Dave’s Picks Volume 33: Evans Field House, N. Illinois University, Dekalb, IL 10/29/77

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January 22, 2020 - 9:18am

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clayv

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Just like the singular Cornell, just like the one later called Sunshine Daydream, just like hallowed Hampton, DeKalb stands legend on its own as one of the most sensational performances the Grateful Dead ever did do. Early tape-trading circles earmarked the show as upper-echelon and when you have a listen, we're sure you'll be inclined to agree. The original reel-to-reel recordings have been shined and polished to perfection, showcasing mighty fine fret work, sparkling keys, and unparalleled harmonies. In fact, we can hardly pick favorites - from start to finish, there's just too much good stuff!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 33: EVANS FIELD HOUSE, N. ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY, DEKALB, IL 10/29/77 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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February 17, 2020 - 6:11pm

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icecrmcnkd

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Royal VAT

You’re being charged to cover the cost of Brexit.
February 17, 2020 - 1:29pm

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Lovemygirl

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*Re/ Daverock

... I have to concur with you as well, I love Dicks Picks #10, a fantastic begining to end release . A very Primo performance of ‘Bird Song’ if I recall correctly! Speaking of Dicks Picks , I recently revisited Dicks Picks #33 & Dick Picks #21. Another two mighty fine Picks in the series! I ‘m enjoying some 71’ today myself. Road Trips 71’ release & Daves Pick series 71’! Loving it all my brothers & sisters. The sun is shing and the weather outside is pretty warm for this time of the year which I’m really grateful for, it’s a plus for me physically ; less pain in this old Deadhead body lol, “I’m still alive & learn to duck”... lol ... rock on & have a grateful week everyone! 🙏❤️😎💀🌹💀🌹
February 17, 2020 - 10:23am

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Colin Gould

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Amazon charges

SIMONROB

I don’t often use amazon.com, perhaps once a year buying the latest ‘Supernatural’ blu-Ray boxset but I think they add a little under £6 to the order to cover any import etc charges. If the charge is higher than this then amazon cover it. If no charge is made then the extra charge is refunded. This means all the Royal Mail or other delivery company handling charges are avoided. I have no idea how easy this is to set up.

Personally, I am OK to take the chance and pay up if ‘caught’. I am usually just happy that the item eventually arrives.
February 17, 2020 - 10:00am

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simonrob

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Amazon

Amazon do not add 20% to my orders, so I am not being cheated. I can pay either in US $ or in €. I pay in $ because the exchange rate used by my credit card company is better than that used by Amazon. Here in the Netherlands the limit for paying tax on foreign orders is higher than the miserly £15 that seems to be the rule in the United Kingdom. I am curious to know how Amazon pass on to the UK customs the extra 20% that they appear to levy on UK orders, thereby apparently ensuring that recipients of orders do not have to cough up when an order is delivered.
It seems that Amazon operate a different system for orders to the UK as opposed to orders to the Netherlands and possibly the rest of Europe.
February 17, 2020 - 9:46am

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GervaseFen

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AMAZON.COM

If you're paying customs duty on items that you receive from Amazon.com, then you're doing something wrong, Simon. As has been pointed out by several contributors, Amazon.com add the 20% duty to orders that total more than £15, meaning that you pay the duty at source so not only do you receive your order quicker, you also don't pay the Royal Mail's iniquitous £8 handling charge. If only Rhino did the same ....
February 17, 2020 - 7:41am

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simonrob

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Import charges

Whenever I purchase from Amazon US, they always state the true value on the customs declaration. They also make it clear that there is the possibility that tax/duty may have to be paid when it reaches my country. If the stated value is above the government determined limit, then I get charged by customs. Nothing to be done about it, unfortunately.
February 17, 2020 - 3:42am

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IanM

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Import Charges

I, like many others in the UK, have received an invoice for £11.80 (£3.80 VAT sales tax and £8.00 handling charge) to have DaP33 delivered. This is the first time I remember being charged a fee for a DaP release although I often get charged for the big boxes.
Reason is that the value of the package has been declared at $25 taking it above the UK import exemption limit of £15 whilst previous DaP's have been under-declared with a value of $1.00 and have thus avoided charges.
I have no issue with paying the £3.80 sales tax but the £8 admin/handling fee is extortion (although better than the £12 that DHL/UPS will charge).
I see no reason why Rhino can not charge the sales tax at the point of purchase as happens if I order goods from many other US based outlets such as Amazon and Ebay. At least that way I know exactly what I will pay and not be subject to the rip-off admin/handling fees.
February 17, 2020 - 2:15am

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daverock

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UK Charges and late 77

Potential VAT and admin charges could seriously bump up the prices of box sets ordered from deadnet too. Which is another factor that has made me a bit more reticent of late.

