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April 6, 2020 - 9:47am

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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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April 25, 2020 - 7:37am

#7721

Dennis

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shows attened & Stoltzfus

First, watching Shakedown last night (I thought the sound was weak at best), anyway, noticed in the youtube chat that goes on beside the show and saw the name Stoltzfus! Was that you?

Shows attended - Guess I'll have to type them in since everyone seems to be :-) Yes, I have all my tix stubs. I think I have every tix stub from every show, play and movie me and the old lady went to. (40 years together, can I call her the old lady? :-) Believe me, in 40 years I've used many other terms. Hell, I even tried to get her to go kayaking with Jim's GF) Besides "stubs", my buddy made a list of every show we did, every song they did and how we rated them. He included who was there. In my notes I also included where we sat. Hell, had to something between songs while tripping balls, right? But years ago, he printed them off in a small booklet about the size of a credit card. It's always on my desk just so I can look up shows and say, hey, we were there.
April 25, 2020 - 7:32am

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The Good Ole G…

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UNKLE SAM - 77

Way cool to hear your memories on the scene.

Yeah, I noticed a little gap in your shows between the first and the next.

Oh Donna, she scared you away for a bit!

She sure is a good sport about it all, at least from what I've seen.
But who knows what happens when she turns out the lights. Wooooo ooooo ooooo!!

Good Times and thanks for sharing!
April 25, 2020 - 7:28am

#7723

The Good Ole G…

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FOURWINDSBLOW - 1989

Looking at your shows attended, I thought you'd say that, but wanted to hear it.

I missed the entirety of 1989.. was out of the Country.

When I happened to catch a Dead show at the Frankfurt Festhalle in October 1990 (In reflection a tiny place to see the Dead!) I started hearing from other American DeadHeads that they'd just played Dark Star in Berlin... What the FUCK?!?!

I couldn't believe what I was hearing. What have I been missing I thought to myself... turns out a lot of really good Grateful Dead shows in 1989 & 90!

I'ma gonna check out some of those shows you mentioned at some point.
April 25, 2020 - 7:21am

#7724

Vguy72

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Shows attended....

....alright. I finally got off my lazy ass and listed them. I seriously didn't think I'd seen them that many times to be honest. That's a lot of grilled cheese sandwiches and kind veggie burritos my friends. What is really amazing is i have all but three of the ticket stubs still in my possession.
Getting ready to fire up 8.25.72 shortly. Working again today, so to the ARCHIVE!! STAT!!
edit. it appears there are no full show recordings there. Might have to wait until i get home. Think I'll listen to some Kinks in the meantime. Been feeling Kinky the past week or so.
April 25, 2020 - 7:21am

#7725

The Good Ole G…

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OTIS - BCT is Strong!

LOL - and then life started again... that's funny!

Regarding 8/27/72 as close to perfect, I wanted anything similar to that, this show might be the closest thing too it IMO.

If not, I wanna hear your picks people, what other shows remind of you of Veneta, which I (and maybe many others?) think might be the perfect show.

And with that from Marin County.. The Grateful Dead
April 25, 2020 - 7:15am

#7726

The Good Ole G…

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DEADVIKES - Alpine

So cool to hear those Alpine Memories!

Two back at ya.

6/26/87 - 1st Night - Set 2 - China Cat Midi weirdness. The weather was getting ominous, my first show at Alpine, was totally ripped, and I start hearing horns and weird shit, I’m trying to see the stage, thinking is there a guest performer or something, more midi weirdness in Eyes > Drums, I didn’t know what Midi was or how they were doing that, it was eating my mind, by the time they got to the ripping All Along The Watchtower (broke out 6/20/87 that year, so it was new) the weather had gotten pretty dicey, that Watchtower sounded truly Wicked in it’s delivery and tone. The boys laid it on us that night. I bought the ticket and took the ride. It’s a night I’ve always remembered. We slowly strolled out of the show went and found our tent, partied, crashed, woke up and did it again the next day in the sun!

1988 - 2 shows, break, 2 more shows - Yeah it was hot and dry as dirt that summer as reported. I loved the break day.. we were kids, so not having water didn’t seem to effect us, we were probably drinking soda.. who knows. But we hopped in my buddy’s convertible on the day off, drove around until we spotted a pool in someones back yard, and we all ran and hopped in it to cool off and get a dip, then ran back to the car dripping wet, dived in and sped off. It felt so good, we were so hot and dirty and it was dry as a bone. Sorry folks, but we needed your pool and you weren’t in it.

At the time I never thought those would be the days, but those were the days!

