Grateful Dead

Did you buy the 45 single collection? I just my 45 the other day. Nice art on this one and I loved the purple vinyl!

I received all three and downloaded them to my galaxy but t I can't get them to play. It's a phone problem I'm sure.

There is a Sinatra collection, the complete reprise collection I think. It's a 20 cd collection. Somehow I only have disc 1-12. Anyone have them all?

Thanks

I'm sure the word is out by now, but in case you missed it Real Gone Music is re-releasing all the road trips shows in reverse order. The format is CD. I missed all the Road Trips when they were originally released so its nice to get the chance to pick these up. The 11-15-71 Austin show is on its way now.

https://www.realgonemusic.com/news/2020/3/2/grateful-dead-road-trips-vo…

I have quite a few Sinatra boxes...I'll check which ones when I get home from the Salt Mine later...

This show is a winner from start to finish, what a killer of a show! If anybody missed out on this one the first time around they get a second chance to get it. The same with 2/14/68 Road Trips, what a rocker!

I'm pretty sure it said something about downloading to a laptop or desktop because phones dont support the unzipping necessary for these files. I had the same problem as well

Another thing about them is they are in m4a format, not mp3, or wav, or flac, or anything I actually use. So, if you're like me, after you download them to a computer, you will possibly have to change the format. I had to download a program for that. Wish they'd just send a link or code to get the download in mp3 or just allow the advertisement of the box set through musical previews to be free, and give the pre-order folks some June 76 filler tracks. But that's my pipe dream.

Sorry. I was trying to be funny should have added a 'haha'

Thanks. It figures.

Were these limited editions when they first came out or mabey subs.?

Road Trips were not limited edition, but a certain number were made and eventually sold out.
I didn’t initially buy them because they were compilations and not full shows. I started buying them when full shows started being released. If you subscribed you got a bonus disc.
At a later time (around 2011-12) I got an email on 4/1 that they were having an ‘April Ship of Fools Sale’. I think that you got 20% off and free shipping that day. I ordered all of the compilation RT’s that I didn’t have, but didn’t get the bonus discs.
I only got the Fall 77 RT a year or so ago when it was on this site and still with the bonus disc.

If you bought them early you received the bonus disc. The bonus disc don't come with the Real Gone Music ones. I did not buy them all. I did buy, 2/14/68, 12/28/79, 11/15/71, 5/15/70, Denver 1973, May 1969, 6/9/76, and they are all fantastic!

Interesting guys. Thanks.

Sorry but I don't have the Reprise Years set...what I do have is the Complete Capitol Years and various best of sets both in Lossless & MP3....oh and the Columbia years set too...

....I finally upgraded my smartphone from a galaxy S6 to the S20+. No baby steps here. Almost overwhelming. Almost.
Re RT. I have so much GOGD, I tend to forget about those. Blessing? Curse? I have most of them. Most bonus discs as well. I was missing the vol 3.3 bonus until MDJim/JiminMD/John Deere Hot Tub time machine dude blessed me four years ago.
Lookit Shadyguy. Fitting in like a glove. Welcome!!
Working backwards here and editing on the fly. Sinatra Box you say? I have a friend who would give a kidney for more Frank. Gonna look him up and share the news. No kidney required.

Concur.
100% with 2/14/68 and 11/15/71. BOTH EPIC.

These aforementioned Road Trips are La Creme de La Creme... aka delicious cheese curds

Sixtus

PS - Denver '73....is 'Hot Damn!'. I especially love the bonus material on that one as well as the whole release it's ridiculous. And 6/9/76 is, in my opinion, one of the best of all of them. It makes an amazing bookend for This Impending Box.

....Denver '73 it is. I recall it having a sweet UJB encore.
Second set. Half Step -> Playin' -> El Paso -> Playin' -> Wharf Rat -> Playin' -> Dew. Truckin' -> Nobody's Fault -> GDTRFB -> Saturday Night. Enc UJB. Yup. Just about sums it up. Lordy.

Since you mentioned BOC, I have been meaning to get back into them. Are there any good torrent sites for their early 1980's shows?

Surprisingly, the bonus discs were available from an online British shop I used to buy Dead releases from-Spin Records. Accepting the fact that they were often compilations of runs, there was some great music released. All of those already mentioned, plus, at least, the 6/16/74 and 6/18/74. which is one of my favourite releases in any format.The one from October 1977 is pretty good, too.

