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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

    GET IT WHILE YOU CAN

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • wilfredtjones
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    say Jim

    Check yer pm's please! Thanks. :-)

  • JimInMD
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    Ha

    OT. The GD equivalent of OG.

  • Vguy72
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    Lucky number Seven....

    ....I don't play craps anymore. But when I did, it was 6 & 8 all day. Hardways are a sucker bet.
    ....edit. just as I posted this, daverock posts a comment of letting the dice fall. Amazing!!

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    Curious timings

    I was thinking Dark Star would be the defining track on this set...but looking at the timings, its only just over 4 minutes long! I notice the jam leading up to it clocks in at over 22 minutes though. I think of Dark Star as being a jam more than a song anyway, so maybe its not so clear when the so called jam ends and Star begins.

    Looking forward to getting it however the dice falls.

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    Don't have mine yet. Is Donna having an exceptionally bad night, or is she on par with her usual sound?

  • stoltzfus
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    Fine enough release

    Would reeeeeeeeally like 3/21/73 to join this March/April constellation.

    No complaints from me at all.

    Following up 3 24 73 with 7 7 78, an O.T. show. Original Tape from the early 80s.

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    Can't be sure what show arrived for Mr. Heartbreak, because we listened last night to the first set, Bertha thru Playing, and to our ears, this show (3-24-73, right?) is outstanding! The playing was so engaging and the sound quality so amazing, this is rated top shelf in my world. No work to listen, the band was in the zone and the well-articulated parts meshed perfectly. This show is in that top tier where there's no call for ranking anything. It's in the pool of those shows where it sounds effortless and that attracts the ear. As I said, no work on the listener's part to enjoy.

    If any of this show sounds "meh" to you, may the gods have mercy on your soul.

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    Had to counter the negativity.

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    Hilariously Deader-than-thou response. Did I really just read a post implying that I don't go into a release with an open mind and open ears? Did this smug person read my post with an open mind?
    The irony is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.
    Yeah, man, we must be listening to different releases. Hooooo... (eye roll).

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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I was a freshman in H.S. at this time. I remember my uncle buddy had a homemade stereo and amp. With the colored lights and switches and the black and white 'the who' poster with the arrow pointing up from the big H. I also remember he had a Harvey wallbanger poster in 1974 which was the new cocktail at the time. Orange juice and Galliano. The old days.

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Long time no see. Welcome back. Ha.

Been relistening to Daves and such

11 6 77 discs 1 n 3 are great
Disc two is meh

11 17 71 n bonus Really great

6 17 76 pleasant

9 2 83 hot (in the voice of Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite)

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Dap 34 will be from 68' or 69'. Hopefully.

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Interesting idea. With 1972 shows, I would probably bring Bob's guitar more up front. For years, I have found myself zeroing in on what he is doing on the guitar during 1972 shows. This is the only year I really do this, and I never set out intending to-its just where my ears end up. In 1972, both his sound and playing really attract me.

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Ok, here you go

https://www.alandia.de/

Look for something labeled, "strong." As in max thujone. This is not paint thinner and it will not kill you or make you go blind. Trust me. Ha! No but seriously, most of these are extremely high in alcohol content as well, but it's the thujone that makes this a thing. You want a bottle with 30ppm thujone which is the legal max, even internationally.

In the US, you can buy Lucid or whatever brand at your corner store but those are limited to 10ppm thujone and it doesn't work. Yes, absinthe comes from wormwood, still - there's no substitute - but this isn't coming from some moonshine hillbilly or prohibitionist mixing up bathtub gin. I spent time in Italy and Germany and bought this stuff regularly from any old mom and pop liquor store and it all treated me well.

I have an actual fountain... I've been an enthusiast for years... but all you need is a good bottle and some sugar cubes. The sites sell slotted spoons as well but a fork will do in a pinch if one doesn't mind being a bit uncouth.

There is also special glassware... but for the novice, start with a good bottle. Pour a single, measured shot into a glass over a sugar cube slowly. The sugar will begin to dissolve. Follow by dripping, or slowly pouring water (I use San Pellegrino, the carbonation helps mute the bitterness) over until the sugar is dissolved and the liquid begins to louche (turn cloudy). Then stir the sugar up into the solution and swill. Repeat.

It tastes like shit, unless you like black licorice. But a gentle psychedelic glow comes on by the end of the second glass. Drink the first one quickly and savor the second and you should be on your way.