THE TAPES:
Sadly the Alpine tapes seem to have issues.
1987 - No SBDs in Circulation still! Been waiting for 33 years, and even if we had them, which we don’t, they probably sound like ass, like so many ’87 shows. Healy was experimenting with UltraMatrix that year and lots of ambient noise got baked into most of those tapes.

1988 - Healy strikes again! Dan was doing some type of panning of the sound through the speakers, I can’t remember where I read / heard, think it was GD Hour, maybe Lemieux. Anyhow, it creates a type of “warble” sound in the recording, I’ve got those SBDs and they’re a bit hard to listen to due to the consistent “warble” through out. All 4 nights have it, I think the last night has it least.

Another Flash - 6/20/88 - The sun setting as they played Terrapin. I still remember that as a favorite moment, was way back on the hill on the lawn lots a space, just taking it in, looking at the moon. I’d just seen a new Brent Song (Turned out to be first Blow Away unbeknown to us at the time / pre-internet / phones / technology) and that had rocked me, we were big Brent Fans.

1989 - Well those are some good tapes!!

But that’s another tale, and I wasn’t at those shows..

Memories:)
April 25, 2020 - 6:28am

#7727

Thats_Otis

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Early Morning Jamming - BCT 8/25/72

Got out of bed way too early for some reason, but had a chance to put on today's pick and listen to most of set 1 without interruption. Really strong 1st set! I love the placement of "Black Peter" and all of the regular tunes are played very well. Just finished with that beautiful "Bird Song" before the wife came down and life started again, so I am going to have to save "Playin'", "Bertha" and the short Set II for later on today, but that 1st set was a great way to start the day!

For no good reason at all, this is another pick that doesn't get as much play from me, but after this morning's initial listen, I think that is going to change!

Peace
April 25, 2020 - 6:22am

#7728

Strider 808808

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8/25/72 BCT

Mark me down with it
April 25, 2020 - 5:59am

#7729

Dennis

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Jim and the Ex

>>>>>The real kick in the ass is, she also threw away all my pictures, every single one... simply because some contained pics of me that included ex girlfriends.

That's a shame, a damn shame. The was just before she died in that tragic kayak accident, right? The river was running hard and fast and you begged her not to go out that day. It was only by the grace of GOD did you survive. I read the report about how you kept diving into the cold water time and time again to look for her, but, alas she was gone. But that's one secret you can never tell.
April 25, 2020 - 5:45am

#7730

unkle sam

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5/21/77

@ Good old Grateful Dead: I had to think about this one, that was a long time ago, and it was my first dead show. What I do remember about the show was the crowd, what a cool bunch of people, and the twirlers, my first time seeing them and they were everywhere, in the back, in the halls, in the bathrooms, everywhere there was a space, they were twirling. I'm pretty sure we all dosed that night, we did that a lot in the 70's. I have Dick's picks 29 which has this show and the Atlanta show if I'm not mistaken and the band was in tune and doing the "just exactly perfect" thing but I don't remember one tune they played that night. I also remember the tye dye, it was also everywhere and the stage had a huge tye dye mural in the background, most of the speaker covers were tye dyed too, as were a lot of the crowd.
I had heard a few dead songs before going to this show and was interested, but not a deadhead yet and believe it or not, this show did not transform me into one, not that night anyway, it was the April 80 show that did that. I remember getting close enough to get a good look at Donna on stage, she was ok but I had seen bands with chick singers and she just did not impress me. I prefered Grace who in my opinion had a much better voice and was just lovely to look at. With that said I do believe that it was Donna that left me uninspired and the main reason I did not get on the bus that night. I think a lot has to happen for one to get "it" and this performance just didn't have it and the civic center, even tho it was newish, having opened in the 70's, it was still a cavern with not the best acoustics. But three years later, I jumped on the bus big time and turned a lot of younger heads later on to this band, still my favorite band after 40 + years.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Orange Sunshine

I remember Buffalo '90 we had motel room like right across the street from the stadium I know it was in walking distance. Anyway we went up a day ahead and went to The Anchor Bar for wings and pizza. Then we went to The Falls Canadian side my buddy had family up there. That night we got back to the room we took the bed spread off the beds and went down where they were camping and stayed up all night eating Orange Sunshine and drinking Fosters.

1969-05-23 - Road Trip!

I know it’s a surprise, but the Highlight = Dark Star > St. Stephen > Eleven > Lovelight

The Infamous Dark Star Suite of ’69!

Dark Star
If I waxed poetic, I’d go on and on about this Dark Star, but mostly I wanna say, it’s got the Vibraslap, and I love the Vibraslap, especially in Dark Star, and therefore I love this Dark Star.

