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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • #1691
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    Less is more?

    Deadvikes - how about if they had played more and sang less? I never saw them in 73, I should say, I am just going off the live cds and tapes I have heard.

    Curiously, 1969 shows work in the opposite way. They started off by refining the music played during 1968, and in the process created some of the most sublime music ever to come out of an amplifier. From June onwards, though, they start moving away from the jams towards more song based sets.

    Typically, the Dave's Picks released from 1969, like the ones from 1973, have been from the weaker half of the year. In fact there have been literally no releases on Dave's Picks from this first golden age of Dead shows, which for me ran from about Fall 1967 until approximately May 1969. Maybe Dave prefers the songs to the jams.

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    Several of you had interesting, diverse comments on....I can also understand Daverocks POV and I even feel that a bit for 72 also. But I don’t need to always hear whole shows, and the meat & potatoes stuff in the second sets for me is so strong that I don’t get hung up on the 1st sets. Huge Dark Stars, great HCS, those awesome Eyes with the cool jazz jams etc. Anyone who knows me, knows the weirder the better for me, and the Jazzy Dead is tops.
    Spring 73 I pretty much knew nothing about until 4/2 came out. At first I was disappointed only because it was something at the time that wasn’t on my short list. But like any release now I got past that closed minded horse shit once I “listened to the music play”.....then I scored the Scooby Doo house which so far, if pressed, I’d prolly call my favorite Dave’s, but I still haven’t heard them all yet,....I guess what I’m trying to say is the more I am familiar with spring 73, the more I dig it, so I’m really stoked for 32....Summer 73 I’m still pretty ignorant about. I have PNW, but haven’t really had a chance to get down and dirty with yet, and I’ve heard 6/10/73 off the archive, in the background while working one day, and though I liked it, it didn’t blow me away like the fall/winter 73 shows do. That tour has always been perhaps my favorite, if I really, really was forced to pick only one. So yeah, count me as one who’d love more from late 73...but I’m good with pretty much any 73 that kicks ass, hell I’ll take any show that has the golden yummies!

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    Both! Lol I’ve always liked M. Griffin, and I’ve seen Sonething Wild, I recall it wasnt awesome, but pretty good, but I was referring to the Actress Pamela Gibley, who also stared in twin peaks. But since you’ve made me think about it, I guess the whole idea of the domestic robot, or like the main protagonist, specifically, the cherry 2000 model of domestic robot! Which is the premise for why he goes to such lengths to fix/replace her. Here’s the trailer....
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vBOiZ-ukS7Q

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    Too many songs? I don't know. I never went to a show and thought man, I wish they played less. We always wanted more and in 73 they gave you way more. And I agree Jim, the Boston Garden show is one of the best. Let's hope The Spectrum tops it.

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    Where are you David duryea?

    I was checking out 7/78 box comments and David was as interesting as he is annoying. We need you back on the next box set.

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    .... haven't seen that gem in quite a while. Last time I saw it, my then six year old son walked into the middle of it and asked, "why is she wearing all that black stuff? Looks uncomfortable."
    PNW '73. They sound just fine to me. Thankful I'm not cursed with the audiophile ear. Otherwise, I'd never be satisfied with 45 year old recordings.

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    Never saw it.

    Oro - Not sure if it was the robot or the girl that appealed to you. If it was the latter, check out Something Wild. Cool Melanie Griffith movie.

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    I get what you are saying Daverock.. the first sets in '73 are ginormous and seem to be used as testing grounds for their newer material. But I still dig it. 4/2 has risen to one of my favorites.

    If you look at most years, or more specifically the years when they were creating new songs and rehearsing. They seemed to take some time off usually big periods between January and April.. They seemed to use it to rehearse and work out the arrangements of new songs, and often to begin cutting studio tracks or at least finalize the arrangements and get the new songs ready for the road. Not a perfect rule, but I believe it's mostly true. So the spring of '73 got all the new material they were keeping from Warner Brothers. So there is a ton of new material and some of it (e.g. Wave That Flag) was not as fully developed as one would like.

