Dave’s Picks Volume 33: Evans Field House, N. Illinois University, Dekalb, IL 10/29/77

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January 22, 2020 - 9:18am

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Just like the singular Cornell, just like the one later called Sunshine Daydream, just like hallowed Hampton, DeKalb stands legend on its own as one of the most sensational performances the Grateful Dead ever did do. Early tape-trading circles earmarked the show as upper-echelon and when you have a listen, we're sure you'll be inclined to agree. The original reel-to-reel recordings have been shined and polished to perfection, showcasing mighty fine fret work, sparkling keys, and unparalleled harmonies. In fact, we can hardly pick favorites - from start to finish, there's just too much good stuff!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 33: EVANS FIELD HOUSE, N. ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY, DEKALB, IL 10/29/77 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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February 4, 2020 - 4:41pm

#361

JimInMD

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Good Luck darobace

We all deserve to get the music we paid for.
February 4, 2020 - 4:13pm

#362

darobace

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#33 Received copy in BKLYN

Got #20313 in Brooklyn
Yeah !!!!!!
Still haven’t received #32 yet
Called customer service with the usual “we don’t have a CLUE when you will get it
So since Dead.net or whomever has anything to do with this....doesn’t really care I decided that enuff is enuff and filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and hopefully will resolve my missing #32
Which by the way didn’t get to me because it was lacking my apartment number on the label . Mind you #31 was delayed for the same reason. I’m a patient person but honestly this has gotten ridiculous so hopefully the BBB will help me out .....
February 4, 2020 - 3:17pm

#363

bob t

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8/30/81 Compton Terrace

I caught the opening Mississippi Half Step>Franklin's Tower today on Sirius today.... Very impressed, I don't know anything about this show, never had it in tape days. Sound quality was good as well as the playing... Gonna look it up later tonight on Archive and listen to the rest.. and by no means am I a big 81 fan, love when you get caught off guard by a show!!! bob t
February 4, 2020 - 3:04pm

#364

SPACEBROTHER

Joined:
June 4, 2007

DP 33

First time through from front to back. I like how this show feels good to listen to. The Sugar Mag at the end just smokes. Kudos to Billy and Mickey on that one.

Also received a copy of GarciaLive 12. Love the loosened and solid groove by the quartet. The vocals of Sarah Fulcher is at times inspired and other times too much. An interesting peak into the Jerry & Meri Boarding House program.

Overall I think Dave picked a great one and the sound is superb. My one criticism is that with all of the Oct 77 material cut up and used as over multiple releases and filler why none was included on disc 2? Besides that this is another great puck. Thanks Dave, Mark and everybody else who puts these out. 34 will be an epic release with bonus disc. I can only imagine what else is in store.
February 4, 2020 - 1:00pm

#365

rukind2

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Grateful Dead Evens field house

Might as well we said when ordering this special one. Pick up two . One for our Best man Jim that night. He worked on the concert committee that year while going to school there. We all missed that show. Jeff and I were Married Oct 29 1977. and still are. The dead came to Chicago a lot thanks god. It was a tough one to miss. My parents gave us a Big wedding so we just had to show. We have heard this show many times over the years . The CD is great quality. Listening on our Old Pioneer speakers from 77. as usual they rock!
. #3133 and Jims is# 8310. Peace all. Enjoy the show and the ride. There is nothing like a Grateful Dead Show!
February 4, 2020 - 12:41pm

#366

Mr. Ones

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Dave's 33

I finally got a chance to listen to set 2 last night. While It's quite excellent in most every way, there just is no big "Snap, Crackle, or Pop" that really floats the proverbial boat. Overall, a truly enjoyable show, and I see why some folks like the first set better. My second set highlights would be FOTD, and Space>>Black Peter. There's literally nothing bad about the show, I think I'm just getting a little jaded. Also, my favorite years are '68-'72, so that might have something to do with it. In any case, that's my tuppence.
Have a peaceful day all.
February 4, 2020 - 12:01pm

