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    During the mid-1970s, the Grateful Dead saga was unfolding like a Greek classic. The Sisyphean Wall Of Sound had nearly broken the band. From it spawned a Medusa head of countless side projects, all deliciously fruitful but woefully not the same as the whole. The chorus lay in wait, pondering the reemergence of their heroes, and wondering if "THE LAST ONE" had really been it...

    But in early 1976, Apollonian light and healing would shine upon our intrepid wanderers once again. No more epic battles for the people with cops and lines and tightness, the Dead would return triumphant in smallness, playing intimate theaters and renting equipment along the way. No more ticket scams and greedy promoters, they'd give back with first ever mail-order ticket program, one that had a few kinks to work out but eventually served the fans well.

    Musically, June 1976 signaled a Golden Age of harmony and prosperity for the Dead. It marked an Odysseusian-like return for Mickey Hart. Donna Jean was in lock-step with the sirens' call. Jerry and Bob delivered orphic delight with solo musings like "Mission In The Rain" (the only tour they ever played it on), "The Wheel," and "Cassidy," emboldened by group effort. There was fresh repertoire from Blues For Allah, breathing new life to the Dead's continually morphing sound - as Weir once said of the '76 tour, they wanted to play "a little bit of all of it." Old favorites were re-envisioned with cascading tempos and unique sequencing, making the crowd question if they'd ever heard these songs before. And there was comfort and joy in the familiarity of watching the band make it up as they went along. By all means, it was clear that the bacchanalia of live Dead would reign on.

    And now the revelry from this epoch, evidenced by the near-studio quality sound captured on two-track live recordings by Betty Cantor-Jackson, lives on, bolstered by Jeffrey Norman's HDCD mastering. It's housed for posterity in a handsome box featuring original art work by Justin Helton. It’s documented in liners by Jesse Jarnow and photos by Grant Gouldon. And it’s ready for a spot on your shelf. 

    As part of our pre-order for this Dead.net exclusive boxed set, we'll be delivering downloads of each listening party - one for each show included in JUNE 1976 - to purchasers from now until the March 20th release. Order at any time before release and you'll receive all the listening parties to date.

    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 12,000

    What's Inside:

    • 5 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 15 Discs
    • Boston Music Hall, Boston, MA 6/10/76
    • Boston Music Hall, Boston, MA 6/11/76
    • Beacon Theatre, New York, NY 6/14/76
    • Beacon Theatre, New York, NY 6/15/76
    • Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ 6/19/76
    • Sourced from Two-Track Master Tapes, Recorded By Betty Cantor-Jackson
    • Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    • Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

     

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  • Angry Jack Straw
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    With all of this free time on hand, I’m going to do something others have done. Europe 72 on the anniversary dates. Someone else mentioned that it took them 2 1/2 years to get through the first listen. It took me a year and a half. Now I have time.

    Hard to believe that it’s coming up on 25 years since Garcia passed. I’m a bit surprised that not more has been made of it. A special release perhaps?

    71 is the deal. Doc was on top of this long ago. Flat out rock and roll. A Capitol release would be very welcome.

    As for the person who asked why many of us shun the later years.

    Easy Answers
    Eternity
    Samba in the Rain

    And many, many others. Not banging. Just providing clarity.

    A little bit too much Vince Gilligan in tonight’s episode of BCS.

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    I'd like to go on wreck-erd...

    as saying, with all due respects to everyone and all, I'd go for a 30-disc box of spring '71 in a heartbeat, even if it destroyed the business model and it was the last thing I every heard.

    Love, HF

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    8/30/70 - Easy Wind

    Great version of Easy Wind! It would be nice if this whole video of Calibration could be cleaned up and released. The Dead at their best.

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    Charlie3, the ones that come to mind - my fav from the Closing of Winterland bonus disc. I don't even want to tell you what I traded to get this CD into my collection back in my completist days, when my credit card had no balance :D

    Anyway that has one from I think New Year's Eve 1970 into '71. Or was it 71 in the 72... I get the years confused on that disc because they're all New Year's shows. Dave's Picks Thelma, DP 16, Fillmore East Road Trips 3.3 all have Easy Wind. Hmmm could that be it?

    I wonder why they didn't play this one more. I would have traded it for a couple of the shorter tracks he did on the Europe 72 tour. Next time you see me & Hurts Me Too.

    Hi Doc, good to hear you weigh in on 1971 - any discussion on that subject matter without your input seems kind of in vain. Vein. Veign. Vaughn. Stevie Ray Vaughn. WHO IS Stevie Ray Vaughn. That's my final answer.