The worse thing about them was the brown cardboard packets they used to come in. They were packed so tightly I had to use a knife to cut said packet to get the cd out.

With the warehouse FUBAR'd, which will I get first the June 76 Box or the coronavirus?

Hey y'all. Sorry it's taken so long to gather together the12 volumes of Sixtus Picks along with a track listing – since that part of this conversation I've been in Dallas helping my mom transition into hospice care. Bittersweet of course, but she's an inspiration. Anyway, here a link to Six's great mashups. I re-numbered them so that they display in dropbox in correct order. I usually lean to listening to whole shows, but it is amazing how mesmerizing and surprising and tasty these jammed-out volumes are. THANKS AGAIN SIXTUS! Onward.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zjp65al8yuocmil/AAAe6zf_UG4OwKRJYLZkTc9Ba?dl…

First, thanks for the lookup on the Sinatra front. I have an incredible shitload of Frankie, but where ever the COMPLETE reprise collection siphoned in from it lacked the last 8 disc. I see the collection out there for sale, but I'm struggling to remain married,,,,,,, so. I have the Reprise and Capitol collections. The Complete Reprise contains the songs Frank didn't think good enough to release, but the label or the family said they're good enough to sell :-)

Jeff - Thanks for posting a link to the Sixtus Collection. I have the first 6 in stock, nice to have them all. If I knew you were going to be in Dallas, I'd have invited you over.

Finally, thanks Sixtus for putting this out there.

Listening to Little Sadie (to death like I do) and it strikes me the killer in Little Sadie gets off quite easy. In Viola Lee Blues, him and his brothers got a lifetime there. Dupree thought his life was just about right. But Little Sadie's killer only gets 41 years! And he seem to have had no reason to kill her! At Dupress wanted a gold diamond ring,,, and not even for himself!

I was enjoying Wharf Rat and then Donna joined in. She doesn't sound bad but I like this song a lot better with just Jerry singing. Ramble On Rose too. I bet she started inserting herself into more songs the longer she was in the band. You know what I mean like tell everyone that she's the backup singer so she should be in more songs? If you go back to the early 70s maybe even as late as 1974 she doesn't sing on Wharf Rat. But she's in the band. She's playing in the band.

I have not been following this thread: What is going on with this warehouse? I guess there will be shipping delays??

Another question: Any ideas why we have not seen any photos of the finished product yet?

Also regarding coronavirus please look into oxidative therapies such as ozone therapy and hydrogen peroxide therapies; likewise, herbs, minerals, and vitamins which are both antiviral and antibacterial. Stay safe community!

The Road Trips series is excellent. When it first came out I was put off by the fact they were not all complete shows. I even got in a little trouble over the debate of complete shows vs. compilations (that is a story for another time). When series started I was just as passionate regarding this band as I am now. So for the first few years these were being issued i bought some of the releases that were complete shows and fortunately I got the bonus discs with all of them. Funds got to be scarce for me I stopped purchasing them about halfway through the run.

Yet even though my passion remains high I am also much wiser these days. I definitely see the merit more so the value of any official release whether be of a complete show or compilation of shows. With wisdom and funds both increased I went a mission to get those releases I did not have. Thankfully for Real Gone Music and Ebay I have been to get just about all of the ones I was missing. Surprisingly I was able to acquire the bonus discs off of Ebay for reasonable prices. The only bonus disc I dont have is the one from Cleveland 12/6/73 with the mega Dark Star. Getting that disc on the secondary market costs mega dollars again likely because of the mega Dark Star.

I am sure most, if not all of you know that along with great music in these releases that there are tracks that when you combine them into a playlist it actually completes a whole set of a show. For example in the first issue - October 77, between the 2 discs and the bonus disc it completes the entire 2nd set of 10/16/77, along with a few 1st set songs. Plus there are the tracks from 10/11/77 that can be combined with hidden DP 29 tracks, which is certainly a treat especially for a show Dick Latvala regarded very highly.
The Fall of 79 has a similar combo of 2 CDs and bonus disc that when combined just about completes the 2nd set of 11/9/79. Then there is the summer 71 release bonus disc that when combined with DP 35 comprises a healthy portion of 8/6/71. Though I will say that for that 8/6/71 show, i do prefer the audience source.

