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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #6591
    The Good Ole G…
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    Happy 4th of July!

    To me the Grateful Dead represent "American Values" that I cherish:
    Independence
    Intelligence
    Innovating
    Pioneering
    Supportive
    Kind

    Helping to Move the entire Human Race Forward a few steps, outside of Mainstream America, with a certain amount of Outlaw bravado in order to provide Joy.

    I won't pontificate on what is actually happening in America right now, but will focus on the Grateful Dead. Because to me they are the American Dream. Some guys from San Francisco that worked real hard at what they wanted to do because nobody else was doing it, and they knew it needed to be done and it was fun and it brought Joy to a whole lot of people who otherwise weren't getting any.

    And now some 55 years later, and more than 25 years since the band stopped playing, they're still bringing joy to people who otherwise aren't getting any.

    That's commendable, I wish there were more instances of that in our history, I can think of none.
    (probably could, but this post is already longer than planned and I hadn't even meant to go here.. I was just gonna say Happy 4th.)

    Anywho... Nice call WTJ on 7/4/81 that's some tight Jams. You had me at Stranger, Bird Song > PITB for Set 2 opener. FYI for the listener, parts of SBD are missing, but some of them there parts are floating around from Taper's Section: Minglewood, China > Rider from Set 1. That being said there's a real nice Audience recording as well.
    EDIT: As Bobby says One More 4th Of July, So Everybody Can Get High!

    DEADVIKES: 7/4/89 you say?
    I'll try and watch that there show at some point this fine holiday.
    You should def check out 5/13/78 some time, dug that as well as 5/14/78 which was killer diller.

    I'ma gonna try and check out 7/4/87 today too and listen to Bob Dylan slur and slash his way through songs he doesn't remember how to play just cuz.. America!

    And yesterday "We" (I?) was checking out 9/21/72 which is a must relisten and if nobody got to it, now is a great time. Epic (like 5 stars) Bird Song, China > Rider, PITB, Dark Star > Morning Dew. That shit is off the proverbial hook.

    Makes for perfect bike riding tunes. Or grilling, drinking, smoking, whatever it is you do while listening.

    But alas, it was buried in a long and drawn out post yesterday, not unlike this one.

    Alrighty then.
    Be Well, Be Safe, Use Your Head, Ignore Alien Orders.

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    That Deal f'ing rips. I was just listening to it yesterday by chance.

    Have a safe and sane Fourth everyone... :-)

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    Good show. Not much Phil in the recording but tight performance with an interesting setlist.

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    Thanks man, I am glad that 5/14/78 hit the spot. And I agree it is a great show. Always like to be surprised by shows and this one did it. ..

    What is on tap for today??

    Hope we can consider 7/4/89 for tomorrow, but just a suggestion.

    Be well all and everybody hang loose.

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    I think I actually got the notion to listen to it from Jim.

    7/6/87 and set II from 7/8/87 were nice for me today. Last night 7/2/71 was real nice.

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    That’s Awesome! Funny the stuff we remember.
    Wonder what happened to that Sister head and if she’s still collecting tapes.

    Good times man, thanks for sharing.

    That closing Truckin’ > Black Peter > Sugar Magnolia is pretty sick, and I bet your a lil less disappointed with it now days.

    Great Show & Great story!

    Sounds like you might have a few more.. 4/6/82 is a fave.. we might have to pull a couple these for a pick. Got any favorites?

    Good stuff :)

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    @GOGD My memory is not great but here goes. I had Blues for Allah and Mars Hotel on record but no tapes. I lived next to a girl in college who had hundreds (literally) of tapes. She was my first introduction to live Dead, not the album. But I wasn't sure what to expect at my first show. There were songs I wanted to see, like China > Rider and FOTM and Crazy Fingers.

    I remember liking the first set, Jack Straw and Candyman were favorites. Believe it or not I was disappointed when they ended with Truckin and Sugar Mag. I didn't know at the time that every show was different and some songs got played way more than others. I thought they were a "normal" band that played some album cuts in concert then ended with their "hits". When I mentioned my disappointment to my friend after the show she just laughed. I think she knew that I was hooked.

