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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    my pick of the day is 3/7/81

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    Led Zeppelin IV

    LZ: when I am in the mood for LZ, they sound so.fn.good.

    9/8/73: I gotta listen again. I thought the Birdsong was from 9/8. Derp.

    9/7: still need to hear the PITB.

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    Once a Year Just Isn't Enough

    5/2/70, wowwow stuff. The entire show is off the hook good. My answer to the Disco Dancin' in the Streets.

  • Strider 808808
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    Seems like I’ve been here before

    We did listen to this a year ago. Another rites of spring concert. Good choice, (bears) choice. 5/2/70 is another of the early bootleg cassette favorites.

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    NRPS opens, Pig with a sweet " Man's World" and it's available on vinyl! Whooo Hooo

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    NRPS opens, Pig with a sweet " Man's World" and it's available on vinyl! Whooo Hooo
    The vinyl version updated with new remastering, plantgent process, and includes Cold Rain and Snow

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    Feels like we've been here before, huh?

    51st Anniversary of one the all time greats today.

    Had a good time listening to this last year, we'll see how it sounds this year ;)

    The DaP V38 bonus disc has been in heavy rotation over here.
    Hot stuff!
    And Strider's pal Jay wrote some great liner notes, so cool to hear stories of the '73 Dead scene.

    Hope all yours find you and raise a toast to the epic Evening with the Grateful Dead that happened 51 years ago today!

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    RE: Jerry rips on people who are calling for "Dawk Staw"

    I usually associate that job with Phil.
    <squeaky voice> Saint Stephen. Saint Stephen. Play Saint Stephen, man<end voice>.
    He can come off pretty harsh sometimes, but mostly with the house lighting crew, maybe.

    Oroborous: Nice summary. I've been having a hard time just getting through the 28th and 29th, but that April '71 project sounds well worth the effort. Hearing the interplay of the guitars so clearly on the 28th board really heightens the excitement of Hard to Handle. So much good stuff happening when Tom Contstanten joins at the end. I finally know how to pronounce his name!

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    Jerry rips on people who are calling for "Dawk Staw"

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    What a run

    Been meaning to do a big wrap up of the last 2 huge April 71 Fillmore shows, but just haven’t had the time, and I’m sure enough has been said already, so I’ll just pile on the accolades. WOW, both shows are definitely prime Dead.
    I think I’m with Doc in likening the 28th better than the 29, and after hearing every version since 3/24, also think the H2H from the 28th is the Bobbie Dazzler fo sho! But that’s just a dog sense kinda thing as both shows are stellar.
    So glad I did the whole month in order as you can appreciate these last shows even more. How far they came on the new songs and how tight, relaxed, on top of things. Basically they started back at Port Chester with a whole new/old GD; balls out shoot em up bar band with a whole slew of new material that totally fit their new motif!
    At first it could be manic, sloppy, etc, but by keeping it basic and literally pounding it out on the road (like over 20 shows in 25 days) by the end of the run in NY they had this new MO down!
    By the end I don’t think they sound tired as much they just seem extremely comfortable, like anyone on top of their game. There in NY for a week with all the grueling travel behind them, they’ve paid their dues and got shit happening, just need to relax, enjoy, and roll some tape...
    I’m sure some of the vibe was due to tape rolling. Tapes not cheap so you can tell their playing to the tape somewhat, but in a good way...and how sweet to throw in all those old chestnuts for the hip NY crowd.
    I won’t say 71 has become a “favorite” year, but I’m gaining a much greater appreciation after spending this wonderful time getting better acquainted. Or reacquainted as S&R was on constant rotation during my formative years.
    Definitely will be checking out more 71 than just the occasional spin from something later in the year.

    4/22/83: that was a nice change up in the midst of all that 71, another solid off the beaten path show we can check off the list. Spring 83 can be a little inconsistent, but this show seemed pretty together and enjoyable.

    Did 6/22/73 yesterday since I haven’t received 38 yet but wanted a little of the 73 magic. Still feel like a stranger with this box. Someday I’ll get the right time/space and binge out and get right with it. Still blows my mind that Box has not sold out? Maybe I’ll continue on with that today?

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    Put on 4/29/71 last night, my own transfer from the Nth Generation Maxell I've had for thirty years... it actually wasn't too far along the tree... At first I thought maybe I'd forgotten to adjust the speed! lol. Mello~w start, so I thought maybe I should broaden my horizons and go check out 4/28 first. Man, this show is su~per relaxed, too. Was someone saying something about these shows being at the end of a long run... I mean, all I gotta do is look at the dates to see that, I guess.

