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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #2331
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    You are kind soul.. I appreciate all you provide here. Same goes to Oro. I think it would take a face to face to catch me up on all the technology (old or new) that the two of you bring for me to truly understand. As for old.. and I am sure you both know.. in either late 73 or early 74 (I think 73).. the GD got into a scuffle with DOD over equipment they were ordering that was desperately needed for national security. Apparently, the Macintosh amps they were buying in unprecedented numbers were needed both in general and more specifically by special, top secret subs that needed the clean sound and amplification to either detect enemy interference or better hear and make stealth the noise they were making. So they called the GD and tried to work out a way to either stall, postpone or barter a purchasing arrangement that would not jeopardize national security.

    I think this is well known, and I apologize in advance for going on memory and surely confusing some of the information listed above as fact. ..but what is written is pretty close, if someone can clarify and correct it would not offend me in the least.

    Hope I didn't write anything that was incorrect or in any way interpreted as insulting or offensive.

    As for chainsaws and sawzaws to clear way for our living room WOS.. what could possibly be more fun.

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    Ah the sounds of my earliest fun dentist. "You dont need no gas!"

    All my stereo stuff is old, always fussy. Running all old Yamaha into JBL (plus svs). Trying to get stuff cleaned and parts replaced. When it is on, it is quite the stereo indeed. I have an old yamaha eq that I hooked up when Dave's first show was released. Goes into Pre amp, then to a yamaha mx-830. The MX-830 is powering 4 jbl g300's and 2 jbl LX 600's. Running 6 speakers means the amp is running at 550 watts at 2 ohms. It cooks. The speakers all have same tweeters and mid ranges. The 300s run 8" woofers and the 600s have 10 inch woofers. It is old but as you say "in budget." Smile.

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    Then the svs has a 550 watt continous, 850 watt peak sledge. The svs I picked up a few years back for $399. I had to have a sub with an internal crossover. So out of preamp to svs (rca cables), then back into the preamp, then to amp. Having old yamaha means older connection points. Modern amps control the crossover themself and pump sub out already crossed over. I happen to run my internal sub amp at a cutoff of 82 hz. George Lucas uses 80 hz crossover in his THX sound systems. So I am slightly above that. I did some sampling of the room using the preamp features.

    G

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    Do you have any '74 Dijon?

    Neanderthal's use chain saws.. a sophisticated audiophile attacks their living rooms delicately with a sawzaw.

    I'm totally jealous.. I am blasting with my 20 year old Denon, similar age speakers with no intents on upgrading anytime soon. Budgets be budgets..

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    Can you imagine writing the real equipment book? With the constant upgrading of the system, that book would be multiple enormous volumes. Hope the Meyers have logged a lot of their research.

    No 18's here. Of course not needed.

    Back last year, Oro, you asked if I was running multiple subs. I am not. I have a 12" SVS Systems sub with built in Sledge D amp. It is like the rabbit, it is a thumper. Goes down to 13 or 15hz, so below the 20hz of human hearing. That is, if all memories about frequency response are still good. Starting to get the old enough to question my own thoughts at times.

    I am still hoping for the day when we can listen to WoS through a system that takes us to the "Fare the Well" P.A.. Would have to be software based, but I look at it like 4K upcoding an HDTV signal.

    Wow, FTW PA is now 7 years ago. Bet the Meyers' have gone way beyond that. I almost applied for a job at Meyer 7 years ago. Was in my career field. POTHead.

    That 2015 system had multiple flying 18's. It also had a load balancing system. This was done by having 2 systems, intake and outake. That is, they had 100 microphones throughout the stadium to push into the analytics software. Of course, the output systems was not connected except thru analytics, to the input system to avoid feedback. Brilliant. The analytic input system could then be used to balance the PA by section of the of the stadium.

    Sorry for interruption but I wanted find the article on pro sound web about 2015 FTW PA.

    I did actually find it, but not by searching pro sound web, but by searching internet at large and it found it on the pro sound web site, even though pro sound web could not find it in its own search.

    Let me know, maybe I can send lynk thru PM here, not sure if they cut that off.

    Any way need to do a little work after lunch. I mean a little work.

    G

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    That’s what chain saws are for!

