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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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    This is not eBay. If you have something you want to give away or sell at cost I think that is reasonable. You have been known to sell things at higher than cost to people on this web site.

    You said something in defense of yourself and your business practices on the public forum when you were selling Stanley Mouse stuff a couple of months ago. It sounded like you had somebody complain prior to the Stanley Mouse artwork you were peddling, and you were trying to discredit that person before they spoke out.

    It wasn't that long ago that you told me you needed CDs burned of the Fillmore West 1969 box set. I offered to help because you said you were going blind. You also said how grateful you are and that you would give me exclusive information on the shows that would be included in the 2019 box set that was released this year. I spent hours trying to convert the FLAC files that I have of Fillmore West 1969 into something that you could play, not because you offered me information that you really didn't have, but because I would do that for anyone indeed, especially someone who allegedly went blind. But then it got weird. You kept stringing me along on the PM, saying that you would tell me in a couple days and then a couple days would come by and you would just say something generic like "oh it's going to be so good you're not going to believe how good it is. It will be Primo". Or "soon very soon my friend". I think what happened was you realized that it was going to take me a lot longer to figure out how to convert Flac files into something I could burn onto CD, and you ran out of excuses to sell me because you didn't really know what the box that was going to be.

    Anyway this ain't eBay pal. I'm pretty sure it's somewhere in the bylaws it says you can't sell stuff here.

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    Sixtus - Thinking About You (Been There Myself)

    Sixtus:

    I'm very sorry to hear about your father's condition, and hope you will accept the sympathy of all of us.

    Having your parent go through an impending death situation is never nice or easy. My own father was going through a situation with congestive heart failure, and we lost him about 3 days prior to Christmas about 4 years ago. While I'm single, my brother is married, has 2 sons, and it was an awkward time for him to separate those observances for the purpose of remembering them so they aren't inextricably associated in his family's minds. I can't help but think of the similarity of that to what you're going through.

    I'm 2000 miles away from where Dad lived (and where I grew up), was planning on visiting him in mid-January, but alas, had to rapidly change travel arrangements to be there for the memorial. That certainly sounds kind of selfish, I know, but it's done, and I had to balance competing responsibilities (and while he understood that, I still regret it). The one thing the memory of that tells me, is not to try to defer any unfinished business I have with someone I care about - serious matters of health don't wait for or respect human traditions (the "end-game" occurred very rapidly for him- when his health began to slide it was done in a span of about 2 days). Details of the arrangements he took great care to talk to me about when we lost my mother about 13 years prior, so what my brother didn't know, I did and could fill in whatever gaps there were, so we knew his wishes were carried out.

    Thinking about you.

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    Jerry and Van Gogh

    Great comparison, and one that has never occurred to me before. Van Gogh' paintings are absolutely stunning if you ever get the chance to see the originals. The first time I came across them was in 1991, when I was in Amsterdam. I went into the Rijksmuseum just because I happened to stumble across it-I had no real knowledge or interest in Van Gogh. But I was transfixed...so many extraordinary paintings, and the more I gazed at them the more moved I was by what I was seeing. Definitely the unexpected highlight of the trip.

    The famous painting The Sunflowers is hung up in a London gallery, and I saw that again a few months ago. I walked into the room, and it was hanging at the end of the large room. And it was shining...I could see it even from a distance. You get closer, and it looks as though it is lit from within. Its...well, I say all sorts of things are amazing...but this really is.

    Back to Jerry, he did develop his tone, as opposed to John Cipollina, who as far as I can tell, found his sound and kept to it. Would it be fair to say that Jerry was initially inspired by drugs, and then confined by them? Maybe a bit presumptuous. But certainly in the first 10 years of the Dead's life, at least, he seemed able to stretch the imagination in way no other guitarist I have ever heard quite can or could. And believe me, I have heard a few.

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    Jerry and Van Gough

    I love the tones Jerry was able to get from his guitars throughout his career.. even in the acoustic days, his picking was clean and he seemed to always have a recognizable tone. Playing in the Band and Estimated Prophet are great examples but there are many. As his career progressed, so did his experimentation with tones (and guitars). Listen to Stella Blue or Loser over the years for example.. there was a progression.