#367

carlo13

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Dap#9410

Wahooo!
February 4, 2020 - 11:57am

#368

Oroborous

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33

Obtained a copy of 10/29/77 during the mid-late 90s. At the time, we were not listening to so much Dead, but we’re so enamored with the new official releases, (especially the quality and sound) that were trickling out, that I decided (for various reasons) that I should go through the tapes, condense, keeping handy the best couple dozen, while storing the rest. So I went through every tape, color coding by sound, and storing according to classification.
Big job, but fortunately I had a lot of time, the bills were mostly taken care of, and it was a good chance for some closure after the Fat Man stopped rocking.
So I wasn’t really looking for more tapes...but a source my cousin knew had some good shit so I checked some out. Dekalb 77 was one of those. And though I didn’t keep the whole show, I loaded a good portion onto a 100, 110 minute tape as I was into that at the time to help downsize. Point being, it must of been really good to keep it then...
Now, almost 25 years later, and surprisingly only after a ton of other 77 stuff, here it is in all its Normanized glory!
MIGHT AS WELL; still jumps right outta the gate even after all these years. Not perfect, but in a good way. After Jer has a little vocal hiccup, it’s like they step it up to compensate. The jam, both Bob and Jer take nice leads but then Jerry drops out and it kinda fizzles back into the last verse.
But the big finish is perhaps why this version is known so well.
After, Bob says they need to get their space together, and he kinda sounds like it, lol.
JACK STRAW: perhaps not nuclear, but nothing here is, in a good way. Much of this show I kept thinking “their relaxed, in no hurry, the peaks build like huge swells on the ocean, Their tight, confident, just letting the music play. This is consistent through the first 4 or 5 songs, with perhaps the vocals, or more accurately the harmonies and the mix being the slight exception. The sound is good from the start, but as is normal, as they progress through the first set, entrain, and really start to gel, they and the vocal mix gets even better. In LLR the piano starts to show up in the mix nicely, and buy LOSER things are really fine. Another little vocal flub about 3:30 in, but no biggie and their use of dynamics during this show is blowing me away. JG is totally taking his time trying to get just the right gnarly tone during this one, versus a bunch of notes! It’s so nice to be able to really sit down and listen like this.
So after another big finish, Im thinking “space has been gathered” but Bob says otherwise, and again I wonder if he’s serious or just messing with the kids, who sound like their really digging it.
The next few are more of the same, with Keith stepping out more as evident with some tasty fills in RAMBLE ON ROSE, and by the time they finish ROSES, Phil is exalting that it’s the “happiest day” of his life. Curious what that’s all about, perhaps Keithfan or one of you headphone guys can pick up what their joking about?
LIG: relaxed, smooth, tight, awesome, totally on dynamics, it’s no wonder many rate this version so high.
Now I’m not all that up on 77, but to me, this ones something different, comparatively, to others. Like the Swing, it almost feels like a 76 show, except their more confident?
Comparing the 2 Estimated’s really illustrates this. The new songs are tighter now. It’s like when your riding pow, pow, and your in good shape, your core is solid, man you have it together so you can just sorta effortlessly float on top, like riding a big fluffy wave....that’s how this show sounds to me!
BERTHA: mix really starts to fill out, Keith especially, and about 5 minutes in they really start to bring it. Still unstrained, but louder, perhaps a little looser, but powerful. Maybe the pre-Set rituals are kicking things up? GOOD LOVIN’: at first transitions nicely, but then?, perhaps their still gathering their space after break time, lol, but that doesn’t last long and by about 4 minutes in their really on things, with Keith full on now, and the drummers/Mickey? Perhaps even getting a tad too strong?
Perhaps that’s why Jerry brings it down a bit with FOTD. But not much, as again, the use of dynamics is awesome, wooooooo! The crowds loving it too....
ESTIMATED: a smooth version with the peaks again like ocean swells versus high octane pedal to the meddle style, nice! After 3 listens I actually kinda like Keith’s weird synth sound, whereas on first listen it was kinda jarring and annoying.
So then, a no frills, tight, transition into EYES, with a nice little improv going in, and JG sets the feel about 1:10 in, which though post-hiatus, has such a nice relaxed mellow feel, but in a totally good way. Drums and Bass are perhaps a bit loud during the vocals, but this train is way outta the station by now. The choruses are a bit clunky, musically, like their still making the “new” band transition on this one, but the jam makes up for any of that, with a nice drop into my favorite part of this show, the space jam! At first I thought Phil was riffing on Dazed and Confused, but no, just some sweet, sweeet, weirdness! JG getting that giant bull frog tone with the mutron I love, but just briefly, then shhhhhh.........wow, that is some good shit! Does anyone know of any other 77 like this because I could dig more of this? So then they slide into STEPHEN sorta slow and slinky, compared to say an urgent, crackling 69 version, but again, in a good way.
The Harmonies perhaps a little rougher, but they, and the song in general build up nicely and then falls into a nice Bo Diddly drums and Bass into of course NFA.
“Not to tall, not too expensive”, er, a, not too long or loud, but like cruising on a wave like this whole awesome show! Nice Jam!, out of which you half expect a return to Stephen, but then they bring back down nice again into a decent PETER.
Some nice fireworks to close things out and I think it’s safe to say, you, me, the band, and the crowd are all feeling pretty good about now, boo-yah!
Occasional, consensual weekends with Supermodels might not be so bad, especially if they can’t get their space together😉
February 4, 2020 - 11:53am