    Gary, I think besides trying to keep up with Garcia, Phil was using that big system on stage to help fill in those near field areas (up front etc) we were discussing, the areas that didn’t get proper coverage from the PA?
    What some refer to as the Phil Zone, though to me that’s was where both his stage sound and the PA sound merged and acoustically coupled.
    But yeah, My spine tingles and can still feel rather than hear those sub frequencies in my DNA. (By sub I mean below the threshold of hearing, not a subwoofer). Those Meyers 18”s in the PA were ridiculous in the right spot, in the right venue etc.
    Plus, it’s the Grateful Fucking Dead so why not go big!

    PS, that Grateful Dead gear book is great, though a little dialed down.

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    I want what Phil's having...

    Home version. 18"'s and 4"'s. If I move some things around, they should fit.

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    thanks for the write-up, input. Need a little time to read again and ponder. Think again we are speaking the same language but as 90% of communication is non verbal, some times the written language let's us down.

    It seems I have the dead's equipment book, need to track that down. Not necessarily for this discussion but just to find it again...

    Should have figured Phil would use Meyer systems. Using 18's onstage, wow!

    Hope all well your way!

    G

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    As of late 82 or early 83 Phil was using 4 Meyers cabinets: (4 -18”, 4 -15”), 2 per cabinet powered by custom PIE amps, until they started not using speakers on stage in 92. (Which I didn’t like).

    Not sure I get all what your saying? I agree that Soundboards do not sound natural for many reasons.
    Perhaps your referring to the phenomena of Microphones not having frequency response to accurately record bass waves combing sub sonic frequencies at those kind of SPL levels?
    Mic location can also make a big difference and was partly why Dan started the tapers section. Unless you have the right knowledge and equipment chances are a recording made too close will mot sound good.
    Plus you have the physics: the lower the frequency, the longer the sound wave. If your too close you’ll not hear the fully formed bass note etc.
    In fact if your too close much of the PA sound will blow right by you. You’ll also not properly experience stereo imaging. That’s why usually, the sound board or just before it was THE place to be. It was a trade off going up front: yeah you were up close and could see and hear their stage sound, but the PA mix was so above and beyond you that you missed a lot of info. Eventually they added little Meyers boxes, usually sitting on the front of the stage to add some vocals etc for those up close.
    Nothing comes for free! Personally, like Bear, I didn’t like the stereo set up because of this. Unless you were in the right spot, you missed a lot of info, especially if you were sitting on the side!
    This was the main reason Reserved seating sucked: nobody could sit where they wanted so if you were a sound nut like us, you often had to endure less than perfect sound/mixes.

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    I listened to 1988-10-15. Once Friday, Second Saturday. Two different sources although both said the Ultramatrix board, the first was much muddier than the second. Best highlight was the deep garbled voices toward the end of drums. Really bizarre, and reminds me of garbled voices during latter Star Wars during broken transmissions, and reminds me of the fellas ties to Lucas, the lightgiver.

    I was very disappointed in both versions as the show is missing a whole lot of data/music. What I mean by this is, I am wondering if there is fallout from the phil zone? I am positing that as the Phil Zone expanded, Healy lost control of the overall sound. If memory serves at some point it seems I remember maybe Phil using 18" woofers onstage. For sure he was using 15's (plus 12's and 10's). Now I loved my bit of time I spent in the Phil zone, but generally when I got up close, it was Jerry side. As Phil blasts his horn, this means Healy had to bring Phil down in the overall P.A. mix. In my humble opinion, I believe this led to the bad tape sound, lots of data/music missing. When I focus my ears, I can tell that much of the overall lower sound waves are missing or nonexistent. Even worse, the frequencies that are there are very muddled and indiscernible.

    Now as a way to test my theory, I listened to 1988-03-27, Hampton. Another group of shows I saw in 1988. I did see 8 Dead shows there and fully know the quality of the sound that can be obtained within the mothership. (Also saw the shows that make up "Hampton Comes Alive..") When I listened to March 27, the sound is very good. However, although not as bad a St.Pete, there is again a large amount of data/music missing as well. The imaging is excellent but that is because the imaging comes from the higher frequencies. Bass frequencies are much more omni- directional, whereas high frequencies are unidirectional. (Want to press on these concepts furthur, later on. I want to go back to some discussions back in October regarding HDCD.) If my hypothesis is correct, then the tape anomalies concerning extremely muddled low frequencies will test out thru other 1988 shows. Had not heard or noticed this until this past weekend. So for St. Pete, it not only causes Phil to be muddled (deep booming bass with no clarity to individual notes played), it also means some muddleness from other players/instruments. I believe this may be the reason why 1988 recordings may all need matrix recording.

