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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • JimInMD
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    "Isn’t today the anniversary of you cracking your skull open?"

    I chortled my beer when I read this. Hilarious.. really, this comment is hilarious on so many levels. Many thanks to VGuy for sharing and for the cone kid for remembering it on it's anniversary. Reminds me of Spikoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High, 'people on ludes should not drive.' Clearly wise, well chosen words.

    The things we learn here at dead.net. "Always maintain three points of contact when inhaling balloons in the parking lot."

    I'm behind on what are you listening today. April 71 blew away my free time. It made me look and realize that my digital library is stale.. there have been many Charlie Miller upgrades to shows I had so I have to add these before I listen.. and I am not finished with the FE run.

    I have question to all you wise folks out there.. when you stream from the archive... .is it lossless, SHN or do they stream a compressed file like MP3 when you hit the stream playlist VBR button. Anyone know?

    Hey.. seriously.., to all the kind, thoughtful and far from norml people out there. I am digging how this thread has become a place to not only listen, suggest and comment on a hand picked show of the day but to check in and add some free form comments. Seems reasonable to me.

    Concussion anniversary one day removed.. love it. What were your first words when coming to, It's got a Cumberland?

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    Loving it so far…don’t panic during first 30 seconds of Bertha, they quickly get everything just exactly perfect. Thanks for the sticker Dave

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    Progress...

    Starting to work through DaP 38, slow progress since I've never really been able to listen to music properly while I'm working, plus got distracted delving into 4/28 and 4/29 of '71.

    The 71' is some fantastic stuff -- I've heard it all before at one time or another: the 4/29 Alligator sequence was my first or second bootleg back in college in '76 -- could have also been 6/19/76's Let it Grow/Dancin'/Cosmic Charlie sequence. Both of those are still around, on my gym MP3 player and in my car; the Hard to Handle is my favorite version, a Just Exactly Perfect (tm) handoff from Pigpen to Bobby to Jerry and back to Pig for the close. Later on, I got hold of the 4/28 Dark Star, a perfect, beautiful jewel of a version, from a Gans broadcast, I think, and eventually I acquired the whole 5 show series -- the 4/28 Other One is sublime, and there's lots of other fun stuff as well (Second that Emotion was a delightful surprise the first time I heard it).

    BTW, my DaP 38 is #1856. I have no idea what that means -- seems to be random across releases...

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    Bona Fide Classic!

    50 years ago at the Fillmore East.

    Third Dead bootleg I got in 1985.
    I've always loved it.
    My favorite Hard To Handle for sure.
    Whole show just cooks as I'm assuming All of you know, if you don't well I envy you today, cause prepare to get rocked by the GOGD.

    I'm going for the full meal deal.
    Starting with NRPS sbd.

    Goddamn I declare! If I coulda told my 15 year old self (as I was listening through the hiss of my multi-gen copy, dreaming of a better quality tape) where I'd be at today I'm not sure he woulda believed it.
    What a long strange trip indeed!

    Good stuff.

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    Concussion Anniversary....

    ....no. It's tomorrow. Or wait. Is it today? Nope. Definitely tomorrow.
    Shipping notice for 38 just received. ETA Monday.

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    Vguy,
    Isn’t today the anniversary of you cracking your skull open?

    Lesson learned. Sit down when doing balloons.

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    I was about to backtrack to…

    I was about to backtrack to 4/13, and 4/16/84, which I downloaded, but never had a chance to fully listen through, but I might hafta throw on the '71 Fillmore for the 4/29 anniversary. That was one of my earliest tapes, but I haven't heard it in ages. Otherwise, looks like I'm gonna be outa sync with you guys for a while, but I'm taking notes. ;)

    Thats_Otis, Strider 808808, DeadVikes: So, I gather Doc is Mr. '71, and 4/28 is his desert island tape? Damn. Better get on that. I've had 4/29 for as long as I can remember, but never managed to hear the day before. Into the queue it goes! :)

    Vguy72: Ain't always wrong, but I've never been right? ;)

    I second PROUDFOOT's welcome to PRODIGIT.

    I've loved that 4/18/71 show for so long. It'll always been one of my favorites.

    Strider 808808: I've got a tiny potted almond on my rooftop patio. It looked like it was having a rough time last year, but seems to have almonds this year. It's barely 3 feet tall, but it had beautiful blossoms this year. I need to read up on what I should do. Normally I figure plants know how to grow themselves better than I know how to grow them, so I leav'em alone, mostly. Almond Brothers, though... groan/laugh :) Good one. I like JIMINMD's idea for the growing soundtracks.