St. Stephen!
Can’t beat a Classic Version like this. You get the Xylophone, Cannon, William Tell Bridge, it’s all there. This is a great St. Stephen of old.

The Eleven
It’s good! Crazy good you ask? Well.. Crazy good might be a bit much, but it’s good I say!

Turn On Your Lovelight
Sir Ron McKernan aka Pigpen with his blues and soul. I’ve come to feel that Pigpen is a tragic figure, and the band would forever change with his passing, but here he is young and alive and that’s how I like to remember him.
Cause she’s got Box-backed nitties… what’s he say?!?!? (Let’s leave that for the scholars)
Calm down Bobby.. it’s no time for screaming like that!

Alright, well.. that was fun.
I guess I should put on the next show and follow my bliss.
5/24/69 you’re up next…

Note:
When they rehearsed and played St. Stephen with regularity, like in 1969, it was such an amazing song.. alas Jerry would remark that he felt that the song was a cop and due to that and less time spent rehearsing, St. Stephen would leave the garden.

If you watch the Grateful Dead Movie with the director’s commentary, Susan Crutcher tells a pretty fascinating story about how, she wanted to include St. Stephen in the section with the photo montage and Jerry was like, we don’t even play that song anymore, and Susan said yeah but it’s sooo good. And while listening to the song repeatedly during the editing process, Jerry’s interest got peaked and that led to the band resurrecting the song in 1976. The story holds water as they were editing the movie in ’76 when St. Stephen came back. Not to mention Susan strikes me as a cool person who would have no reason to embellish a story like that. I found that to be pretty cool and wanted to share.

I love St. Stephen of old!

FOURWINDSBLOW: How much of that there Orange Sunshine did you eat? That's the question...

GOGD-OSS

Enough! That's all I'm saying.

There were just the three of us out of ten that went to the camping site, we were the crazed of the group. The next morning when we went back to the motel room waking everyone up with a hearty breakfast of Orange Sunshine.

Good Show! CSN and The Dead! We went in early and sat right up in front of Jerry.

RE: OSS

FWB - That sounds like Good Times!

You seen that Doc on Orange Sunshine? Pretty fascinating.

That and Heads by Jesse Jarnow.

So much info. Such a Taboo subject... You gotta love it!

Oh Yeah

I just remembered that right before set 2 the band on the stage and the camera rolling a camera guy center stage got me giving the thumbs up as he panned the crowed I know he saw me cause he smiled. Hope it makes it on the official video.

7/16/90

Check out Bucket> Half Step if ya wanted to listen to more that would be okay.

https://archive.org/details/gd1990-07-16.sbd.miller.95782.sbeok.flac16/…

I have a cool story about taking mexican quaaludes at a show....

....I'll fill you in later.
I have a pick to throw into the ring. It's not official, and I'm sure most have you have heard it, although maybe not in a long time (like me). 10.16.81 Club Melk Weg. Amsterdam. Bobby's birthday. One acoustic set. One electric. Borrowed instruments. High AF on hashish. Lovelight bustout after nine years. It's a really fun show. My two sense.
https://archive.org/details/gd1981-10-16.sbd.miller.110351.flac16/gd81-…

Taboo Subject, Let the Good Times Roll

Not sure why this would be a taboo subject here.. the band certainly didn't try to hide it. Besides.. most of this is folklore by now, happening between 55 and 25 years ago. It could be just because I am old and in the way.. but you don't see or hear of it that much these days.

I enjoy reading peoples stories, most of which (probably all that are told on these threads) by far predate any statute of limitation. Like it or leave it, this is American and World History. Let the good times roll (deja que los buenos tiempos pasen, deixe os bons tempos rolarem, laissez le bon temps rouler).

Edit: Speaking of LSD, I finished discs 1 and 2, 3 later. Still one of my favorite 69 releases behind FW and Fillmore Auditorium. I agree with the Good Ole GD.. disc one probably delivers the goods and is the highlight, but my favorite is disc 2 simply because He Was a Friend of Mine > The Eleven speaks to me... As for disc three, I have never met a Morning Dew or an Alligator I did not like. Even the squatty little yeller one with no tail.

vguy 10/16/81 Melk Weg

There was a video of both shows on Youtube, a few years ago, don't know if it is still out there!!

Back to Pow Wow....

....i never met an Alligator i didn't like, and i really like this one. Love the Feedback as well. Great show!!

