve the problem of dumping that Jerry interview to CD before the tape rots in a more efficient fashion than any of the other options. The issue is more one of rather more urgent things to do with any extra bux that may come along--took me forever to afford the iPod! But at least it's good to know what's out there. And now, back to your regular discussion!
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Lately, I've had significant delays in successfully completing downloads from bt.etree.org. Is there a torrent tool to ease the process? I routinely clear space on my hard drive to enable storage, but the download speed is intolerably S L O W
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I have 1000+ GD show tapes with about 150 masters of either soundboard>D5 or various studio quality mics to D5 or Nak 550. I'm planning a once-in-a-lifetime transfer of these cassette tapes to digital and would like to discuss with an experienced individual issues such as analog playback, A/D hardware/conversion rates, and software. Thanks, John
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help! i knew how to download shows onto my pc from telasugarmegs. now i have a macbook and i can't figure out what to do. can someone help me? i am not that swift when it comes to computer stuff. you can email me at teenymonkey@hotmail.com or leave a message here.
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I just bought some Memorex DVD+R and the first 5 would not work. At first I thought my burnner was busted. Then my wife game me some HP dvds she had and they worked fine. I tried some in the middle of the Memorex stack and they worked too, I was just the first 5 that didnt. Has this ever happened to anyone else??
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Never had a problem with Memorex CDs, must've burned like 3000 by now, and it's only recently I've started burning DVDs (this damn vine addiction, I tell ya ) so I naturally picked Memorex. Now, occasionally, I'll have an issue burning DVDs (near the end of a burn my screen will go black and I have to do a hard reboot; it's happened with two different burning programs) but I don't think it's disc related - then again, wouldn't hurt to try the hp's. Especially with Vinezilla approaching ;*D ! Always thought that Memorex guy in the chair getting his hair blown back was pretty cool, though. Maybe you just got a bad stack of discs. I did get a bad stack once, but they were obviously damaged and I got them returned/replaced. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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Ok, so I am new to all of this and no matter how I try, I cannot copy the files properly. I right click in tapers section and copy to my desktop. It does not offer me to download. Once copied to desktop I think its as an html, I cannot do anything with it. I have iTunes on my computer if that makes any difference... I look forward to the assistance because in my world marriage and 2 boys has been one long strange trip and at times I just need to get back to the good ole grateful dead.
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the tapers section clips are streaming only, no download.
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Thanks. so that means its for our listening enjoyment only when we are online and not when we please right?
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Yes, sbarer, you can only listen when online, you can't download them and burn them on CD.
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hey i posted a bit ago if anyone could help me with telasugarmegs and a mac. any takers???
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I've never messed with the sugarmegs site, but just from reading over it a bit it looks like the site wants Windows Media Player. I'm guessing there is a version of WMP that's ported to the Mac operating system, you might install it and see if sugarmegs is then happy with your Mac. Alternatively, Microsoft has Media Player plugins that will allow the Mac's built-in Quicktime software to deal with Media Player files. Here's the Microsoft webpage to get you started: www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/mac/default.aspx Hope this helps, MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************
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With the 09' tour tickets coming up for sale next week, does anyone know if they are still doing taper tickets?? I'm just trying to get my ducks in a row. Thanks for any replys... Capturing Live Audio...One Show At A Time...http://db.etree.org/gratefulbrad
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Would any of the vinners/seeders be interested in a vine with the Trader's Little Helper program. I could include TLH and some easy to follow instuctions, and maybe some cool shn/flac files to practice with. Even if some of you dont keep the shn/flac files in the vines, your cd's will sound better if they were burnt from them instead of wav. If anyones interested we could get it started.
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I am looking for info on taper ticket ordering procedure. GDTSToo isnt clear on the pricing for the tickets. I could use some assistance if anyone in the know could help with questions plz call me (334)354-5998. Or post a link with a tutorial from the ground up on how to get tix, to best equipment, to do's and donts. I am pretty green, but eager to learn.~Philip 42% of all statistics are made up.
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The prices are clear...true. They just dont indicate if you have to pay for the higher tier tickets for taper tickets. And in the case of Greensboro there are 3 pricing tiers. I found out from the GD hot line that all the taper tix must be purchased at the upper tier price except shoreline which offers taper tickets for the lawn. I am not sure which of the upper tier prices is required for Greensboro. Any other info is always appreciated. I am brand new at this so pardon my ignorance in advance, if I dont sound like an old pro, or make common sense assumptions that a veteran taper would. ~Philip 42% of all statistics are made up.