    Still, it's a creative peak of sorts and I enjoy it because underneath it all, it's still really good but more importantly it lets us take a look under the hood at their creative process as it was evolving.

    Just my opinion, I could be wrong. I do like '73 though. There's some great stuff there.

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    It wasn't that long ago we were complaining about the 8 month gap in releases between February and October 1973 (DP 28 => DP 19). Now the gaps been filled and we're complaining there's not enough from original overstacked period. First world problems lol.

    I jest Dave Rock. It has been a while since we've seen something from the autumn and winter, but we did complain about that gap for a long time.

    I think the quality of the shows from the Spring Dicks and Daves Picks are really really good. There's a couple of really good Dark Stars and Playing in the Bands. Several of those great Loose Lucies, where the Autumn and Winter only have one. I would argue that the Eyes of the Worlds are better on those Spring releases than the two we got on the Winterland box set. The big missing thing in the spring releases is the full Weather Report Suite. But hey it wasn't ready what can you do.

    Those PNW 1973 shows don't sound too good to me. I don't know if it was the person recording the shows or what but they just don't sound as good and I find them hard to listen to so I agree with you there. The first one is decent and has that great Bird Song.

    But have you listened to The White Album lately? Tell me that doesn't just get better every year.

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    Deadheadbrewer - I also get much more from the Fall 1973 shows than the ones from the first half of the year - in which I would include the epic summer shows.
    I have just had a look at the 1973 Daves Picks so far released, and it seems we have already had two from Spring of the year, with one to follow shortly. And both those shows already released are bogged down with short songs.
    We also had three shows in last years box from summer 73. Seems odd that this great era for Dead shows, Fall 73, has been overlooked for so long.

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Ok purchased the last ten days or so...

Fleetwood Mac_Before the Beginning...live '68 & '70 shows spread over three discs
The Kinks_Arthur Box Set
Jimi_The Complete Band Of Gypsy's at The Fillmore East
Rolling Stones_Bridges to Buenos Aires
Various Artists_100 Blues Classics
Wes Montgomery_The Riverside years

plus a couple of new (to me) Charlie Miller boards from '74...can you tell it was just my birthday? and I have a few things still on the way....life is good....

You can make listening your new career once you have retired. Definite advantage to clocking on a bit.

I didn't know that the Complete Band of Gypsies had been released...maybe an appropriate one for Christmas.

Best non Dead listen for me has been The Final Bow box by The Pretty Things. A two cd, two dvd ( same music on cd as dvd) and 10" vinyl - signed copy if you are in the first 500. This was purportedly their final gig last December, and your humble correspondent was right in there. A tremendous gig and recording from one of Britain's best and most underrated r n b and psych bands of the 60s. Van Morrison and Dave Gilmour join the band-Dave Gilmour playing on no less than 6 tracks-including a roof raising 13+ minute version of Pretties classics LSD/Old Man Going. No home should be without one.

The actual name for the Hendrix box is "Songs For Groovy Children_The Fillmore East Concerts" Where they got that title I have no idea unless it's something Jimi says during one of the shows...I've had these shows on ok sounding board boots forever but it's nice to hear them this clean...

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Submitted by bob t on Sat, 11/23/2019 - 11:16

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From 1973, check out 11/23/73 El Paso Coliseum. Only time they ever played in El Paso. The show wasn't circulated back in tape trading days, Dead Base VI only has that they played Weather Report Suite.... 3 versions on internet archive. Good quality... Good cool fall day show to listen. Good weekend everyone... bob t

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sat, 11/23/2019 - 13:13

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I'm feeling pretty grooovy this Saturday afternoon, and I hope you all are as well! (Anyone remember Gingerale Afternoon ((The Astrology of a Saturday)))? Anyways...