Absinthe is great with other drugs - pick one - but don't start drinking it after already being drunk and watch what you drink after and during. Generally speaking, absinthe does not play well with other liquors, although red wine sipped in moderation doesn't clash too hard. Hemingway used to enjoy a little glass of "Death In The Afternoon," - absinthe and champagne - which every time I've tried has been disgusting beyond belief. But then most of us weren't Papa by any standard.

There is no shortage of information about this on the web and there are some beautiful coffee table books on the subject. The ritual here if done properly with a fountain, spoon, etc. really draws people in. Ladies like it, as well. It feels druggy and sensual all around. If you soak the sugar cube in absinthe briefly, you can set it aflame and smell and watch it carmelize and drip down into the glass... pretty cool.

I also use a couple of ice cubes along with my sparkling water to make it more palatable.

Bon voyage!

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....while I take notes.
I ordered one. Hoping for the best LedDed. Cheers.

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Looks good but the shipping (from Europe) is more than the Absinthe.

So I did some research using my Alchemy for Dummies book and saved myself some money in the process.

Some baking soda and diet coke + a little knowhow and you can freebase some wormwood leaves followed by a double Kamchatka vodka chaser. MacGyver would be proud.

I'm still curious.. Thanks Led. There's a wealth of knowledge on these boards and 92.3% of the time we are creative enough to trace it back to the Grateful Goddamn Dead.

Now.. what to play. It's been a while, so Thelma.

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It sounds very alluring, I must say. If it wasn't alcohol based, I wouldn't mind a tipple-although if it wasn't alcohol based it wouldn't be absinthe.

At the risk of spoiling the bonhomie, I would suggest exercising caution about mixing alcohol with other drugs. I nearly had a fit about 10 years ago doing that, and as a youngster I could easily have died. I am sure we are all educated and seasoned hedonists on here, and already know about risks etc...but, in case anyone doesn't... there's some free advice for you.

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Out of those who have gotten theirs, did you get an extra disc 3 in an envelope?

Also how do explain disc 1 & 2? Is 2 the rest of the second set?

Do you think the only set 1 stuff was the "bonus tracks" on disc 1?

Funny you should mention the need to get to a museum and look at some stuff...last week the Mrs and I flew into Denver to hit the Monet exhibit at the Denver Art Museum...over 120 paintings of his were borrowed from other museums and private collections to put this exhibit on...it ends in Feb and then goes to Germany before everything is sent back...pretty heady day...some years ago we also drove into LA to attend a Van Gough exhibit that was pretty extensive...the Amsterdam Van Gough Museum was closed for renovations and they sent a major portion of it on a world wide tour...I love to stand to the side of a painting and see the depth of the paint and the brush strokes...Another plus to Denver was going to the music shop "Twist and Shout" ....great great store...picked up about 20 CD's including a couple of Dick's Picks I didn't have, only $18 each plus the acoustic Warfield finally...right next door to it is a major book store, "The Tattered Cover"...awesome...if anyone goes take a lunch cuz I guarantee you'll be there all day...

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Hey DAVEROCK and KEITHFAN thought you might find this interesting

In his '70s heyday when he wasn't busy gluing hotel furniture to the ceiling, future Eagles guitarist Joe Walsh was providing six-string inspiration to his fellow guitar playing peers.

In a recent interview with the San Diego Reader, Walsh confirmed a famous legendary tale that he had helped Who guitarist Pete Townshend to cement the sound of his now-famous guitar tone.

“Yes. That happened. The James Gang opened for the Who when they performed 'Tommy' in Europe. Pete and I are in the same zip code in terms of writing music and playing guitar. He had taken me under his wing as kind of a mentor. But during 'Tommy,' he’d locked into a certain amp/guitar setup for touring, and he got stuck there. It was time for him to move on and I sensed that.”

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Walsh allows that many rock guitarists of the time were employing the Fender Stratocaster and the Gibson Les Paul as their primary instruments for creating musical destruction. He had a setup that in his mind provided an especially harmonic secret sauce to the guitar playing sound and he shared that with Townshend.

A bright orange '57 Gretsch Chet Akins model guitar paired with a '59 Fender Bandmaster amp, both gifts from Walsh, gave Townshend exactly the right sonic mojo that he needed to create the next Who album, 'Who's Next.'

The Gretsch was a big hollow-bodied guitar that brought a rich tone that produced feedback at high volume, something that became an essential component of Townshend's sound. In typical fashion, Townshend eventually smashed the guitar during a Who show (no musical instrument was safe from Pete's on-stage wrath, right?), but he reportedly had the instrument reassembled and still owns it today.

