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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • Oroborous
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    He Shoots,

    He SCORRRRRRREEEEESSSSSS!
    Dats right ladies and germs, we got us one of those DHB HTs! Boo-yah.
    Well, full disclosure, I’m only into 7/18/90 Terrapin, but unless there’s a power outage or something beyond our control, it’s happening! Lol
    So hit the one two solar plex punch of 12/9&10/71 between rounds of shoveling. First day shoveling, winter came with a vengeance. Shoveled twice in one day, going to bed early tonight lol.

    Yes 12/9 is short but it’s like their making up for being late with a sense of purpose and urgency that is sustained until the out of time end! Phew! Smoking!
    Now 12/10 is a fine show, don’t get me wrong, but I’ve yet to feel the lightning that y’all do? Meaning, 71 is such a consistent freight train year that has only built up to these December shows, that 12/10 doesn’t stand out so much. That’s more a statement to how consistent and good most of these shows are more than anything singularly with 12/10, imho anyway. Meaning it’s yet another 71 hottie!
    I’ll tell ya what, everyday I dig these awesome first set Black Pedro’s more and more! And these still forming Comes a Time etc. Yep Doc, ya did a good job recruiting lol.
    I’m really looking forward to 12/15 and 12/31 as I’ve not heard those.

    Yeah BC I hadn’t heard those 79s before (kinda my mo lately) but they looked kinda interesting and first Tiger show etc, so why the hell not eh!
    Glad folks been digging the 79 and 80 shows. DVs right, WTF David, 79-81!
    Pretty sure ole Hendrix freak was at the RR and Denver 79 shows, but I don’t think he hangs here? I’m sure he’d have some stories! Gonna get the 14th in soon too.
    I’m confused, I have 8/19/80 on the list, and that’s what deadbase has for the first Rooster since 65 and that China-Ruder etc. guessing you just mixed em as you said 8/20, OR was that a Vulcan mind trick to get us to check out the whole run ; ) But yep, that’s on the list and we’ll slip that in soon.

    Fall 74: another field that needs reaping! I’ve never heard most of these so going to try and fit those in going forward.
    Going to try that usbourne matrix out mañana, prolly along with 7/19/90 to scratch that itch.
    Of course Jimbo, you evil temptress has to mention Nightfall, one of my all time favorite official releases that doesn’t seem to get the love on deadnet?
    Don’t think I knew there was bloobtoob, though it makes sense. Dammit, I don’t have time for that lol.
    Well if a Dave ever releases the damn fall 89 multis, I’ll prolly try to hit the whole tour again only maybe I’ll go all toob?
    What’d I miss?
    Oh yeah, The Wolf. Yeah BC I’ve got a double CD of Moanin’ in the Moonlight and Howlin’ Wolf that I came to via tge dead of course, that I used to play the hell out of. Been a long time, guess I’m due!

    Awright, digging the 60’ Bullfrog Garcia’s laying down in this 7/18/90 space. Good sheet Mon!
    Ok, time for a smoke and a pancake!
    Onward Amigos!
    This space has been nice of late!

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    Streaming Nightfall of Diamonds on BlewTube. Great audio, great video. Technology is grand.

    Tomorrow.. back to the program.

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    You are right Oroborous, really digging this one. How about the Shakedown opener? My god, can't imagine being in the crowd for that start. Sound quality is really good so far.
    I will continue to beat the drum for Dave to release some more 79-81. It is time. Shock us.

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    yeah - get a move on you slackers!! (glances at mirror)

    Yep I very def like that Usbourne for 9/14/74. while I only stumbled upon it earlier this year in that searching mode inspired by POTD, I think that show sure seems to have been overlooked given the Alexander Palace and Dijon/Paris shows on either side. Some very-solid-played '74 - very much, always, welcome. the audience tape brings some nice you-are-there-in-the-hall flavor that I, who likes to time travel every so often, enjoys.

    those Summer '79 shows from Oakland are new to me & look fat. I saw that Shakedown 1st night and then that Olin Arageed(!!) night 2 and "both on the damn list!!"

    After I realized I was able to conflate several Porchester '71 shows I went back to 2/18 (from Mama Tried on - those early versions always send me, that, and Bobby McGee.) I can't even "imagine" what might have happened being there (Strider?), dialed in, "all bright-eyed-and-bushy-tailed," in the presence of that Dark Star > (the first ever) Wharf Rat(!!)> (DS) Beautiful Jam > Dark Star > Me and My Uncle. and 2/19. yep, totally rocking, not the night before, but still straight "short break, short break" delivering.

