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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    I vote Rhino makes CD duplicates w/ no cover art, cd cases etc. for Dave's 1 - 4 for those that were affected and can at least loosely prove they have CDs that don't work. Or better yet.. send in your faulty discs plus return postage and get just the CD's back in the mail. It would cost them by my estimates about $50k to do this and would create a wealth of goodwill. Or how's this, replace just the CD's for $5 if you mail in your disc rot crapazoid originals.

    I also vote Wilfred T gets the benevolent dead net poster of the year award. Never a negative, only positive vibes. I can't think of a more positive non grumpy way to let Rhino know their crappy first year CD's suck ass. In this world of trouble, we need more good and less not so good.

    Democratic, right, who's with me? #storm the vault #free the reels #trade your defective discs for good ones.

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    DR, try lavender oil or natural something similar with NO ! petroleum distillates on your necks.

    WTJ: good question, I’m not sure?
    GD gear just says he experimented with various pick up placements etc for at least the first few years with his Ibanez custom Bob Weir model(s) (The one seen in 75 pics and used primarily on BFA)
    He started playing those right after the WL 74 shows and messed with them quite a bit until he seemed to have things dialed in which was around the time he started playing the “Cowboy Fancy” version he mostly played until late 82 (I think) when he switched to Modulus.
    I’ve seen pics of both he and Jer playing musician series but not sure exactly when? Most likely 77 and/or 78?
    Maybe when JG switched to Travis Bean as he was looking for a possible production guitar that was easier to fix on the road? I know that was the primary reason he tried the Beans as the custom Irwin had to be sent back to Doug eveytime it needed something.
    I believe I read BITD that Jer just tried one out a time or two, whereas Bob was working quite a bit for a few years with Hasselberger of Ibanez on different tweaks and models etc. ya know, has to be just exactly perfect ; )
    I’ll have to check out some more dated 78 pics and see, but my best guess would be 78…

    EDIT: WTJ, looks like theoretically he played the blond musician series from 5/5/78 until 8/31/78.
    There are several of the same pics throughout with different dates, so can’t be positive of all shows, or all sets etc, but there are pics from Red Rocks with it by but by 9/2/78 at Giants he’s back to the BW model…

    I found one from May 78 with Jerry playing one, but then I couldn’t find it again???

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    Mr Ones - I wondered if it was the fact that Dave's Picks cds may be cheaply made that has caused some of them to curdle. I haven't heard people mention cds by other artists that have done this - but various people on here have mentioned it in connection with Dave's. Having said that...the one I noticed wouldn't play was a Dicks Picks. And not just any Dicks Picks - 11/8/69.
    Billy - I hadn't thought of that, that it could be due to damp, or humidity...dryness whatever in my house. I have had 2 guitars in my house develop hairline cracks in the neck over the years. Both fenders - but according to the local guitar shop, this was just cosmetic, and nothing to worry about. I sold one, and the guy who bought it wasn't worried either. I'd be happier if it didn't happen, myself. I put that down to the atmosphere in the house. But back to cds...why only Dead cds? Back to the way they are made I guess.

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    DAVEROCK, my Dave's Vol. 2 got disc rot, only on discs 2 & 3, but this was a couple of years ago. I asked to see if they would replace, even with burned copies, but I never heard back. Luckily, JIMINMD bailed me out on that one. I'm now concerned it will happen too all of my Dave's. Maybe the cheap products they use in Mexico, where the discs are produced?? This really sucks.

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    It might be caused by different things, my Daves Picks 1 thru 4 are rotten and don't play anymore. I think it might be to much moisture in the house. Its funny, because I have CDs that are way older and have been played many more times and they are just fine, it just seems to be those Dave's Picks..

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    Mornin’, rockers!!!

    Pick Of The Day: Golden Hall, San Diego January 10 1970

    Here’s a nice little show one never hears about, a short sharp shot of Grateful Dead, a little something for everybody, with that fun, loose, early 1970 vibe. OK there’s no gargantuan jams, but if this was the only recording I had on my desert island it would help pass the time quite nicely until my rescue. Often overlooked, but worth a listen.

    Recordings of this little gem have circulated since the dawn of time, maybe there’s a pristine, “new & improved” copy in those banana boxes……….

    The biggest problem with every art is by the use of appearance to create a loftier reality….

    Rock on!!

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    Death is a commingling of eternity with time; in the death of a good man, eternity is seen looking through time…..

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    Disc rot?

    I noticed to my horror that the 3rd cd of Dicks Picks 16 -11/8/69 wouldn't play over Christmas. When I looked at the cd, I noticed that it appears discoloured in part - it looks a bit like it has a light coffee stain over parts of it. I guess that is disc rot. I keep all the Dicks Picks in a closed cabinet, so it's not sunlight - and the others, touch wood, seem alright.
    The Dave's Picks all seem okay when I play them.