Thank Bob T for the 11/23/73 recommendation! I've never heard this one, and I plan on making it my "cooking a beef stew for an awesome night at home" show! For anyone interested, here is a link for one of the versions on LMA (though I don't know if it's the best... apologies.)

https://archive.org/details/gd73-11-23.sbd.orf.194.sbeok.shnf

That 2nd set looks super tasty! He's Gone>Truckin'> TOO>Space(9:46! might just be a sick jam!)> Bobby McGee, Eyes! That run alone makes me salivate, and the rest of the setlist, on paper (or screen) looks just as great. Casey Jones 2nd set closer?

Also, I've been knocked out, once again, by the Arrowhead show from the Summer of 78 box set. What a great, high energy performance! IMO, and many of you all here, it's the best of the box. Worth the price, twice over.

My lovely wife is staring at me because I should have been out of the door 15 minutes ago... she wins again :)

Peace

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Submitted by bob t on Sat, 11/23/2019 - 13:36

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Thanks, it is the next show after the Denver shows. Wait until you listen to the Eyes of the World. It is stand alone because someone breaks a string. You can hear the China Doll that never happened!! It sounds like the end of the Eyes of the World from 8/6/74 Roosevelt Stadium without Bob yelling at the fence climbers.. November and December 1973 are just so mellow.. Bob t
PS the one song that they sort of forgot to play was Mississippi Half Step based on their location!!!

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 11/23/2019 - 14:35

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Nappyrags...I've only got the official releases concerning the Band Of Gypsies, so this is a no brainer for me. When I have bootlegs, or semi official Hendrix releases, I am always in two minds as to whether I want the newer version. Case in point being the Winterland October 1968 shows. I got a 6cd set of the complete run, in variable sound, on the Reclamation label, so have never got round to buying the official 3cd release. I have often wondered how much better the official version sounds compared to the one I've got.

Incidentally, one of the few advantages of record shops being replaced by online ordering is that at least we no longer have to suffer the humiliation of going into an actual shop, to ask an actual person if they have something with a title like "Songs For Groovy Children"!

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sat, 11/23/2019 - 16:43

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Not much happening here. Except Dap 21 playing.

Youtube 7 31 71

Talkers...why do people talk so much DURING concerts? Dark Star...the universe is being explained right in front of them, and these guys are blaaaaaabbing. Grr...

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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 05:04

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I just wondered if there was any way of removing that rubbish from cvabitrass.. whatever. Not only is it rubbish...its long rubbish!

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 07:12

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Watch 11/24/78 Capital Theatre!!! Closed circuit tv broadcast..... the good old days.. First show that i got with an Ollin Arageed, back in 1985.. Good tapes were in circulation because of the radio broadcast.. man that was a giant spam post that came through!!!

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Submitted by JeffSmith on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 07:42

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Todays palate-cleansing 30DOD entrée (https://www.dead.net/30daysofdead):
An almost 43 minute "He's Gone>Truckin'>The Other One".
Hint: A trio of classic Grateful Dead songs from 1972, 1970, and 1967, assembled into a perfect jam sequence

Anybody figure these out (Keithfan?) Don't spoil it for the rest of us, just a simple nod will do ;-)

(WOW! Just got a pass from Captcha – no whack-a-mole-ing of traffic lights!)

I wish I could deal with things as efficiently as that.

Oh..its still there. Not to worry . Thanks anyway-why not.

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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 08:07

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Went and ordered The Pretty Things - Final Bow. I know I got a fart in a wind storm chance of getting a signed copy, but it was limited regardless.