    Just one man's opinion, would like to know what others thought.

    Both Hampton and St. Pete were excellent shows when you factor other aspects than just the quality of the reproduced sound on tape. One reason I love the later shows is because the P.A. quality produces a much more full bodied, across frequencies, sound than do earlier performances. Early performances are fire from perfomance, latter shows have more depth and clarity in the frequency spectrum, hence DaP#40.

    Ok enough for now.

    G

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    I was there.. It was so hot at the start of the show... Close to 100... Really enjoyed the long scarlet>fire popping up in the 4th slot.... Drove straight to Louisville after the show... why oh why.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by bluecrow on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 10:59

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Beautiful sunshine morning, fresh brewed coffee, and DaP 24, with its extra dose of Phil. Love this show, one of my favorite releases in the Dave's series. Can't wait for other shows in the run to be released.

So many excellent picks suggested in this thread. Thank you! A lot of them outside my general rotation, maybe years since last solid listen, and its been super fun to rediscover, or in some cases, finally really actually "get it". I'm sort of freestyling through, hopping and skipping - if not able to listen right away, then mental note to follow up. Listened to Disc 3 on DaP 3 yesterday, with that first Keith Dark Star and man was that a sweet journey to lose oneself in. That whole release shines. DaP 8 '80 Fox is def in the queue, maybe later today.

As some fellow travelers have noted, that first night at Alpine '87 was something else. I wasn't sure what the freaking heck was happening when suddenly all sorts of crazy jungle sounds were pouring out of the speakers during that jam out of Eyes. And yea, that Watchtower, completely and totally unexpected for most of us, was one of the more hair raising musical moments I ever experienced. Wowza. As to Alpine '88, for me it comes down to that final night, with that first Believe it or Not and the aura-shooting-out-of-the-top-of-your-head Morning Dew (10th row (?) in front of Jerry for that wonderful spiritual spirit-filled night.) Yes, it was on GD Hour that Healy's back and forth panning of the board tapes from that show was discussed. I know he did it for the first night of the run also. Doesn't bother me much but ultimately you have to wonder what the heck he thought he was doing. My word-on-the-street understanding was that the ultramatrix boards Healy made at Alpine in '87 were unlistenable. Love to to find out otherwise. His boards during the spring tour seem to have been hit and miss.

Thanks everybody for all the fun and musical goodness served up here. An oasis of good vibes during a dark and difficult time. Stay safe and healthy everyone.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 11:26

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It is very weird how the Healy ultramatrix recordings or what is in the vault from '87 mostly spring tour don't sound that good and the Don Person ultramatrix recordings sound great. C.M. says the recordings were made on the same kind of cassette deck but his sound better.

Fun post & nice to Meet Ya!

I agree about the Thread, it's been a real nice Alternate reality.

DaP 24 & DaP 3 have been great listens for sure. There's magic in them there tapes.

And thanks for the Alpine stories.. it's fun to hear other travelers feedback on that first night in '87, it wasn't just a dream! Good times.

Thanks for the input on the tapes, I figured if they haven't come out yet, they probably aren't listenable. I know experimentation was a thing, but I wish it wouldn't have been '87 that all that UltraMatrix experimentation was happening. Those were magic shows and to have clean boards of some of those... alas.

Yeah Morning Dew '88 and then we got that BlackBird encore that was nice, real nice. A lot of new songs during those 4 shows.

Good Stuff!

JIMINMD - Alpine memories made you flash! write it down..

9/3/72 Folsom Field is getting a dust off over here and SBD has got issues, but is also pretty cool so far:) PITB coming up after some Godchaux introductions.. gonna listen

Thanks all.. and what else are you gonna listen to this weekend?

For sure the Don Pearson Upgrades are the best sounding yet. There were some good Joani Walker cassette masters too.