    Whoever was praising the recording (everyone!), truly unbelievable. It is weird how even <EDIT><<audience>> soundboard <EDIT> tapes can vary so much from night to night. I don't know who hit record on this, but I'd imagine Betty and Bob, for example, were experimenting with different approaches from night to night nearly as much as the band. Whoever it was , nailed it on this one! As much a die-hard audience tape fan as I am, I still love these early 70's boards where everyone is still so young, and giddy, and enjoyin' the hell out of it. You get to hear completely off mic things like an incredibly casual, "Whaddaya wanna do man?" before they settle on the next tune. The on-mic stage banter in this period is all gold. "How 'bout makin' this microphone work most of the time?" In fact, that may be what makes '71 so endearing to me, even more than the music. Just hearin'em talk so unselfconciously... or just hearing Jerry talk at all!

    I like that Bobby is really clear in the mix, too. The guitars are separated nicely so that even at roughly the same level, they can both be made out. Bobby's always busy doin' his Bobby shix and it's a joy to hear it in this recording.

    I do not think I have ever heard The Rub before. Wow. Thank you!

    King Bee workin' the transmission till the motor won't run no more!.

    It was getting late, but on a piece of paper next to my computer I simply wrote, "Hard to Handle", and that seems to sum it up.

    Oddly getting a little lost during the opening Cryptical, but regardless, major applause for tracking Cryptical, Drums, and The Other One as piece! I love that. I'd like to see more shows tracked that way. I've said it before, and no doubt I'll say it again. I know it doesn't matter when your streaming... actually it does matter when you're streaming, 'cause there's a short pause between every single track, and when you've got Song > Jam > Different Jam > Drums > Back Into That First Song, that's a lot of baited breath. I also like that someone is still adding the "In a circle" to the refrain at this point. I don't think that lasts much longer, or maybe it's just normally inaudible to the audience. Man, I've been workin' non-stop lately, I could not stay awake another second. Gotta start over from there, 'cause it appears things are about to really get off the hook.

    RE: Three points of contact. Best to have two good buddies holdin' onta ya like you've got a couple broken legs. :P

    Re: Streaming from The Archive. Good question. I don't have any facts for you, but I've got a truckload of speculation. It seems unlikely that the streams would be lossless. It takes, like 30 or 40 minutes just to download a 16bit 44.1Hz zip, but, now that I think of it, each track takes quite a while to cache. On my connection, it's usually impossible to scrub forward until I've heard the whole song at least once. The 24 bit 96Hz shows, though, they can't be streaming at that quality, but there is no noticeable difference loading for playback.

    I used to go for those hi-res shows, but they take so damn long to DL, and I have to downsample'em to get'em on my ipod anyway... which is where I listen to most of my music these days since I've started commuting a couple hours a day. Just installed an Onkyo music player that plays FLAC and any bit/sample rate you can think of, though. Not sure what the DAC on my ancient phone is all about, though, but at least I don't have to go through the whole conversion and library addition thing. I'm obsessive, but not compulsive. If I'm gonna put the show in my iTunes library, I'm gonna hafta do all the data entry, too. On the other hand, if I've got a FLAC player in my pocket, then I'll just put "Today's drive to work and back" show in and not worry about it.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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In process and it has been a while. Sound quality from my perspective is somewhat lacking. Love the Dupree's, It's all over now, good Passenger, Brown Eyed Women. Just finished Eyes, really good. Again, wish the sound quality was better.

Thanks Bolo and Mary!

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Disc one is fun (it's a mix of several shows, me remembers...CR&S is always welcome)
Disc two is sublime. Eyes, Playin' > Wheel > Playin'. I do notice some sound quality issues at times, but they are not horrific and permanent. I remember the Playin' is good as always, and then gets reeeeeeally good
Disc three is phenomenal. As I listened recently, I remember smiling at the glory of the show. Scarlet > Fire, Truckin' > The Other One > Wharf > Around

the Madison show took place about 50 miles north of where l lived at the time. but since I was in 8th grade, I had no clue or awareness of that fact.