    I took a bunch of art classes in college for fun and I remember reading about Van Gough at some point. There was talk about his use of colors, specifically Oranges and Yellows. There were lots of theories that his epilepsy and the drugs taken to control it combined with perhaps the absinthe he loved to drink (contains a toxin called Thujone, which when taken in high doses also makes ones vision skewed towards oranges and yellows) might explain why his paintings often reflected those qualities. That is how he might have actually seen things.

    I always equated Jerry's tone to similar qualities but instead of absinthe his drink of choice, at least in the early years, was Prankster Juice.

    Anyway.. silly and unprovable observation, but I do consider Jerry a tonal genius much as I consider Van Gough a genius of color. Since the topic came up I thought I would put pen to paper, I don't think I have ever discussed this thought before with anyone. I still think there is perhaps more than a thread of truth in this.

    Finally.. a friend shot me something on Meyer Sound this morning and it got me poking around in a few places. There was a pretty decent article on Jerry and his guitars which sort of circles this whole discussion that I found quite interesting. A pretty big topic for a Friday afternoon. TGIF!!

    https://www.guitarplayer.com/players/how-jerry-garcia-revolutionized-th…

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    LMG how much for WL 1977

    And what kind of condition is it in?

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    Great tones

    Both the Alligator and the Wolf sounded superb with whatever amps they were powered through...but for me the supreme tone was sourced with the mighty Gibson SG during 1969 and 1970. Sometime during 1969, Jerry started playing a sunburst strat at some of the shows, but the SG continued to make regular appearances, and can still be heard, I believe, to devastating effect, at Binghampton 5/2/70.
    But those Fillmore West shows from February-March 1969 may be the best recorded example of just how perfect that guitar sound was. I have never heard anybody get a better sound out of a Gibson SG. Apart from John Cipollina.

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    Thanks for letting me know about the PM problem. I thought I was going nuts every time I saw the message I wrote come back as sent to me. I do talk to myself sometimes, but rarely do I write to myself.

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    Yeah, I know, and I've reported it to the tech folks so they're working on it. So sorry for the extra layer of aggravation.
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    PM's

    New PM's are not going through. Unless you reply to an existing, good PM thread whatever you send to someone else is only sent to you.

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    GDM is just fine?

    Now the calendar has shipped, so I don't have any complaints about my order from six weeks ago. (other than the lag time between order and shipment . . . )

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Ok purchased the last ten days or so...

Fleetwood Mac_Before the Beginning...live '68 & '70 shows spread over three discs
The Kinks_Arthur Box Set
Jimi_The Complete Band Of Gypsy's at The Fillmore East
Rolling Stones_Bridges to Buenos Aires
Various Artists_100 Blues Classics
Wes Montgomery_The Riverside years

plus a couple of new (to me) Charlie Miller boards from '74...can you tell it was just my birthday? and I have a few things still on the way....life is good....

You can make listening your new career once you have retired. Definite advantage to clocking on a bit.

I didn't know that the Complete Band of Gypsies had been released...maybe an appropriate one for Christmas.

Best non Dead listen for me has been The Final Bow box by The Pretty Things. A two cd, two dvd ( same music on cd as dvd) and 10" vinyl - signed copy if you are in the first 500. This was purportedly their final gig last December, and your humble correspondent was right in there. A tremendous gig and recording from one of Britain's best and most underrated r n b and psych bands of the 60s. Van Morrison and Dave Gilmour join the band-Dave Gilmour playing on no less than 6 tracks-including a roof raising 13+ minute version of Pretties classics LSD/Old Man Going. No home should be without one.

The actual name for the Hendrix box is "Songs For Groovy Children_The Fillmore East Concerts" Where they got that title I have no idea unless it's something Jimi says during one of the shows...I've had these shows on ok sounding board boots forever but it's nice to hear them this clean...