#369

estimating prof

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Dekalb show - first thoughts

I got my Dave's 33 over the weekend and have given it one full listen. I have never given this show a focused listen before. Have heard about it for a very long time, but for some reason this was my first real listen to it.

Great dancing show. Super high energy. Jerry seems very inspired. Its as though he is doing finger dexterity exercises with his scales in a lot of these tunes. The guitar solo in St Stephen is insane. I can't remember hearing anything like that in the tune before.
My favorite track on one listen is Black Peter. Definitive version. Has to be top 5. A tune I love to hear throughout the 70s recordings and this one stands out immediately.
The Eyes of the world is also hot, but I agree with another post that the band is playing squarely on the beats in this show. Maybe Mickey's influence... You can really hear it in the Eyes, a little too much for my taste.

Overall, very happy with this show and I will be listening for a while. Super hot energy. Glad to hear this classic.
I can't wait for Miami 74. A personal favorite since the cassette times. Beautiful mellow energy and playing in that one.

Hope ya'll are doin well out there. Turn it up!
February 4, 2020 - 10:44am

#370

alvarhanso

Joined:
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Known knowns and unknown knowns

Nice Rumsfeld reference there Jim! I've had this show for a long time, too, and I do love the better sound on this copy. I didn't go down the '77 rabbit hole since getting it, but I did take the other 2 DaPs from Fall '77 (12 11/4/77 and 25 11/6/77) and made a "supershow" of my favorite bits. A lot of DeKalb's 1st set made it, and it ended up being as long as 5/17/77, the longest May '77 show, and kind of impractical on the setlist, but it coalesces the more hit and miss nature of Fall '77 into a more cohesive May-like show. And it lets me hear the highlights on two other shows that I found good and not great. I'm super stoked for 34, and the bonus disc will be new to me, but for 35, I would love a known unknown, or even an unknown unknown. Prime example of that would be something like 11/17/71 DaP 26 or the greatest unknown unknown in this release heavy era: 7/1/78 Arrowhead.

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Just like the singular Cornell, just like the one later called Sunshine Daydream, just like hallowed Hampton, DeKalb stands legend on its own as one of the most sensational performances the Grateful Dead ever did do. Early tape-trading circles earmarked the show as upper-echelon and when you have a listen, we're sure you'll be inclined to agree. The original reel-to-reel recordings have been shined and polished to perfection, showcasing mighty fine fret work, sparkling keys, and unparalleled harmonies. In fact, we can hardly pick favorites - from start to finish, there's just too much good stuff!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 33: EVANS FIELD HOUSE, N. ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY, DEKALB, IL 10/29/77 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

New Topic

No more ticket price rants.

Release on 1/24

Might As Well start shipping to the subscribers today

no sea side chat yet?

middle disc blues

that middle disc is going to have a lot of empty space on it. Just for nostalgia's sake, maybe bring back the "hidden" track, lol

whoohoo

Have not heard this show. Love the second set expectation of Glory! Might as well make it a green day here shortly.

Here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UiqEx_OuYs

Time to swim

He's freezing, but some lady behind him is going out for a swim....nice!

Ordered, love the fact that…

Ordered, love the fact that Dave was saying over and over that it was very cold and while doing so someone in the background went into the water!! Funny as hell. Great setlist and I cannot wait to hear this show.