I'd love to know more about both those players. Sounded like Joani met Healy and was running the Cassette taping for awhile there, and Don Pearson was part of the crew.

So yeah, who's got the scoop on all that?

Jesse Jarnow are you writing a book on Taper's? That would be cool.. especially if it was like Heads!

Fun to think about. BTW 9/3/72 PITB is DOPE! (sounds a little rough, but not as bad as some of the UltraMatrix we be talking about)

EDIT: Oh and with the Spring Matrix, Healy was going way heavy with the ambient mic making them sound like Audience recordings, I believe is the big diff.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 12:15

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Right? That's been happening a lot lately.. Dead magic ;)

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 14:57

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Skipped the 80 show for now to do 4/24/72 yesterday. But need to check that out ASAP. Oh, of course had mind properly blown by 4/24/72....listened to most of disc three three times!

9/10/91: not sure if I got a round to this one before, but it’s going in regular rotation now! Listened to second set twice! Jinxees Shaggy that was awesome! Great choice!

Doing 8/25/72 now. Haven’t heard this one much either? Mostly when it came out. So much dead, so little time etc. need to spend more time with this one...

DaP 3: yeah that DS sequence is a real Bobbie Dazzler!

4WINDS/87 UM: interesting!...haven’t dived deep, but had similar thoughts on the Pearson recordings...that’s the dream catcher I was referencing days back: could there be useable Pearson tapes or some possible combo that might provide something? useable..

Don Pearson: .FYI for whomever ever asked. Don was with Ultra Sound, the Dead’s PA company supplied/supported by Meyers Sound etc. Don, and Howard and a few others were like regular crew guys with the Dead but working for the PA company or something along those lines. Don had Black hair and a mustache (I think?, so long ago..,) and could be seen hanging at the board working in conjunction with Healy...

SHOWS ATTENDED: yeah, setting that up was fun, but beyond convoluted...luckily I did that years ago at a job that I couldn’t get started on...so at least I got paid to do it, lol.

6/30/86: great first show! Always have felt this was a top tier attended show. Think I ate a whole garden of veggies that tour, and that night, phheewwww, remember the barge and river boats that came at exactly the right moments, like it was orchestrated, during Big River, then Ship of Fools, whhhoooaaa, still freaks me out! One of the few times I got good seats from GDTS, I think only indoor Amp tix? Just to the right of right isle, about 15 rows back, sweet!

ALPINE: there 86, 87, and 2 outta 3 in 89. Don’t remember anything about 86 except camping in that sweet lot next lot over in the shade next to the trees, and that we got way the fug out at those shows...like I say that whole tour, hell that whole year is a real blur. 87 it was too hot, crowded, and all that MTV/TOG phenomenon was in full swing so good shows but didn’t dig the scene like 86. 89 is a whole legend unto itself...

Yeah, 8/25/72....need to get better acquainted with this one..”oooo, water bong so smoooooth!” name that quote?

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Submitted by Oroborous on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 18:10

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Shoot chip, gonna have to do that disc 3 (at least) again later! That was like Dark Star sheet der mon!
But first: A little Frampton Comes Alive, assorted Clapton, and some Stones (needed to change it up so Lovey won’t knife me in my sleep)

Such a laid back show, and that stellar start with Cold Rain and Snow. Nice He's gone, Black Peter is really good. FOTD, boy did they change this up when they returned in 1976, I sometimes forget how different the early versions were. Bird is hot, Playing. Solid Truckin and great finish. Sound quality in this release is A+. Another release courtesy of ABCD LLC. Thanks gents.

What is on tap for tomorrow?

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 20:26

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....this He's Gone is something else. And that Cold Rain opener was 🔥. I agree with the Minnesotian.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 21:00

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....Black Peter Jack Straw.
Jerrys tone is dialed the fuck in. Keith is all over it on FOTD. You know, these guys are pretty good!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 21:27

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....and then; whoosh. The exits are here 👈, and here👉. In case you get scared. - GD flight attendant Donna Jean Godchaux. Pilot Jerry takes control at the 8:30 mark and assures the safety of his passengers. Co-pilot Phil bouncing bass bomb radar pings ahead. Hopefully we have enough parachutes. Dodging storm clouds. If the thunder don't getcha....
The sky clears at thirteen minutes. Haven't seen the sun in awhile.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 21:44

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Not really going on a limb here, but in honor of #34 coming soon, let's give 7/31/74 a run. Dave's Picks #2. I hear the bonus disc is also super good. I still have never heard it.