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One of my favorites Scarlet>Fire's of all time.... Also love the Samson when after a prolong opening jam Weir does the woohoo type of shout out!! I've posted about the Scarlet>Fire before but there is a Jerry Keith chord interaction after the singing in Scarlet that for me is mind melting!!! Good first choice Bolo... One last ramble, for me this show 2/5/78 is in my mind is the last show of 77... The April tour after this has a different vibe..

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....listened to the first disc last night. Cold Rain, All Over Now, Duprees and BE Woman all top shelf renditions. Man. Iowa got all the good shows. Will start up disc two a little later.
Thats the show with the extended Samson due to Bob's mic difficulties, correct?

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A few momentous stand outs for me: The Music Never Stopped; this version easily made it onto a "best of" compilation early on and has never been supplanted. Fight me. Also, the Estimated > Eyes of so so good. Beautiful elongated Eyes intro, then just mad jamming all the way through, nice upbeat Eyes tempo. Great exploratory Estimated as well. I love the drop into Eyes here; expertly pulled off. The Scarlet > Fire is very awesome too. Long, jammy. Nothing new here, just adding my love.

Nice idea.
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The first thing I noticed is that it features two nights, but unless I am looking in the wrong place, there is no indication which nights which songs are from. I could have checked in Deadbase...but that's upstairs and as I was settled down to listen I didn't bother. It looks like one first and two second sets.

I have just played the first cd so far. Coming from Europe 72, this sounds a lot simpler rhythmically. During Spring 72, you can focus on Bill, Phil, Bob, or Keith - as well as Jerry obviously-and they are all playing with energy and imagination. Here, the focus is more just on Jerry. I like his fiery guitar sound on here, but I am not as keen on Bob's sound. Donna, on the other hand, sounds nice on Looks Like Rain. I prefer this version of Good Lovin to the ones played in 72. It sounds almost calypso-a real celebratory sound.
The cd picks up pace nicely on the last three songs, with great guitar solos from Jerry. It seems a bit more like standard "rock" in a way, compared to the swing they had with one drummer and a fully functioning Keith. I enjoyed listening to it, but I will probably leave the first of the set 2s for tomorrow.

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Not much left to say LLR crackled like a thundercloud!

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....Jerry fresh off his laryngitis. The crackling in his voice during Wharf Rat proves it. His voice was never the same, but still rocks my soul.
Trey Pistachio dropped another song. "Are You There Colleen?". With a message of getting off drugs. Methinks Colleen was his dealer back in the day. Might be wrong. Never right.
I had a dealer back in the day. Name was Chill. Called him from payphones. That was a long time ago though. Thank God.

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At the start of 1978 I'd sort of lost interest in the Dead, having last seen them in 74. 78 was my fifth year in college (yeah I know) and I was way more into jazz than rock in large part due to an awesome jazz club on campus, the Backdoor. The place just had a constant stream of major talent coming through. McCoy Tyner, Charlie Mingus, Elvin Jones, Roland Kirk etc. So in early January I see the Dead are gonna be at Golden Hall so my girlfriend and I say "What the hell?" and I get tickets for 1/07. Now in 78 the Dead were not that big of a draw and I wasn't expecting much, sort of a nostalgia trip. Wrong. They were great, just awesome. So after the show we immediately get tickets for 1/08. These were the Bobby songs only nights but that didn't matter a bit. My girlfriend (now my wife) cried during Looks Like Rain. We were back on the bus until 85 when the arrival of our first kid changed everything. Footnote to that is our last show was a week before his birth and she was major prego and treated like royalty by all you wonderful heads. So I love DP 18 and I especially like the Eugene show release. Stay home.

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Nice! I'm overdue for a listen.

RE: DP18, agree with Jim - Brown-Eyed Women is PERFECT! For that matter, so is TMNS - powerful! And then there's disc 3. If I had to rescue only one single disc from my burning house, this one would be in the running. That Scarlet/Fire is a half-hour blissfest, Truckin' is solid, TOO is insanely good. Masterful music!

On to Wichita!

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....has metal influences. Garcia tapping into his inner Iommi. My ear told me so.
Wichita this soon into the game? Bold move Cotton. Let's see how it pans out.

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Love the Dodge Ball reference!!

funny how they didn't list out what shows the songs are from. even funnier, the songs in Disc 1 are actually from 3 shows - Its All Over Now and Duprees are from 2/4/78 Milwaukee! The Wikipedia entry for DP 18 lays it out if you're interested. Deadbase IX also lists a soundcheck of Ripple x3 in Milwaukee - what the heck is that??!!