Hope I get this one

Wondering if I will get Vol. 33 before Vol. 32 as I'm still waiting on my replacement copy to "be found".

Hope Bob W from Virginia who got my copy of 32 is enjoying it.

So much Space left

No bonus tracks ... damn petty. Uncool!

disc 2 = 3 listed tracks approximately 22 minutes ?

Need some filler

1.22.68 THAT'S IT FOR THE OTHER ONE

DAVE L. whats up with 3.16.73 & 7.1.73 ?

STRANGE BUT TRUE

Glad to see a new Dave’s Picks 33 is going to be
sent out soon. With some luck I just might get this one in a reasonable amount of time . Why would one say that considering that the company that sends them out takes great care to see that us ,or me , the customer is treated right and mistakes are kept to a minimum. Folks this is a joke of course
I still haven’t received Dave’s Picks 32 which was released in November. Have I called customer service .....yes......have I called the shipping plant ......yes.......has anything happened......NO......BTW .......Dave’s Picks 31 took over 2 months to get to me .......do I live in some foreign country ......NO.........I live in Brooklyn...........The reason was the package was addressed without my apartment number and returned to them whom say “it takes 6-8 weeks to rectify “ This hasn’t happened once but 2 times in a row ..........what is the definition of insanity..........trying the same the exact same way and expecting different results.......The real insanity is that no one cares at customer service in this company. It’s almost criminal to be treated this way . Over a simple thing as addressing a package correctly. Yes it’s strange but true and I have a subscription. So folks enjoy Dave’s Picks 33 ........I might receive 32 by maybe July and 33 by next Christmas

Insurance... ???

I’m subscribed...but really wondering if I should order one here, too, to insure I actually receive a copy. Still don’t have #32 and ran into a person on IG that never got their #31 shipped either. I sure hope all their issues are worked out!

!!!!!!

NO MORE WIRE HANGERS!!!!!!

Jriggy insurance

That’s about where we are, huh? I actually considered the same. My sub order is still “processing,” but last year sub is also and I received those so I guess I’m fine, right? Who knows

Filler?

Disc two is very weak. Hope there is some fall filler to fill up the remaining 60 or so minutes available

MCGRUPP216,

Yep. It’s a shame that we can’t be confident with this store and their processes.

Subscribed

Onboard for another year.

Looking forward to see what Dave and Co. do with the Workingmans Dead and American Beauty 50th releases. Wondering if a recently unearthed Bears Sonic Journal show will comprise the Workingmans live material and what's in store for AB?

When does this actually ship?

Long time fan, but first time ordering from this site. How long does it take before these pre-orders actually ship to us, please? Thanks in advance!

While everybody is on a high note....

....i have some bad news. R.I.P. Terry Jones of Monty Python.

#33

Hey Frobodine, love that avatar. Looks like conekid was correct as they have moved the released on date up to January 24, so in theory some will start receiving them on Friday. Last year mine always came at least five days after the release date. Let's hope that changes this year.
Another classic seaside chat. Only 9 minutes, shortest I can remember and yes, was that women skinny dipping? I couldn't tell.
Hidden tracks. That would be awesome. Remember Dick's 13 with that hidden Scarlet Fire from 1979, was that 35 minutes? Dicks 29, hidden tracks from the fall 1977.
That would be sweet!

Good ol' Terry Jones

"Oo! There's some lovely filth down here!"

"We don't have a lord!"

"well, I didn't vote for you"

"I WISH TO REPORT A BURGLARY!!!"

funny dude.

Here's to Terry Jones.

HEY DAVE IF U WILL ACTUALLY READ THIS

While your sitting at home counting your profits from Picks 33 .......some of us HAVE YET TO RECEIVE PICKS 32 .........I know my credit card gets changed with the quickness so why does the Dead Store customer service and the factory move at a snails 🐌 pace or move at all ?
I dare you to do a SEASIDE CHAT about this ?
I seriously doubt you actually care or actually realize this might be happening
Dead Store is worse than Apple Store for customer service
You should be ashamed
The sad part is we’ll still by the releases cause the product is what keeps us coming back
Once again put out a Seaside Chat about the SHOTTY business practice....... I dare you

Got the #32 Blues

Also waiting on my subscription copy of 32. Contacted the proper authorities.