    DeadVikes: Interesting about that missing show from the '76 box set. I didn't pay much attention to that set 'cause I usually can't lay out for a big purchase like that. I hafta chip away an album or two at a time... and there's also international shipping... but anyway. That omission alone makes it a ripe pick.

    OROBORUS: Exactly what you said, like, five pages ago... lol. Having not listened to as much from the mid-80s, '84 in particular, it's great to have some people who can point me in the right direction. Lotta shows in those years. I'm glad I'm finally finding my footing. RE: "The energy that comes with the danger," yeah I hear that. Well said. Working with, or around things can lead to some very creative decisions. I think I mentioned in my previous post how I finally realized that a lot of the energy actually coming as a result of some of Jerry's physical frailties. More jammin' I'm always down with that! I would never presume to judge anyone's personal choices, and that isn't the reason I haven't explored that era as much. Take it to the limit!
    As I've said before, loving Jerry's silvery elf voice, a few experiences with croaky Jerry kind of bumming me out had made me "less enthusiastic" about collecting these tapes, but I would never say there's a Dead era I don't like. That 4/20 Scarlet Fire is amazing, yet completely different from the also amazing late 70s performances.

    I've been slowly building up from a million gen second set only Cornell tape. Got lucky enough to have a buddy who's uncle was a taper, so I did have an 83 San Raphael, 6/29/86 Alpine Valley, and '88 Miami, Houston, Dallas that all came from him. Maybe that's where the 85 New Year show came from , too. The Formerly The Warlocks Hampton show must've come from a trade. Speaking of '71, got real into '71 after getting in on some tape trees with 2/18, 2/24 Capitol Theater, to 4/17 Princeton, to 4/29 Fillmore (is that what we're on today?), then probably came the Harpur College tape from '70 which got a ton of air time, and the wild '69 Big Rock Pow Wow. The King Biscuit tape arrived at some point. This was the 90s, so there were a few contemporary trees that kept me up to date, too. Got heavily into the primal 60s stuff when torrenting became big. Still slowly filling in the gaps when I've got time to lend my ears and sort through sources. Until this month, 4/19 Philly was somehow the only show from '84 I'd managed to get into my library, and I only added that a year ago. I had a handful of '83 shows and a handful of '85 shows, and I finally clicked with a couple '82 shows in the past year.

    Notes: Let's see, 4/21 Philly, also back to add the 17th. 10/20 sbd. Ok. I'm a true believer in audience tapes, but I'll keep that in mind. :) :) :) 6/25/85... scrolled past several rave reviews while trying to figure out where I'd left off here. Interest is definitely piqued. 85 summer tour, in general, check. Then 6/24 and 6/30. Cool. That oughta keep me occupied for a while. :D

    Also, not a skier, but that deep powder analogy is a keeper!

    DAVEROCK: Yeah, man. That Silver Machine clip is cool. So much goin' off there. Looks like utter chaos. Great!

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    Bobby totally blew the final verse in St. Stephen....

    ....you can hear them try to gather themselves together.
    On. The. Fly. And succeeded!
    That's my take anyway. I'm a biased commenter.

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    Here is to you Doc! What a great show! Best ever? That is in the eye of the beholder. Sound quality is A+. That is certainly something that has puzzled me throughout the years on how some came through smelling like roses and others, well they did not.
    Love The Rub, King Bee, that Morning Dew is another top performer. Shortest Dark Star I have ever heard. St. Stephen is great and interesting. Strong finish.

    And man, they sure beat the shit out of Truckin in 71.

    Carlo, nice number, highest number I have seen so far. Enjoy it.
    Guess that must mean #7 will be on the way at some point.

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    Had not heard it in many years. Vaguely remember the bootleg cassette showing up in Missoula by the late 70s. The recording quality is stunning. Be there now. Cool coincidence ,I heard (rolling) thunder in the distance during the 17: minute mark on the Other One with Phil bombs at the same time. Those Dark Star people sure got a surprise (again) during the five night Fillmore run. The Morning Dew is so powerful it gives me chills up my spine. My old bootleg had a brutal chop/cut out at the crescendo . Skullduggery I say. Ladies and Gentlemen the Grateful Dead restored the complete song. What an amazing Dead concert. So focused and powerful it transcends time & space. Timeless music for the ages. (Read ; historians 50 years from now)

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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In process and it has been a while. Sound quality from my perspective is somewhat lacking. Love the Dupree's, It's all over now, good Passenger, Brown Eyed Women. Just finished Eyes, really good. Again, wish the sound quality was better.

Thanks Bolo and Mary!