    I would be less interested in Port Chester and Fillmore East Spring 71 if they had not been recorded on multitrack. It's that tease for pristine sound that really elevates them on my list. If I think about it, the 30 Trips show from 3/18/71 is IMHO the best sounding two track from 1971 pre-Keith (of the official releases). Come to think of it, I wonder if any 1971 Pre-Keith shows came back with that acquisition of tapes from the lost storage locker. Hmmmm. Chin scratcher.

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    Yo, rockers!!!!

    I must admit that I'm both amused and amazed at all the 1971 chatter flying back and forth. Seems like old times....

    First and foremost, my prediction----there will never be a single complete April 1971 box set. It's not because it isn't good, great, classic, and occasionally sublime. It is, and so much more. But for most, it's too big and unwieldy. People bought 30 Trips because there was variety. The E72 box had all that amazing jamming. Selling a box with 20 shows that on first glance (and I emphasize, "first glance") are very similar is a much tougher nut to crack.

    Generally, the "detractions" about this period fall into two camps:
    1) "The repertoire". Yes, there is a lot of repetition. Some new stuff, Bobby cowboy tunes, Pigpen's grease---but hey, if you don't care for that, then April 1971 is definitely NOT the month for you. And as some have pointed out, "big jams" are generally lacking. That can't be denied. The big jams vehicles that month were The Other One and Good Lovin'. Hey, works for me, but not for everybody.
    2) "The style". Since I'm a rocker, I'm drawn to the style of this era and revel in it. Pared down, lean, mean, Bakersfield blasts of hard edged rock and roll. Not all of it is sledgehammer material, but some is, which means it's very powerful. But others like their Dead smoother, creamier, jammier. I get that.

    Then there's the issue of the Fillmore shows. Since portions were released already, that makes their inclusion in a big box a little redundant. And there's all those guests, and the legalities, and the hassles, and the lawyers. But I'd love to see 4/25 as a solo release----that Hard To Handle is as crunchy as a Jake Lamotta right hook.

    Make no mistake----while every April 71 show has something to recommend it, not every show that month was a gem. I won't name names, folks know who I mean. Personally, I think an April 71 mega box would sell poorly, which is something that TPTB dwell on over fine cigars and cognac. But I think a pared down box, excluding the Fillmores, would sell very well. Maybe 5 or 6 shows, my preferences would be 4/6, 8, 12, 14, 18, 21.

    Actually, I'd much prefer a Port Chester or Fall "FM shows" box (IF it include 11/7, 10/29, and 12/5!)

    Guess that's all for now, time to go read some cosmology and strum the guitar....

    Rock on,

    Doc
    P.S. Anybody who needs/wants any 71s, Aprils or otherwise, you know where to find me...……….

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    All of this talk of '71 made me think of the awesome 2/19/71 Port Chester show released as 3FTV. That show has one of the best versions of GSET ever, a version that like some others from '71 has that great loping feel to it. I also realized that 3FTV has a great Easy Wind, another song I dig and a premium Pig vehicle. Which made me wonder, which other, if any, official releases have an Easy Wind? Haven't had a chance to look thoroughly, but can't think of any others off the top of my head. Nice summary on some of the appeal of '71 Keithfan2112, not really much else to add beyond what you already pointed out.

    Last 5 - more 1967
    Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed
    Grateful Dead - 11/10/67 from 30 Trips. Yeah, I have underestimated this show, it smokes. Can I amend my top shows from the 30 Trips box answer?
    Cream - Disraeli Gears
    The Doors - The Doors
    Chambers Brothers - Time Has Come

    Edit: DP 16, DaP 10, and DaP 30 all have Easy Wind.

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    Oh yes, so would I !

  • KeithFan2112
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    You're probably right. It's probably one of those deals like Winterland October 74. Once you actually list out what didn't make the movie soundtrack, you're not missing that much. But I would take any of these over a nineties box set for example.

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    Its a great release, no question, but I am not sure I would prioritise a release of the whole run as a box set. Those 2 second set jams mentioned from 4/28 and 4/29 are incredible, though. Its years since I listened to tapes of the whole shows from those two dates, but I seem to remember the first two sets were quite similar, in feel if not actual song selection.
    I feel the same way about Portchester February 71-very popular on here, and frequently suggested as the source for a future box - but it wouldn't be my choice.