    My next show was 9/2/1978 and then 45 others. Not a lot but saw some good ones, including 5/16/81 and 4/6/82 (released)

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    That things here always get busy just as life gets too busy, lol.
    So I’ve been trying to keep up, but haven’t had enough time to properly reply, especially with my Summer 85 “Signing in the rain” ...
    First, thank WTJ not me for that great 88 pick! Though I was at work listening on sub par equipment so didn’t get the full Vulcan mind meld, I did thoroughly enjoy it, and remember it drew me out of my focused work mind several times.
    And yes, you can totally hear them giving Bob shit before Blackbird. And yes, why the hell didn’t they play Believe it or Not and She belongs to me more often!
    Don’t really have time yet, and more importantly I feel I need to relisten to 6/30/85 because in a word, I was disappointed, while 7/1/85 which I only really remember as having that smoking Scarlet/Fire, was actually amazing.
    I always thought 6/30/85 was THE show, meaning the cleanest/tightest, but still with some fire in the nutz, and a sexy set list.
    But upon listening, it seemed like there were many ruff starts, clams, at least, and JG especially. But eventually, the songs would often get right and get going, and did seem to progress overall as the show moved on, somewhat like some of the other shows from this tour, and often like the dead in general. There’s that Bode Miller analogy again.
    Even some of the sexy stuff: Keep on Growing, Cryptical etc, we’re ruff. Personally, I’m ok with that as I would rather see em go for and miss than play it safe and just dial it in.
    So yeah, was a little disappointed but that’s why expectations suck, and why we have to listen eh! I also was exhausted, and kind of bummed and depressed that evening, so that probably affected my mood while listening etc. So need to go back and give this one another run.
    Meanwhile, 7/1/85 blew me away. I’ve never heard the first, and the tape I had of the second was too hot so didn’t sound so good. So it was awesome to sit down and really listen to this show, really enjoyed it. Perhaps the tightest of the tour? Definitely one of JGs better nights of the tour as far as miscues and vocal issues.
    Have to wonder how listening to different formats may have effected perspective? Listened to awesome SB for 6/30, while back to a HS matrix for 7/1. Been digging these HS matrixes for the most part.
    So going to have to replay these 2 and get better handle...
    Really want to try that 5/14/78 30 trips that I don’t think I’ve got round to yet? 78 not a big go to year for me which is precisely why I need to be exposed to more. Seems like the more time I spend with MY lesser years, the more I’m pleasantly enlightened! As I keep beating the drum: ITS ALL GOOD! just have to poke around! Oh, and yeah, that 6/30 Shakedown has to be my favorite @ version...
    And DP 36, right on, haven’t heard that beast in a while, so prolly save that one for when I can be one with it....but love that pick! Thanks guys for all the good picks!
    Ok, gotta go, but hopefully I’ll finish the whole 85 saga later, though of course Big Steve on pre-game and then VV 2, so phew, so much to catch up on, so better get going!
    Schlater!

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    VGUY - You gotta check out the 5/13/78 OMSN Encore… ripping!

    DELHEAD - You got any stories from your first show? It’s a freakin’ good show.. dug listening to it again.

    WILFREDTJONES - Listen carefully friend, You’re messing with powers that can not be contained once they are released!

    So.. yeah is there an official pick today?

    Not sure I’m up for more ’78, I think I might need some ’72 - 73 goodness.

    What about 9/21/72 DiP V36?

    It’s Friday…

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    Check out the space going into Other One. Almost a Spanish Jam in there. DP 25 Springfield-New Haven 4 Disc wonder. It's one I check into often and always satisfies. As for today, I decided to check into 7/6/87 Pittsburgh a little early. I'm looking forward to set II pretty soon. Stagger Lee just finished up, and now Desolation Row right on it's heels...Have a Grateful Day everyone! :-)

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Now when I go shopping I look like the uni-bomber hood up glasses on mask I'm afraid to go to the bank.

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One typo, 3-22-93 was in ATL not Oakland. Don’t know how this site got that wrong.
Oh wait, not surprised that this site has errors.

7-31-74, Promised Land just ended, I have a lot to look forward to while cooking. Probably time for some beer.

....es no bueno. Plenty of alcohol though. Whew!
11.10.73 Bob T says? Twist my joint.
The Kinks were incredible. Every album is different! You go Davies Bros! Reminds me of another band. Too bad they fought so much.