As others have noted, among many highlights a great Music Never Stopped and Eyes of the World from 2/3 - love the super long intro to Eyes, it reminds me of a post-hiatus favorite, 6/8/77. They Love Each Other is fantastic. The 2nd set from 2/5 is just wild. Such a raw sound to the Wolf! Would love to see released the Uptown shows that immediately proceed this. Worth noting how rare The Wheel was at this time - 2/3 was first time played since mid fall '77, another year until played again on 2/17/79 (Keith & Donna's last show), and then another year and a half before it finally re-entered regular rotation.

A couple technical notes - based on Dick's Caveat Emptor, 2/3 appears to have been recorded at a slower tape speed (7.5 ips vs. 15), and so the sound quality is a bit rougher. Also, IIRC, there is an unpatched gap (sad face) in the jam between verses 2 and 3 in Eyes of the World. There's a very nice audience of 2/3 on the Archive if anyone wants to hear that.

Now on to Wichita!!

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After listening to almost 4 hours of insanely wonderful music, the overriding conclusion is that, in my opinion, NO ONE can play guitar like Garcia did. At times subtle and nuanced, at other times raging, but always just exactly perfect within the context of the song they were playing. Remarkable, really. Feeling blessed to have experienced GD/JGB live so many times.

Garcia may not be the "best" guitarist (highly subjective, as most of those inane "best of" polls demonstrate), but he is the only guitarist I can listen to every day. That includes Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Gilmore and whoever else you want to throw in there.

It's grate to be a Deadhead!!

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You're a harsh taskmaster! Listening to Grateful Dead concerts will continue until morale improves.

Bluecrow - thanks for the tip. There were a couple of compilations that came out in the 1990s that featured songs from multiple shows, but didn't indicate in the sleeve notes which song came from which show. Ladies and Gentlemen from April 1971 and Dozin' at the Knick from Spring 1990 were two others.

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Agree 100% with your comments on Jerry, what a genius! The whole band was.

Just finishing up Dave's 11 now. Comments to follow.

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Dooo, just listened to that last week, for first time, so maybe we’ll sneak another round in after this 71 grease fest we’ve got going on today .....fall 72 is def fo shizzle....

EDIt: MHAMMOND12...whoa. I’m not sure what’s more impressive, seeing the laryngitis shows or all that top shelf jazz in a club setting???

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Dicks picks vol 21 , not the main show the extras , Iko iko > morning dew > sugar magnolia . Absolutely sublime , and without doubt one of the best dew’s 😸

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I shouldn't really call the Backdoor a club. It was an empty room on the ground floor of the Student Union and Performing Arts building on campus that the A.S. booking people converted into a small concert venue. Just a stage and corked walls. No seats. No refreshments. Bring your own. The talent that appeared there was unbelievable looking back. Freddie King. John Lee Hooker. Two memories...sitting under McCoy Tyner and watching his right sock working its way down past his ankle has he stomped his foot keeping constant time...Roland Kirk playing the flute with his nose, playing three saxophones at once, playing the piano with his elbows and head, and careening around the room playing saxophone being led by his handler (Rahsaan was blind you know) who had an air raid siren he would blow off in your face if you didn't get out of the way fast enough. And none of this seemed like a gimmick. Bright moments indeed.

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This show and bonus tracks from Oklahoma City is definitely top stuff. Sound quality is A+. A great Bear recording! Man, he did great work.
The whole show flows nicely, although not a long second set. Love the Sugaree, Bird Song is awesome, Jack Straw, Box of Rain! Come on. Casey Jones to close the first set and than open with Cumberland. Great Truckin Other One, very unique Other One. Always loved Brokedown Palace and this one they play flawlessly.

I will throw out 12/28/79 Road Trips 3.1??

Let me know Gents.

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I like the post-space UJB and Bertha on that one a lot mainly for Brent's harmonies. Overall a classic pick with a lot to like. I might give DP5 (12/26/79) the edge however. That pick is hefty.

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Listened to both Dave Picks 11, 11/17/72, and Europe 72, 04/07/72, as assigned by Bolo. Dave's Picks 11 is one of my favorite releases. Great recording by Owsley improved by the treatment of Mr. Norman. Has an incredible Bird Song. Just a wonderful release.

Europe 72, 04/07/72 Wembley just blows it away. Leaves a smoking crater where Wichita used to be. Europe 72 can not be bettered.