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Submitted by bob t on Sat, 11/23/2019 - 11:16

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From 1973, check out 11/23/73 El Paso Coliseum. Only time they ever played in El Paso. The show wasn't circulated back in tape trading days, Dead Base VI only has that they played Weather Report Suite.... 3 versions on internet archive. Good quality... Good cool fall day show to listen. Good weekend everyone... bob t

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sat, 11/23/2019 - 13:13

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I'm feeling pretty grooovy this Saturday afternoon, and I hope you all are as well! (Anyone remember Gingerale Afternoon ((The Astrology of a Saturday)))? Anyways...

Thank Bob T for the 11/23/73 recommendation! I've never heard this one, and I plan on making it my "cooking a beef stew for an awesome night at home" show! For anyone interested, here is a link for one of the versions on LMA (though I don't know if it's the best... apologies.)

https://archive.org/details/gd73-11-23.sbd.orf.194.sbeok.shnf

That 2nd set looks super tasty! He's Gone>Truckin'> TOO>Space(9:46! might just be a sick jam!)> Bobby McGee, Eyes! That run alone makes me salivate, and the rest of the setlist, on paper (or screen) looks just as great. Casey Jones 2nd set closer?

Also, I've been knocked out, once again, by the Arrowhead show from the Summer of 78 box set. What a great, high energy performance! IMO, and many of you all here, it's the best of the box. Worth the price, twice over.

My lovely wife is staring at me because I should have been out of the door 15 minutes ago... she wins again :)

Peace

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Submitted by bob t on Sat, 11/23/2019 - 13:36

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Thanks, it is the next show after the Denver shows. Wait until you listen to the Eyes of the World. It is stand alone because someone breaks a string. You can hear the China Doll that never happened!! It sounds like the end of the Eyes of the World from 8/6/74 Roosevelt Stadium without Bob yelling at the fence climbers.. November and December 1973 are just so mellow.. Bob t
PS the one song that they sort of forgot to play was Mississippi Half Step based on their location!!!

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 11/23/2019 - 14:35

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Nappyrags...I've only got the official releases concerning the Band Of Gypsies, so this is a no brainer for me. When I have bootlegs, or semi official Hendrix releases, I am always in two minds as to whether I want the newer version. Case in point being the Winterland October 1968 shows. I got a 6cd set of the complete run, in variable sound, on the Reclamation label, so have never got round to buying the official 3cd release. I have often wondered how much better the official version sounds compared to the one I've got.

Incidentally, one of the few advantages of record shops being replaced by online ordering is that at least we no longer have to suffer the humiliation of going into an actual shop, to ask an actual person if they have something with a title like "Songs For Groovy Children"!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 11/23/2019 - 16:43

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Not much happening here. Except Dap 21 playing.

Youtube 7 31 71

Talkers...why do people talk so much DURING concerts? Dark Star...the universe is being explained right in front of them, and these guys are blaaaaaabbing. Grr...

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 05:04

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I just wondered if there was any way of removing that rubbish from cvabitrass.. whatever. Not only is it rubbish...its long rubbish!

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 07:12

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Watch 11/24/78 Capital Theatre!!! Closed circuit tv broadcast..... the good old days.. First show that i got with an Ollin Arageed, back in 1985.. Good tapes were in circulation because of the radio broadcast.. man that was a giant spam post that came through!!!

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 07:42

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Todays palate-cleansing 30DOD entrée (https://www.dead.net/30daysofdead):
An almost 43 minute "He's Gone>Truckin'>The Other One".
Hint: A trio of classic Grateful Dead songs from 1972, 1970, and 1967, assembled into a perfect jam sequence

Anybody figure these out (Keithfan?) Don't spoil it for the rest of us, just a simple nod will do ;-)

(WOW! Just got a pass from Captcha – no whack-a-mole-ing of traffic lights!)

I wish I could deal with things as efficiently as that.