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I've mailed away to GDTS for taper's tix for the cali shows on the spring tour. If I get them what equipment do I need to tape the shows? How does the tapers section work? I've always dreamed of recording the shows I was at, and this is my first chance. Any help will be much appreaciated. thx Longrifle
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i made a vid using 2 tunes as background for a video I made and just found it was pulled for copyright violation - it said --- Your video, Grateful Fest 2008, may have audio content from Not Fade Away/Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad by The Grateful Dead that is owned or licensed by WMG. any suggestions from anyone on what to do - or am I at the mercy of WMG? pat in ohio
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GD Management mite call it copy right enfringement, what if you used dso tunes for gdtrfeelin bad, etc.,etc., could they get you for that??? Dude, just let me add that was a great U-tube video!!!! I hate to see it go, it really captured the essence of Nelsons Ledges!!Phatmoye
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(and others)--if you use a commercially released track for a YouTube video, yes, it is very likely to trigger the great RIAA computer in the sky and put the kibosh on your video. This is pretty much not news these days; it's related to the fact that when you import a purchased CD into iTunes, voila, it instantly knows what it is. That's the world in which we operate these days, for good or ill. If anyone runs into this issue with, say, the live version they taped in 1986, please say more.
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I don`t even copy vines or anything while i`m on line ... you never know what the great computer in the sky will do , or think ....
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RE: Longrifle - Taper's Tix / what equipment do I need to tape the shows. I see nobody has posted back for your question, so I'll try to answer it. You need to figure on being self sufficient (meaning being able to set your rig up independently - with no power or audio feeds) - but ready to capitalize on opportunities, if they arise (meaning have the patch cords available to take advantage if someone offers you a patch into the board). I would say, at a minimum, the equipment would be as follows: Battery powered tape recorder + extra batteries, Microphones & stands, Patch cords & head phones for monitoring, blank tapes. (or, these days, you could use a direct to hard drive recorder, if you have one). I don't believe they allow video recording, but I'm not sure on that. You could practice setting up your "rig" and recording various things, just to see how it goes & what you need. A collapsable stool *like a coleman camp stool) would be great, so you don't have to stand the entire time. PM me if you want more detailed information.
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Anyone know of a good source for itunes artwork when playing bootlegs? I've got about a 50:50 ratio of bootlegs & concerts (which don't have artwork) vs. owned albums & cds (which have artwork). Thanks
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I downloaded an old Stones concert last night (KC I.rar) I unzipped it, extracting the files to another folder where I now have several files w suffix .m4p Any idea how to put these on a cd? Are they similar to .wav and how do I convert ? First right answer gets a copy!
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http://www.psilo.com/dead/ This site has a ton of images of tickets, backstage passes and laminates listed by year and then by show. I just right click on an image, copy it and paste it into iTunes. It is great for bootleg shows. If you can't find an image there you might try wolfgangsvault.com. If all else fails I do a google image search for The Grateful Dead and copy something from there.
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I'd like to send my D7 DAT with a friend to the upcoming Shoreline show in May, to patch in with someone. I can't make it, unfortunately. Can any tapers who will be there send me a PM? Thanks.
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Hi folks,3 friends and I want to go in on abunch of digital downloads... we can't afford them solo. Anyone know how it would work if we try to share a few different shows on 4 or 5 computers. We aren't trying to pirate, etc... just get the music so we can afford it... thanks, Eric
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I have a question, attached to an enigma, wrapped in a conundrum. When I DL a torrent from somewhere like etree, I end up with a file with a name like gd71-10-21newd1t11.wav (after I convert from the flac or shn, only to wav lossless you understand, no mp3 for me!) There is no information attached to the file such as artist, track title, etc. that a file sharing program can recognize as a Grateful dead song. I have over 1000 shows on my drive I'd like to share. Is there a way to tell Windows to recognize ALL the files in a folder as a Grateful Dead song? I don't have time to go through 20,000 files and hit properties for each file and add the info. I guess I know what you are going to tell me already - I should just set up a site for file sharing and offer all this kind stuff as torrents. OK I just talked myself into it. Here's part 2 of the dillemma. I am pretty good with end-user stuff, but I've never even set up anything more complicated than a Myspace page. Dan anyone steer me to a source for step-by-step directions to set up a website with an archive that people can DL torrents from? I can tell your future, just look what's in your hand!
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can anyone help a brutha out. I need a few vhs dead stuff transfered to dvd. Of course you can have a copy. bruce
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Like duh. (Re: Alpine 89) No, I don't have any tapes to trade but I can and do produce professional quality audio. If anyone would like help polishing up a memory, I can certainly help with this. I'm actually looking for a full-length video of 7-19-89, as this is one of my personal memories, but I'll do this for free... just because I love you. ; ) (And, if such a thing should ever surface on the net, have faith that the proper credits will be given due in the tags and text.) My web addy is posted in my profile. Cheers.