“There’s songs in that guitar,” says Walsh. “You sit down with it, and stuff just comes out of you.”

The year 2012 will bring new music from Walsh, who recently wrapped up 'Analog Man,' his first album of new solo material since 'Songs For A Dying Planet' in 1992.

Read More: Joe Walsh Remembers Helping Pete Townshend Find His Famous Guitar Tone | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/joe-walsh-pete-townshend-guitar-tone/?u…

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I just received 5 discs, no extra disc in an envelope. I believe disc 2 is set 2. Jerry bought his pedal steel in 1969 in Denver. He told the people to make sure it was in tune, because he would not be able to tune it.

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Thanks for the reminder about the bonus disc that came with Thelma - that is a seriously smoking disc! Best bonus disc of the series? Maybe. I've always held that spot for the 2012 disc from the Cap Center 7/29/74 (maybe because I'm a Maryland boy.) Perhaps today I will play them back to back to determine the true champion. I don't know which will win in the end, but I am sure that I will enjoy the hell out of the competition!

Peace

Oh, the Orpheum bonus disc is a winner too! This series has really brought an embarrassment of riches!

Also, spent some time down the Absinthe rabbit hole - thanks for the link Led! Nearly convinced myself that I should order the Strong68 set with the bottle, spoons, glasses, and sugar cubes until I saw the $45 shipping cost, bringing the purchase to $104. Wife did suggest it might make a great Christmas present for someone tho... :)

Kevin - thanks for that follow up on Pete Townsend. Interesting that although the Gretsch featured so much, and sounded so great on the studio recordings, he didn't play it live much - or one like it. The only photographs of him playing it live from the early 70s, that I can remember, are ones from that Eric Clapton gig, when Eric was coaxed out of retirement to play with a pickup band of various luminaries at The Rainbow.

Maybe its the fact that big bodied guitars like Gretsch's, have feedback that isn't so easy to control. Also, its one thing smashing a Gibson or a Fender....but you don't want to be smashing a Gretsch very often. Maybe it was just to cumbersome, and restricted his stage movements ! Although Brian Setzer used to nip about a bit.

Also interesting that Joe Walsh suggested that the guitar had songs within it. Even at my humble level, I have noticed that guitars have personalies which need accommodating. Yesterday I bought a second hand Epiphone casino - just a budget guitar - but quite nice. I have had a few strums on it, and I am waiting to see what sort of music it would like me to try and play on it. Its a bit like meeting someone new, getting a new guitar.

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I got the one that I ordered the other day, but as I am giving it as a Christmas gift to my dad, I have not unwrapped the actual set. However, looking at it from the side, it seems to be five cds in individual slip cases - 2 for the show at Bear's Lair, and single discs for the remaining three shows.

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That "Chapter 1" set is odd/lacking info. The sub title is "Set 2", on two disc. Do you believe "disc 2" is the beginning of the second set or end? Which would make 'disc 1' the opposite. Then this make the bonus track, set 1, the only thing left available from that show? I couldn't find a set list for this show. I'm just an anal idiot sometimes.

... My best guess is that the bonus material at the end of disc one (labeled as "from Set 1") may be all that survives of that set. If all of it was available, why wouldn't they have released both sets? So, if I had to guess, I would say that disc 1 and 2 represent all of Set 2.

The limited number of NRPS setlists I can find from 1969 show that they only played single set shows. Of course, the Bear's Lair shows could have been different, and labeling it as Set 2 suggests they did play two. Hmm... Looking at the ticket stub, it seems the show started at 10:30, which would make for a late night if they did play two standard sets.

Also, I am totally making a guess, especially as I haven't even had a chance to open up the package to look at any liner notes.

Peace

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Stupendous

2 27 77 filler
Ausgezeichnet

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That's gonna be sweeeeet

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Again, anyone out there get the download link for the latest 7" 45?

Also,,,, that 31 days of December is really growing this year! Up to 44 tracks!

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As much as I have loved The Grateful Dead since 1974, I feel fortunate to count so many hundreds of other bands/artists as ones that I ALSO love. So while I patiently (sort of) wait for the first Dave's of 2020, my forthcoming Zappa "Hot Rats" box will keep me well occupied until then. Actually that, and the other 6.000 cds that my wife says I "don't need". Always fun to pull out a E '72 show, May '77, Boxzilla, or any random Dick's, Dave's, or Road Trips. Plus, any other random Dead cd's or ANY of the others that I "don't need".
Some people just do not understand this music "addiction". I always say that music turned my black & white world into technicolor.
I hope everyone stays safe, healthy, and Happy into the New Year!!