Oh..its still there. Not to worry . Thanks anyway-why not.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 08:07

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Went and ordered The Pretty Things - Final Bow. I know I got a fart in a wind storm chance of getting a signed copy, but it was limited regardless.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 10:20

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Revisited DP 1 12/19/73 yesterday, some good stuff on there. That was probably the first non-album Here Comes Sunshine that I ever heard, and just the whole live '73 sound was sort of a revelation. The shows I attended were mid-80's and the tapes I had were mostly early '80s shows of varying completeness and sound quality, so DP 1 was really something different for me when it first came out. Listening to it now made me wonder what the rest of the show was like, and wondering if DaP 32 would have been released as a partial show like some of the other early DPs if it had been released at that time. Personally I'd rather get complete shows, even if they are a little uneven, rather than a version of a show edited to leave the perceived highlights. Sometimes the lowlights have something cool to add to the show, and sometimes not everyone agrees on which parts are the highlight. Just my rambling thoughts on a Sunday morning.

I hope you like it, Dennis. I have to be honest, I like it more with each passing day. The dvd is fantastic...the live cds have gaps between the songs like on Dead down loads, gawd knows why. If you got a limited edition, maybe you will get a signed copy. Its a bit late to say now, but I got mine from Burning Shed-a bit cheaper last week than Amazon.
I have seen The Pretty Things in various small venues over the last 10 years or so, and the singer and guitarist Phil May and Dick Taylor always hang around afterwards signing whatever you like and having a laugh and a chat. Really nice people.

That's it for me with box sets for this year. Although I do keep casting my beady eye in the direction of this 6cd Complete Mighty Baby set that has just come out.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 11:30

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Bob, I got through most of the show last night working on dinner (more slowly than I needed to...) and then the rest of the show (Bobby McGee thru the end) this morning. Agreed, that is a great Eyes! Also agreed, Fall/Winter 73 is such a mellow, wonderfully jazzy, exploratory period for the band - it's my personal favorite kind of 73 (sorry Spring!) I recently went through the Winterland box, and I've been rocking the Denver Road Trips in the car since Thursday (that disc 2 is something else!), so your suggestion was quite timely and appreciated :)

On another note, I was just up in the shower, thinking about Fall/Winter of 73, and then I start thinking about releases from this period... other than the Winterland Box and the Denver Road Trips, the only other one I could come up with was Dick's volume 1 (I'm sure I'm missing some, but...) Anyway, I log on here again, and there is a post by Charlie3 about Dick's 1 and the compilation style format of the early releases! I love the serendipity of this site! Or, it might be that we are actually just some sort of hive-mind.

So, here's the question I was thinking about: If any one of the Dick's that was chopped up to the highlights were to be re-released as the whole show, maybe something like The Complete Dicks series (couldn't help myself :), which would it be? I think volume 1 is a strong contender, or perhaps volume 12, that 74 monster....

Hope everyone is enjoying their Sunday. No Ravens today, so I'm not sure what to do with my time...

Peace

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Submitted by nitecat on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 13:30

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GD Hartford CT 3/18/90
GD DaP8 Atlanta GA 11/30/80
GD Paris 5/4/72
GD Aoxomooxoa bonus disc
GD DaP32 Philly 3/24/73

Also...
GD DP2 10/31/71
GD Ready or Not
GarciaLive 11 Providence RI 11/11/93

and...
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac Live at the BBC

OK OK that's not five, life is good.

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 13:37

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Glad you liked it!! Late 1973 releases are interesting!! After the Nov Winterland shows, a lot has been released but some have been fragmented.
11/14/73 San Diego Released in 30 Trips complete
11/17/73 Los Angles complete Dave Picks
11/20/21/73 Denver Road Trips incomplete
11/30/12/02/73 Boston Dick's Picks 14 incomplete
12/4/73 Cincinnati Bonus Disk Winterland Box incomplete
12/6/73 Cleveland Bonus Disk Road Trips incomplete
12/10/73 Charlotte Download Series complete
12/19/93 Tampa incomplete

Hope that helps. Bob t

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 14:41

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1.-The who- meaty beaty big and bouncy 2.-Pink floyd- atom heart mother 3.-The Beatles-Rubber soul 4.-The rolling stones-sticky fingers 5. The association. Bonus- Sam kinison-has anyone seen me lately? Aaaahhh AAhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 16:32

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Please Dave
Please

With 2 17 73's HCS > CCS > IKYR as filler on disc 4

Yeah baby

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 16:44

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Thanks, brother! How could I have forgotten about Dave's 5?!?! One of my all time faves!

