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clayv

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During the mid-1970s, the Grateful Dead saga was unfolding like a Greek classic. The Sisyphean Wall Of Sound had nearly broken the band. From it spawned a Medusa head of countless side projects, all deliciously fruitful but woefully not the same as the whole. The chorus lay in wait, pondering the reemergence of their heroes, and wondering if "THE LAST ONE" had really been it...

But in early 1976, Apollonian light and healing would shine upon our intrepid wanderers once again. No more epic battles for the people with cops and lines and tightness, the Dead would return triumphant in smallness, playing intimate theaters and renting equipment along the way. No more ticket scams and greedy promoters, they'd give back with first ever mail-order ticket program, one that had a few kinks to work out but eventually served the fans well.

Musically, June 1976 signaled a Golden Age of harmony and prosperity for the Dead. It marked an Odysseusian-like return for Mickey Hart. Donna Jean was in lock-step with the sirens' call. Jerry and Bob delivered orphic delight with solo musings like "Mission In The Rain" (the only tour they ever played it on), "The Wheel," and "Cassidy," emboldened by group effort. There was fresh repertoire from Blues For Allah, breathing new life to the Dead's continually morphing sound - as Weir once said of the '76 tour, they wanted to play "a little bit of all of it." Old favorites were re-envisioned with cascading tempos and unique sequencing, making the crowd question if they'd ever heard these songs before. And there was comfort and joy in the familiarity of watching the band make it up as they went along. By all means, it was clear that the bacchanalia of live Dead would reign on.

And now the revelry from this epoch, evidenced by the near-studio quality sound captured on two-track live recordings by Betty Cantor-Jackson, lives on, bolstered by Jeffrey Norman's HDCD mastering. It's housed for posterity in a handsome box featuring original art work by Justin Helton. It’s documented in liners by Jesse Jarnow and photos by Grant Gouldon. And it’s ready for a spot on your shelf.

As part of our pre-order for this Dead.net exclusive boxed set, we'll be delivering downloads of each listening party - one for each show included in JUNE 1976 - to purchasers from now until the March 20th release. Order at any time before release and you'll receive all the listening parties to date.

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 12,000

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 15 Discs

Boston Music Hall, Boston, MA 6/10/76

Boston Music Hall, Boston, MA 6/11/76

Beacon Theatre, New York, NY 6/14/76

Beacon Theatre, New York, NY 6/15/76

Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ 6/19/76

Sourced from Two-Track Master Tapes, Recorded By Betty Cantor-Jackson

Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman

Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

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March 22, 2020 - 12:13pm

#1271

fourwindsblow

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3/22/69 Dark Star

https://archive.org/details/gd69-03-22.sbd.cotsman.8994.sbeok.shnf

ps I'd like to hear the rest of this show. This portion was fantastic!
March 22, 2020 - 12:11pm

#1272

stillwaters

Joined:
August 30, 2012

Individual Show Scans?

Hey Kids!!
Anybody have access to scans of the individual show folders?
Mahalo!
March 22, 2020 - 11:33am

#1273

Jason Wilder

Joined:
September 21, 2011

Cooped up, so listening & posting

New box sound is incredible. On that score it is definitely top notch.

In terms of repeats, a lot of the earlier years were pretty repetitive. Less overall material and more new songs, which got repeated a lot. And for '76, there were only 2 tours (41 shows). Another tour might have broadened the menu some. And, no acoustic sets or extended runs with guests (Dylan) or personnel changes.

# of different songs performed by GD year/# of shows):

Over 100 different songs: 1987: 150 songs/85 shows; 1994: 145/84; 1990: 144/74; 1995: 143/47; 1993: 143/81; 1991: 138/77; 1989: 135/73; 1992: 134/55; 1988: 131/80; 1985: 130/71; 1986: 125/46; 1984: 125/64; 1981: 123/82; 1970: 119/142; 1982: 110/61; 1983: 110/66; 1980: 103/86.

Less than 100: 1969: 97/146; 1979: 93/75; 1971: 90/82; 1972: 87/86; 1978: 86/89; 1977: 81/60; 1974: 83/40; 1973: 77/72; 1976: 66/41; 1966: 63/102; 1968: 46/117; 1967: 32/121; 1975: 28/4.