Well.. I see.. Good Point Dennis. If I had to rank the songs, it would go Viola Lee Blues, Little Sadie then Stagger Lee - understanding this is just my personal preference.

The sentences in descending order were:

Viola Lee Blues, the crime isn't mentioned but some got six months, so we can assume it's barely a felony. "Me and my buddies got lifetime here" (Viola Lee got life). A major injustice.

In Little Sadie, the crime was murder in the first degree. Lee Brown got 41 years (not quite life.. we will call it halfway there).

In Stagger Lee, the crime was also first degree murder. Stagger Lee was not charged because he was basically a mob boss.. so he got nothing. Certainly an injustice, a judicial travesty of sorts.

..but there is some foreshadowing mentioned by the authors that alludes to a different ending although no proof is mentioned, the authors leave it up to us to figure it all out (as in many great songs).

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Stagger Lee ultimately got the Death Sentence but only after Mrs. DeLions shot him in the balls with her gun (we are lead to believe this was a 45). Getting shot in the balls with a 45 and then getting dragged off to city hall to face a what is most certainly a death sentence is ultimately the harshest penalty of the three.

In Little Sadie, his sentence was a little light, 42 years, probably out on parole in 20.. but it is probably within the state range in North Carolina. Typical sentences for a first degree murder range from 30 years to life. Although this isn't mentioned in the song, for the crime he committed he can expect to get beat up a lot in jail, so there's that.

In Viola Lee Blues, they get the harshest sentence of them all, the got "lifetime here" meaning life in prison. However, understanding that Noah Lewis was born in in the deep south in 1891and wrote Viola Lee Blues just before the Great Depression (it was recorded in 1928). As for the crime, since it is not mentioned.. it took some research but I do believe I was able to ferret out the facts. You see.. there is a similar event popularized by the movie Oh Brother, Where Art Thou where an overly harsh sentence was carried out in the Deep South and the three (me and my buddies) were not getting out.. and while the protagonist is serving his time and the great depression begins to ravage the country, his wife divorces him and gets engaged, he escapes from prison, finds his wife, gets pardoned by the Governor of Mississippi and we can only assume lives happily ever after.

So it all works out in the end, and we got the hit song Man of Constant Sorrow written by the Soggy Bottom Boys that was later covered by Jerry Garcia at several points in his career so the story becomes very much Grateful Dead Related.

Fear not, Dennis.. justice has a way of finding it's footing even when injustices occasionally rule the day. In fact.. that's how we got some of our favorite songs.

Grand Funk Railroad-Grand Funk
Genesis-Bonus Disc from '70-'75 box
Genesis-Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Lenny Bruce-American
Dave Mason/Cass Elliott-S/T

And a-wop-bop-a-loo-bop-a wop-bam boom!!

Dennis what about Tom Dooley? He didn't kill poor Lori Foster and look what happened to him. "This time tomorrow morning where do you reckon I'll be, down in a lonesome valley , just swinging from a white oak tree.". Now that's injustice!

Somehow, I always assumed it was the name of a penitentiary; However, there was a Viola Lee charged with running a
"disorderly" house(whorehouse) in June 1917, in Arizona. Two women and two men were also arrested...who knows? I'm still searching.

Didn't he get 41 years and 41 days and nights?

An extra 6 weeks to think about what he'd done.

Dylan did a great version of this song on Bootleg Series Vol 10, which is probably my favorite of the whole series.

JeffSmith - you're The Man for offering of The Volumes - I am glad the effort will not be lost to the ravages of time, but instead shared with All, as it should be. That's really cool.
Dennis - you are a music siphon the likes of which I have rarely seen!

Also enjoying this banter and thoughtfulness about 'the justice vs. injustice' present in some songs. I mean, think about it: those card players in Me and My Uncle got all shot up, over a game!
Poor fellers.

Sixtus

I believe Tom really did Laurie Foster

"I met her on the mountain, there I took her life
Met her on the mountain, stabbed her with my knife"

The Scottish version, kinda, he didn't kill her, but was betrayed by her. From a tune written by Jamie Macpherson while he waited to be hung. Updated by Robert Burns. I have The Corries doing it.