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Disc one is fun (it's a mix of several shows, me remembers...CR&S is always welcome)
Disc two is sublime. Eyes, Playin' > Wheel > Playin'. I do notice some sound quality issues at times, but they are not horrific and permanent. I remember the Playin' is good as always, and then gets reeeeeeally good
Disc three is phenomenal. As I listened recently, I remember smiling at the glory of the show. Scarlet > Fire, Truckin' > The Other One > Wharf > Around

the Madison show took place about 50 miles north of where l lived at the time. but since I was in 8th grade, I had no clue or awareness of that fact.

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One of my favorites Scarlet>Fire's of all time.... Also love the Samson when after a prolong opening jam Weir does the woohoo type of shout out!! I've posted about the Scarlet>Fire before but there is a Jerry Keith chord interaction after the singing in Scarlet that for me is mind melting!!! Good first choice Bolo... One last ramble, for me this show 2/5/78 is in my mind is the last show of 77... The April tour after this has a different vibe..

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....listened to the first disc last night. Cold Rain, All Over Now, Duprees and BE Woman all top shelf renditions. Man. Iowa got all the good shows. Will start up disc two a little later.
Thats the show with the extended Samson due to Bob's mic difficulties, correct?

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A few momentous stand outs for me: The Music Never Stopped; this version easily made it onto a "best of" compilation early on and has never been supplanted. Fight me. Also, the Estimated > Eyes of so so good. Beautiful elongated Eyes intro, then just mad jamming all the way through, nice upbeat Eyes tempo. Great exploratory Estimated as well. I love the drop into Eyes here; expertly pulled off. The Scarlet > Fire is very awesome too. Long, jammy. Nothing new here, just adding my love.

Nice idea.
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The first thing I noticed is that it features two nights, but unless I am looking in the wrong place, there is no indication which nights which songs are from. I could have checked in Deadbase...but that's upstairs and as I was settled down to listen I didn't bother. It looks like one first and two second sets.

I have just played the first cd so far. Coming from Europe 72, this sounds a lot simpler rhythmically. During Spring 72, you can focus on Bill, Phil, Bob, or Keith - as well as Jerry obviously-and they are all playing with energy and imagination. Here, the focus is more just on Jerry. I like his fiery guitar sound on here, but I am not as keen on Bob's sound. Donna, on the other hand, sounds nice on Looks Like Rain. I prefer this version of Good Lovin to the ones played in 72. It sounds almost calypso-a real celebratory sound.
The cd picks up pace nicely on the last three songs, with great guitar solos from Jerry. It seems a bit more like standard "rock" in a way, compared to the swing they had with one drummer and a fully functioning Keith. I enjoyed listening to it, but I will probably leave the first of the set 2s for tomorrow.

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Not much left to say LLR crackled like a thundercloud!

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....Jerry fresh off his laryngitis. The crackling in his voice during Wharf Rat proves it. His voice was never the same, but still rocks my soul.
Trey Pistachio dropped another song. "Are You There Colleen?". With a message of getting off drugs. Methinks Colleen was his dealer back in the day. Might be wrong. Never right.
I had a dealer back in the day. Name was Chill. Called him from payphones. That was a long time ago though. Thank God.

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At the start of 1978 I'd sort of lost interest in the Dead, having last seen them in 74. 78 was my fifth year in college (yeah I know) and I was way more into jazz than rock in large part due to an awesome jazz club on campus, the Backdoor. The place just had a constant stream of major talent coming through. McCoy Tyner, Charlie Mingus, Elvin Jones, Roland Kirk etc. So in early January I see the Dead are gonna be at Golden Hall so my girlfriend and I say "What the hell?" and I get tickets for 1/07. Now in 78 the Dead were not that big of a draw and I wasn't expecting much, sort of a nostalgia trip. Wrong. They were great, just awesome. So after the show we immediately get tickets for 1/08. These were the Bobby songs only nights but that didn't matter a bit. My girlfriend (now my wife) cried during Looks Like Rain. We were back on the bus until 85 when the arrival of our first kid changed everything. Footnote to that is our last show was a week before his birth and she was major prego and treated like royalty by all you wonderful heads. So I love DP 18 and I especially like the Eugene show release. Stay home.

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Nice! I'm overdue for a listen.

RE: DP18, agree with Jim - Brown-Eyed Women is PERFECT! For that matter, so is TMNS - powerful! And then there's disc 3. If I had to rescue only one single disc from my burning house, this one would be in the running. That Scarlet/Fire is a half-hour blissfest, Truckin' is solid, TOO is insanely good. Masterful music!

On to Wichita!

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....has metal influences. Garcia tapping into his inner Iommi. My ear told me so.
Wichita this soon into the game? Bold move Cotton. Let's see how it pans out.