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Submitted by Charlie3 on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 10:20

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Revisited DP 1 12/19/73 yesterday, some good stuff on there. That was probably the first non-album Here Comes Sunshine that I ever heard, and just the whole live '73 sound was sort of a revelation. The shows I attended were mid-80's and the tapes I had were mostly early '80s shows of varying completeness and sound quality, so DP 1 was really something different for me when it first came out. Listening to it now made me wonder what the rest of the show was like, and wondering if DaP 32 would have been released as a partial show like some of the other early DPs if it had been released at that time. Personally I'd rather get complete shows, even if they are a little uneven, rather than a version of a show edited to leave the perceived highlights. Sometimes the lowlights have something cool to add to the show, and sometimes not everyone agrees on which parts are the highlight. Just my rambling thoughts on a Sunday morning.

I hope you like it, Dennis. I have to be honest, I like it more with each passing day. The dvd is fantastic...the live cds have gaps between the songs like on Dead down loads, gawd knows why. If you got a limited edition, maybe you will get a signed copy. Its a bit late to say now, but I got mine from Burning Shed-a bit cheaper last week than Amazon.
I have seen The Pretty Things in various small venues over the last 10 years or so, and the singer and guitarist Phil May and Dick Taylor always hang around afterwards signing whatever you like and having a laugh and a chat. Really nice people.

That's it for me with box sets for this year. Although I do keep casting my beady eye in the direction of this 6cd Complete Mighty Baby set that has just come out.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 11:30

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Bob, I got through most of the show last night working on dinner (more slowly than I needed to...) and then the rest of the show (Bobby McGee thru the end) this morning. Agreed, that is a great Eyes! Also agreed, Fall/Winter 73 is such a mellow, wonderfully jazzy, exploratory period for the band - it's my personal favorite kind of 73 (sorry Spring!) I recently went through the Winterland box, and I've been rocking the Denver Road Trips in the car since Thursday (that disc 2 is something else!), so your suggestion was quite timely and appreciated :)

On another note, I was just up in the shower, thinking about Fall/Winter of 73, and then I start thinking about releases from this period... other than the Winterland Box and the Denver Road Trips, the only other one I could come up with was Dick's volume 1 (I'm sure I'm missing some, but...) Anyway, I log on here again, and there is a post by Charlie3 about Dick's 1 and the compilation style format of the early releases! I love the serendipity of this site! Or, it might be that we are actually just some sort of hive-mind.

So, here's the question I was thinking about: If any one of the Dick's that was chopped up to the highlights were to be re-released as the whole show, maybe something like The Complete Dicks series (couldn't help myself :), which would it be? I think volume 1 is a strong contender, or perhaps volume 12, that 74 monster....

Hope everyone is enjoying their Sunday. No Ravens today, so I'm not sure what to do with my time...

Peace

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Submitted by nitecat on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 13:30

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GD Hartford CT 3/18/90
GD DaP8 Atlanta GA 11/30/80
GD Paris 5/4/72
GD Aoxomooxoa bonus disc
GD DaP32 Philly 3/24/73

Also...
GD DP2 10/31/71
GD Ready or Not
GarciaLive 11 Providence RI 11/11/93

and...
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac Live at the BBC

OK OK that's not five, life is good.

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 13:37

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Glad you liked it!! Late 1973 releases are interesting!! After the Nov Winterland shows, a lot has been released but some have been fragmented.
11/14/73 San Diego Released in 30 Trips complete
11/17/73 Los Angles complete Dave Picks
11/20/21/73 Denver Road Trips incomplete
11/30/12/02/73 Boston Dick's Picks 14 incomplete
12/4/73 Cincinnati Bonus Disk Winterland Box incomplete
12/6/73 Cleveland Bonus Disk Road Trips incomplete
12/10/73 Charlotte Download Series complete
12/19/93 Tampa incomplete

Hope that helps. Bob t

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 14:41

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1.-The who- meaty beaty big and bouncy 2.-Pink floyd- atom heart mother 3.-The Beatles-Rubber soul 4.-The rolling stones-sticky fingers 5. The association. Bonus- Sam kinison-has anyone seen me lately? Aaaahhh AAhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 16:32

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Please Dave
Please

With 2 17 73's HCS > CCS > IKYR as filler on disc 4

Yeah baby

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 16:44

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Thanks, brother! How could I have forgotten about Dave's 5?!?! One of my all time faves!