MacPherson's Rant
The Corries

Farewell ye dungeons dark and strong,
Farewell, farewell tae thee,
MacPhersons time will no be lang,
On yonder gallow's tree

It was by a woman's treachorous hands,
That I was condemned to dee,
She stood uben a windae ledge,
And a blanket threw o'er me

Sae rantingly, sae wantonly,
Ans sae dauntingly gaed he,
He played a tune and he danced around
Below the gallow's tree
(Chorus)

Oh what is death, but parting breath
On mony a bloody plain
I've daur'd his face, and in his place
I scorn him yet again

Sae rantingly, sae wantonly,
Ans sae dauntingly gaed he,
He played a tune and he danced around
Below the gallow's tree
(Chorus)

I have lived a life, o' straught and strife
I die by treachery
It burns my heart, that I must depart
An no avenged be

Sae rantingly, sae wantonly,
Ans sae dauntingly gaed he,
He played a tune and he danced around
Below the gallow's tree
(Chorus)

So tak these bands fae aff my hands
Gae to me my sword
There's nae a man in a' Scotland
But I'll brave him at a word

Sae rantingly, sae wantonly,
Ans sae dauntingly gaed he,
He played a tune and he danced around
Below the gallow's tree
(Chorus)

Now farewell light thou sunshine bright
And all beneath the sky
May coward shame distain his name
The wretch that dare not die

Sae rantingly, sae wantonly,
Ans sae dauntingly gaed he,
He played a tune and he danced around
Below the gallow's tree
(Chorus)

I got these two albums years ago by The Tannerhill Weavers. Played the shit out them, thought I knew all the words. Finally got to see the words, found they were mostly Gaelic and had almost all of them wrong! :-)

Some great stuff from them-there Scot people.

Speaking of crimes,,,

I never understood in El Paso, why the guy ran?

So in anger I challenged his right for the love of this maiden
Down went his hand for the gun that he wore
My challenge was answered, in less than a heartbeat
The handsome young stranger lay dead on the floor

The guy did try to draw! His bad luck he wasn't faster!

Steve Earle character, I think maybe he drew without the challenge part. From "The Devil's Right Hand" (Johnny Cash does a great cover)

Got into a card game in a company town
I caught a miner cheating, I shot the dog down
I shot the dog down, I watched the man fall
He never touched his holster, never had a chance to draw

Another "kill her" tune, Delilah, by Tom Jones. I listened to this tune for 30 plus years and NEVER realized he shiv-ed her!

At break of day when that man drove away I was waiting
I crossed the street to her house and she opened the door
She stood there laughing
I felt the knife in my hand and she laughed no more

I guess he failed to see the humor in the situation!

And yes, I AM the music siphon. OR, so I thought until I saw this the other day. Hope this isn't where I saw it. But a big wow from this guy.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/02/809977172/the-archive-of-contemporary-mu…

I am not convinced he killed her. Don't pay too much attention to the lyrics for the facts.. this is a well documented true story and in the end it is not clear that Tom Dula killed Laura Foster although it is quite clear she died (probably murdered) and he was convicted for it, the saga ending when life left his body while dangling from the wrong end of a rope.

"Asked in seriousness if he had any last words to say, Tom held his right hand and replied, "gentlemen, do you see this hand? Do you see it tremble? Do you see it shake? I never hurt a hair on the girl's head". The trap door was dropped."

It was on the first day of May, 1866, that Tom Dooley rode through the streets of Statesville in a wagon. He sat on the top of his coffin on that bright and shiny day with his banjo on his knee, joking with the throng of people walking along. He picked his favorite ballad on the old banjo, laughing as the wagon neared the gallows. When the rope was placed around his neck, he joked with Sheriff W. E. Watson, "I would have washed my neck if I had known you were using such a nice clean new rope".

Two links that shed a little more light on this...

http://ncvisitorcenter.com/Story_of_Tom_Dooley.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Dooley_(song)

Man.. you guys have outlined my work listening this afternoon. I feel the need to listen to many versions of all these great songs... while their narrative piques my curiosity and steers my imagination.