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    They were in a hot car alright. Not anymore. Interestingly, all my discs were in a hot car but only DaP year 1 have suffered the harmful effects. :-/ Luckily, I had digital copies of everything before ripping became impossible

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    Thinks that a scooter (moped) is a motorcycle.

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    Wilfred,
    You mentioned that a few years ago. I forgot if you said whether or not you had stored them in the car.
    I checked mine back then and didn’t find any rot.

    12-1-79 mtx
    That new HT sounds good.
    You can find it on etree just below the new GEMS 1-2-72.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 06:56

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Cool! This is a pick that I have not spun since its release. I am not a huge fan of 78 in general (though the July Box is great,) but I remember thinking that this one was better than I was expecting. Anyway, I am looking forward to diving in and giving it some fresh ears! If I recall, I preferred the 1st set to the 2nd on this one, but I'll reassess today.

BOLO - I threw my (most likely erroneous) hat in the ring and sent you a PM.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 07:03

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I've never heard that before! That made a really nice warm-up for the day, making coffee, and watching the sun come out listen! Thank you! I especially loved the "Gomorrah" - what a gorgeous tune and what a great version!

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GRATEFULGAL7277 - Thanks for suggesting Jerry's only solo acoustic show! I plan to give that a spin today for sure.

Bootleg notes.. A lone voice in the crowd shouts out "Maestro" and that about sums it up!

Supposedly Jerry was terrified and never did it again, the show fills a nice gap in a hot Spring '82 GD tour.. Bob & Jerry would play Letterman together 3 nights later. Love this stuff!

I'm with OTIS - '78 can run pretty hot or cold and the set lists tend to be a bit pedestrian, I don't think I gave this release a lot of attention, it probably got a listen and then I moved on to the next thing.

But from the sounds of the Opening Bertha > Good Lovin' through.. I'm up to Tennessee Jed, this sounds like a hot one! I think most of April is real good?!?

It's gonna be a good day to listen to the Dead!

PS - BOLO24 did you get my guess?
I tried to send a PM with my Fixable Foot Show Guess, being new at this participation thing and all, message system is kinda hooky... Can't tell if it got sent to you or not?

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 07:58

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Bertha> Good Love rocks, Candyman LLR was nice, rest of set 1 was just okay,

Lazy Supp. nice jam, Estimated>Eyes was nice, Drums into NFA love that, Wharf Rat Sugar Mag
OMSN blow out.

Nashville is a fine choice for a revisit, anniversary no less! Cool cover art also, psychedelic river boat and Wharf Rat. Anybody looking for an excellent paddlewheel side trip should take a listen to the album Mark Twang by the late great John Hartford. Gratefulgal - def will check out the solo Jerry show. I saw tail end of a Garcia & Kahn show a couple months later at Auditorium Theater in Chicago. Rowdy happy crowd. End of show, people yelling for Jerry to play Ripple. Then someone yells out loud and clear -"Play what you want!" Jerry looks up, says "Thank you!" and then plays Ripple! As to "Fixable Foot" - i got nothing Bolo.

I'm glad you enjoyed. I love the Gomorrah as well! I think the announcer saying "This is a rare musical experience" is very true for this show. Going Going Gone is also hauntingly beautiful.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 08:37

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....i provided two guesses. Both wrong. I have no idea.
Working today, so unable to listen to the physical Nashville, so firing up a Miller SB of the Archive.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 08:43

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Rare Musical Experience indeed!

I think that's John Scher (promoter) doin' that introduction.

There's a couple of videos of Rubin & Cherise (Spelling seems to be subjective) & Ripple floating around on the interwebs.. They'll definitely bring a smile to your face.

Jerry!

I wonder if the whole set / both sets video is out there somewhere?

I'm diggin' this! Thanks for the tip..

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 09:04

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I sent a reply to your PM - I hope that it went through this time. I don't know what happened to the first one.

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Submitted by gr8fulgal77 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 09:05

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Thank you so much! So cool to see Jerry playing! That song is one of my favs from that set so that was a real treat!

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Submitted by gr8fulgal77 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 09:06

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I sent my answer in last night! I can't wait to see what show it is, such an interesting hint!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 09:13

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Synchronicity

Thanks for the mention > triggered some research > stumbled on video > had to share.

Love that song too, and haven't heard this show in years and years.. so good!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 09:25

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Yay Work! The economy needs you.

Let us know what you listen too.. maybe we'll join you.

Not working & shit, but in spirit you know?