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    What I like about it:

    * From Feb - April '71 they introduced one metric fuckton of new songs. And if they didn't introduce them, they began peaking on stuff from Workingman's Dead and American Beauty. If I look at the track list for Ladies and Gentlemen and Three From the Vault, I would guess 65 to 75% of the songs are not on official release prior to these. And prior to that, Skull & Roses came out as an official release in that actual era, so people were getting some of these tracks for the first time. I can't find a better released Morning Dew prior to the one on Ladies & Gentlemen for example, or Midnight Hour to name a couple. I guess add King Bee. New Minglewood Blues. Only Ripple. Second That Emotion. Dark Hollow.

    Truckin' and Bertha tightened up by Autumn '71, and Bird Song went into hyperspace after they gave it a rest between the summer of 71 and the summer of 72. Those are really the only songs I can think of that may have gotten a little bit better on a more consistent basis. I'm not saying there aren't any great Truckin's in Spring of 71, just saying it got even better later. China Cat IMHO gained an immediate infusion of energy; the two drummer versions that came prior always seemed a bit crowded to me.

    * One drummer. I think they really began to swing a bit more wiith just Billy back there. Take a listen to St. Stephen from Ladies and Gentlemen - the last-minute is pure rock and roll. Hard to Handle peaked big time and continued into the summer with those great August versions, where one drummer allowed for some intense improvisational instrumental solo sections - I'm talking about the little 2 to 3 minute jams within some of the shorter songs, when they chose to rock out. Greatest Story Ever Told is another. It rocked out extra hard and Spring 71, prior to Jerry picking up the Wah wah on it.

    * Agree, they definitely took a step back in the duration of a lot of the Dark Stars and they played it frighteningly few times compared to 72 and 73 and 69 and 70 before it. But that being said, the times they did play it were some of the best 12 to 15 minutes of Dark Star you'll hear with acouple of 20s. No cacophony, no meltdowns, no atonal space drift. Just pure Dark Star melodies and Garcia noodling. February 18th was awesome, all 3 in April were awesome. You will find beautiful Jam on Feb 18th, which is one of a kind, as well as the Jam on Ladies and Gentlemen which may as well be in the middle of a Dark Star.

    * Pigpen peaked on the organ. It's funny you mention it actually. House listing in the Cold Rain and Snow from Ladies and Gentlemen this morning, thinking how accomplished Pigpen had become by then. By then he was still playing sparsely, which is good because it didn't overwhelm the soundscape, but he also wasn't limiting himself to chords and basic melodies; he was actually improvising a bit in between. You can really hear him on the 30 Trips show from March.

    * Sound quality - the Port Chester and Fillmore East runs are all multi-track sourced.

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During the mid-1970s, the Grateful Dead saga was unfolding like a Greek classic. The Sisyphean Wall Of Sound had nearly broken the band. From it spawned a Medusa head of countless side projects, all deliciously fruitful but woefully not the same as the whole. The chorus lay in wait, pondering the reemergence of their heroes, and wondering if "THE LAST ONE" had really been it...

But in early 1976, Apollonian light and healing would shine upon our intrepid wanderers once again. No more epic battles for the people with cops and lines and tightness, the Dead would return triumphant in smallness, playing intimate theaters and renting equipment along the way. No more ticket scams and greedy promoters, they'd give back with first ever mail-order ticket program, one that had a few kinks to work out but eventually served the fans well.

Musically, June 1976 signaled a Golden Age of harmony and prosperity for the Dead. It marked an Odysseusian-like return for Mickey Hart. Donna Jean was in lock-step with the sirens' call. Jerry and Bob delivered orphic delight with solo musings like "Mission In The Rain" (the only tour they ever played it on), "The Wheel," and "Cassidy," emboldened by group effort. There was fresh repertoire from Blues For Allah, breathing new life to the Dead's continually morphing sound - as Weir once said of the '76 tour, they wanted to play "a little bit of all of it." Old favorites were re-envisioned with cascading tempos and unique sequencing, making the crowd question if they'd ever heard these songs before. And there was comfort and joy in the familiarity of watching the band make it up as they went along. By all means, it was clear that the bacchanalia of live Dead would reign on.

And now the revelry from this epoch, evidenced by the near-studio quality sound captured on two-track live recordings by Betty Cantor-Jackson, lives on, bolstered by Jeffrey Norman's HDCD mastering. It's housed for posterity in a handsome box featuring original art work by Justin Helton. It’s documented in liners by Jesse Jarnow and photos by Grant Gouldon. And it’s ready for a spot on your shelf. 