Mmmmm.....Melk Weg

https://youtu.be/WvvYChZTXMw

https://youtu.be/b4p1zBuqYDk

5-23/24/69 Pow Wow RT 4.1(?)

I actually was awarded this for a prize back in 2010 for the inaugural version of 30 Days of Dead. It was on the 5th day and the song was Playing in the Band from 5/20/73 UCSB. As I recall it was a totally random guess! Funny the things we remember (and what we forget!)

Re: Pow Wow

Couldn't have happened to a better person.

Pow Wow Wow

Had a good time listening to 5/23 & 24/69 today.

The opening Lovelight almost seems to be a prankster response to the rookie mc telling people to be seated... never trust a prankster.

All the banter is fun. The difference between the closing Lovelight & opening Lovelight was interesting as well.
The opening Lovelight seemed to be much more exploratory with different themes being introduced, especially around 14:30, Jerry gets into a cool groove. The Drums > St. Stephen transition was a trip too.

Good stuff all around.

Milkweg is cool, I like Milkweg

11/17/73 Dap 5 is calling me too, I can feel it's pull.

WILFREDTJONES - 30 Days, look forward to it every year, and that's a good prize! Thanks Dead.net for being cool.

JIMINMD - I agree! That subject should not be taboo. May the human exploration into the cosmos and beyond continue!

Alright you all, keep on rockin' looking forward to the next pick here and in my mailbox.. shipping noticed received!

Be Well

Tomorrow's Pick

What's on tap for tomorrow?

Jimbo, good to see you over here. Time for a pick. Send us one.

Still no shipping notice here.

Pick

Oh,.. the pressure. I am not good at this. But since we are on the best sounding of the road trips. I would humbly suggest either the WOS road trips (6/18/74) or the 5/15/70 Road Trips.

If I had my way.. I would pick Louisville 74 in honor of the eminent release (Road Trips Vol 2 No 4). One other ask.. on or about the first received date of the next Dave's Picks. Would it be possible / make sense to hold this show open for a week so both the folks that get it first have time to comment and the folks that get a day (or six) later have time to participate? Seems reasonable to me. So a week and day of 1974?

Pick

We could do 'From Egypt With Love?' Mix it up a little.

Real great Stella Blue even with the audience patch.

Pick TOO

I want to pick a show Vguy saw. It was his second and it cooks!

Jim's Pick

Good choice, let's do The RT.2.3. Shows from 6/16 and 6/18 74.

I like your idea for Dave's #34.

FourWinds, let's hit up The From Egypt with Love RT tomorrow. 10/21 and 10/22 78. I have not listened to this one in a while.

Thanks guys.

Deadvikes Egypt with love tomorrow

How funny i was grilling last night and I listened to half of the first CD!! Now i have a reason to listen to the rest.. bob t

orange sunshine

there was orange sunshine in the 90's? I only remember it back in the 60's and early 70's and it was the bomb, 4 way hits, which meant you only needed to take a quarter of a hit and they were kinda small, so it was quite easy to take a bit too much. :o fun times indeed. Did some yellow sunshine back then too, it was suppose to be 8 way, never did more than a crumb of that stuff, talk about mind blown. They don't make it like that anymore.
Mexican quaaludes, mandrax I think they were called, not the same as 714's but still lots of fun, they had an antihistamine in the mix to help keep you awake the first 30 mins or so, then it was all fun and stumbling and falling and laughing and feeling invincible, sure wish they hadn't outlawed that drug, one on my favorites. Ever try ludes and acid together? wow, what an experience that was, add some black nepalese hash on top and you are now in heaven. Back in those days, it was ok to have a trove of drugs, like Hunter Thompson said in fear and loathing:
"We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers...and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can." and push it we did.

O S

If it wasn't O S it was very good and very clean. After our first dabble we stayed up all night looking for the girl that had it bought a bunch and ate it all day. Don't want to put misinfo out there but, thats what she called it, we had a good time.

6.18.74 sounds most excellent (Wyld Stallyns guitar riff)....

....cueing it up now on the Archive (i don't own the physical copy). Avatar updated. Four winds says he wants top pick a show i saw? I recently listed my attended shows if you want to look. Just don't choose 5.19.95. Yuck. Vocal drop outs during the Freedom Hall Promised opener. Good ole Wall Of Sound.

Vguy

Check your PM.