    Smokestack - have an old somewhat obscure early Howling Wolf Chess double LP that was just to the brim with absolutely amazing music. one of those two-fers that had a huge influence on my listening in those days. might have to hook up the turntable (an old Techinics that has lost its laser calibration - need a new rig.) Not only does Pig bring real justice to Smokestack, but so does Bob. I think Bob brought a lot to his blues covers that strikes me as right there. Remember first hearing an audience of Riverbend '85 (30 Trips!) and (having been at Alpine immediately before that) thinking goddamn! bring it! for me just one of many cool parts of Eugene 8/21/93 was Schoolgirl into Smokestack. (Aside - Standing on the Moon from that show is all time greatest.) Yeah School Girl > Smokestack kicked ass. So yeah I think Bob bitd sang a great Little Red Rooster. And back to my list - 8/20/80, Uptown. Theatre, Chicago. Bob, beginning Set II, breaks out the first Rooster, yep, in Chicago, home to Chess records and all that, nails it, and the band immediately segues into a classic from-the-era China > Rider. my original source was an audience, I think balcony tape(?). crowd goes crazy. estimated > eyes. out of drums into playing > comes a time > playing. there is no good soundboard circulating right now. if in the vault it should def be released.

    found myself with an unexpected somewhat free Friday. rain here and snow in the mountains last night! enjoy the weekend and stay safe friends. onward!!

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    Okay, 79, 90 and 74. Did somebody say Desolation Row? I am in.

    You guys are keeping us busy.

    I think we should get the Dave's 42 announcement within the next two weeks. Maybe next week.

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    Maybe we should add this one this WE?
    Bluecrow suggested a usborne matrix that he really liked?
    Another I’ve not heard so I think I might slide this one in this WE?

    So;
    8/12/79
    12/9&10/71
    Daves 40, and
    9/14/74
    Hup, hup, better get to it

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    Funny.. that one caught my attention too. I love Jerry's tone on this run also. And the Dark Hallow. So good.

    ..but the 2/19 Smokestack is flawless. Probably my favorite version. I don't take notes when I listen, I'm just not that disciplined and usually listen while doing something which makes me a terrible critic. I do like what I like though.

    As you were.. back to your previously scheduled Lazy Lightnin'>Supplication>Deal.

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    Yeah I’m about in need of some palate cleanse so was just thinking I need to get to 40 again, hopefully this WE.
    Lol, ok DV, we just piled on more for ya!

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    I think some folks are playing ketchup, and I think we did it back aways, so check it out, good show, extra credit!

    Not needing to work, and being a snow day I’m starting with 12/9/71 to keep up on the Doc train.
    Might go to 12/10 later, with potential for the ole DHB today!

    Man these 71 shows SOUND good! I mean there good shows, but sonically I really like these Louie 71s!

    CHESTER 71, yep, good sheet mon. It’s funny I didn’t dig Vault III (2/19/ much when it came out, but along the way, especially after Docs been schooling us, I think this one is my fav of the run and in the top picks for the year. Now, 2/21 and 2/18 are right there, but something about 2/19, with that Smokestack giving it the edge! IMHO of course.

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    I don't think so..

    No, just pushing fall '74 back a day.

    I'm gonna sneak in a reboot of Dave's Picks 40. I am in the mood for a high volume rocker and I think that one fits that bill.

    It's gonna be a good holiday season, I can tell..

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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In process and it has been a while. Sound quality from my perspective is somewhat lacking. Love the Dupree's, It's all over now, good Passenger, Brown Eyed Women. Just finished Eyes, really good. Again, wish the sound quality was better.

Thanks Bolo and Mary!

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Disc one is fun (it's a mix of several shows, me remembers...CR&S is always welcome)
Disc two is sublime. Eyes, Playin' > Wheel > Playin'. I do notice some sound quality issues at times, but they are not horrific and permanent. I remember the Playin' is good as always, and then gets reeeeeeally good
Disc three is phenomenal. As I listened recently, I remember smiling at the glory of the show. Scarlet > Fire, Truckin' > The Other One > Wharf > Around

the Madison show took place about 50 miles north of where l lived at the time. but since I was in 8th grade, I had no clue or awareness of that fact.