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This one has a nice slow relaxed build up with some ripping Jerry. TOO than blows the roof off! The only TOO>Brokedown Palace. End of set 2 all great. A perfect prelude to the next to nights.

ps. 4/7 Rips the paint off the walls from the first note. No contest.

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Okay Bolo, what are your thoughts?
Next show for today?

I suggested 12/28/79. RT3.1

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I’m down, right after my John Prine compilation

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I relocated last week and since that time I have been unpacking as much as I can and maintaining my workload from home. So I have been out of commission here for a while. I came across this pick of the day and I am all for it.

Just to throw a show out there ( not for today) but how about 9/8/73? I have never heard it but Dick Latvala spoke highly of it. It might be nice to give it a listen.

Meanwhile it looks RT 3.1 will it be for today. Maybe I will add 4/8/72 as well.

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Nice - been a while since that one hit my headphones.

MHammond gets a gold star. But what did you listen to AFTER lunch?

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I was at this show, it was a blast! Sugaree, High Time, The Music Never Stopped, this show was great from start to finish. This show sounds so much better then Dave's Picks 31 from just a .sound point of view. Yeah, this show was a hell of a lot of fun!

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Sugaree lovely, the rest of the set is okay Music rocks! Set 2 Alabama grooving, GSET explosive!, Terrapin super sweet jam, PITB end jam is sick!, UJB outta drums/space yes!, short Miracle, Bertha>Good Love, CJ , OMSN rockin!

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....on it. (I'm the tour buddy still in the car doing bong rips as y'all are heading to the gate.)

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1983/09/10
Santa Fe Downs. Give me this. But for Friday. I'm working tomorrow, but off Friday.
I've stood at Santa Fe Downs and looked east. The view is spectacular.
Whats all the hubbub, bub?
It's got a Music opener and a Cold Rain encore. Warts and all.
Things are strange outside. Bird Songs all day.
edit. Found something!!
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/grateful-dead-jerry-garcia-favourite-song/
Spoiler alert. Row Jimmy. Also a favorite of Bill The Drummer. It was playing as I read it (12.28.79. Disc one. Track four).
I still don't believe in coincidences.

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DaP11: Last half of disc two - the whole He’s Gone thru BDP is incredible

Just starting RT3.1 now , if the first song is any indication of this night, I’m in for something special!

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Hendrix Freak threw this one out a couple days ago but yall were onto something else.....it got me thinking about some primal dead, and haven’t had a good 68 fix for a bit....So Wadaya say Laddys?

MHammond: RT 3.1, nice pick. Started to go through the 79 stuff when DaP 31 came out but didn’t make it, rember liking this one more than 31, and yesterday confirmed that. Really need to get to DP 5 from 12/26, it’s been so long for that one. Maybe this weekend I’ll roll that?

VGUY: I’m down with some Santa Fe tomorrow. Heard about this one for years but don’t think I’ve ever checked it out. Plus 83 would be a nice change up here....

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12/28/79! Is this the best RT release? Maybe, certainly the best 79 release from the Vault so far. Betty did another excellent job here.
I like this release more and more every time I listen to it. Sound quality is A+.Sugaree opener! Different feel to this show without Keith and Donna, but I dig it. Brent's keyboards really shine. Really good flowing Terrapin, Playing, UJB. The show closers are fun and groovy. Makes me want to get up and dance.
And then there is the bonus disc, from 12/30/79. 10 additional songs of bliss. Scarlet Fire, Let it Grow, Truckin! Sweet.

Would love to see more 79 and of course 80. The early Brent years! I know the Chicago release didn't match this release but 79 has a lot to offer.
Yesterday I also listened to 9/1/79. Not an official release, but again great 79 sound.
If you have not heard it, check it out.

Looking forward to our next pick. Let us know!

I can't take credit for that pick. I'm trying the Europe 72 night by night thing and I'm already behind.

Playing now.
Is that today’s pick?

First got this on cassette in mid-90’s and loved it right away. Then got a CD-R copy. Was really happy to get it as a commercially released CD.

This show needs a Plangentized/Normanized remaster 180g vinyl record store day release.

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Looks like I’m a day behind. No worries, I’ll catch up.

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Good to have you kid.

Bolo, what are your thoughts on the last pick. Sounds like the crowd is feeling Dick's 22 for today/ tonight. I will have to sit this one out as I don't have this one. Looking forward to tomorrow's choice.
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