Grayson and Whitter 1929. Peppy, mountain music. The version you are most likely to be drinking local shine from an old stoneware jug.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9NHKINSKFk

Kingston Trio 1958 introduced by a young and dapper Milton Berle.. "when the sun rises tomorrow, Tom Dooley must hang"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3zdE8bliGI

Doc Watson 1964. One the best pickers to ever pluck a string
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkzgNgBk8_E

Tom Dula - Neil Young 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zouila8_-F8

Grateful Dead 1978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxetLkhani0

Dennis, in the Dead's version he's being accused by someone, "you took her on the hillside and there you took her knife. You took her on the hillside and then you took her life. You dug a grave 4 feet wide, you dug it 3feet deep, you pulled the cold clay over her and you tromped it with your feet." I think he was railroaded!

Ha.. in reading through the story of Tom Dooley it clearly shows the moral pitfalls of lusting over those two hot twins down the street..

Another lesson in morality brought to you by the Good Ole Grateful Dead.

Gus Cannon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClC_KizCpQk

Mas Gus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoNnqniMImk

Thinking of springing for the VIP experience when they come to Pittsburgh in a few weeks. Has anyone done this? Would typically never do this but it’s a perfect storm of Friday night, small new venue, and getting my tax return. One last time to see the man up close since I don’t go to Dead & Co shows.

...Ry Cooder's version. Nice Dixieland feel to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3oelgxQYEA

Ty - As for Wolf Bros.. that's a personal choice thingie ma bob decision. Perhaps check them out on YouTube and see if you think it will be worth it. A buddy of mine bought tickets for three of us and gifted me one, if I can find someone to watch my 11 year old I should be there. If not, we have an extra, mere mortal-level ticket.

I have did not do the VIP but i was at last nights show in Asheville, and I recommend seeing them. I am hopping they come close by again.

Looks like the NRPS set from Veneta 72 is getting released at RSD. To bad the dead release is Buffalo 77, was hoping all the leaks were wrong and they would be releasing the 3rd Fillmore west show.

Edit to add: Seastones set 4 is also getting released.

Thanks guys!

I was pleasantly surprised this morning when the new Cream box set was delivered. I didn't order it from Amazon, but according to their website, it isn't even released until tomorrow. That's what I call service! Its very handsome indeed-lovely hardback book with some great photos. I have just played the first cd, and sound wise it knocks spots off these shady releases that have come out over the last year or so - as you would expect. I realised just how familiar I am with the live songs released on "Wheels of Fire" and the original "Goodbye" albums listening to this. The versions on this first cd are all completely different to the well known versions on the aforementioned albums Great stuff.

I see that a 5 record set is being released on April 18th called The Very Best of Jerry Garcia. It's is going to be limited to 4000 copies. I bet that goes real fast. It looks like a very cool release.

Have never done it, but unless you specifically get to meet the band (and Bob), I would probably pass.

Your venue is half the size of where I saw them last year and smaller than the Capitol Theatre. Both allowed you to get pretty close to the stage. Then again , it is a personal preference. Depends on how much you want the memorabilia.

Been absent for a bit, but Blue Oyster Cult was my first concert. Loved that band in middle school and still play them on occasion. Took the city bus and got caught "sneaking in" even though we had tickets. Great time. Unless I missed it, surprised that nobody mentioned Godzilla. That was the highlight of the show.

Zilla, Zilla, Zilla . . .

Good news DAVEROCK. I am hoping the Cream box is delivered sometime tomorrow. At least that's what I'm being led to believe. Here's Hoping!!

As far as songs dealing with death and jail......here's one from Grand Funk Railroad

Can't Be Too Long-
Mark Farner

I killed a man in the spring time; Had to work hard just to make a dime,
To buy my baby the things that she needs.
I guess I didn't think twice, and now I have to pay the price,
For killing a man of another creed.

I guess I'll have to be strong, the rest of my life can't be too long.
I know I'll die some day, and be going far away,
And you won't remember the things that I've done.
I feel a shedding tear, it's only been a year,
But I know I'll be dead when the evening comes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh-z4ZUaKUU&t=1195s

Received a replacement disc for a defective disc on DaP31 today. Made the request shortly after receiving it last summer and had all but forgotten about it at this point, but here it is months later. Really got me wondering what was coming when I got the delivery notice from UPS yesterday, now I know.