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My server is down for a bit, but I don't want this floating and floating around out there anyway, so I uploaded these to a temporary host; if the files remain inactive for a month, they are automatically deleted. (Simply go down to the bottom of the linked pages and follow the link there to download.) Now... this is, more or less, a simple cleanup job. It can be taken a step or two further, depending on how loud and glassy one likes their audio (there is a sort of integrity with analogue recordings that can be a real touchy issue with audiophiles and, believe me, I understand completely) but, basically, what I am saying is that if you give me one of these: http://www.filefactory.com/file/a18a28h/n/DireWolf1.mp3 I can give you one of these: http://www.filefactory.com/file/a18a29b/n/DireWolf2.mp3 That's all! Enjoy.
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On archive.org when I download the mp3 files how do I access it on Windows Media Player? When I try to extract it, there are two copies of all the files and deleting one will delete the other. Is there a way to do this? Thank you.
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I have a new laptop with Windows 7. I have no state of the art audio software on it. I downloaded a bit torrent client called Vuze: it did eventually grab a feed off of eTree. Now that I have a bunch of FLAC files, what software works to convert the flacs to wav's? My XP pro desktop computer is now slower than molasses, but it does have an old converter called Flac Frontend. Does it work on Windows 7? Does anyone still use shn files? What's the best program for converting them? Ideally, one program for both file extensions is what I want. I have Windows Media as a player.
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Ok depending on what your doing with these files, to be honest its' best to leave them in flac, they sound better. But if you want to put them into Itunes you have to convert to mp3. So long story short the BEST media player around is free. It's called Winamp. It plays streams, flacs, mp3s, movies...almost everything. You don't have to use it for everything ( I use 4 different media players for reasons I won't bore you with) but this is my main one. You can also convert using this program. Which I will link up for you a help file. Winamp Converter Help Page Hope that helps. Critter ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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what you need is Traders Little Helper (TLH). It does all sorts of conversions. It's what I and many others use. http://tlh.easytree.org/ Its quite easy to work out, this vid shows you how if you need help http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjtvZGyWGAo but you will need a CD burning programme too once you have converted FLACs and SHNs to WAV with TLS. There should be a CD burner bundled in whatever is installed on your computer or there are lots you can download. Try burn4free.com good luck. PM me if you have any problems PM me if you need any more detailed help
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I just posted this in a different forum topic but anyone know a great freeware program that converts WAV to MP3? Does winamp do it? Please pm me or post the link here if you have a suggestion. Thanks in advance!
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to CD then rip the CD to MP3
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...thanks zepthompson that is a good idea, it would work...however for the sheer volume of the WAVs I need to do I would be wasting too many cdrs...still wondering about winamp...
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I am using Windows Media Player or Yahoo MusicMatch Jukebox to burn downloads or vines and I am wondering how to eliminate the pause between songs. Just cant seem to figure out how.. I know the people around here know their stuff and sure I will be pointed in the right direction. Thanks
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I am using Audacity to convert wav to mp3. I needed to install an additional .dll file but it was still fairly easy to do. Thanks for the input!
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Well, I suppose you can swat flies with hand grenades if you want to. You might also want to check out vlc. On linux, there is a nice simple, easy to use, lightweight tool called Gnome SoundConverter that will cheerfully render entire directories full ot tracks from one encoding format into a variety of others, including mp3 and OggVorbis. Since it's based on the gstreamer backend and built with GTK+ though, I wouldn't be looking for a windows port anytime soon. Or probably ever. As for burning seamless CD's, again on linux there is a tool called K3B that makes this rather simple. Just specify a gap of zero seconds between tracks and voila. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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I'am interested in an hdcd player. Does anyone know who maufactures them? Are they worth the cost? Thanks from the frozen North.
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Allis185: On my desktop pc, I use both Nero or Roxio's EZ CD Creator to make audio cd's composed with .wav files. In order to record or copy from a "good" cd, or from individual .wav files if you're custom-making a song list, select the Disc-At-Once (DAO) feature before recording or copying. I do not know if any free software will have the DAO function.
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.hey so i have been thinking about recording shows but have no idea where to start..like which mic's to use what kinda of recorder to buy ...etc... .any certain book to explain all the technical stuff.. do i need my own mixing board... my wife is part of the local music scene i realy what to record her jaming out. any info on where to start is highly appreciated.
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people record so much stuff on their phones and upload it to YouTube, I'm curious to know what the more serious are using...
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So I finally got my rig up and running and recorded my first show. The band is The Van Burens and they are amazingly good. Please take a listen and tell me what you think of my recording. If you really want to know about my rig sp c-4 > art preamp> pcm-m10. This track is raw no editing at all. jeffrey's world by muddy das
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Definiteky, for a first try. And the tune is quite good too. What instrument does your wife play?
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actual my is not on that but she does play tenor sax. The band is the van burens you should check them out. I think you would appreciate their sense of political humor.
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Hey gang,Does anyone know of an easy to use program that can tag cover art to MP3 files? (for ex: some nice artwork was created for the "30 Days of the Dead" MP3's. How do I tag the artwork to the files?) Thanks! Peace, Chris