I was so stoked by Dekalb that I decided to play another show from late 1977 last night, and opted for 12/29/77 - Dicks Picks 10. Stone me, this one's even better. I'm currently spinning the Road Trips Vol 1. No.2, which is a compilation from October 1977. Totally fat free, it has better sound quality than the Dicks Picks. I haven't listened to a late 77 show in a few years... each year I tend to start in April and go through them in order. I'm lucky if I get to June some years...so I just miss a few out and go to 6/9/77, which is another stand out.
February 17, 2020 - 1:16am

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Happy Will

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VAT and Admin Charges

Like others in the UK I have been hit with £3.80 VAT and the associated £8.00 admin charge for DP33 even though it was "posted" in Switzerland (which would normally be exempt). And like others, previous DP's and Road Trips got through unscathed. BTW the postage charge is very reasonable, which helps balance things out.

As Customs seem to be hot on this now - various other imports, that would have gone under the radar, have got caught in recent months - forcing me to change my habits :). Would be better/possible if we just got hit with the charges once for the subscription (it is a one off payment) - and save £32 admin charges. Or look at how Vinyl Me, Please or TMR Vault do things.
February 16, 2020 - 3:40am

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daverock

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Daves 33

A most excellent release! Jerry's guitar is bursting with energy throughout the first set, and the concluding "Let Grow" is a perfect conclusion to the celebration. Incidentally, Bob says on two occasions that he - or they - are "getting their space together", which reminds me of that guy in the Dead Movie who cannot go into the show until he has done the same. Maybe a homage to that guy.

I actually like the second set more, myself. Great Estimated-Eyes, and I like the jams between Eyes and St Stephen labelled "space" on the sleeve, and the rainbow bridge from Stephen to Not Fade Away, which includes a nice drum and bass section.

LMG...I agree with what you say about how "They Love Each Other" underwent a metamorphosis during the retirement years...but a few songs seem to have suffered - or benefitted depending on your taste - from a change of approach from pre to post 1974. On this set alone we have drastically reworked versions of Let it Grow, Good Lovin', Friend of the Devil (which you mentioned), Eyes of the World and St. Stephen. I'm not sure they were improved for the better on the whole...but the Let it Grow and Eyes on this set are superb.

John Perry Barlow

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Just like the singular Cornell, just like the one later called Sunshine Daydream, just like hallowed Hampton, DeKalb stands legend on its own as one of the most sensational performances the Grateful Dead ever did do. Early tape-trading circles earmarked the show as upper-echelon and when you have a listen, we're sure you'll be inclined to agree. The original reel-to-reel recordings have been shined and polished to perfection, showcasing mighty fine fret work, sparkling keys, and unparalleled harmonies. In fact, we can hardly pick favorites - from start to finish, there's just too much good stuff!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 33: EVANS FIELD HOUSE, N. ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY, DEKALB, IL 10/29/77 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Rolling Stones tour

This week an electronic billboard on my commute home has been showing the Stones lips and tongue logo and the words “miss you”.
So I looked into it.

https://www.jambase.com/article/the-rolling-stones-tour-2020

Talk about high ticket prices. They’re the worst offenders.

I saw them once, 1989, maybe I should go again.

May 11, 1977 St. Paul

Back to May 77 but the first box. I find myself for some reason listening to these more than GSTL box... I like the design of the first box so much more than GSTL, which made me feel I was pulling out the video discs (pre-dated beta and vhs)... i know someone spoke about space versus jam, the other day, there is a space label between Uncle John's Band and Wharf Rat instead of Jam.. bob t

Ticket prices....

....Ween is coming to sin city in March. $74 including fees and $5 to mail an actual ticket to my house (because I'm old and like physical products). Not bad and a no brainer.

Dap 33

Disk 3 is smoking. Estimated>eyes>space>st.stephen.

Firing up DeKalbs third disc....