I get soccer jerseys shipped on a regular basis from Ukraine, Russia, Malaysia, Chile, and other questionable regions...never had any issue, but the GOGD can't get me a small packet from Tennessee to Illinois.

On an actual note about the show, it rocks! Love the 2nd set.

Filler/ Disc 2

How about the 4 missing songs from Toronto, Canada 11/2/77 (the first 4 songs from the 2nd Set)? These are:

1. Samson And Delilah
2. Ship Of Fools
3. Good Lovin'
4. Sunrise (this was released with 30 Days Of Dead 2015, but does anyone really care about this song?)

The rest of the show was released in 2 parts as bonus material with DP34 & DaP12. As a completist I can't resist asking for the remainder!

Fall 77

...can't get much better than this.
Hopefully 'subscribe' is within everyone's collective vernacular here.

Sixtus

Filler/Disc 2

We could also darn near complete the 10/11/77 show that's been snuck in a couple of different ways.

Terry Jones

Strange dude, but funny, another one of my heroes gone. RIP Terry.
This release is a good one, had it for years on a bootleg CD that sounds pretty darn good, but these will be from the reel to reel, the actual reel to reel of the show, this is going to sound awesome, can't wait for this one to hear it again, only different, and better.
To all who have been ripped off, Man, I feel for you all and hope that this debacle gets rectified. I do wish that, as another head stated, Dave would address this issue, it is criminal that these fine folks have not received their merchandise. Has any one tried to get the charge taken off their credit card bill? I went this way a couple of times in the past and I did not have to pay for the product and did not have to send it back if it was defective. Don't know if that's possible since they charge up front for all 4 releases, but it's worth a try. I know Discover will go out of their way to make sure that you are happy. Too bad that's not the case with this company. Angry Jack Straw, ticket prices are too high. ;)

Daves Picks #2, Love it🙏❤️😎💀🌹

...I have s copy I. Like new condition and numbered. It’s a grateful release to get prepared for Daves pick #34 .
Please PM anything you wish to know further. Not to take up the message boards space. We can work together they pms or my email address. Thank you 💀🌹

LOL

Somebody's pissed there's no bonus tracks.

If they were expected to be on there they wouldn't be bonus would they?

Some people will never be happy.

Love My Girl...

...PM'd you.

In other news, can't wait for this release. Sure, some disc 2 filler would be great, let's see what we get. It will be a fine show regardless.

In other other news, I finally relistened to the Closing of Winterland set (12/31/78), which some of you fine folks were talking about on New Year's Eve. Haven't listened in quite some time. Holy smoke, what a great show. That 3rd disc combo of drums (with a harmonica squawking in the background) into a smoking Not Fade Away is just killer. Sure made my commute to & from work fly by today :-)

Speaking of new releases...

Does anyone know what’s up with Road Trips re-releases? They were moving right along pretty consistently every 3 months....they started with 4.5 and moved forward until 3.3 last summer, which was delayed, but was delivered....
Havent seen or heard anything since, which sucks as 2.4 should of been coming out about now?

Daves pick 2

All sales goes toward much needed to pay for medical prescriptions
$200

2020 subscription

My order has shown as pending since 10/31/19. No idea why still not processed. Worst customer service ever. Never a reply to my emails. Now worried I will not receive Daves Picks 33. At a loss of what to do next.

Not sold out yet?

Maybe they found the magic number.

Magic Number

Looks like they did. Now they have to keep the bar very high concerning quality. If they open the year with one of the 'lesser' shows they will never reach their numbers..

Not Sold out

I think the eBayers are buying less now that there are so many available. They must be having a more difficult time making a profit now that there are so many to compete with on eBay. There are also a lot of 1977 releases out there. It's not like 1973 where there was a ton of improvisation going on so a lot of the shows sound the same in 77. Just my 2 cents. And I just realized MacArthur Court 78 was released on this day.

22,000!

Seems to be a positive development for t all. This will sell out. Now how long? Complaints should decrease. I can't remember the last time we saw one of these picks go into day two.
Hard to believe they started in 2012 with 12,000.
Does anyone know how many they used to produce for Dick's picks?