Though I guess one should go ahead and do the different songs/show math if you want a real diversity rank. Though I guess sings per show would have to factor as well.

And, surely, the lack of set lists from the early years depresses the numbers some.
March 22, 2020 - 10:46am

#1274

Jason Wilder

Joined:
September 21, 2011

Box Summation

With the caveat we can disagree about what qualifies fir a box, I nixed the ones that do not include full shows (So Many Roads, Golden Road, Beyond Description, GD Movie Soubdtrack.

Year: # Boxes: Shows/ Discs
1969: 1: FW CR: 4+/11 (2005)
1972: 1: E72 CR: 22/73 (2011)
1973: 1: W73 CR: 3+/10 (2008)
1976: 1: J76: 5/15 (2020)
1977: 3: W77 CR 3+/10 (2009); May77 5/14 (2013); GStL 4/11 (2017)
1978: 1: J78 CR: 5/12 (2016)
1989: 2: Warlocks 2/6 (2010); RFK 2/6 (2017)
1990: 2: S90 6+/18 (2012); TOO 8/23 (2014)

Multi Year:
1973/74: PNW CR: 6/19 (2018)
87/89/91: Giants: 5/14 + 1 DVD (2019)
74/78/80/85/87/89-91: ATYC: 10ish/14 (2012).
66-95: 30 Trips: 30/80 + '45 (2015)

What's next? The absence of '68, '70, and '71 boxes is glaring. That would get my vote. 3 issues are: having the tapes, some stuff already released, and the deal for the Betty's may include getting them out first.

October '68 is really interesting. You could do a break-up/make-up box with the Mickey & the Heartbeats shows (no Bob/Pig) on the 8th-10th; the Avalon shows with Bob back (11th-13th). And then the 10/20 & 10/30 shows with everyone back (& Cassidy & Bishop guesting on the 30th). IDK if they have tapes, though.

Don't think they have fall '70 tapes, but 2/11, 2/13, & 2/14 deserve a complete release, though a lot of 2/13 & 2/14 is already out.

Ditto April '71. That closing of Fillmore East run. 5 shows. Could also be issues with permission for the Beach Boys/Duane Allman stuff.

Would love acoustic '80 stuff, but I don't think they have the tapes (as the Warfield release proves). And we just got peak Brent/Bruce with Giants, so I think Alpine or a Meetup video box is probably out.

So I would predict Betty's. Likely from '73-'74. October '74 Winterland has already been released in part. So I would go '73. Either 2/9, 2/15, 2/17 or 5/26, 6/9, 6/10. .

Sorry for legnth.
March 22, 2020 - 10:12am

#1275

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Mumblings of a boxless curmudgeon

Dam kids, get off my lawn, and quit having so much fun! Lol
Sounds like the box is a real Boobie Dazzler, glad your all enjoying it so much....I’ve been doing the Spring 90 shuffle instead, hard to believe it’s been 30 years!
Also think I might use this time to try and get ripped the remainder of the huuuggge stack of Discs Dead.net Sandy Claus sent a ways back that I haven’t had time.
Hey, have to find the upside right?

VGUY: thanks for the Betty tip. That ought to be awesome!

CHARLIE: Thanks for the huge laughs! I only rode the bus 2 years for half days to “trade school” Senior year we’d go to regular school in AM then head there via bus on the Thruway to another town/school district etc. (Stoners from like 6 different districts)
Our school had 2 busses. One completely overcrowded with 70s freaks doing pretty much everything because 1) it was late seventies and the inmates were sorta running the asylum, and 2) because we had the coolest bus driver ever: this super hip black dude named Bill. I swear I saw him hit the bong on occasion!
Only like a half dozen quiet/loner/awkward types rode the other bus.
So as part of the journey, we’d have to go through a toll booth. So for some reason they’d always pull into 2 separate parallel booths at the sane time, bad move! Degenerates that we were we would use that opportunity being side by side, especially if there was a line, to have massive food fights, Er a, more accurately us idiots on the rowdy bus would pelt the “good” bus. It was becoming a thing with folks literally bringing old vegetables from there families gardens etc, just crazy stuff, especially if the good bus forgot to shut their windows!
This went on for longer then you’d think, until one day some jack ass thought it’d be funny to get the booth attendant and no it wasn’t toll both Willy!
So next day the circus comes rolling up and don’t ya know the fuggin State troopers are waiting for us....good bus sails right through and we get pulled over and boarded. Holy shit talk about people getting creative about stashing big bongs, various rotten projectiles, you name it, and poor ole Bill was freaking out! (Don’t Blame him!).
Well being the seventies and “kids being kids” and 5 0 really not being that into it thank God, they basically just came through and shook some nap sakes and yelled a little and put on a show to scare us enough to “not jump off the balcony” Er, a, stop throwing shit out the windo etc, oh yeah, and from then on we always pulled up single file 😉