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....is a pic from the 7.31.74 booklet. Look at Garcia leaning back and blowing everyone's minds!! Yup. Kinda like that! Lookit him loving on Wolf.

I wasn’t saying to listen to it tomorrow, I was saying “Hey Dave, how about 12-18-73 for DaP36?”
But that doesn’t mean that you can’t listen to it tomorrow after 11-10-73.

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You’re so lucky to live in a cool state.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 15:45

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....list shows attended. Pour some good bourbon, light a preroll and go!
Nevada is a cool state, Vegas mayor notwithstanding.
Prepping the grill for ribeyes.
I fear for my home city though.
I still have Primus tix for July in Vegas.
LMG says 10.6.20 will be a date to focus on. Kept it short and sweet. We shall see.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 15:56

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My vote is for the Winterland show, though Curtis is incredible.

Maybe some Pig and/or Brent shows going forward?

Peace

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Submitted by bob t on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 16:45

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Bolo so incredibly envious i think is the word.... 11/10/73, first show wow!! Playing>Uncle John's>Morning Dew>Uncle John's>Playing, I think I would have passed out!!! Did you go the next night??? bob t

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 16:57

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Still working my way through this monster. Love the Scarlet opener. Great first set. Nice China Rider. Love the Eyes, WPS.

Every time I listen to this show, I always think the fidelity is just a little off. Doesn't seem to match some of the other 74 releases like Dick's 31, RT2
2.3 or Dave's 9, the May MT show, which are all A+ in sound quality. What do you all think? Do I have a bad copy?

Winterland 73, wow Bolo that is pretty cool that was your first show.
I am in on 11/10/73 for tomorrow.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 04/26/2020 - 18:00

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....I'm representing the Big Rock Pow Wow 5.23-24.1969. Road Trip Vol 4. No 1. I was one year old. Makes sense to me. Music to be birthed by.
You want the grease? There ya go.
Jimbo is especially fond of this release. Hard to argue.
If there are rules to this endeavor, I might have just broken them.

....was ahead of the curve.
Nuances. Jerry flutters the strings at the 1:50 mark of BE Women.....getting settled here.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 07:20

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11/10/73 - Fine start with Bertha, Jerry's solo says it's gonna be a good night out of the box.

BOLO tell us a first show story!

And when you say "official" show, is there un-official shows? Just trying to be hip, on all the jive;)

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 07:44

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Bertha grooving I can see Bolo dancing, Jack, Loser into a beautiful LLR, Deal still climbing, nice Mexicali, wonderful Tenn Jed & El Paso, Fair Thee Well I want to cry, BIODTL, hoping Row J, and Weather Report takes me home.

Set 2 dives right into the deep end. Stella Blue, Truckin' are they teasing Nobodys Fault, psychedelic Wharf Rat

I remember listening to this run when I first got it 11/9 I thought was great, the 10th was okay some nice parts played very well. I think they were holding back some so they could blow everyone's minds on the 11th. It's played with enough energy to carry from 9 into the incredible 11.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 09:04

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... As you can see, being a rock n' roller ain't no bed of roses.

Love these guys! 11/10/73 commencing.

Peace

Set 1 was a real nice trip.

iTunes is telling me I haven't listened to this since 10/11/13 @ 12:41pm & I'm thinking I was probably pretty toasted then based on the time..

I'm really getting a lot out of these revisits... so many days between.

Crazy to think that in 2008 this was the 2nd big Box Set of a run of shows released. Previously planned for 2006 release, who remembers waiting?

Brokedown Palace 1 of 7 from '73.. real good.
Weather Report Suite was so good too.
(little tape flutter I'm hearing in there?).

Time for a Set Break.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 11:05

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What show are we doing today, Winterland 73 or Big Rock Pow Wow? I'm so confused...

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 12:17

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I would be right at home at this one. Can't wait till tomorrow.

This site thinks I'm a robot. Do I look like a robot?