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One of my favorites Scarlet>Fire's of all time.... Also love the Samson when after a prolong opening jam Weir does the woohoo type of shout out!! I've posted about the Scarlet>Fire before but there is a Jerry Keith chord interaction after the singing in Scarlet that for me is mind melting!!! Good first choice Bolo... One last ramble, for me this show 2/5/78 is in my mind is the last show of 77... The April tour after this has a different vibe..

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....listened to the first disc last night. Cold Rain, All Over Now, Duprees and BE Woman all top shelf renditions. Man. Iowa got all the good shows. Will start up disc two a little later.
Thats the show with the extended Samson due to Bob's mic difficulties, correct?

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A few momentous stand outs for me: The Music Never Stopped; this version easily made it onto a "best of" compilation early on and has never been supplanted. Fight me. Also, the Estimated > Eyes of so so good. Beautiful elongated Eyes intro, then just mad jamming all the way through, nice upbeat Eyes tempo. Great exploratory Estimated as well. I love the drop into Eyes here; expertly pulled off. The Scarlet > Fire is very awesome too. Long, jammy. Nothing new here, just adding my love.

Nice idea.
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The first thing I noticed is that it features two nights, but unless I am looking in the wrong place, there is no indication which nights which songs are from. I could have checked in Deadbase...but that's upstairs and as I was settled down to listen I didn't bother. It looks like one first and two second sets.

I have just played the first cd so far. Coming from Europe 72, this sounds a lot simpler rhythmically. During Spring 72, you can focus on Bill, Phil, Bob, or Keith - as well as Jerry obviously-and they are all playing with energy and imagination. Here, the focus is more just on Jerry. I like his fiery guitar sound on here, but I am not as keen on Bob's sound. Donna, on the other hand, sounds nice on Looks Like Rain. I prefer this version of Good Lovin to the ones played in 72. It sounds almost calypso-a real celebratory sound.
The cd picks up pace nicely on the last three songs, with great guitar solos from Jerry. It seems a bit more like standard "rock" in a way, compared to the swing they had with one drummer and a fully functioning Keith. I enjoyed listening to it, but I will probably leave the first of the set 2s for tomorrow.

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Not much left to say LLR crackled like a thundercloud!

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....Jerry fresh off his laryngitis. The crackling in his voice during Wharf Rat proves it. His voice was never the same, but still rocks my soul.
Trey Pistachio dropped another song. "Are You There Colleen?". With a message of getting off drugs. Methinks Colleen was his dealer back in the day. Might be wrong. Never right.
I had a dealer back in the day. Name was Chill. Called him from payphones. That was a long time ago though. Thank God.

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At the start of 1978 I'd sort of lost interest in the Dead, having last seen them in 74. 78 was my fifth year in college (yeah I know) and I was way more into jazz than rock in large part due to an awesome jazz club on campus, the Backdoor. The place just had a constant stream of major talent coming through. McCoy Tyner, Charlie Mingus, Elvin Jones, Roland Kirk etc. So in early January I see the Dead are gonna be at Golden Hall so my girlfriend and I say "What the hell?" and I get tickets for 1/07. Now in 78 the Dead were not that big of a draw and I wasn't expecting much, sort of a nostalgia trip. Wrong. They were great, just awesome. So after the show we immediately get tickets for 1/08. These were the Bobby songs only nights but that didn't matter a bit. My girlfriend (now my wife) cried during Looks Like Rain. We were back on the bus until 85 when the arrival of our first kid changed everything. Footnote to that is our last show was a week before his birth and she was major prego and treated like royalty by all you wonderful heads. So I love DP 18 and I especially like the Eugene show release. Stay home.

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Nice! I'm overdue for a listen.

RE: DP18, agree with Jim - Brown-Eyed Women is PERFECT! For that matter, so is TMNS - powerful! And then there's disc 3. If I had to rescue only one single disc from my burning house, this one would be in the running. That Scarlet/Fire is a half-hour blissfest, Truckin' is solid, TOO is insanely good. Masterful music!

On to Wichita!

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....has metal influences. Garcia tapping into his inner Iommi. My ear told me so.
Wichita this soon into the game? Bold move Cotton. Let's see how it pans out.

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Love the Dodge Ball reference!!

funny how they didn't list out what shows the songs are from. even funnier, the songs in Disc 1 are actually from 3 shows - Its All Over Now and Duprees are from 2/4/78 Milwaukee! The Wikipedia entry for DP 18 lays it out if you're interested. Deadbase IX also lists a soundcheck of Ripple x3 in Milwaukee - what the heck is that??!!