As part of our pre-order for this Dead.net exclusive boxed set, we'll be delivering downloads of each listening party - one for each show included in JUNE 1976 - to purchasers from now until the March 20th release. Order at any time before release and you'll receive all the listening parties to date.

Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 12,000

What's Inside:

  • 5 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 15 Discs
  • Boston Music Hall, Boston, MA 6/10/76
  • Boston Music Hall, Boston, MA 6/11/76
  • Beacon Theatre, New York, NY 6/14/76
  • Beacon Theatre, New York, NY 6/15/76
  • Capitol Theatre, Passaic, NJ 6/19/76
  • Sourced from Two-Track Master Tapes, Recorded By Betty Cantor-Jackson
  • Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
  • Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes

 

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....that show is nail-biting, edge of your seat nuts. And I love it. Just finished the first season. Sounds like it gets better from what i'm reading here. nO SPoiLErs!!

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"Great snakes" is from 4/22/71!!!

Another show from Acid Month!

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"We're going to start this next set off with one of your favorites, and we certainly hope its one of ours."

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I'm about half through the current season (5) and it is as good as the past seasons. On a GD note, I have be relistening to Jerry Garcia Band from Winter- Spring 1980. The After Midnight>Eleanor Rigby>After Midnight is as good as it gets. I think I like the early March 1980 from The Stone versions better than the official release from Keane College. The Oswego 2/17/80 show is excellent and I just love The Positively 4th Street.

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... but you forgot to claim your prize by going with one of your own. Slow Dog stepped in and claimed it for you though!

And the answer to that one would be none other than Bobby introducing Truckin at the Academy of Music on 3/21/72!

That makes it my turn again:

"Hey hey y'all up on the balcony, the management has requested that you kindly don't hang off there"

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6-27-85 SPAC?

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....that was my guess. Dammit!!

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"This whole this is a fraud. We're really clever androids."

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Keith...its what we listened to in the 70s. I still think Anthem is amazing - one of the definitive albums of its era. It still sounds great to me. The original mix is the one-but the remixed one is worth hearing too.

The other one that stands out for me is Blues For Allah, with honourable mentions for the first and Aoxomoxoa-the original mix. The remixed version of that one always sounded very flat to me.

And American Beauty, too, of course. Beautiful album - although I haven't played it for a year or two.

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Phil, Watkins Glen, 1973-07-27 just before Birdsong.

Do I get a prize?

Edit: Crap, cone kid beat me to the punch.. "Missed it by that much."

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But you didnt claim your prize .... Sixtus did though!

Edit: missed it by that much more!

Icecream gets it. I'm going with 8-6-74 for that one Icecream but I am not totally sure so I am not going to claim the prize.

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Deadvikes - you're were right on my quote but I retracted it because after I posted I saw that Icecream got it before I did. It's free for all fun though so 35 points to you too!

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A couple of people asked about my "great piano controversy of Europe '72" comment. Keith is low or inaudible on most of the shows in the box set. I noticed it as I began picking up these shows back in 2014 one at a time. To be clear, he's just fine in the mix on the previously released E72 material on Steppin' Out with the Grateful Dead and Rockin' The Rhein. Hundred Year Hall not so much.

But let's forego subjectivity and go with empirical observation, as this is the cornerstone of the scientific method.
The best way to "show" you what you're not hearing on a large part of the E72 box set is to have you compare Greatest Story Ever Told from Steppin' Out with the Grateful Dead with the E72 box set version, which is on the 5/7 Bickershaw Festival show. On the box set version, there is some banter about fireworks at the beginning of the track before they go into the song, so the time stamps we're going to compare are different, but they're the same parts of the song.

On the E72 box set 5/7/72 Bickershaw GSET, you can hear Jerry fiddling with the wa wa pedal at the 1:30 mark, and then Phil launches into the song. After the first "left-handed monkey wrench" verse, there's an instrumental break from 2:47 - 3:10. Notice there is no piano whatsoever in that 23 second clip. Now fast forward to the "cool clear water well you can't ever tell" verse from 4:09 - 4:32. Hear any piano? Me neither.