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Still waiting for my Dave's 32. Have done the pre-order the day it's released every year since it's been offered. Have had no luck with any inquiries through the website. I understand that they are having logistical issues with a warehouse move, but this is getting to be ridiculous.

I'd love to know in what order they ship out the sets. They clearly don't ship them out in the order that they were received.

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I showed up in here a few weeks ago asking about my order, too...

I’ve been subscribing since day one and do not have my order either. From what I’ve gathered there is a problem of some sort. I read something about a some disks not playing and some saying it’s still a warehouse move issue. I was told by members to try contacting Marye on here for assistance with the order; the PM went unanswered.
So here’s where it gets iffy IMO... I emailed customer service and asked about my order and when it would ship. 4 or 5 days later I got a response that said, in part “I have added you to my Dave's Picks Vol. 32 replacement list.” And “In the meantime, we will refund you for this volume, for the delay and inconvenience.”
So, since they refunded me for this one release of my subscription, I am not confident I will ever see a copy...so I bought one off eBay for as cheap as I could find; $40 + shipping :^/

Good luck!

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I received my copy of this beautiful mini-box today and like many others it came with an extra disc 3 in a paper sleeve.
But it also came with a note of explanation. Apparently the manufacturer has determined that disc 3 from the first printing may have an irregularity of the central spindle hole which can cause some older cd players to have difficulty reading the cd. To get out ahead of it they have included a replacement copy right out of the gate because they don't want you to not be able to enjoy it right now.

Hmmmm….seems like some folks we all know AND LOVE could take this example and run with it.
Now that is customer service.
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Nice collection Mr. Ones. Good grief, I thought I had a fairly robust collection of CDs, but 6000! Where do you keep them all?
While we wait for the next release in February 2020, here are some older releases that are still affordable and still worth getting.

Terrapin Limited- released in 1997 from yes, the famed Spring 1990 Tour. 3/15/90. This is the same John Cutler multi track recordings used for the box sets and it kicks ass. The sound quality is great. The whole show rocks. Really love the Terrapin Station.

Nightfall of Diamonds. 10/16/89.
Another Cutler multi track recording released in 2001 and the sound quality is really good. Tons of highlights and there is a Dark Star and a reprise!

Go get these, you won't be disappointed.
Go get these

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I was trying to remember who posted they reached out to MaryE with a PM and did not get a reply. Just to confirm you are not crazy.. you send this about the time they made an update to the website here, and there is a resulting bug with new PM's. They are not being sent.

I am pretty confident she did not get your PM, which means you are not losing your mind..

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... I recently found some boxes in storage . I sold Two complete boxes,in like new condition to two grateful members here on the board this past week. Everyone is very happy on both sides . Parcel received and arrived in said condition and I was able to buy a month of my meds supply. My one med prescription is a $1000 a month, this country medical system isa horror show. I pray for everyone to have a healthy loving holiday & New Years, god bless you all.
I have 1977 Winterland boxset with all 3 complete shows, the Bonus cd and the box still left if anyone is interested. All CDs mint and packaging like new . Looking around $400 dollars for complete parcel. Any thoughts or questions, please feel free to write me. Peace be with you all during this year’s holiday season , Grateful New Years 🙏❤️😎💀🌹💀🌹

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Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination ('76 mix)
Neil Young - After the Gold Rush
Grateful Dead - 5/9/77 from GSTL Box
Willie Nelson - Phases and Stages from Complete Atlantic Sessions Box
The Beatles - Hard Days Night
Currently spinning the Curtis Mayfield classic album Superfly. The tune Pusherman just flows...

Mr. Ones, your post is pretty spot on. And that is a lot of CDs. I may casually mention your post to my wife and let her know I really need to pick up the pace of CD acquisitions just to see her reaction. She has mentioned on a number of occasions that I have more than enough CDs and I have a fraction of that quantity and have recently run out of shelf space again.

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Most companies no longer use quality control. That means one less employee to pay. Most companies pump out so much product these days that a few hundred or thousands of defective products is a drop in the bucket and half the people don't send it back which happens most of the time. I mean really. How many times have you seen the qc stamp or strip of paper saying 'inspected'?

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On Monday the 16th of December, Dave's Picks Vol 32 (#11255) finally landed in my post box. I'm grateful ... :-)

Micke Östlund
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Good news!