As others have noted, among many highlights a great Music Never Stopped and Eyes of the World from 2/3 - love the super long intro to Eyes, it reminds me of a post-hiatus favorite, 6/8/77. They Love Each Other is fantastic. The 2nd set from 2/5 is just wild. Such a raw sound to the Wolf! Would love to see released the Uptown shows that immediately proceed this. Worth noting how rare The Wheel was at this time - 2/3 was first time played since mid fall '77, another year until played again on 2/17/79 (Keith & Donna's last show), and then another year and a half before it finally re-entered regular rotation.

A couple technical notes - based on Dick's Caveat Emptor, 2/3 appears to have been recorded at a slower tape speed (7.5 ips vs. 15), and so the sound quality is a bit rougher. Also, IIRC, there is an unpatched gap (sad face) in the jam between verses 2 and 3 in Eyes of the World. There's a very nice audience of 2/3 on the Archive if anyone wants to hear that.

Now on to Wichita!!

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After listening to almost 4 hours of insanely wonderful music, the overriding conclusion is that, in my opinion, NO ONE can play guitar like Garcia did. At times subtle and nuanced, at other times raging, but always just exactly perfect within the context of the song they were playing. Remarkable, really. Feeling blessed to have experienced GD/JGB live so many times.

Garcia may not be the "best" guitarist (highly subjective, as most of those inane "best of" polls demonstrate), but he is the only guitarist I can listen to every day. That includes Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Gilmore and whoever else you want to throw in there.

It's grate to be a Deadhead!!

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You're a harsh taskmaster! Listening to Grateful Dead concerts will continue until morale improves.

Bluecrow - thanks for the tip. There were a couple of compilations that came out in the 1990s that featured songs from multiple shows, but didn't indicate in the sleeve notes which song came from which show. Ladies and Gentlemen from April 1971 and Dozin' at the Knick from Spring 1990 were two others.

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Agree 100% with your comments on Jerry, what a genius! The whole band was.

Just finishing up Dave's 11 now. Comments to follow.

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Dooo, just listened to that last week, for first time, so maybe we’ll sneak another round in after this 71 grease fest we’ve got going on today .....fall 72 is def fo shizzle....

EDIt: MHAMMOND12...whoa. I’m not sure what’s more impressive, seeing the laryngitis shows or all that top shelf jazz in a club setting???

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Dicks picks vol 21 , not the main show the extras , Iko iko > morning dew > sugar magnolia . Absolutely sublime , and without doubt one of the best dew’s 😸

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I shouldn't really call the Backdoor a club. It was an empty room on the ground floor of the Student Union and Performing Arts building on campus that the A.S. booking people converted into a small concert venue. Just a stage and corked walls. No seats. No refreshments. Bring your own. The talent that appeared there was unbelievable looking back. Freddie King. John Lee Hooker. Two memories...sitting under McCoy Tyner and watching his right sock working its way down past his ankle has he stomped his foot keeping constant time...Roland Kirk playing the flute with his nose, playing three saxophones at once, playing the piano with his elbows and head, and careening around the room playing saxophone being led by his handler (Rahsaan was blind you know) who had an air raid siren he would blow off in your face if you didn't get out of the way fast enough. And none of this seemed like a gimmick. Bright moments indeed.

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This show and bonus tracks from Oklahoma City is definitely top stuff. Sound quality is A+. A great Bear recording! Man, he did great work.
The whole show flows nicely, although not a long second set. Love the Sugaree, Bird Song is awesome, Jack Straw, Box of Rain! Come on. Casey Jones to close the first set and than open with Cumberland. Great Truckin Other One, very unique Other One. Always loved Brokedown Palace and this one they play flawlessly.

I will throw out 12/28/79 Road Trips 3.1??

Let me know Gents.

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I like the post-space UJB and Bertha on that one a lot mainly for Brent's harmonies. Overall a classic pick with a lot to like. I might give DP5 (12/26/79) the edge however. That pick is hefty.

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Listened to both Dave Picks 11, 11/17/72, and Europe 72, 04/07/72, as assigned by Bolo. Dave's Picks 11 is one of my favorite releases. Great recording by Owsley improved by the treatment of Mr. Norman. Has an incredible Bird Song. Just a wonderful release.

Europe 72, 04/07/72 Wembley just blows it away. Leaves a smoking crater where Wichita used to be. Europe 72 can not be bettered.