Wall of Sound

Many happy Road Trips over the years. Just finishing 5/23/69 lovelight . Amazing all the changes from live-dead era into Workingman’s era , nothing short of phenomenal creative drive.
There were a few lackluster Dead shows in the 70s ,but I never went to one back then that was less than amazing.
Would like to see a board tape of UCSB May 74 with Great American String Band set official release. Maria was real hot also. 74 was a banner year.
Seminole Powwow kicked ass. Dark Star was super improvisational . The 11 was exciting . Love-Light was also reflective of the youthful vigor of the band at that time.
Miss Indian World ,Cheyenne Kippenberger 2019-2021, is from the Hollywood , Florida Band of Seminole Tribe. Met her in Albuquerque during Gathering of Nations Powwow a year ago. She’s a real good person from one of the strongest of all the tribes in the country.
I still nominate 5/2/70 for this Saturday on its 50th anniversary .

Vguy

I suggested the 2nd ever show you saw. I thought this show had some unique Jerry playing on it especially for the time period. If we don't get to listen to it I'll understand but, maybe you can give your take on it I thought it was good for the time.

Ps. Fun fact, though I've never counted till today I got 28 of the 39 I saw on video.

You mean Anaheim Stadium?....

....it's View From The Vault 1. Maybe a video of the day with discussion is in order?
6.18.74's Ramble-On Rose was so good, i played it twice!!
pm checked

Meet Up At The Movie

Quarantine style. Sounds good!

Pick has Started = Contact High

Alright, firing up 6/16/74 and already WOW on Sound Quality and playing on China Cat..

My Completist OCD has prevented me from frequent listening of this & from Egypt with Love.
It might be cool to hear them both again in their compilation order... already struggling with the whole notion of rearranged songs.. Deep Breath.. they sound good.

Talking about Orange Sunshine, Mexican Quaaludes, Ludes & Acid, HST gave me a nice Contact Buzz!

Thanks UNKLE SAM & FWB for that.. Keep ‘em coming.

I was still tripping from the Great Pow Wow! Both nights rocked real good. I dug that.

He Was A Friend & Death Don't were real good too hear again, along with all the rest of that psychedelic stuff.

Good times!

Meet Up At The Movies Quarantine Style sounds Awesome!

Shake up the Shakedown Stream.. with a little bonus footage:)

This Eyes sounds real nice..

EDIT: And 5/2/70 Anniversary sounds promising as well!!

The Logistics....

....to have everyone cue up View From The Vault at the same time would be incredibly incredible. Zoom Meeting?!

RE:VGUY72 - Zoom Meeting

Bad Ass!

ZoooooooooooM!....

....I'm considered essential, but I'm off this Saturday and Sunday. jUSt SaYIn'.

6/16

Eyes, Playin. Nice! Nobodys Jam, now were going old school. Love it!

RE: Zoom Vault View

VGUY - Saturday works for me! PST

And 6/16 Eyes > Stronger Than Dirt > Big River is super!

Keith's piano... is he using a pedal or what's going on there?

Video pick?

If nobody has interest in the '87 Anaheim second choice would be in honor of the resident care-taker of the Vault, the man on the inside. With Dave's very first pick 'Truckin' Up To Buffalo' '89.

RE: Video Pick?

FWB - 4/10/20 - Shakedown Stream was "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" but 7/7/89 "Crimson White & Indigo" might have you in the crowd somewhere? Haven't seen that in awhile.

I'm down for View From The Vault V1 or '87 or whatever, just maybe something other than "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" as I just watched that recent. Just sayin'

DL said this week Shakedown Stream would be Closing of Winterland.

Alright, stoked to hear this 6/16/74 PITB for 28 minutes, but gotta wait till later and take care of some business first...

Be Well you All

GOGD

Yeah I forgot they did the '89 show but , The one I was talking about that i could be on film was Buffalo '90. Sorry for any confusion. JFK '89 we were in the bleachers half way back Jerry, Brent side.

I have the opener and the main act on audience video from Buffalo '90.

6/18/74

Had to cue this one up on archive too, (and will tomorrow's "From Egypt" pick.) I really don't know why I slept on these Road Trip releases - I guess I was put off by the cut-up nature. Oh well - LMA is a-ok with me :) Just now on "Roses."

I had to run out for my weekly grocery trip yesterday, and Sirius was playing "To Lay Me Down" from Jai-Alai - sounded very good, though I am not sure if it was the soon to be delivered version or not.

I know that many here already know this, but if not, the Freedom Hall show "Eyes" is the version that Holly Bowling does on solo piano. She apparently transcribed the whole jam. I have never directly compared them note for note, but her version is really great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voLdRQ-19dc

EDIT: She actually does her own "version" of the verses, but the jam is transcribed. On "BTW" and it looks like the WoS has settled in and is sounding better - still some vocal drops, but the band sounds incredible!

Peace