Peace

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Submitted by LedDed on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 17:15

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Rodgers, being battle-tested and a proven Super Bowl Champion should prevail over that west coast poser, Jimmy G.

But we'll see.

In the meantime, we've been rocking in the rockies:

Iron Maiden / Somewhere Back In Time: The Best Of 1980 -1989

Jack Bruce / A Question Of Time

Mark Lanegan / Bubblegum

AC/DC / Powerage

ZZ Top / Eliminator

\m/

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 18:12

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AC/DC - Back In Black
Deep Purple - Who Do We Think We Are?
Deep Purple - Deep Purple
GOGD - Dick's 29. 5.21.77
GOGD - Ready Or Not
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I wish the Patriots would just go away. Sorry Carlo.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 18:23

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I support white rhino research by donating money I would otherwise spend on cigars. The white rhinos are also extinct except for 2 non-fertile females, but the scientists have viable female eggs that have been fertilized by another type of rhinos in hope of bringing back the white rhinos. Please help these poor rhinos. They are really great animals. Peace

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 18:44

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We get that a lot. No problem V.

You are a kind soul and a great presence here.

..but try and cut VGuy some slack. You have to understand.. before Mrs. VGuy, there was Gisele.. and Tom Brady ripped her away from Vegas and our beloved Senator for peace and legal weed. I bet once those restraining orders expire (Tom can be so harsh) or she comes to her senses and files for divorce.. everything will get back to normal.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 20:53

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I did not know vguy was still pining for her. -Vguy remember the breakup rule. It takes half the time of the original relationship to get over it. Ha.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/25/2019 - 06:23

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11/25/73 Tempe AZ turns 46 today. A nice little show..

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 11/25/2019 - 07:27

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So close...but...

Tom Brady and the Patriots are truly charmed. 90% of people on earth live real lives. 99% of sports teams live the reality of a kick in the balls from time to time. Not Tom and his buds.

Charmed. The only word to describe it.

Except that time they had their perfect season crunched. THAT was cool (for a non-Patriots fan).

But really. Charmed. Unbelievably charmed.

move away from sports, self. move away...

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 11/25/2019 - 08:45

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Don't forget Dick's 14 from 11/30 and 12/2. Not full shows but really good shows and the sound quality for this release from 20 years ago is awesome. Kind of surprised me when I went back to have a listen to this one last week.
Also spent some time with the Dave's 25 yesterday from November 77, man I love this show, so great and the banter back and fourth is classic. I still think this one is better than the Colgate show, energy just seems different. Can't wait for DeKalb!
I still don't have Dick's 34, the Rochester show from the same tour.
I would be interested to know how this one stacks up against The Colgate and Binghamton shows. I think the PA reel on DP 34 gave me second thoughts.
Peace!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/25/2019 - 10:18

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That Playing in the Band>Jam>Mind Left Body from 12/2 is one for the ages.

The only release that both starts and ends with a Morning Dew.., one big MDew sandwich I suppose. I liked the second one better. Funny.. my memory is that this sounded a little muddy and they got crisper as Jeffrey Norman added to his bag of tricks, but my memory is a funny thing. I don't lean on it very often for good reason.

Hey.. DVikes, check your pm.

Also, this just in.. free livestream for JRad tonight. I you haven't checked them out before, try and fit it in. They have a hard-driving, high-energy approach to Grateful Dead music. They can catch fire when planets align just right.

https://jambands.com/news/2019/11/14/free-livestream-the-relix-channel-…

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 11/25/2019 - 11:54

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Made it to Eyes of the World so far..... Always like Bob at the end of the show telling everyone to dig the sunset.... Thanks for the reminder... bob t

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