....never got this one in my tape collecting daze. Keith sounds really good.
Bob T' s comment of GSTL's video disc / laser disc comparison hit home with me. I member berry those. I also member berry they were over $100 back in 1981. Being able to watch movies at home was revolutionary, and very expensive. Dad didn't pony up for a player, but he did get a VHS. Chunky buttons and all. Remote connected by a five foot cord. Roots was my first experience in that medium.

Laser disks

I remember those disks. I think they were housed in a way just like albums in album covers. You put the whole disk in the player then pull out the empty holder till the movie was over then place the holder back into the machine and the disk automatically returned to the holder so you never touched the disk at all.

Laser discs delivery method....

....you are on point Carlo. The first time I saw one, my 13 year old mind was blown. Then I went back to my Atari 2600 because that was mind blowing as well.
Did I mention how good Keith sounds in DeKalb? Apparently a warm up for burning a Holiday Inn bed the next morning. He was on fire!!
"I'm not a piano player, but I spent last night at a Holiday Inn."

Rolling Stones Tour

Icecrmcnkd...what price experience ? I saw then numerous times between 1973 and 2006, and they always seemed expensive. But they were always worth it.

In fact generally, I can't remember ever buying a ticket and feeling sorry that I coughed up so much for the ticket. There are quite a few I regret not going to though. We pass this way but once. I think.

Art Work

hey does anyone possibly might have scanned art work for this Dave's Picks to share ? for whatever reason the admin from album art exchange is blocking people with VPN's addresses and what not. or people he is randomly deeming to be hackers? or so i've read on his twitter site.

Another Year, Another Missing Disc

Hi Everyone,

Posting here again because I think I'm at the end of my rope with this. I've still not received Vol. 32, and now we're into 2020 and Vol. 33 is nowhere to be found. I don't understand why they can't include tracking numbers for shipments (especially international ones) - I thought these were generated automatically.

I've written to Marye (she's great!) and she's helped in getting the Dr. to reply - but time there's just been radio silence on these issues. The lack of efficient customer service is really getting to be too much.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Matt in China

Vanity plates

First - sorry to everybody still waiting on 33 (or 32 and other items for that matter).

But that aside.... driving in this morning and was passed by a car with a giant Stealie on the window. Next noticed the plate - AMDEW. Given the nasty wintery mix we’re having this morning it should have been CLDRN&SNW.

Who’s got some cool plates? Here in Mass can only do six characters and can’t start with numbers so limits the outcome a little.

Enjoy and good luck for those waiting for packages

Re: May '77 Box 1

Bob, I'm with you on the first May 77 box set. It's probably simply a function of having five vs. four shows.. but there were surprises there for me. I'm going to drift away from '77 for a while, but I probably will be back in May for at least a few shows.

I would like to see them mix it up a little after '74. Something further off the beaten path.

Sorry to hear Chinamatt..

Connected Remote

VGuy for the win - a connected remote control for your VHS??? WOW

We had a VHS player that we got on Christmas as a family in like 1980-something. I vividly recall my dad being like "He's our first family movie we're going to watch on our new VCR (on Christmas Day No Less): RAMBO!" Ha. But we never had an actual connected remote; which seems to almost defeats its purpose...almost.

Glad folks are enjoying their spins on 33. Book-ended by burning beds, that explains the hot show here...heh.

Be Well People and travel safely to those around Beantown today.
Sixtus

SHAKE IT SHAKE IT SUGAREE

JUST DONT TELL EM YOU KNOW ME

2.6.89

@GreenMtnDead...

I worked at a friend's diner in Lenox for about six months in '98...driving down the Mass Turnpike one day I saw a car with a "Even Bobby Fans Need Love" bumper sticker drive by me...made me laugh out loud...

Dave's 33 Cover

Hey Kyle: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qx5j9ydoc7bzm8z/AAD8yK_vCv_kQ-oLkLJQVCEla?dl… (scroll down to #33)

Off topic w/ Stones tix

Well, as much as I love the Stones (been going to shows since 1969), I think I'll be passing this time around...the closest gig is in San Diego which will be just a bit too much to drive from No AZ...besides I had such a blast last August at their Phoenix area show I can live off of it...they do an advanced ticket sale for what is called "Lucky Dip" seats...you buy very cheap tickets and you don't know where you're sitting until you pick up your tickets at the will call window the day of the show...the last gig I bought two for $25 each...since nosebleeds were $75 I figured no matter where the seats were I was coming out ahead...come day of the show we went to the will call window...I gave the ticket agent my ID and order number and he had me stick my arm into the window so he could put a wristband on me with an additional wristband with a ticket for the Stage Pit right in front of Keith...we both just about fainted (it was a 112 degrees after all) and made our way in...was on my feet for nearly 5 hours but it was worth it...great show, great time...those pit passes by the way went for $450...