Now go to the Steppin' Out version, which is the same recording (Disc 1, track 2). The firework banter is removed from the beginning, so the time stamps are different as I mentioned, but rest assured, it's the same performance, as stated in the liner notes (and you can still hear Jerry fiddle with the wa wa pedal, which he doesn't do on any other E72 version of GSET). If you go to the same spot after the first "left-handed monkey wrench" verse, which runs from 1:13 - 1:36, you are now listening to the same 23 second instrumental break, but voila! There is a kick-ass mother f****n' piano solo from the man with God in his name, rolling down the keys at the end of it all because he OWNED that 23 seconds. Then again after "cool clear water well you can't ever tell" verse from 2:34 - 2:57, you'll hear the same thing happen (literally ;-)

So....it was Rockin' The Rhein and Sunshine Daydream that MADE me KeithFan2112. Imagine popping on 4/7/72 and barely being able to tell there's a piano player in the band. Grrrr. Now interestingly, they appear to have used at least disc 3 from the Rockin' The Rhein version IN the E72 box set. I know this because Sugar Magnolia appears here, which is THE performance that made me a Dead Head, so I listened to the two side by side and believe me, I would notice if as much as an audience cheer was missing. The only difference besides the removal of the 5/24 bonus tracksis the place in the middle of the medley where they put the track separator for Wharf Rat; the mix itself is identical (I would bet my own left nut on this one). I am reasonably sure the whole E72 show was culled from the Rockin' The Rhein mix, but a fellow poster here believes only discs 3 & 4.

Regardless, what I find adds insult to injury for my boy Keith, is that the E72 liner notes taut his performance on 4/24 as though he had an exceptional night setting the keys on fire; the fact of the matter is he plays like that every night but simply can't be heard on half the set. When you listen to the Rhein version of Dark Star, it makes me shudder to think what we may be missing from the box set versions.

I gave one example, but it's pretty pervasive. There are spots that aren't as bad. Today's 4/17 show has a fairly loud Keith, as did yesterday's. But take a showpiece like Playing In The Band and compare most of these E72s to Veneta, Houston, or Berkeley (or really most of the two-tracks from the latter half of '72), and you'll hear the difference.

This was all bitched about at length when The E72 Complete Recordings were released:

https://archive.org/post/401638/keith-is-low-in-the-mix

Clever Androids...that's always been a fav of mine; it's said with such whimsy.

I'm impressed (but not surprised) how good This Collective is at the game.

"I'm moving to Australia"

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And I just listened to that the other day, crap.

I have the whole 8/6 show on Soundboard, and the quality was good, so I uploaded it to my phone a few years ago, suited it up with some album art and titled it the exact verbiage, "Don't Climb on the Fence Idiot!"

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That's 7/8/78 just before they launch into the big second set jam.

How about this one: "Hey wait a minute, wait a minute, one of the tahrs did already fall down so I'd like you to cool it from the wahrs and the tahrs. Just dont mess with the wahrs and the tahrs and things is gonna be just fine."

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Week of April 20-26, 2020

Welcome back to the Tapers’ Section, where this week we have Grateful Dead music from 1973, 1979, and 1980.

Our first stop this week is from the Dead’s only show in the west Texas town of El Paso, on 11/23/73, where we have Eyes Of The World ; Around And Around > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Casey Jones, Johnny B. Goode.

Next is the opening of the second set from the Dead’s 11/25/79 show at UCLA, where we have this terrific sequence of Shakedown Street> Bertha; Looks Like Rain ; He's Gone > The Other One.

Lastly this week we have the start of the second set from the opening night of a four show tour of Florida and Georgia. These were the first shows after the three-set extravaganzas at the Warfield and Radio City Music Hall in September-October 1980. From 11/26/80 in Pembroke Pines, FL, we have Cold Rain And Snow; Samson And Delilah ; China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider > Estimated Prophet >Eyes Of The World > Space.

Be safe, and check back with us here next week for more music from the vault.

David Lemieux

https://www.dead.net/features/tapers-section/april-20-26-2020

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...but that one was easy, right? Great moment though, before launching into that SICK Estimated....

Now Wadeocu's most recent one, with all 'dem thar's in derrr....I'm stumped.

What about Gainesville again?

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I don't know when Howard Cosell may have said that or when Phil says Howard said it. My guess is that it was during the Heineken years though.

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Bonus points for who said it - hint: it starts with "wait a minute, wait a minute"

And yes, I do think Bobby might like to move to Gainesville instead !

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In the days when everyone was requesting Alligator, it was standard shenanigans when Bobby tells the Radio City Music Hall crowd it's not a request; there's a real alligator between rows double E and double F.

But then the other night I was listening to one of the Europe 72 shows. Somebody must have hollered for Alligator, and he starts talking about the alligator in New York between rows double E and double F. He's not nearly that entertaining now.....