BTW Miller has been dropping some nice Don Pearson Cassette Master Upgrades lately... there's some freshies out there! Especially if you like 1989, 90 & 91... 9/26/91 comes to mind.. I know that run gets pretty panned by history and in McNally's book, but I dug that show the other day... for '91 sounded pretty sweet.

Best wishes.

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Submitted by pkb on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 10:24

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I sent my guess to your inbox. This is my first time sending a message, so I hope I did it correctly.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 10:47

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Me too, Looks like PM aren't working.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 10:54

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Rocking Bertha>Good Lovin! Very nice Candyman (what a great song! This version is stellar.) Donna sounding great on LLR. Tenn Jed - why so sllllooooowwww? It is such a great tune, but at this pace, it is a bit of a bore. Jack Straw is pretty standard, Peggy-O is always welcome, and this one is pretty good- Jerry's singing is solid. Minglewood is high-energy, rock-star Weir, and Deal closes things out nicely. Overall, I enjoyed it... It does get dragged down in the middle of the set with Tenn Jed serving as the the third "slow" tune in a row, then followed by an average Jack Straw and another slow tune Peggy-O. Miglewood and Deal bring the energy back up, but neither are "must-hear" versions, IMO. Overall, a solid 7/10.

"That's it, we quit." Sounded like Bob was actually kinda pissed!

Now onto Set II...

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 10:58

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I received a PM from Bolo saying that he did not get my original, so it looks like PMs are working (at least in some capacity.)

I replied to his PM, but have yet to hear anything. I think my problem was that the site didn't recognize that I had sent the message to Bolo. The original is in my Messages folder, but I am the only recipient. I know that I typed his username into the "To:" portion, but for some reason, it didn't register.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 10:59

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In honor of our newest release, do to ship in a week may I suggest
a trip to June '74 with Dick's Picks Vol 12. 6/26 - 6/28 1974.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 11:04

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PM Resent, this one includes you on the thread.. so I think it worked.

LMK and Thanks!
Best,
The GOGD

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 11:06

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I like the idea of some '74 pre-partying.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 11:14

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Have now received the missing messages.

No winner yet, although That's Otis was on the right track - he just needed to try a "little bit harder, just a little bit more, a little bit further than he gone before."

EDIT: No, "The Wheel" isn't in the setlist.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 11:28

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Thanks Bolo24!

Dang it.. I knew my attempt was weak 😬 🌹⚡️🌈

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 13:20

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Garcia's solos on virtually every song of that JGB 91 release were immaculate. Whether slow, fast, bluesy or funky, each song was performed darn near flawlessly. Melvin and David were beasts on their respective instruments, with the ladies adding beauty to the vocal palette. A great latter-day release!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 13:39

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Had not listened to this show in a long time. Also on my iPod . Lazy Lightning - Supplication was exciting.
Happy Earth Day 50 today. Was at Central Park bandshell for first Earth Day celebration 50 years ago when I 16. Saw the Jefferson Airplane play a free concert a few weeks later at the same venue.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 13:48

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Hiya Bolo! Sent another PM your way... (fingers crossed!)

Set II for today's listen has been delayed (how is it that I seemingly have more work when I am not at work?!?) Anyway, about to walk the pups and start dinner. Set II will have to be my cooking jams for the night :)

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 14:04

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Dave's Picks #15. One more Saturday night in Nashville. Damn right! Like Otis and Strider, I don't listen to this one often, but I should. I usually pull 4/24/78, Dave's #7.
But this wonderful exercise is forcing me to listen to these shows again in full.

Nice first set, yes Otis, that New Minglewood blues really rocks. Bob definitely kicked it up a notch on this one.
I have to say I really like Deal, however, this version and other 78 versions with Donna's high pitch squeal of Deal, just makes me want to turn it off. Sounds like yodeling.
Second set is sweet, great start and I like the Estimated, but Jerry kind of wanders a bit in these 78 versions. Really good Eyes, love the Wharf Rat and great finish with Sugar Magnolia and One More Saturday Night.

These picks have been fun for me people. Thanks!

I think Conekid maybe had some suggestions for next picks? I have a few more as well, but I will wait until others get some more in.

Oh, one more thing, I believe we will be getting another early April 78 release soon.

Be well folks!

Edit, sorry I didn't see Dicks #12. Rats, another one I don't have.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 14:43

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At this point, it's fairly apparent that the odds of someone solving this riddle based on the sole clue provided are pretty low. On a positive note, some of the guesses have been quite clever and somewhat entertaining!

So, below you'll find a further (furthur?) clue. A consolation prize will go to the first accurate guess. I'll save the better goodies for a future giveaway. Again, show your work, one guess per screen name.