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Love the Dodge Ball reference!!

funny how they didn't list out what shows the songs are from. even funnier, the songs in Disc 1 are actually from 3 shows - Its All Over Now and Duprees are from 2/4/78 Milwaukee! The Wikipedia entry for DP 18 lays it out if you're interested. Deadbase IX also lists a soundcheck of Ripple x3 in Milwaukee - what the heck is that??!!

As others have noted, among many highlights a great Music Never Stopped and Eyes of the World from 2/3 - love the super long intro to Eyes, it reminds me of a post-hiatus favorite, 6/8/77. They Love Each Other is fantastic. The 2nd set from 2/5 is just wild. Such a raw sound to the Wolf! Would love to see released the Uptown shows that immediately proceed this. Worth noting how rare The Wheel was at this time - 2/3 was first time played since mid fall '77, another year until played again on 2/17/79 (Keith & Donna's last show), and then another year and a half before it finally re-entered regular rotation.

A couple technical notes - based on Dick's Caveat Emptor, 2/3 appears to have been recorded at a slower tape speed (7.5 ips vs. 15), and so the sound quality is a bit rougher. Also, IIRC, there is an unpatched gap (sad face) in the jam between verses 2 and 3 in Eyes of the World. There's a very nice audience of 2/3 on the Archive if anyone wants to hear that.

Now on to Wichita!!

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After listening to almost 4 hours of insanely wonderful music, the overriding conclusion is that, in my opinion, NO ONE can play guitar like Garcia did. At times subtle and nuanced, at other times raging, but always just exactly perfect within the context of the song they were playing. Remarkable, really. Feeling blessed to have experienced GD/JGB live so many times.

Garcia may not be the "best" guitarist (highly subjective, as most of those inane "best of" polls demonstrate), but he is the only guitarist I can listen to every day. That includes Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Gilmore and whoever else you want to throw in there.

It's grate to be a Deadhead!!

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You're a harsh taskmaster! Listening to Grateful Dead concerts will continue until morale improves.

Bluecrow - thanks for the tip. There were a couple of compilations that came out in the 1990s that featured songs from multiple shows, but didn't indicate in the sleeve notes which song came from which show. Ladies and Gentlemen from April 1971 and Dozin' at the Knick from Spring 1990 were two others.

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Agree 100% with your comments on Jerry, what a genius! The whole band was.

Just finishing up Dave's 11 now. Comments to follow.

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Dooo, just listened to that last week, for first time, so maybe we’ll sneak another round in after this 71 grease fest we’ve got going on today .....fall 72 is def fo shizzle....

EDIt: MHAMMOND12...whoa. I’m not sure what’s more impressive, seeing the laryngitis shows or all that top shelf jazz in a club setting???

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Dicks picks vol 21 , not the main show the extras , Iko iko > morning dew > sugar magnolia . Absolutely sublime , and without doubt one of the best dew’s 😸

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I shouldn't really call the Backdoor a club. It was an empty room on the ground floor of the Student Union and Performing Arts building on campus that the A.S. booking people converted into a small concert venue. Just a stage and corked walls. No seats. No refreshments. Bring your own. The talent that appeared there was unbelievable looking back. Freddie King. John Lee Hooker. Two memories...sitting under McCoy Tyner and watching his right sock working its way down past his ankle has he stomped his foot keeping constant time...Roland Kirk playing the flute with his nose, playing three saxophones at once, playing the piano with his elbows and head, and careening around the room playing saxophone being led by his handler (Rahsaan was blind you know) who had an air raid siren he would blow off in your face if you didn't get out of the way fast enough. And none of this seemed like a gimmick. Bright moments indeed.

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This show and bonus tracks from Oklahoma City is definitely top stuff. Sound quality is A+. A great Bear recording! Man, he did great work.
The whole show flows nicely, although not a long second set. Love the Sugaree, Bird Song is awesome, Jack Straw, Box of Rain! Come on. Casey Jones to close the first set and than open with Cumberland. Great Truckin Other One, very unique Other One. Always loved Brokedown Palace and this one they play flawlessly.

I will throw out 12/28/79 Road Trips 3.1??

Let me know Gents.

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I like the post-space UJB and Bertha on that one a lot mainly for Brent's harmonies. Overall a classic pick with a lot to like. I might give DP5 (12/26/79) the edge however. That pick is hefty.

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Listened to both Dave Picks 11, 11/17/72, and Europe 72, 04/07/72, as assigned by Bolo. Dave's Picks 11 is one of my favorite releases. Great recording by Owsley improved by the treatment of Mr. Norman. Has an incredible Bird Song. Just a wonderful release.