Peace

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Submitted by LedDed on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 17:15

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Rodgers, being battle-tested and a proven Super Bowl Champion should prevail over that west coast poser, Jimmy G.

But we'll see.

In the meantime, we've been rocking in the rockies:

Iron Maiden / Somewhere Back In Time: The Best Of 1980 -1989

Jack Bruce / A Question Of Time

Mark Lanegan / Bubblegum

AC/DC / Powerage

ZZ Top / Eliminator

\m/

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 18:12

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AC/DC - Back In Black
Deep Purple - Who Do We Think We Are?
Deep Purple - Deep Purple
GOGD - Dick's 29. 5.21.77
GOGD - Ready Or Not
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I wish the Patriots would just go away. Sorry Carlo.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 18:23

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I support white rhino research by donating money I would otherwise spend on cigars. The white rhinos are also extinct except for 2 non-fertile females, but the scientists have viable female eggs that have been fertilized by another type of rhinos in hope of bringing back the white rhinos. Please help these poor rhinos. They are really great animals. Peace

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 18:44

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We get that a lot. No problem V.

You are a kind soul and a great presence here.

..but try and cut VGuy some slack. You have to understand.. before Mrs. VGuy, there was Gisele.. and Tom Brady ripped her away from Vegas and our beloved Senator for peace and legal weed. I bet once those restraining orders expire (Tom can be so harsh) or she comes to her senses and files for divorce.. everything will get back to normal.

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Submitted by carlo13 on Sun, 11/24/2019 - 20:53

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I did not know vguy was still pining for her. -Vguy remember the breakup rule. It takes half the time of the original relationship to get over it. Ha.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/25/2019 - 06:23

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11/25/73 Tempe AZ turns 46 today. A nice little show..

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Submitted by stoltzfus on Mon, 11/25/2019 - 07:27

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So close...but...

Tom Brady and the Patriots are truly charmed. 90% of people on earth live real lives. 99% of sports teams live the reality of a kick in the balls from time to time. Not Tom and his buds.

Charmed. The only word to describe it.

Except that time they had their perfect season crunched. THAT was cool (for a non-Patriots fan).

But really. Charmed. Unbelievably charmed.

move away from sports, self. move away...

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 11/25/2019 - 08:45

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Don't forget Dick's 14 from 11/30 and 12/2. Not full shows but really good shows and the sound quality for this release from 20 years ago is awesome. Kind of surprised me when I went back to have a listen to this one last week.
Also spent some time with the Dave's 25 yesterday from November 77, man I love this show, so great and the banter back and fourth is classic. I still think this one is better than the Colgate show, energy just seems different. Can't wait for DeKalb!
I still don't have Dick's 34, the Rochester show from the same tour.
I would be interested to know how this one stacks up against The Colgate and Binghamton shows. I think the PA reel on DP 34 gave me second thoughts.
Peace!

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 11/25/2019 - 10:18

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That Playing in the Band>Jam>Mind Left Body from 12/2 is one for the ages.

The only release that both starts and ends with a Morning Dew.., one big MDew sandwich I suppose. I liked the second one better. Funny.. my memory is that this sounded a little muddy and they got crisper as Jeffrey Norman added to his bag of tricks, but my memory is a funny thing. I don't lean on it very often for good reason.

Hey.. DVikes, check your pm.

Also, this just in.. free livestream for JRad tonight. I you haven't checked them out before, try and fit it in. They have a hard-driving, high-energy approach to Grateful Dead music. They can catch fire when planets align just right.

https://jambands.com/news/2019/11/14/free-livestream-the-relix-channel-…

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Submitted by bob t on Mon, 11/25/2019 - 11:54

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Made it to Eyes of the World so far..... Always like Bob at the end of the show telling everyone to dig the sunset.... Thanks for the reminder... bob t

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