Here it is:

2 word anagram, no leftover letters.

Good luck!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 15:49

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"guesses have been quite clever and somewhat entertaining!"

Bolo, I bet you pissed your pants when you saw my answer.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 16:05

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....holee shit Garcia! Tell us how you really feel!! As Jim Carrey said in The Mask, "Smokin!!"

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 16:48

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I'm still trying to figure out Liberace on a ostrich running in a garbage dump in Virginia from last year... I guess i need easier clues, like Alpine Valley is in this state!!! Just kidding... bob t

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 16:55

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Yeah Deadvikes, the pick I was holding on to is 8-13-75. I was looking for a reason to listen to the vinyl copy I have.
But we don’t have to listen to it this week.
Alternatively, maybe we need to throw in a more modern show at this stage of the game. Say, something with Bruce?
Maybe spiced up with some Branford in honor of his father being taken by Covid?
9-10-91 for tomorrow?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 17:05

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....what was up with that clue last year involving Liberace??
EDIT. 9.10.91 for Thursday? Okee-dokey. I'm easy to please.

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 17:52

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Milton the Toaster was a spokesman! Just kidding i have not even come close to guessing a riddle of yours.... be safe everyone... bob t

Well..... That narrows it down.

Narrows it down to what show?
I, for one, do not know.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 19:14

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I can think of at least six shows that fit this bill. The US Festival in 82.. a few Fillmore East shows, Sunsplash '82 and of course the Closing of Winterland just to name a few. None of them contain fixable feet anagrams though.

I think all the clues are carefully documented if you take a magnifying glass and do a deep dive on Blotter Art. That's all I've got. Be safe all.

http://www.key-z.com/special.html

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Wed, 04/22/2020 - 22:18

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So, as the whole family is extremely fortunate and working from home and going to school, my 11 year had a very asoute observation. I have been working in our basement and playing a ton of GD. I don't do the headphones due to fear of hearing issues (yes, might be old lame reasoning). "Your music is so loud and annoying." Of course I said, "No it is not and if it was why do you always dance every time you hear it and sing along?"

"I don't like it, it is just stuck in my head."

For AJS and Carlo, Jerry! Jerry Garcia!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Thu, 04/23/2020 - 04:17

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Grateful Dead music is highly infectious before you no it you can have symptoms like singing out loud dancing around collecting massive amounts of live shows.

ps. 6/28/74 To Lay Me Down last Jam almost blew my walls out.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 04/23/2020 - 07:41

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About to fire it up.

Deadvikes, don’t let those kids push you around.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 04/23/2020 - 07:55

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https://archive.org/details/gd1991-09-10.mtx.amdig.gems.98132.flac16/gd…
....just started. At work again today, so i will be pausing it here and there, but I'll make in though.
On a side note, the mayor of Las Vegas embarrassed the shit out of herself and our city during an interview on CNN yesterday. Holy cow. I just put both my hands in my head and shook it. Technically, i live in Henderson, so she's not MY mayor. Lol.
Avatar changed accordingly for todays listen.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 04/23/2020 - 08:40

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Hey there!

I've enjoyed reading the back and forth and tripping through these live Dead picks. It's like a smorgasbord:)

Follow Up on Yesterdays listening & comments:
4/22/78 - I agree with everything you all been laying down in regards to that pick and don't have anything better to add, nice work! It was fun to dust it off.. I think it might get dusty again.

4/10/82 - Jerry Acoustic, man is that a treat! Both sets, so intimate and special, flawed and personal. Kinda like the maestro himself a multi-faceted jewel.

I took a detour along the route to today and I'd highly recommend it -
4/22/77 - What a killer show!

After tripping through June '76 box set & DiP V20 - 9/25 & 9/28/76 followed by DaP V15 - 4/22/78 this show lands right in the middle and gives them a run for their money.

The 1st show of the legendary Spring Tour, an AMAZING 20 minute PITB to close Set 1, The 2nd ever FOTM, 1st ever Mojo. It's definitely worth the trip. And... it's so cool to hear the difference between 1976 & 1978. Ever changing ever evolving. It's the same band, but it's not. Check out the solo in IMHBTR (playing right now), wow Good Stuff! The launching point for some of their most legendary shows that will follow in the next coming weeks. This show feels like it's a bit off the radar, can't remember really settling into it before, probably collected in a fever to get everything and.... well check it out!

Alright, sounds like today is packed with more good listening suggestions -
1991-09-10 - 30 Trips
1974-06-26 & 1974-06-28 - DiP V12

I've got my work cut out for me, but I'm hip to the challenge.

Be Well you all and keep the good times rolling!