On another note

Curtis Mayfield Freddy's Dead and Pusherman

Good trax

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Hey, Folks:

Daily reader, infrequent poster. Thanks for being a welcoming bunch.

I ended up with a second copy of Pacific Northwest 73-74. Bought one, received one as a surprise gift. The copy I bought sits here still; I never opened the shipping box.

As it happens, I'm looking to track down a copy of the original May 1977 box from 2013. If anyone is up for a trade, please PM me. I'm not sure if folks in these parts thing that's a fair swap. After all, people seem to love May '77, and I believe new copies of PNW are still available. But PNW is 19 discs/6 shows, and May '77 is 14/5. Maybe you ended up with two copies of May 77? Maybe it's a crazy idea! But it never hurts to ask, right?

PM me if something's possible. Much obliged, good folks.

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....makes me happy as well. Enjoy!
I saw ice cream as I was eating moose tracks ice cream.
I don't believe in coincidences....
6K CDs. Impressive. My friend Marco from high school (the only person I keep in contact from those days) has a collection that I think rivals yours. I'm talking walls of discs. Mostly heavy metal, but still worthy. 👍
PM's still are kaput.

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A man after my own heart. I haven't a clue how many cds I have...but its a lot.
I store them all over the place...old shoe boxes, wardrobes, chests of drawers, the attic... as well as the more obvious places like shelves. I find its quite a good idea to chuck out irrelevancies, like clothes, to make way for what really matters...more music.

Last Dead show....11/1/90. I was there, but it sounds better now than I remember it. It seemed like the weakest of the three 1990 nights in London at the time...but it sounded pretty good this morning. I believe part of the space/drums section was used for Infrared Roses.
Top non Dead music...a compilation of early Chet Atkins sides. Man, that guy could play!

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Chuck out irrelevancies, like clothes, …. Ha

I like your spirit..

Even if it evokes a Gollum-like visual that after a certain age and critical mass of CDs (say 10k) that we all succumb to turning our homes into a Lord of the Rings style man caves and prance around admiring our towered and shelved stacks of CDs and Box Sets wearing nothing but a stained, hole ridden tan smock or tunic with our mint copy of 2/28/69 Fillmore West vinyl LP clutched in our hands repeating over and over, my precious.. my precious...

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JRF - Xtra disc 3 - I wondered if there was a problem with 3 and that was why the extra,,,, I got no note. My original disc 3 ripped in okay,,, haven't listen yet.

Master One - 6,000 cd's,,, wow. Don't know how many I have, I get, I rip, I store. (I think it says that in latin on a pack of Marlboro) I have about 16 banker boxes of disc. Can you ever have too many? My many ex wives thought so! That's why when we split I kept their disc also! Currently out of work, so I consoled myself this morning by buying something I really, really, REALLY NEEDED,,,, Esquivel & His Orchestra's Complete 1954-62 recordings. (for when you get tired of Martin Denny and Les Baxter and need something COMPLETELY different :-) )

Charlie the 3rd - Curtis and Superfly,,, have the original gatefold album from back in the day. Think I got it the day Freddy died!?! Did you ever hear the Ice-T sample of Pusherman? He uses music (album, tapes) as a substitute for drugs. (Can you hook me up with a 5 O, no but I can hook you up with a LP)

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A Mighty thank you to Mighty DAVEROCK For the Mighty recommendation of the Mighty Baby 6-disc set. Good stuff!! If my wife finds out, I may have to stay at yours for a while (I can always sell cd's I "don't need" for air fare).
And like you my cds are stored in: My shed, 3 closets, music room, shelves, bookcase, stray boxes and loosely strewn about. The only 2 rooms that do not have cds (at present) are the WC's!!

Last 5:
Mighty Baby-A Jug Of Love
Mighty Baby-Mighty Baby
Phish 6/30/19
Phish 6/29/19
Phish 6/28/19

Of course, since I was ordering Mighty Baby on Dec. 3rd (arrived yesterday!!) I also ordered Santana/McLaughlin A Love Supreme 2-cd Live set. Any body know of a music museum where I could store these for a while??

Who needs Santa Claus??

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Mr. Ones/Charlie3/daverock.. all you guys need is for your significant others to get to know each other. Nothing good will become of that and in the end some divorce attorney will own 1/3 of your box sets.

I am humbled.. I can hold my own here when it comes to GD releases, but so many here have a width and depth I can't fully comprehend.

It leads to some great palate cleansers from time to time.. thanks to all for that.

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