PS: need to blow those hits out the windo Bra! LOL. Ozium helped too, but like you said, who did we think we were kidding!
March 22, 2020 - 10:09am

#1276

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Gratefulhan

Check PM
March 22, 2020 - 9:57am

#1277

deadfeat1

Joined:
July 3, 2008

BOG and Boxed

I believe yesterday someone was asking if the BOG, Groovy Music was worth buying - absolutely!

I suck at picking and ranking things, but every full or partial boxed sets I have listened to are among the very best...

Really enjoy the lists, though.
March 22, 2020 - 9:52am

#1278

Gratefulhan

Joined:
June 6, 2007

FW box

So one of the few Dead.net musical releases I do not have is the FW box. My embarrassing admission is that at the time when it came out, I was more into shows from 72-74 and 77. Because of that and my cashflow at that time to a somewhat lesser extent I passsed on it. I was wise enough to get the 3 CD compilation which surprisingly came with the bonus disc.

I had 3/1/69 on tape back in the day and the 3 disc compilation set so I am familiar with the shows. However seeing how highly regarded the FW box is on these lists has compelled me to make acquiring it my next conquest.

Looking at the secondary market the 2 most expensive releases to acquire are: the FW box aand Dave's Picks Vol. 1. Spring 1990. TOO, the Warlocks, Dave's 2-4 get up there on prices as well. Right now on ebay there are a few FW boxes sitting at about $500. Recently a complete FW with discs only (no box no sleeves, just the loose CDs) on an auction went for $200. A cheap price for Dave's Vol. 1 is $250. It would be hard for me to shell out 500 big ones for the FW box. Similarly I am not keen on paying $250 for Dave's Vol. 1. However if I could get the complete FW box for $250 (discs, box sleeves) I would do that. I might have to wait for a while as I am not sure when or even if I will find it at that price. It just seems like that box is the "missing link" for me.
March 22, 2020 - 9:45am

#1279

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Talk about repetitiveness

There’s a lot of song repetition in FW69.
I don’t have the physical box, but do have a copy made out of digital ether. Also have 27,28 on vinyl which are made from Plangentized remasters. Thus, those who don’t want the FW Box rereleased are denying themselves a better sounding copy.
Personally, I think I like 11-10-67 and 2-14-68 better than the shows in FW69 (not that I don’t like FW69).
So Dave, bring on a 67/68 Box (after the 71 Box).

Don’t forget about the From The Vault Box which contains a remastered 8-13-75 and a third disc with FTV2.

Box speculation is fun. I agree with what others have said in the past, that ABCD Enterprises may have stipulated that the returned reels get priority treatment for release within a set time frame. ABCD is run by Deadheads, and they want the reels released just as badly was we do. I wonder how many copies of each release ABCD gets, and if they are unnumbered.

Jamming to 6-15 set 2 right now.
Sound quality on this release is spectacular.
March 22, 2020 - 9:26am

#1280

Charlie3

Joined:
September 21, 2015

Ranking Boxes

For me it really depends on my mood at the time. Different box sets fit different moods. Having said that, FW '69 would be at the top of the list for that 2/27/69 Dark Star, just like Live Dead will always be at my favorite original album. That 2/27/69 Dark Star was instrumental in turning me on to the Dead in the first place, that whole Dark Star - St. Stephen - Eleven - Lovelight sequence was unlike anything that I had heard before. Once I discovered Live Dead it replaced most of the classic rock that I had been listening to on my morning ride to school on the bus.
Looking back it surprises me sometimes that the school bus driver didn't just drop a few of us off at the police station. There were about 5 or 6 of us that would just sit in the back portion of the bus and smoke bowls, carefully covering the bowl and discretely passing it around. I mean, we thought we were slick, we'd hold our hits for as long as possible to minimize the smoke, but it obviously must have reeked. Everyone else in the back of the bus knew, and in fact pointed it out on one or two occasions. And yet, nothing was ever said. But I digress, I was talking about box set rankings...