These are great times.

Complaints won't quit....

....if said paid product never arrives. It is a thing.
ANNIVERSARY EDIT ALERT!!
Thanks for the reminder Minas! One of my granddaughters birthday is today as well!
Checking the back of the McArthurs Pick. 16,500 count. Good to know.

10 hours and counting...

I was going to try and resist this one, but it's still out there, teasing me, so I now i gotta get it. I'm sure it'll be great! Looking forward to the upgraded sound cranking in my car!

Hair

Manchester England England across the Atlantic sea......

Road trips from Real Gone

I sent them an email a while back asking. This was the answer: "Yes. Next year. Vinyl Dick’s Picks 24 coming first"
Sign up for the news letter and you will be on route for the next re-release of the road trips series.

2020 Subscription

Dave's Picks 2020 Subscription
(Pre-order - released on: 1/31/2020) 081227909277 $99.98
Ordered: 2
$199.96

If you can trust this information, I have 2 subscriptions to Dave's Picks for the year. Problem is, I meant to have 1. My attempts to get this fixed by support were unmet. If by chance you don't get your Dave's Picks subscription, I can sell you my extra copy at cost.

Maybe not gone because...

Maybe another reason they are not sold out yet because word has been filtering around of all the trouble people had or are having actually getting their orders. I don’t know how widespread the issues are but on IG and on YT (for the recent vid at least) you’ll find people complaining.
Not having piece of mind that orders will be shipped is a big hassle and can easily make some with limited funds not even wanna mess with it.
It’s a shame, really.

Keith's electric grand piano

Just listening to the listening party -- I have to say that when Keith switched to using the Yamaha electric grand in the Fall of 77, to me anyway, the overall richness of the band sound lost something that an integral part of their sound up to that point. It just doesn't add another dimension to the sound the way a real grand piano did, and keith never sounds as inspired on it.

Re: JRiggy

I'm sure it's a factor. I cannot believe they don't have a customer service function that works.. they need to fix this and the warehouse issue in 2020. These functions might cost money.. but they are not insurmountable and Rhino has other product lines besides the Grateful Dead to service and protect.

How does the story go? Don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg?

The other half is they are and have been dancing around the edge of demand. From 20k to 22k makes a big difference and they have released a lot of shows to this point.. How long has it been since you guys have listened to Dicks Picks #1?

Still, this is a top shelf 1977 show and it will be in high demand. I am surprised it has not sold out yet.

33

There is just no way that DISC-2 only has 3 songs on it...and one of them is good lovin….and another one is FOTD?!?!?!

There has got to be some filler hidden on that disc, but looking at the time of play for the last song(Friend), it's not like there is a total of 42-43 minutes for that track like say Dick's Picks #13 with the hidden Scarlet>Fire....with all the chatter about not selling out, I've got to guess that DISC-2 is contributing to that. This certainly is far & away the longest any of the Dave picks has remained not sold out for.

Not sold out?

Blame Jim and his comment about being bored of his supermodel girlfriend

Maybe 22k is the magic number for Dave's

Couple things, still amazed Pacific Northwest box is still available, given that a lot of people like that time period. It was 15,000 copies at about $190... I wonder what percentage of subscribers buy the yearly box release? Giants Stadium box was 10,000 copies i believe and around $150.. Get shown the light box, was the last box that put us all in the panic mode of stop everything or I won't get this... Also I know there has been discussion on here that Dead & Company were adding to demand, but is that audience more into streaming instead of looking at the "Album cover"??? The world will never know. be good everyone bob t

@RV3 - All Killer, but no Filler?!?

I agree RV3 - what a waste.

As most of us know, the show itself is great, but it is such a shame that they would release something with 3 "1st set-type" songs on an entire disc - it's under 25 minutes! Dave's 7 was like that too, but at least that one had a Scarlet>Fire on it. (To this day, that remains one of my least favorite of the series, and that scant disc 2 is totally a factor.) It's not like there is a shortage of material they could use to fill out that time. I wonder if Dave and Co. have decided to hold everything they deem to be releasable back as possible future releases. I have not yet had a chance to watch the seaside chat - does Dave mention anything about this?

Here's hoping there is something hidden there, but I am not going to hold my breath.

Peace

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