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I just read your comment about how those Studio records or what you listen to Back Then. Yeah I'm driving that's why all the capital letters are coming up in spelling mistakes. Anyway I'm sure I would have loved those Grateful Dead records, probably to the point where I think I would have followed the band around. I posted my concert history of just Spectrum shows not so long ago, which was just a drop in the bucket. And there were repeat concerts with repeat setlists all over the place for bands like yes and rush and The Who. If I encountered the Grateful Dead when I was 18 years old and live dead it just come out. Forget it, I would just be in a coma at this point. Probably a blessing in disguise. Eventually I'll get into the studio records but for now I am in all in listener and I'm just still working on the live 60s and 70s, and they keep me infused with it like an IV.

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Bobby- "Its what they call in music circles as a cheater." Jerry-"Its the vulgate." Something like that.

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I remember signing up for The Europe 72 Complete Box Set when it was announced. . .. And then came the production "hiccups." It was clear way back then that corners had been cut due to underestimating the cost of delivering what they were selling. The productions values were compromised from what I remember reading on the forums back then.

Having said all of the above, what was the cause of Keith's piano becoming so low in the mix? As noted by KeithFan here there are single releases of those same shows, Steppin' Out, Rockin the Rhein, that do have keith's piano just exactly perfect in the mix. Does anyone here remember what went wrong back then?

Maybe GD.net should remix them and show Keith some respect!!! And then mail the new mixes on silver pressed cds to those of us who bought the Big Steamer Trunk back then? I guess I will not hold my breath . . .. Still I love that big box set and all these releases.

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Bob: 'Jerry with his acute sense of timing is going to light up another cigarette before this next number. Hopelessly strung out on the evil weed, tobacco' Phil butts in: 'Haven't you wished that someone would invent a cigarette that would go out as soon as you've taken one puff of it and put it down? I know I have.'

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Right. Common. I forgot it was bears choice.

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Garcia, "the demon rum".

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I haven't read through all the older posts, surely the Alligator stories from AMC came up..

Something Daverock wrote got me thinking.. I took a little soak this morning, a quickie.. and got in the Terrapin>PITB from Arrowhead, 7/1/78. It was just another Playing in the Band.. but in just under 9 minutes they made it to Jupiter and back, in time for dinner. Quintessential Grateful Dead, just like every PITB they ever did.

Edit: For the record, those Spring 72 versions might just be the high water mark.

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This next set is respectively dedicated to all the little mice and rats who are trapped in labs and factories all over the world.

If you can come up with this one, several gold stars and a cheers to you!

Very illuminating posts on the sound of the different Europe 72 releases, and Keith's relative placing in the mix. It never occurred to me that the earlier releases could be superior to the ones on the box. I haven't listened to them since the box came out. Those archive posts were interesting, too.

Jim..I am also thinking that the these Europe 72 Playing's could be my favourite versions. Genuinely exploratory, and a perfect example of the music playing the band. I would also say that these first sets and finale's seem to be played more in the spirit of rock n' roll...as in 1950s style...than in any era before or after.

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May this trip have not been oversold :D

I love the Spring PITBs as much as the next guy...but are Summer and Fall not the exact same thing but longer? I come from a mind set where anything worth doing is worth overdoing. I don't really sense a change in style or sound in latter '72, just PITB jam length. Summer / Fall '72 brings us the esteemed 18 minute 8/27 Veneta version, the 25 minute 11/18 Houston meltfest, the 17 minute 8/25 Berkeley performance (which I think gives Veneta a serious run for its money); and it been some time since I put on the 30 minute juggernaut from Dave's Picks Trip to Oz (you know the name, look up the number ;-).....okay, I just finished that one up and immediately repeated. It is indeed The Odyssey from Oklahoma. Don't think for a second 30 minutes means it's overcooked.

Yes, I'm now back from Jupiter and it was well worththe trip.. That Terrapin => Playing In The Band from Arrowhead delivered the goods Jimbo, and then some (Estimated => Other One => Wharf Rat).

Donna fan I am, but I wish she sat out of the post-hiatus Wharf Rats. There's something in the solitude of Jerry's lone voice that brings the lyrical content to life. August West was having a personal moment in the story that took form in a vocal soliloquy. Adding a second singer, any singer, turns those verses into an ensemble and zaps me right off that dock and back on to my couch.

Whew, that Wharf Rat thing's been on my mind a while.... "Bariste! Another French Roast please!" (do I tell her several buttons have come loose and I can see her breasts when she leans over to add the cream and sugar?) Taking sip and placing mug back on table. "One more spoonful of cream please, and just a small dash of sugar at a time if you would; I don't like it too sweet." I probably shouldn't embarrass her about the buttons......

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