John Perry Barlow

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During the mid-1970s, the Grateful Dead saga was unfolding like a Greek classic. The Sisyphean Wall Of Sound had nearly broken the band. From it spawned a Medusa head of countless side projects, all deliciously fruitful but woefully not the same as the whole. The chorus lay in wait, pondering the reemergence of their heroes, and wondering if "THE LAST ONE" had really been it...

But in early 1976, Apollonian light and healing would shine upon our intrepid wanderers once again. No more epic battles for the people with cops and lines and tightness, the Dead would return triumphant in smallness, playing intimate theaters and renting equipment along the way. No more ticket scams and greedy promoters, they'd give back with first ever mail-order ticket program, one that had a few kinks to work out but eventually served the fans well.

Musically, June 1976 signaled a Golden Age of harmony and prosperity for the Dead. It marked an Odysseusian-like return for Mickey Hart. Donna Jean was in lock-step with the sirens' call. Jerry and Bob delivered orphic delight with solo musings like "Mission In The Rain" (the only tour they ever played it on), "The Wheel," and "Cassidy," emboldened by group effort. There was fresh repertoire from Blues For Allah, breathing new life to the Dead's continually morphing sound - as Weir once said of the '76 tour, they wanted to play "a little bit of all of it." Old favorites were re-envisioned with cascading tempos and unique sequencing, making the crowd question if they'd ever heard these songs before. And there was comfort and joy in the familiarity of watching the band make it up as they went along. By all means, it was clear that the bacchanalia of live Dead would reign on.

And now the revelry from this epoch, evidenced by the near-studio quality sound captured on two-track live recordings by Betty Cantor-Jackson, lives on, bolstered by Jeffrey Norman's HDCD mastering. It's housed for posterity in a handsome box featuring original art work by Justin Helton. It’s documented in liners by Jesse Jarnow and photos by Grant Gouldon. And it’s ready for a spot on your shelf.

As part of our pre-order for this Dead.net exclusive boxed set, we'll be delivering downloads of each listening party - one for each show included in JUNE 1976 - to purchasers from now until the March 20th release. Order at any time before release and you'll receive all the listening parties to date.

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 12,000

What's Inside:

5 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 15 Discs
Boston Music Hall, Boston, MA 6/10/76
Boston Music Hall, Boston, MA 6/11/76
Beacon Theatre, New York, NY 6/14/76
Beacon Theatre, New York, NY 6/15/76
Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ 6/19/76
Sourced from Two-Track Master Tapes, Recorded By Betty Cantor-Jackson
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

Still Waiting for June '76

June '76 has not arrived yet to my home.
Just listened to my tape-version of:
JAI-ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 - (Dave's Picks 34).
Very playful, tender and mellow. U.S. Blues is great.
Also waiting for DaP 33. Bummer!
When in the States, Sam Adams is one major brand beer I do like.
Take care

Dead Vikes / Road Trips 3.I

Dead Vikes, great pick , you hit a home run with this pick! The bonus material you mentioned is also great. The Minglewood Blues is the best version that I ever saw them do live. This run would have made a nice box set, fantastic recording quality!

Guiness- Angry Jack Straw

Angry Jack Straw,
we've visited the Guiness Brewery in Dublin some time ago.
I remember they said they were making 4 or 5 different types of Guiness.
Here in Germany there's only one type of Guiness around. Wonder why?
Of course, on tap all beers taste much much better than bottled beer.
Take care!

@HendrixFreak

Thanks for the offer and I will check out the official Jimi H webpage regarding those cds. My desktop computer is old and the cd/dvd burner is not working consistently so. . .. The guy who built it for me moved away so I am not sure what I'll do. I could buy and external one pending having a new desktop built. I'll let you know when as I build my official Jimi live release collection.

Does anyone remember The New Amsterdam beer Co.?