Europe 72, 04/07/72 Wembley just blows it away. Leaves a smoking crater where Wichita used to be. Europe 72 can not be bettered.

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This one has a nice slow relaxed build up with some ripping Jerry. TOO than blows the roof off! The only TOO>Brokedown Palace. End of set 2 all great. A perfect prelude to the next to nights.

ps. 4/7 Rips the paint off the walls from the first note. No contest.

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Okay Bolo, what are your thoughts?
Next show for today?

I suggested 12/28/79. RT3.1

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I’m down, right after my John Prine compilation

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I relocated last week and since that time I have been unpacking as much as I can and maintaining my workload from home. So I have been out of commission here for a while. I came across this pick of the day and I am all for it.

Just to throw a show out there ( not for today) but how about 9/8/73? I have never heard it but Dick Latvala spoke highly of it. It might be nice to give it a listen.

Meanwhile it looks RT 3.1 will it be for today. Maybe I will add 4/8/72 as well.

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Nice - been a while since that one hit my headphones.

MHammond gets a gold star. But what did you listen to AFTER lunch?

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I was at this show, it was a blast! Sugaree, High Time, The Music Never Stopped, this show was great from start to finish. This show sounds so much better then Dave's Picks 31 from just a .sound point of view. Yeah, this show was a hell of a lot of fun!

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Sugaree lovely, the rest of the set is okay Music rocks! Set 2 Alabama grooving, GSET explosive!, Terrapin super sweet jam, PITB end jam is sick!, UJB outta drums/space yes!, short Miracle, Bertha>Good Love, CJ , OMSN rockin!

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....on it. (I'm the tour buddy still in the car doing bong rips as y'all are heading to the gate.)

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1983/09/10
Santa Fe Downs. Give me this. But for Friday. I'm working tomorrow, but off Friday.
I've stood at Santa Fe Downs and looked east. The view is spectacular.
Whats all the hubbub, bub?
It's got a Music opener and a Cold Rain encore. Warts and all.
Things are strange outside. Bird Songs all day.
edit. Found something!!
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/grateful-dead-jerry-garcia-favourite-song/
Spoiler alert. Row Jimmy. Also a favorite of Bill The Drummer. It was playing as I read it (12.28.79. Disc one. Track four).
I still don't believe in coincidences.

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DaP11: Last half of disc two - the whole He’s Gone thru BDP is incredible

Just starting RT3.1 now , if the first song is any indication of this night, I’m in for something special!

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Hendrix Freak threw this one out a couple days ago but yall were onto something else.....it got me thinking about some primal dead, and haven’t had a good 68 fix for a bit....So Wadaya say Laddys?

MHammond: RT 3.1, nice pick. Started to go through the 79 stuff when DaP 31 came out but didn’t make it, rember liking this one more than 31, and yesterday confirmed that. Really need to get to DP 5 from 12/26, it’s been so long for that one. Maybe this weekend I’ll roll that?

VGUY: I’m down with some Santa Fe tomorrow. Heard about this one for years but don’t think I’ve ever checked it out. Plus 83 would be a nice change up here....

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12/28/79! Is this the best RT release? Maybe, certainly the best 79 release from the Vault so far. Betty did another excellent job here.
I like this release more and more every time I listen to it. Sound quality is A+.Sugaree opener! Different feel to this show without Keith and Donna, but I dig it. Brent's keyboards really shine. Really good flowing Terrapin, Playing, UJB. The show closers are fun and groovy. Makes me want to get up and dance.
And then there is the bonus disc, from 12/30/79. 10 additional songs of bliss. Scarlet Fire, Let it Grow, Truckin! Sweet.

Would love to see more 79 and of course 80. The early Brent years! I know the Chicago release didn't match this release but 79 has a lot to offer.
Yesterday I also listened to 9/1/79. Not an official release, but again great 79 sound.
If you have not heard it, check it out.

Looking forward to our next pick. Let us know!

I can't take credit for that pick. I'm trying the Europe 72 night by night thing and I'm already behind.

Playing now.
Is that today’s pick?

First got this on cassette in mid-90’s and loved it right away. Then got a CD-R copy. Was really happy to get it as a commercially released CD.

This show needs a Plangentized/Normanized remaster 180g vinyl record store day release.

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Looks like I’m a day behind. No worries, I’ll catch up.

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Good to have you kid.

Bolo, what are your thoughts on the last pick. Sounds like the crowd is feeling Dick's 22 for today/ tonight. I will have to sit this one out as I don't have this one. Looking forward to tomorrow's choice.
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