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 12:21

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I got a rabbit sits out front of the house everyday listening to the tunz. Them must be some good picks.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 12:39

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Dillon Stadium had some kind of dynamic effect on the band. Exploratory China Cat /I Know you Rider . , think about 50 year anniversary of Harper College May 2 next Saturday . Considered one of the most amazing Dead concerts of all time.
Mark me down for Seminole Powwow, Alligator land.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 14:56

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November 73 is so damn good. This show is awesome. Again, the focused listen to get through the whole show in one day is fun. I will be checking out 11/9 and 11/11 again this week as well.
Sound quality is A+. First Plangent Box, what a great job and partnership with Dave and crew.

Always like hearing a Brokedown Palace. Of course the Playing/UJB/Dew/UJB/Playing sandwich is epic.

Great finish. Big River, Stella Truckin, etc. Casey Jones encore.

And you were there Bolo, wow! What a unbelievable first show.

Great Pick!
Thanks a lot folks.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 15:43

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The sea was angry that day, my friends.

My brother and I arrived at the corner of Post and Steiner, queueing up to enter the vaunted Winterland Arena. It was my birthday present from him, and the first time I'd seen the Dead since 1/14/67, the Human Be-In (thats a whole 'nother story).

As we're waiting to go in, my brother ran into a college buddy of his, Dell Furano, who was working for Bill Graham at the time. He and his brother would go on to form Winterland Productions with Graham the following year.

Anyway, Dell decided that we should see the show from a unique vantage point - a wooden light/camera box perched on the side of the wall with a great view of the band, stage right. We had to climb up a less-than-stable wooden ladder mounted on the wall, and I'm pretty certain we and other friends of the Furanos exceeded the legal weight capacity of said box by at least 200%.

As the show went on, any beer that was confiscated at the front doors mysteriously found its way up to our little box. It was a pretty steady supply for the duration.

During the set break, we found ourselves in the middle of a spontaneous drum circle in the lobby. We were chanting and banging on anything we could find - trash cans, empty beer bottles, etc. After several minutes, a rather large security dude came toward us and pulled a wooden baton out of a hip holster. I thought we were in for it, but he just joined in, banging on a concrete column and grinning widely. The whole scene was as cool as one could possibly imagine - complete bliss!

After the famous Playin' sandwich to launch the second set, well, that was it for me. Plaster from the old ceiling was literally raining down on us as Phil dropped bomb after bomb, and I was in heaven - I'd officially found my seat on the bus!

After the show we hung around for a bit with a few folks, waiting until I felt it was OK to drive. I remember leaving through a side door, and I paused for a couple seconds and peeked out the door, because I wasn't entirely convinced that I was walking outside to the same planet Earth I'd departed a few hours earlier. Turns out my instincts were correct - the world would never look or feel or sound the same to this day. I, like all of you, was granted the extreme privilege of peeking behind the curtain. The soundtrack to my life had been established once and for all, and it's been a glorious journey ever since.

The End.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 16:33

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From where I was standing, I could see directly into the eye of the great fish.

A Great and Well told story!

You just can’t beat that, thank you sir.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 16:54

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"Mammal." "Whatever!"

11/9 Takes most of set 1 to get it dialed in, some roughs spots here and there China> Rider, Playin' pretty good. HCS to open set2.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 17:38

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The "Brokedown" is gorgeous, that whole 2nd disc is great, and the "Wharf Rat" is glorious. It was fun to dive into the boys towards the beginning of 73 (DiP28) and towards the end. What a great year!

I have (surprisingly) never listened to Big Rock, as I missed nearly all of the Road Trip series on the original go through, but I have found a way to stream it - looking forward to hearing what all of the hype is about!

Peace

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 04/27/2020 - 20:27

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....consists of beer brats with medium cheddar wrapped in crescent rolls and portobello mushrooms in a butter/garlic sauce with thyme and parmesian.
Looking for a chateau, 21 shrooms and one to go.
It works.
I'm no cook, but I spent last night at a Holiday Inn. Evens out.
Onto the second set.
Oh. And a merlot.

11/10/73 - Kidd Candelario’s tricked out 2-Track recording of Winterland ’73 along with Bolo24’s wonderful tale and copious recounts and reviews from GD scholars & fans took me there!

Said to be “maybe” the best 2-Track recordings from ’73 in the Vault quality wise

Set 2 Absolutely Rocks and the 1st of 3 PITB > UJB > Morning Dew > UJB > PITB palindrome is definitely the highlight. The rest of the set really sparkles too.
Really rockin’ Big River, nice Stella, top notch Truckin’ > Wharf > Sugar Mags, OMSN.
One of my favorite moments you ask?
Right before the Encore you hear a fan call for “Casey Jones!” and then “Drivin’ That Train…”
Ah.. Winterland that hallowed hall, I wish I knew you!