Sadly they are not around anymore but they made a great black and tan beer in a bottle. Guiness in a bottle is nasty the draught in a can is good. Guiness is better in Ireland; it does not travel well but is still good on tap elsewhere.

deadegad -Guiness

Deadegad,
excuse me,
I do not understand. What is the difference between a beer in a bottle and draught in a can?
Is can barrel/keg?

Guinness bottle vs. Can

The bottles of Guinness are just the stout. The cans come with a CO2 charge canister inside so that when you pop the top, the beer pours out more like a proper Guinness draught. I prefer the cans myself.

Peace

1976 box #5018

1976 box #5018 has arrived in Scotland after visiting customs. Paid on-line and they delivered today. Played the Boston shows today and enjoyed greatly. NY will be tomorrow’s treat.

Santa Fe September 10, 1983

Mark me down with it. 9/10,11/83 had to have been my two favorite Dead concerts of the 80s that I attended. V-guy remember the rain during China Cat/ I know You Rider with the rainbow arching down to Earth beyond the stage. It was fucking Wow!
Also New Years Eve 81 with Ken Kesey right before midnight and later a Dark Star peeled my face right offa my head.
Also this coming Saturday the Native American Music Awards will be having several Native musicians performing from their homes. Time; 5pm-9pm EST . http://www.facebook.com/NativeAwards
My relations Shelley Morningsong and Fabian Fontenelle from Zuni Pueblo, New Mexico will perform from 4pm-5pm EST .
Please check this out if so moved.

Guinness cans

I think that the cartridge has nitrogen in it which gives the stout a creamier feel.

Gerd

We did the Guinness tour some time ago as well. I don’t recall how many different types of beer they brew. I’ve really only seen the traditional and the blonde. Guinness is such a unique beer that I only drink the traditional.

I do recall being disappointed by the tour (and Dublin in general). We should have just taken the elevator straight to the tasting room on top for our complimentary pint.

Re;Santa Fe Downs....

....i wasn't there strider. I was 15 and into metal. But I was in Northern New Mexico around that time visiting extended family with my immediate family. My moms side of the family was from Taos. Three aunts still live there. Didn't have a clue the boyz were playing in the area around that time.

@GratefulGerd

I just checked back in and I think the other members here have answered it. When drinking Guinness from a keg with tap in a pub/bar/ Kneipe the Guiness comes out very smooth. The bartender also deliberately opens the tap/vom Fass slowly and pauses the pouring of the Guiness to make it creamy. Guinness from a bottle tastes like bad wine or vinegar. Guiness Co. created a can with a type of gas cartridge inside to duplicate how creamy Guinness becomes when it comes out of a tap/ vom Fass. Guinness from a can is very good but from a bottle it is very bad. I wish we were hanging out together and I could demonstrate this to you then you would understand.

Stuff

Just catching up on these threads . . . Got dang there is a ton of official Hendrix live stuff out there I didn't know about. Some of us need to keep this economy afloat.

MP51 --- I have been enjoying some John Prine so far. I found a live set from 73 on the Wolfgangs Vault app. He's like Dylan's hillbilly cousin. His song 'Illegal Smile'. . . Wonder if the inspiration for that came from The Other One . . . "Busted me for smiling on a cloudy day." Its obviously about acid, or psychedelics generally.
Re: that list of songwriters. Townes Van Zandt is another guy I've heard about, but haven't really listened to. But all your others are some of my favs.

I'll see that list, and raise you a Warren Zevon.

Y'all got a major beer fetish

Jussayin

Last 5...

Traffic~Mr. Fantasy
The Stooges~The Stooges
Tweak Bird~Tweak Bird
Grateful Dead~ 6-30-74
John Prine~ ??-10-1986 Asheville,N.C.
Kellar Williams & String Cheese Incident~Breathe

get some and hang tough. Be Kind...

Guiness cans - Thanks for explaining

@deadegad
Guten Morgen
I didn't know about a cartridge in a Guiness can. Have to check that out.
Du sprichst deutsch?
Gerd

Gasssss....

The gas cartridge in beer cans is called a widget. This is not to be confused with the digital variety (think apps).

One for the road - double lockdown

They were wondering on the news this morning if alcohol use had gone up during the recent crisis. Can't see any evidence of it myself.