Stones tix on sale 2/14

The billboard told me so.

VHS and the "wire"

our first vhs was rented because they were like 700 bucks to buy. Me and a buddy split the rental cost. We were looking to tape all the monty pythons that were on pbs at the time. Even the damn tapes were expensive, we taped every thing in 6 hour mode to save tape! And yes, it had a 'wired' remote.

VCRs

We didn’t have one, but you could rent them at the supermarket. They came in a metal case that we were able to modify to get access to the one, mono audio out. We’d use a Y splitter and hook up to the stereo and watch The Dead movie or what other limited Concert movies we could get. It’s funny now, but back then that was sorta high tech!
Guess I was destined for AV?

KCJ: congrats on the win, but no comment on “the ensemble?

The Wire and Cassettes

Reading the VCR w/ wired remotes (is it really a remote at all if it's wired?), reminds of early tape trading.

I got some of my better tapes early on taping the FM broadcasts of New Years shows, taping David Gan's Grateful Dead Hour in addition to sending friends off with boxes of 10 cassettes at a time. That was high end technology back in the day.. much like the wired VHS remotes of the same day.

We've come a long way. I still think back with amazement when One From the Vault was announced and soon of the heels came Dicks Picks 1. Heaven.. like that scene in 2001 when they plan the theme song and show the plaque in the background. The next plaque came when BTree hit followed by Archive.org.

Charlie Miller should be a Medal of Honor recipient. Man, we've come a long way.
Now back to regularly scheduled drumz and space. I think I am going to flip flop between late 60's and mid to late 80's this week.. just to keep my ADHD in check.

VGUY72 - Ween...

...will not disappoint! Looking forward to seeing them again in my hometown on 4/4. I haven't seen them live since 2000 so really looking forward to it.

D&C

Looks like tour dates are final. Starts in Boulder at Folsom Field on July 10th, ends just about a month later at Fenway Park, Boston on August 8th. No surprises here except that there are no West Coast shows announced.. late summer / early fall for that?

Cool EP

Had a chance to give this at least a semi-distracted listen and a half so far. Finishing up a second listen, spinning disc 3 now, and that is a cool Estimated Prophet, may be one of my favorite versions, for the moment at least. That Eyes is no slouch either. The whole show has a nice flow to it, glad to have it.

The Ensemble

Sorry Oro...loved it man, just wasn’t sure how to add to it. Don’t worry though...took notes and already been shopping for some Italian leather boots and a pink paisley vest. I already have a hat that will work and plenty of GD T-shirt’s. Maybe some nice cutoff Jorts would complete it 🤔

On that note let’s cut to the Chiefs parade....some folks up in tree tops, just lookin for their...oh fuck...ouch!!!!

https://twitter.com/cantdeal_/status/1225094427217141761?s=21

Don’t worry, I’m Ok!

Chiefs parade

...just so that wasn’t you trying to drive in the parade, lol 😉

https://www.kmbc.com/article/charges-filed-against-42-year-old-kck-man-…

Connected remote

I think I have you all beat. Our vcr had a connected remote too. But it was only one slide switch to pause the movie. That's it. Ha

Wasn’t Me

I was not the driver but I had a front row seat. I reserved a hotel room down there last Thursday so we could get up early and walk a couple blocks to get a spot. We were directly across from the Sprint Center in a primo spot at the front of the rail. Saw the car speed down Grand 10 yards from us. The tires were already spike by that point and you could smell the burning rubber. About 10 cop cars sped after them and finally rammed them before they could plow into anyone. Miracle that no one was injured! Really crazy to see....later got to see the Super Bowl Trophy held up right in front of me. It was an awesome day.

Congrats to niners fans on a great season as well!

We did here some funny rumors about the guys driving the car. One said that the car had a Raiders bumper sticker. Another meme with a picture of the culprits “Bill Belichek and Tom Brady in full game day regalia”

The D&C dates are the only ones they are playing in 2020....

....and zero West Coast shows. Pardon my French, but that's kind of fucked up. Oh well. Guess I saved myself $200. Bring on Ween!!! Saw them a couple of years ago and had a grand time.