Ask and you shall be rewarded, right Bolo24?

Such a great first show story. Thanks again for sharing, I liked that firsthand account as much as the revisit, and the two together… Extra Sweet!

Yet another reason ’73 is mentioned as a “best” year for the GOGD.

Alright, onward you say? 5/23 & 24 of 1969 you say? Well, well, well…

After yesterdays revisit of '73 I'd like to hear that 11/11/73 Dark Star again & 11/17/73 DaP V5 Palindrome #2 again

So I’ll toss those two out to the wind and let’s see if they make it into our little revisit list..

But until then I will go with you all to the cosmic year of 1969!

PS - If no-one wants to listen to the two shows mentioned above 11/11/73 & 11/17/73 then, lmk cause I’ll listen to those in my “spare” time;)

ICECRMCNKD - 12/19/73 Complete Show Re-Issue / ReMaster. YES Please!!!

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Tue, 04/28/2020 - 07:57

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Commencing now.

"Hard to Handle" right outta the gate!

Looking forward to this one... I'll be sure to keep my hands out of my pockets.

Also, got my shipping notice for Jai-Alai - looks like delivery by end-of-day Friday. Good stuff.

Peace

EDIT: Just saw that according to our friend Doc, 4/28/71 may be the best show in GD history. Well, I know what I am going to put on after the Pow Wow!

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Submitted by unkle sam on Tue, 04/28/2020 - 08:43

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What a show the 23rd is, how many times did they do St. Stephen>the Eleven outta Dark Star? This is a really good Dark Star and a very nice Morning dew, what's not to like. Plus I think this is the first Casey Jones. I have been to the Seminole Indian Reservation, went to the Phish show down there for the 1999 new years run, but that's a different story. I can only imagine how desolate and out in the middle of nowhere this show must have been, must have been a gas to drive on Alligator Alley to get to this show. I've also seen Alligators and Indians and have experienced Orange Sunshine, just not all together at the same time :)

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Tue, 04/28/2020 - 11:42

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10 was dialed in so from Bertha on the sound was there maybe a few tweaks here and there, they were really able to hear each other very well kinda like 8-24-72 where you can hear all the nuances, and the band played very well. I made it to Eyes from the 9th it was late and things didn't seem to be clicking.

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Submitted by bob t on Tue, 04/28/2020 - 11:43

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Pigpen just heckles the shit out of the announcer.... "You ain't if you don't shut up!!" Listen closely if you never have... I threw a quote out from this show when i requested to listen to the Dave's Wichita 72 show, "Don't be programming it baby let's just get it on!!""" bob t

Running a little late, just getting into Set I of of 11-10-73. Bolo, that's quite the Origin Story!! Such a fun vivid picture to have painted for this collective listen. Wow, the sound is dialed in from the get go. Gorgeous. Another great pick o' the day. Disc 3 from the next night was in the road music rotation for a good while, but even that seems like ages ago. Looking forward to the Big Rock Pow Wow - that sequence with He Was A Friend Of Mine is sweet!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Tue, 04/28/2020 - 12:00

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The Spirit's are alive! The Katcinas here.

This show sound dialed I can hear everything twice the band is playing great, Dark Star through the roof. What i like most about the era is it goes right into it. Bear was The Sound Man I guess everybody else learned it from him.

When life gives you lemons you go put on Pow Wow from '69.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Tue, 04/28/2020 - 12:00

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I enjoyed today's listen - though I must admit that I did not do the back-to-back 30~min. "Lovelights."

"Death Don't" is a track that I need to listen to more often - one of my favorites from the earlier days, and I thought this one was haunting and perfect.

I too was at the Phish 1999 NYE shows in the Everglades, and yes, I did see some gators. What a trip it must have been to be there in 69.

Good stuff. And yes, the band really did seem to give that announcer hell.

Peace

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Tue, 04/28/2020 - 12:19

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Sounds real nice. I hope that the 24th sounds good too but this Lovelight is pretty good.