As if things weren't weird enough at the moment, my street has been cordoned off for the last 20 hours due to what the police have told me is a firearm incident. Gets more dangerous out there with every passing day.

Keep on Chooglin' Live Europe

Creedence Clearwater!!! When I was a kid the DJ at WMMS in Cleveland would end his all night shift every Saturday morning playing this song at 550 a.m. Worked on a greens crew so was driving to work at that time.... bob t

Guinness

The Guinness Extra Stout in a bottle is tough for me to drink. I'm not sure if regular Guinness comes in a bottle or not. Regular Guinness flows down nicely, but can be painful the next day. Samuel Smith Organic Chocolate Stout is worth the hangover!!!!!

DSO Marathon Stream All Day

Wanted to share the below; for anyone interested in tuning in to some Dark Star Orchestra streams - they are doing a bunch of free stuff today starting momentarily if you need a Friday dead fix. Wait, what am I talking about...we ALL need our Friday Dead Fix:

https://fans.com/livestream/20200410-dark-star-orchestra/?utm_source=20…

Also have been the Guinness Storehouse & Brewery in Dublin. One of the coolest beer experiences ever. The self guided tour is amazing. And of course the Guinness pints you get at the end up atop the building with great views. I recall good times.

Be Well, Deadfreaks!
Sixtus

Wot widgit??

Major Beer Fetish Friday! Oh yeah.

Indeed, if you live in the States, you have to compromise with the pint cans of Guinness. Strangely, I also love Hamms -- it's weak stuff, but chilled properly (just above freezing) it's a very crisp, clean beer. THEN you switch to the Guinness pint with the wojgit, whippet, nitro thing-y and you feel like you've crossed the pond. Repeat and you're actually IN the pond. (Feel free to run with the nitrous allusion...)

Bein' silly, but I've got a shot of Jameson in my coffee this morning. Will be embarking on 6-15-76 this evening, the last of the five shows for me. So much great music. Very liquid-y. This box really turned my head around about '76, when I caught maybe five shows, if memory serves. For a single show & flow, I'm currently partial to 6-10-76 and may revisit that one after 6-15, perhaps on headphones. Listened on headphones last night for the first time to some recent studio recordings I made and man, you get great separation in the stereo image. So good, I missed the Denver Howl last night....

@GratefulGerd

Ja. Ich kan doch Deutsch! Aber ich habe viele vergessen. Aber es kommt gleich zurück wann ich Deutsch lese und spreche. Ubung macht den Meister!

I lived in Heidelberg for several years a long time ago. I was an exchange student. I actually moved from the southside of Dublin, Ireland to Heidelberg. Although I am from New York, my family emigrated from Ireland and I have family all over that country but my fathers vor verwandte emigrated from Scotland to Ireland after the English Civil War -- a long time ago. Germany is a beautiful country! I love it.

Take care everyone and be well. This storm will pass. The Wake of the Flood: We will get back to normal lives.

Irish Spirits

Hendrix you mentioned both places I visited in Ireland - Jameson Distillery and the Guinness Storehouse (which ironically is located at "St. James Gate". That was a fun trip. I still have a sealed bottle of Redbreast 12 year. One day....

@IceCreamKid

Yes, I believe you are correct, nitro, not CO2... my mistake.

Hope everyone is doing well today! I spun set 1 and most of set 2 of 9/10/83 Santa Fe last evening (I couldn't wait for VGuy's official listening party...) and that China>Rider is so fine! EDIT: And, that Playin>China Doll... sublime!

Happy Friday, DeadLand

Peace

The box has landed in lovely sunny New Brighton.

Schweeeeeeet !. Picked up my box from the local post office yesterday morning....£28.23 in charges to pay but it is what it is. I'm just grateful that Royal Mail (my employer as i'm a postie) handled the delivery here in the U.K. and not those worthless buffoons UPS whom i've had major run-ins with in the past !.

Everything in the box is pristine and the limited edition number is 5303.

Hendrixfreak....check your PM's !.

Credence

Bob T, I love Credence Clearwater Revival, that Bayou Country album in particular - the track Born on the Bayou just works for me as does Bootleg, and who doesn't like Proud Mary? Giving it a spin now after seeing your Keep on Chooglin' reference.