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This one has a nice slow relaxed build up with some ripping Jerry. TOO than blows the roof off! The only TOO>Brokedown Palace. End of set 2 all great. A perfect prelude to the next to nights.

ps. 4/7 Rips the paint off the walls from the first note. No contest.

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Okay Bolo, what are your thoughts?
Next show for today?

I suggested 12/28/79. RT3.1

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I’m down, right after my John Prine compilation

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I relocated last week and since that time I have been unpacking as much as I can and maintaining my workload from home. So I have been out of commission here for a while. I came across this pick of the day and I am all for it.

Just to throw a show out there ( not for today) but how about 9/8/73? I have never heard it but Dick Latvala spoke highly of it. It might be nice to give it a listen.

Meanwhile it looks RT 3.1 will it be for today. Maybe I will add 4/8/72 as well.

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Nice - been a while since that one hit my headphones.

MHammond gets a gold star. But what did you listen to AFTER lunch?

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I was at this show, it was a blast! Sugaree, High Time, The Music Never Stopped, this show was great from start to finish. This show sounds so much better then Dave's Picks 31 from just a .sound point of view. Yeah, this show was a hell of a lot of fun!

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Sugaree lovely, the rest of the set is okay Music rocks! Set 2 Alabama grooving, GSET explosive!, Terrapin super sweet jam, PITB end jam is sick!, UJB outta drums/space yes!, short Miracle, Bertha>Good Love, CJ , OMSN rockin!

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....on it. (I'm the tour buddy still in the car doing bong rips as y'all are heading to the gate.)

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1983/09/10
Santa Fe Downs. Give me this. But for Friday. I'm working tomorrow, but off Friday.
I've stood at Santa Fe Downs and looked east. The view is spectacular.
Whats all the hubbub, bub?
It's got a Music opener and a Cold Rain encore. Warts and all.
Things are strange outside. Bird Songs all day.
edit. Found something!!
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/grateful-dead-jerry-garcia-favourite-song/
Spoiler alert. Row Jimmy. Also a favorite of Bill The Drummer. It was playing as I read it (12.28.79. Disc one. Track four).
I still don't believe in coincidences.

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DaP11: Last half of disc two - the whole He’s Gone thru BDP is incredible

Just starting RT3.1 now , if the first song is any indication of this night, I’m in for something special!

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Hendrix Freak threw this one out a couple days ago but yall were onto something else.....it got me thinking about some primal dead, and haven’t had a good 68 fix for a bit....So Wadaya say Laddys?

MHammond: RT 3.1, nice pick. Started to go through the 79 stuff when DaP 31 came out but didn’t make it, rember liking this one more than 31, and yesterday confirmed that. Really need to get to DP 5 from 12/26, it’s been so long for that one. Maybe this weekend I’ll roll that?

VGUY: I’m down with some Santa Fe tomorrow. Heard about this one for years but don’t think I’ve ever checked it out. Plus 83 would be a nice change up here....

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12/28/79! Is this the best RT release? Maybe, certainly the best 79 release from the Vault so far. Betty did another excellent job here.
I like this release more and more every time I listen to it. Sound quality is A+.Sugaree opener! Different feel to this show without Keith and Donna, but I dig it. Brent's keyboards really shine. Really good flowing Terrapin, Playing, UJB. The show closers are fun and groovy. Makes me want to get up and dance.
And then there is the bonus disc, from 12/30/79. 10 additional songs of bliss. Scarlet Fire, Let it Grow, Truckin! Sweet.

Would love to see more 79 and of course 80. The early Brent years! I know the Chicago release didn't match this release but 79 has a lot to offer.
Yesterday I also listened to 9/1/79. Not an official release, but again great 79 sound.
If you have not heard it, check it out.

Looking forward to our next pick. Let us know!

I can't take credit for that pick. I'm trying the Europe 72 night by night thing and I'm already behind.

Playing now.
Is that today’s pick?

First got this on cassette in mid-90’s and loved it right away. Then got a CD-R copy. Was really happy to get it as a commercially released CD.

This show needs a Plangentized/Normanized remaster 180g vinyl record store day release.

Edit:
Looks like I’m a day behind. No worries, I’ll catch up.

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Good to have you kid.

Bolo, what are your thoughts on the last pick. Sounds like the crowd is feeling Dick's 22 for today/ tonight. I will have to sit this one out as I don't have this one. Looking forward to tomorrow's choice.
Be well folks!
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