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    marye
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    In one of the other topics, one of the folks seemed not to be so sure of the reception he'd get for saying he was a youth minister at his church. In my experience, Deadheads span the full spectrum from Agnostic to Zoroastrian. I've met atheist Deadheads, Muslim Deadheads, Buddhist Deadheads, Catholic Deadheads, Jewish Deadheads, and Wiccan Deadheads. My Deadhead friends are all over the map on this stuff, and as far as I'm concerned one of the real richnesses of the scene is the ability to see how things look to other folks and, sometimes, experience it from their world. Believe it if you need it, if you don't, just pass it on. But talk about it here, and please maintain a safe respectful place to do so.

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  • Mr. Pid
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    Then again
    there is a well established method of navigation called dead reckoning, which basically means using maps/charts and a compass and the occasional application of a parallel rule and a pair of dividers. Of course, if your compass always points to Terrapin... Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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    I Reckon...
    I always thought of Hunter's lyrics as this:when a person reckons something they are essentially assuming. You can make all the assumptions that you want, but in the end what do you really know? As the saying goes you should never assume because it makes an ASS out of U and ME. The only other reasoning that I saw fit is when you think of the definition of reckoning - to account for something - mostly this is used with regard to physical items, but can also be used in a non tangible way, ie: to be accountable for yourself. Due to the personal nature of the song I always held these to be more evident. Again, I think that Barlow's version of reckoning is being used more in the intangible sense. He speeks of a reckoning that we bring upon ourselves. I think his lyrics are based more around the concept of karma otherwise we can expect to bring a reckoning upon ourselves... definitely more apocolyptic: I'm dumpin' my trash in your back yard Makin' certain you don't notice really isn't so hard You're so busy with your guns and all of your excuses to use them. Well, it's oil for the rich and babies for the poor, We got everyone believin' that more is more, If a reckoning comes, maybe we will know what to do then This is the great thing about music though, is that everyone interprets it differently. ~littlebri
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    The Reckoning: Still Wondering...
    The Reckoning is mentioned directly in 2 Dead songs:We Can Run (Barlow): If a reckoning comes maybe we'll know what to do then Built To Last (Hunter): You can take a ton of reckoning, but you can't take it all. So, it would seem like the reckoning is referred to in 2 different ways by 2 of the Dead's main lyric writers, but both define it in a different way. Not to get too analytic, but Barlow = Apocalyptic, rapture-like final moment before..... what? Hunter = Karma (possibly the heavier variety), this seems clear. I'd love to know what Hunter & Barlow were defining "Reckoning" as. Knockin' on heaven's door
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    Thanks Marye...
    Thanks for the link to Wilson's site, Marye. Words we could all learn from, no doubt. It's hard to keep your mouth shut and your mind open (No Judgments)!!! Try it some time.... Hey J'man, got 2 saved for ya.
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    a true classic
    to say nothing of a huge boost to many musical careers!
  • Mr. Pid
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    also funny
    I know another golf pro and that's his favorite movie of all time. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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    ha!...reminds me of
    george clooney's line in "oh brother where art thou"............ " I'm the only one unaffiliated!"
  • Canyon Critter
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    No Affiliation here
    Never did like being labeled (stuck) to a certain denomination....yet I do believe!____________________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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    I have no idea
    who the licensing contact would be for the Family Dog stuff, but I guess Wilson would be the place to start. I agree it would be a classic bumper sticker, though I don't recall ever seeing it as one.
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    bumper sticker
    i want one i want one!!!.........or 2
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In one of the other topics, one of the folks seemed not to be so sure of the reception he'd get for saying he was a youth minister at his church. In my experience, Deadheads span the full spectrum from Agnostic to Zoroastrian. I've met atheist Deadheads, Muslim Deadheads, Buddhist Deadheads, Catholic Deadheads, Jewish Deadheads, and Wiccan Deadheads. My Deadhead friends are all over the map on this stuff, and as far as I'm concerned one of the real richnesses of the scene is the ability to see how things look to other folks and, sometimes, experience it from their world. Believe it if you need it, if you don't, just pass it on. But talk about it here, and please maintain a safe respectful place to do so.
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What is POTUS please??********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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President Of The United States And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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DUH! Silly me! thanks BobbaLee********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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I found this entire thread interesting, entertaining, and inspirational. My own spiritual beliefs have changed over time. I used to belive that heaven and hell were places beyond the earth that we would all arrive at sometime after we passed on depending on how we lived our lives. I have come to believe that the ideas of heaven and hell are metaphors for what we feel or become as a result of our actions while we live here on earth together. Entheogens gave me a new perspective; I felt a palpable "kinship" to everything around me. My mind told me that I was connected to everything else because I and most everything around me was composed of mostly carbon and water, that all of the atoms I was made of came from something or someone before me, that all I was made of would pass on to someone or something else eventually, atomic soup. My first mind-blowing ego-busting experience with entheogens carried me into another realm of awareness which I can't put into words, though I try. I believe that beyond the physical being, somewhere between dreams and hope, there is a pure light inside of all of us. I miss the joyful glorious Grateful Dead Shows! Thanks to all those who have shared their experiences and beliefs. -sludj
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Artist: The Beatles Lyrics to Fixing A Hole: I'm fixing a hole where the rain gets in And stops my mind from wandering Where it will go I'm filling the cracks that ran through the door And kept my mind from wandering Where it will go And it really doesn't matter if I'm wrong I'm right Where I belong I'm right Where I belong See the people standing there who disagre and never win And wonder why they don't get in my door I'm painting my room in a colourful way And when my mind is wandering There I will go And it really doesn't matter if I'm wrong I'm right Where I belong I'm right Where I belong Silly people run around, they worry me And never ask me why they don't get past my door I'm taking the time for a number of things That weren't important yesterday And I still go Fixing a hole where the rain gets in Stops my mind from wandering Where it will go **************************************** And after fixing this whole, nothing lies in between! I'm taking the time for a number of things...