Santa Fe 9/10

One day Dave's picks will drop this one on us its worthy of a release sounds great and it has a decent Esau a song Dave really likes.

Credence C. R. talk and @Deadboss

Funny that there is a all of this CCR talk because I had been watching some Youtube clips of CCR live at Woodstock and elsewhere. What a great band they were! I wish they had some more live (I have only one) releases because the Youtube videos show CCR in excellent form. CCR's cover of I Heard it Through the Grapevine is epic. Something I did not know was that CCR followed The GD at The Woodstock Music Festival and we know The GD were unhappy with a below par performance on their part.

P.S. Oops, almost forgot, good news Deadboss that your 76 box has arrived. Although since you're employed by The Royal Mail you would think you could get an employee discount on the import tax!!!! Just sayin'! Professional courtesy. @#$&^%#g government!

9.10.83 Seamons Matrix....

https://archive.org/details/gd1983-09-10.139379.mtx.seamons.ht112.flac16

CCR at Woodstock.

This came up a while ago but no harm in bringing it up again. Their Woodstock performance finally got an official CD release last year after 50 years. Well worth checking out as it is great.

hey deadboss

Now YOU check yer pm.

Internet Archive

Hello all!

In case you were unaware, Internet Archive (that place all of us Dead Heads cherish so much,) is asking for donations to keep things up and running in these tough times. As a high school teacher, as well as a fan, I have found them to be an absolutely invaluable resource. If you can donate, that would be awesome!

Anyway, in the words of the immortal Jimbo, back to your regularly scheduled Drums>Space.

Peace

CCR

They were my first "big" concert, May 1970 @ MSG. Booker T and the MGs opened! What a great show it was.

John Fogerty has long blamed the Dead for putting everyone to sleep before CCR hit the stage in the middle of the night at Woodstock! Even though these two bands were very friendly, both being from San Fran, John also tells a story of seeing the GD one night, and the boys were so drugged out, that it turned him and CCR off to drugs forever.

Rock on

HahaHAAA!!....

....now you people didn't think I could crank 9.10.83 to 11 without piggybacking 9.11.83.
https://archive.org/details/gd1983-09-11.131805.mtx.remix.dusborne.flac…

Fogerty

I'll just say this: CCR was a great band. Fogerty wrote some great tunes. But I caught Fogerty last year at Red Rocks and he did a 50th Woodstock-y thing for that tour, including his whiny voiced story about the Dead at Woodstock and it disgusted me. Like it's a big shared joke, how lame the Grateful Dead were. Being in the 10th row, I yelled out loud and clear. "Hey, this is a Grateful Dead town. Fuck you!" A lot of people around me cheered and laughed. I don't think Fogerty heard me. I did the exact same thing around 1981 at the tiny Rainbow Music Hall when Dave Mason tried a lame joke about Jerry and I was in the 3rd row. I said loud and clear in a slightly menacing tone: "Hey, this is a Dead crowd." I did not curse him, it was a quiet small theater and starting something with the performer did not seem wise. But Mason visibly winced at my words and moved on. In retrospect, I should have walked to the front of the stage, delivered the one-finger salute, told him off and walked out. Both Fogerty and Mason continue to tour but neither ever achieved the artistic level, audience embrace or financial success of the Grateful Dead.

Fogerty put on a great show and I'm glad I went. But I will not put another dollar in his pockeet. I just don't go for trite put-downs from inferior musicians when it comes to the GD.

Okay, rant over. Only two hours to cold beer and guitaring.

CCR was a great band....

....that lasted what. Five years? Hmm. Maybe they should have tried getting along instead of being dicks to each other and bashing others. Money. Its a gas. Oh well. Down On The Corner.

lyrics for our times

Well I'm about to get upset
From watchin' my TV
Been checkin' out the news
Until my eyeballs fail to see
I mean to say that every day
Is just another rotten mess
And when it's gonna change, my friends
Is anybody's guess
So I'm watchin' and I'm waitin'
Hopin' for the best
Even think I'll go to prayin'
Every time I hear 'em sayin'
That there's no way to delay
That trouble comin' every day
No way to delay
That trouble comin' every day

Fogerty, Allman, Simmons bashing GD

When you are inferior and know it, you criticize the one you are jealous of in order to try and make yourself feel superior.

to some folks in Idaho

"it can't happen here
it can't happen here
I'm telling you my dear
that it caaaan't happen here"

dissing the Dead?

fukum

CCR is awesome
ABB is ok
KISS sucks

but

Grateful Dead

is life

At least we can all agree....