Burning Tires

It was me.. I'm blaming it on a glitch with my GPS.

With two good listens in

I'm thinking this show reminds me a lot of 4/2/73 from the Gahden. Its strength lies in consistently solid versions of song after song rather than one singular epic jam. Its been great to listen to here at work, jaunty and upbeat, whereas sometimes really spacey Dark Stars are lost on me when I can't zone out properly.

Also: PSA tonight on the Relix Youtube channel there is a free webcast of Voodoo Dead. New Orleans funk meets the Dead songbook. Where has this been all my life ?

Rogue

I agree with you. That was my first thought on the dap 33 sounding similar to 4/2/73. Even w/o an estimated.

Your GPS did it???

JimInMD, I'll need some instructions, cuz this goddam GPS I bought just will not produce meth and cocaine!

How do you dial that up? It's not like I haven't been trying....

Yer frend, Chief Smoking Rubber

Six point brewery Brooklyn N.Y.

Resin IIPA- 9.1% alc. 103 IBU. actually really good brew. Tall thin cans too. Smells like a pine tree in a can.

Re: GPS

Is that what they charged me with?
Crap.
Don't tell mom.

DaP 33 Eyes

✋ hi folks! Did anyone notice something fishy during EOTW at the 5:31 mark? Perhaps it's a chunk of tape missing. I don't really mind, it's just a curiosity.

Erikandjenn

I heard that too. Good ears on eyes. Strange but subtle.

Voodoo Livestream - Just in time for Marti Gras

Relix free livestream of Voodoo Dead. I always liked Steve Kimock, great lineup. Also Jeff Chimenti is a keyboard god.

Rocking shakedown.. into a soulful and Bluesy Sugaree now. Check it out. Bill it to my account.

https://relix.com/live/livestream-20200206-voodoo-dead/

p.s. don't drink milk on schoolnights. oh, the horror.

but seriously these guys are playing really good. ...anyone out there that likes to party and has not been to Marti Gras? One word.. JazzFest. Oh.. some qualifying information, food = great, cops = bad. Music = heaven-sent.

Voodoo Dead

Hell yeah. Listen to Jim, he's a wise and thoughtful dude. Put your internet machine on that link and watch these guys.

After Sugaree they did a long Funky Meters jam and HOLY FUCKING SHIT OPHELIA WHERE HAVE YOU GONE ?

Erik and Jenn

Scroll back through the posts on the DaP 32 page.
Prior to the creation of the DaP 33 page someone (I don’t remember who) asked about how the splice that was on the cassette tapes would be handled for this release.

It appears that you have found the first hint.

Voodoo Dead gig....

....is also on YouTube. And yes. Been a fan of Kimock since the Zero days.

This Bertha Kicks Ass

DeKalb might just be my favorite Bertha. Never heard it sounding better either.

Speaking of eyes of the world....

....there it is.

Bertha

In the immortal words of Oroborous, a Bobbie Dazzler. I have a few favorites, one being Englishtown. This one is good.. a great show, and very glad it FINALLY came out.

Love the Eyes of the World that's blasting on my big screen right now. When it comes to GDead cover bands.. you really need two lead guitarists. Just my opinion. More dead = Good.

RE: Vanity Plates

MU-TRON

Voodoo Dead

After Midnight. Slow and funky. The way that God and JJ Cale intended it to be. So good.

Anatomy of a jam....

....amarguitar has a pretty cool YouTube channel.
https://youtu.be/nRN5nIm8cTs
....yeah. it's Phish based, but the dude knows his shit. He puts out pretty awesome docs. At least Phish is playing the West coast this summer. Sorry. Some salt over here.

Dead&Co West Coast

I would be surprised if they don't do a little redux tour towards the end of the year. I mean.. I think the last E Coast New Years show was in 1969 or something.

I would be disappointed if they didn't do a West Coast annex.
Plus, I want to go to the Gorge.

Skulltrip

Good to see you. Hope you are well!

Bertha, yes, this one rocks!

Check out the Dead YouTube video release of the week from July 1990. A glimpse into future releases?

Jeff Smith

Yo! Jeff Smith! I got the artwork downloaded for Dave's 33 from in your drop box, thanks! greatly appreciated! i already listened to this on a bootleg and it was a great sounding boot from charlie miller. i'm looking foward to listen to a proper remaster soon. i still need to listen to the Giants Stadium Box set. yeah I'm quite behind for sure

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