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I don't know how many millions Harold Camping spent on billboards advertising today as "judgement" day but I know it would have been much better if he had just donated the money to soup kitchens. See you tomorrow.
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just the occurrence of the "Rapture". Actual judgement day comes later, after the Apocalypse....of course, nothing has happened yet, and only He knows when it will, but yeah, dude shoulda made better use of his money..
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From a Christian perspective Jesus said that no one, not even him, knows the time except God the Father. That's why I don't get Christians who predict the end of the world! Whatever you believe you should be spending your time loving yourself and your fellow human beings "as yourself". That way it doesn't really matter! I plan to be checking back in tomorrow!
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And Ahnult is rather busy right now with his five kids, nanny & Maria Ave, Ave, Ave Mariiiiia! Been chipping up rocks from dawn till doom While my rider hides my bible in the other room
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and I just lost my temper. But I don't feel it's right to belittle anyone's spiritual or religious views.....this forum should be for honest discussion and sharing, so please excuse my response..
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groundrules pretty clear in this topic, please don't do this stuff here. Thanks. In current events, have at it, within reason.
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Now I remember why I don't go to church. Equate religiosity with being grim if you want. Banning others from doing so is just fascist and adds to your own ego. Been chipping up rocks from dawn till doom While my rider hides my clown mask in the other room
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I love a good joke as well as the next person, but humor at the expense of other's beliefs just feels wrong to me. My apology came from the heart, I'm sorry you can't accept it in the spirit it was given, please excuse me.
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I can vouch for Johnman enjoying a GOOD joke! :) Here's a cooky.********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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I'm not a facist, and my ego is too small to bother feeding...and I AM sorry. Forgive me, please, Anna??
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The point is that due to the difficulty of this thread topic, we have done a good job thus far (mostly) with keeping it interesting, civil, and kind. Perhaps Johnman was nerveous that if we start making cracks in here, all hell could break loose. This is really about the most delicate thread on this site. Crack all you want-but it would be wiser to do so in other threads :) As our mod marye said, the news and current events thread would be the better place for Arnold comments. The spiritual thing to do would be to accept Johnman's apology! :) ********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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it would've been a pretty hysterical post. But context is everything. Hey, it doesn't belong in tape traders either.
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What we need to do is to wrtite out what you're thinking, and then go explain what you meant by each and everyone of those words. Because even if you just want to keep the train rolling,and are doing it with a loving and egoless heart, or just trying to be funny, some people are just going to look for the worst in everything. If I thought about all the possible meanings people would come up with for everything I post before I posted it I'd never post anything. Forgive and forget,tomorrow's another day,
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I should have said, sometimes people are just..., instead of "some" people... happens when you have a lack of communication, I've done it too.
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about the moving along and tomorrow being another day.
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Too bad Dead,net can't, don't ever remember religion being a big topic at Grateful Dead shows, thank God.,But if you ever want to divide people,great forum.
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read the title piece.....we come in all beliefs, or none....and that's the point...believe it if you need it, if you don't jus' pass it on...makes perfect sense to me..........
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spam post! I will go and seek it out. Meanwhile I will see if it generates any interesting riffs here.
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am also curious. Find the idea of Jeans for Jesus to be absolutely bizarre!!!!!!!********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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that I can think of several jokes about this company's name. Jeans so tight you see God when you wear them? Also the spam is very poorly written-maybe while they were designing True Religion jeans they forgot their English? ********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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that was not the idea, but I am not exactly hip to these fashion trends.
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that one cannot be concurrently into fashion and Jesus, but it hardly seems respectful, as others have pointed out, to go around wearing one's preferred sacred symbol on one's butt.
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guess I am not hip either, cuz never heard of this brand before today!********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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Hello to johnman, tigetlilly, maryeI miss my extended GD family here. Peace and love is the answer no matter what the clothing of belief system they wear. Still Missing Jerry. Furthur coming to Missoula in Sept., got tickets. How rare for any form of the Dead to appear around here. But they are. Hope nobody throws a beer bottle at them, which is what happened the only time the Grateful Dead came to Missoula. Well those plastic cups don't make very good missles, so they should be safe If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Nice to see yer still kickin'.....are you still on the dry side of Washington?.....and, again, God Bless All Here....even the spam faced spammers..
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Am smiling from ear to ear to see you posting!! Enjoy Further! ********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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Man I'd sure like to make it to Missoula... whoops, this is the religion thread... "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Bless my stupid keyboard..
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I religiously hope I can make it to Missoula ... heehee "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Music is spiritual, so you aren't off topic JackStraw and yes Johnman, I am still here on the other side of the Cascade Curtain. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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is that it didn't show up yesterday, when I deleted the spammer and several of his other posts!
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in "my web site", and "cosmic connections"...at that point I stopped looking, but I'll wager it's in "gainful employment" and a few others....including the vines.......
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sucker probably just went down the list....
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okay, I'll take a look.