....that the Grateful Fucking Dead are king of the hill. No question. Everyone else is just talking points. That's why we're here, right?
This current climate needs more Jerry, Phil, Bobby, Mickey, Brent, Keith, Bill, Ron, Donna, Vince, Bruce, Tom. Facts man. Facts.

Dead on film

Incredible rocking finale to the first set at Copenhagen 4/17/72. The whole set is good, but the last two songs of the set, Big Railroad Blues and Truckin' blow the roof off. Best savoured on that unofficial dvd that came out a while back. Shame the whole show wasn't filmed.
The armed police have finally drifted away from my front door after keeping guard for 30 hours. Quite pleasant people, as it goes, but it makes me wonder what has been going on out there.

11-3-91

Fogerty sounds good because of the band that is backing him.

Hey Daverock....

....what did your window panes tell you?? Looking out there.? What happened?
Good to know the armed police are polite. Imo, they don't want to be there either. Crazy times.
11.3.91. I don't need to look that date up cone kid, because I recognize it. And yes.
MSM told me last week we would see 3,000 US deaths per day this week. Hmm.

All we r saying

Is give KISS a chance.

Stoltzfus KISS has about 5 total vinil LPs of music that is on par with some of the best hard rock recorded (along the lines of AC-DC, Van Halen, and Aerosmith. Unfortunately that all occurred between 1975 and 1978. But you're right they have sucked since then with the exception of the reunion tour with Ace Frehley in the 90s.

There is currently a cover band called KISS that has two original members in it, two of the greediest most unappreciative bastards you've ever met in your life who would stab their mothers in the back for a nickel, but they can't be confused with the real deal from the 70s. Now those were some good concerts but nothing like the Dead of course. Just good old-fashioned hard rock chords in 3 minute songs. Fun rock.

I forgot to listen to Spring 73

I completely missed out on all of the Spring 1973 anniversary shows. Now I have to cram them in between Europe 72 shows. I just got in the two Dark Stars and the surrounding second set magic from one of the DP 28 shows and Scooby Doo House.

I think I'm on to Recommendations from the Dead next, morbidly titled because Dick Latvala said it was some of the best jamming ev-er. I'm talking about the April 2nd show (or thereabouts) from Boston, Dave's Picks with the two skeletons that look like Keith and Donna laying in the flowers.

Then I have to get the Spectrum show in. This ain't going to be easy.

Oh! Kick in the gut Stoltzie, they had a couple of good records when Ace was in the band.

Never really listened to CCR. Maybe I should. Who's going to try and get the Duane era Allman Brothers in first.

Songs Come Out Of The Air...

...and quite possibly so does everything else. Angels and Devils. Not enough time to get into all that here. However, relative to John Fogerty/CCR and KISS, there appears to be a very fertile window when all those apples are cut from the tree. Maybe a two, three album period where most of the gold comes, then a gentle trailing off. Or an abrupt halt - how many genius songs are out there from "one hit wonders."

Occasionally a band can somehow find their way back (Jefferson Starplane). Or Blue Oyster Cult. But mostly, there's a peak period with every artist both commercially and artistically, then an endless mining of the hits live with slight interjection of "new material" that no one wants to hear.

CCR had a fantastic run - Run Through The Jungle alone is enough to cement a legacy. And whatever anyone thinks about KISS, Gene Simmons' bass lines were very Paul McCartney-esque, melodic and inventful, and those guys were incredible power pop songrwriters in the Cheap Trick vein. And very good rock singers, Paul and Gene, Gene to this day.

For those about to rock, I salute you.

"Rock and roll guitars!!" - April Wine

\m/

Still no box in Sweden

Am I alone in Sweden( or indeed continental Europe) not to have yet received the box?
Tracking stopped 31 march, since when nothing, and the local post office( post nord) doesnt recognise either of the tracking numbers. Of course the Covid can have caused extra delay...

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