What do you think Vguy?

Would be interested in hearing all of your opinions on this release.

Be well.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 04/25/2020 - 21:58

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....lets check out that limb. Been a while.
Newsflash! No. Its not covid related. Phil solo at the 13:30 mark of Truckin'. All good. Aaaand he spills his bottom end splurge into a Spanish Lady. Way to go Philster!! 👏👏 Stud

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 04:50

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That Stella out of that E.T. space was nice!

On to summer 74. Scarlet's killing it out of the gate!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 06:38

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Almost a bookend indoor version of Veneta. Bird Song is as beautiful as it gets. 1972 versions are my favorite anyway. Interesting that Folsom Field was the following Dead concert after Oregon.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 06:39

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This ain't Kentucky Man... It's Berkeley!

Stellar Show, Top Tier in my opinion, especially after a focused re listen yesterday. (Two maybe Three-ish)

Not sure there’s much to add about the music based on what’s been said here already.

So I’ll just lay out some of the facts:
Last Show of a 4 Show run at the Berkeley Community Theater
First Hometown Shows since Europe ’72
Bear Recorded it (freshly released from prison)
Looks like it didn’t circulate in it’s entirety before it’s release in October 2017
(Incomplete in Dead Base through DB 50 Updates, Taper’s Compendium list only through El Paso)
Nice Bill Graham Introduction
1 of 7 Cold Rain & Snow openers in 1972
1 of 5 Black Peter in 1972
Bird Song candidate for best of ’72
PITB earns it’s place with the other greats of ’72
Truckin’ > The Other One is Epic!

Set 1
Closes with Bird Song (11:30), PITB (16:48) & Bertha (6:40) - Only Time Played in this Order (Credit: FOURWINDSBLOW)
35 minutes of completely wonderful music.
Those 3 songs alone are worth admission (and in that order, wow!).

Set 2
Opens with Truckin’ (16:02) > TOO (28:03)
44 minutes of completely wonderful music.
Upper echelon Truckin’ > TOO! The Jam from Truckin’ into TOO is worth serious exploration and Phil’s contributions up to the Spanish Lady, I could listen to that a lot and will.

There’s a few stumbles in Bertha made up for with some sick Jerry shredding @ end (as mentioned by all)
Stella is different…
This show is GREAT!

Under the radar likely due to two factors:
1. Lives in the Shadow of Veneta Oregon 8/27/72
2. Full Show didn’t circulate until 2017

I absolutely love this show, and will be listening to it much more often.

Really really really enjoyed this pick!!

Thanks for making me re listen, it’s my favorite pick here as of today:)

7/31/74 you say? Onward…

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 07:03

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Just starting to listen... and can you believe it, it is raining in Rhode Island!!! There also is another Dillon Stadium show from 7/16/72 that features some of the Allman Brothers.. and there is only one version on Internet Archive, I always forget about it when we are talking Watkins Glen or 6/9/73... enjoy your day everyone and be safe.. bob t

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 07:23

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Set 2 sounds real good!

ps. Bird, Playin, Bertha. Only time these song were played in that order.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 08:12

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Spent a good portion of yesterday afternoon on the front porch, drinking Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, doing some light reading, and soaking up my newly acquired DiP28. I made it all the way through the Nebraska show, and just that alone assured me that my money had been well spent. The "NFA>GDTRFB>NFA" to end it all is killer! GOGD, you were right about having some good listening ahead of me. I think I will try to sneak in the Salt Lake show today, but no porch sitting, as it's raining here in Baltimore... (isn't that a song from the 90s?)

Yesterday's BCT show was absolutely eye-opening. Again, I have no idea why it didn't click for me when it came out, or why I have neglected it for so long, but that is another top-tier pick for sure!

Just fired up DaP 2 (7/31/74) for today's listen. Another great pick, and another standout in the series. The bonus disc is my favorite of the series, and serves as a delicious and heady dessert to the Dillion show main course.

I hope everyone is safe and happy!

Peace

EDIT: Man, this "Me and My Uncle" is SWINGING, BABY!

Happy Indeed!

Haven't even looked outside yet.. but there is a light source out there:)

To distracted listening, reading and talking GD!

Yesterdays trip through 8/25/72 came in waves...
First Listen, Break and Exploration of 9/3/72 - Recommend checking out DiP V36 bonus material at least.. SICK!!!
Back to 8/25/72 this time outside in a sun break around 4:20.. new colors, shapes, textures appeared.
It began to stand out in totally different ways.. as it does!
Another listen to selected parts later in the evening as I dug into Taper's Compendium, Dead Base, interweb to find out more. Loved it all a new / old Favorite! Great Choice!

OTIS - Stoked for you man, them's some good tunes!

7/31/74 - China Cat > Sunflower sounds so good right now, Wall of Sound, Jerry riffing with Phil on lead up to IKYR, that jam they used to do right there, big smiles, heady stuff..

Another Fun Day in Dead Land!

PS - VGUY - I dug that article:)

Speaking of Billy
He's killing it all over the place on this WOS show.. his playing started to really grab my attention during S2 Big River, but then Eyes!! He's a monster, best year for Billy's playing? '72, '73 or '74.. dude is such a sick drummer.

And the separation between the instruments in this recording.. The crew and the band.. the things they did.

Wow!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 09:27

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"Row Jimmy" gets too much flak, IMO. I for one am always happy to see it on a set list, and this version is quite lovely. As was the "Roses", as is this whole dang first set.

Peace

Set One, down the hatch! Two more (and a bonus) to go!

Jerry liked it too, so do I.

All this talk about '73 makes me think of the first two shows.. 2/9 Maples Pavilion and 2/15 Dane County Coliseum.

I am quite sure we will another dose of '73 this year in one way shape or form. If not, 2021 will be 73 heavy.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 11:43

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Opening with "El Paso"... that's an interesting choice. I love this song, but I wonder if it ever opened a set before or again.

Set II - LOVED the "Big River" (Billy DOES kill it on the skins!) The "Eyes" was nice and juicy, and I loved the "China Doll" "Around and Around" "Ship of Fools" run. I'm noticing how many really strong ballads are in this show... Still have a "To Lay Me Down" to come too!

I know that I've said it recently, but I really like this new thread! It is fun to know that folks are listening to the same stuff - even if it might be at different times. Also, the overall attitude around these parts has been overwhelmingly positive, which I really appreciate.

Set III awaits as I prepare Sunday dinner (Beef Bourguignon - one of my personal faves!)

Peace

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 12:26

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I am! I am! I am! I am!

Seems so fitting.

I thoroughly enjoyed listening to that show.

Billy was an all-star throughout.. and his drums were big in the mix, which personally, is not a bad thing at all.

The Ballad's really shine:
IMHBTR, Row Jimmy, China Doll, Ship, TLMD.
Jerry's voice is so sweet.

If you get TLMD that's pretty much a good show IMO, but if you get TLMD and everything else in this show? Wow!

Too many highlights to list Three Sets worth!
But here's a few I remember:
Big River
Eyes
Loved WRS
Real nice Mind Left Body Jam
US Blues ('74 best year for that song?) - seems fitting
Uncle John's Band
All the Ballads

That was fun!

Gonna go read the reviews on Veneta '72 in the Taper's Compendium and listen to Dave's Picks 2012 Bonus Disc.
(Despite being out of date, the Taper's Compendium is still really cool and informative)

It's sunny out here, hope it's nice where you are, be well and enjoy the Dead!

OTIS - Rockin' Thread & Row Jimmy fo Sure!
JIMINMD - 2/9/73 Row Jimmy is my favorite all time version, first one I ever heard, and still my fave.

Keep on Rockin' You All!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 12:36

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....high of 90 today. Where are you at GOGD? Location?
7.31.74 later. Still have GarciaLive 13 to play. But, I need to disinfect and don my PPE. Gotta make a grocery store run. Current listening? Something Else by The Kinks. Spotify/Galaxy Phone/Pocket/Buds+.
RIP last roll of Cottenell. Onto Scott's. A distant second.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 12:44

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Bonus disc, Bonus disc, Bonus disc.

ps. Let me tell ya about the time we went to Kentucky in '93.

We left N. E. Pa. about 10 o'clock the night before four of us in a 1969 Buick Electra with a broken bench seat and a hole in the gas tank. Having to stop every hundred miles to get gas cause we could only fill to half and only me and the guy whose car we took had a license to drive. So half way through Ohio he ask me if I could drive I said sure so I got in the car now he was a bit taller than me so the broken bench seat was no problem for him. I on the other hand had to lift up to see over the door panel so we went on our way before too long everybody was asleep I just kept driving every time a car came passed they had to think there is nobody in this car until I lifted up and looked at them over the door panel that really must have been something to see. So we get to Freedom Hall finally and wouldn't you know it they book a "Wing Ding" convention on the same days as the shows. Honda Gold Wings as far as the eye could see it was funny and the guy who owned the Buick Electra was a real Harley guy he was loosing it all day having to look at all these Honda's. Show was okay couldn't get a room for a 50 mile radius so we slept at a rest area got up the next day and those guy's drop me and another guy off at the hall for night two they headed home. After the second night we hitch it to a camp ground and then to Deer Creek the next day.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 12:49

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Finally have a real solid chunk of "free" time.. what are we on, DaP 2? I'm half tempted to go back in time and pick one of the shows I missed.. DaP 2 will do. ahh.. 1974 the comfort food all things music, dovetails right into the Zen of bicycle maintenance and that's my afternoon in a nutshell.

...add to that some nice fresh roasted organic Ethiopian Sidama Shantawene Village coffee, full city ++, just exactly perfect.

VGUY - TIGHT Avatar today, just noticed... Jerry!

Portland, OREGON in the house!

Personally, I kinda like Scotts... less shed.

But yeah, going to the Grocery Store straight sucks these days (didn't like it before, like it way less now).

Put on that PPE, don't touch your face, be quick and Good Luck man!
Wash your hands when you're done.. cause you got some listening to do!!

Be Safe bro

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 13:07

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Epic!! Got to read that Tale from Summer ‘93 while listening to this sweet sweet Sugaree..

Do road stories ever get old?

I wonder if Jer knew how right he was when he said going on the road with the GD was the last chance for grand adventure in this new lame America.

Oops that’s kinda depressing... WRS to the rescue!!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 13:46

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...is the exact reason the Goddamn Grateful Dead are the best band to grace our lives. They're not only just the best at what they do, they're the ONLY ones that do what they do.

1974 : Of all the years combined, this one may be my favorite. Summer in particular was pure FIRE!

What's on-tap for Monday, folks?

Peace

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 13:50

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I had to look up that beef dish.
Looks pretty good in the pictures online.

Guess I’m lazy, I’m just doing a sirloin tip in a Dutch oven at 300 for a couple of hours.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 14:12

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It is an involved dish, but nothing too technical. In fact, after getting and prepping the ingredients, most of it is just letting it cook for a few hours, which gives a lot of time for "other" activities. That being said, it is not a weeknight/busy kinda meal. Also, avoid those recipes that call for too much - it's basically a beef stew with a lot of wine :)

That being said, your dinner sounds great too!

Now, on to that bonus disc. I see another "Truckin'" and Spanish Jam in my future, but this time, with a "He's Gone" and an "Other One" thrown in the mix. Oh, and that "Sugaree".... :)

Today has been a grand Sunday, thanks to you all!

Peace

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 14:21

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....kinda tough to do when the Dead keep stealing it. Ha!
Home safe. One thing about everyone wearing masks. Forces one to focus on people's eyes. Indeed, the eyes of the world.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 14:22

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Otis - Hold on to your hat!!!

There’s whole new worlds and galaxies of goodness contained within that disc.

I just got rocked.

Dare I say it’s better.. oh but terms such as better are useless when describing the Dead. It’s yet another cosmic voyage into the places the music takes us!

Been reading too much Dwork.. he’s a really good writer!

And your all’s cooking is making me realize I need some new recipes. Maybe that’s another thread we need to start ;)

Oh man, I’m excited to hear what you think.. I’m speechless.

So good!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 14:25

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Whoa Trippy!!

Eyes of the World 👀

So glad you made it!