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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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April 11, 2024 - 5:42am

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DeadVikes

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Hampton

Nice work Jim.

As we all know, posting is requiring a lot of patience and it does not look like this will change any time soon.

Your post has inspired me to pull up some early 80s for today. Now, what shall it be?

Edit. Decided to go with 11/28/80, from the 30 Trips Box. Stay well out there. It is Masters week!
April 11, 2024 - 4:35am

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uncle_tripel

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YES...

...first TRAVELIN' road show ALSO; dad loaned us his lil' VW dasher diesel station wagon (filled-up one tank of diesel, less than ten bucks and used about 3/4 of a tank, we need toll money for the BAY bridge, yup time to pass the hat) we piled-in...ALL of us PSEUDO hippies...and it poured rain for all 6 hours, and I remember driving, and it's the middle of the afternoon and it was like driving at dusk the entire route. walked out at the end and we were all very SATISFIED.
April 10, 2024 - 7:57pm

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JimInMD

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Well...

I took that as far as I could adding a sentence at a time until Sargeant Hey Now found me. I'm pretty sure if I would have spelled Ms Swifts name correctly I would have gotten gong'd.

At least I got in that much but it took me a couple days and more time than I am willing to admit I spent on this.

These guys really have become the anti-fun police. If justice prevailed it would be marked on their headstones for eternity.
April 10, 2024 - 7:44pm

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JimInMD

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Hampton April 83

The first show I travelled to, I took the rents car but I am quite sure they had no idea we were going to a dead show.

We all tripped, it was my second or third show, still cannot recall if I was at the Cap Centre show in the fall of 82. I think yes, but not entirely sure. My ex tossed all my stubs.

Anyway, I did not have many tapes by then and I did not know that many songs yet so my memories are more of the scene, how much fun we had and afterwards finding a place to sleep without getting in any trouble. I remember how hard they jammed to be sure. We had almost no money, gas was about a dollar a gallon, so if you pack some food and don't have to spring for a hotel it's very doable. In 83 you could get tickets without too much trouble for like $12 or something. You see Tailor Swift was not even born yet and the last, next to the last, seriously this is the last Eagles tour was not an issue yet so 100 dollar tickets were farcical.

After the show we drove to Va Beach to try and sleep on the sand afterwards. That was a no go.. we were destined to be up all night. It started to drizzle, it was cold and cops were buzzing so we abandoned that idea and ended up quasi sleeping in the car in the parking lot of a motor in.

So was my first travelling dead show. We had the time of our lives and thankfully, did not get in trouble and the parents car was returned the next day unharmed. Good thing they did not check the mileage.

Oh, the show was really freaking good as far as I can remember. Help/Slip!/Franks and then some.
April 10, 2024 - 4:51am

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uncle_tripel

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BACK THEN...

...wasn't it named hampton roads coliseum? can still remember the 6 hour jaunt with a forever slow crawl thru delaware [alabama toot-away anyone?] yup, we got back to the hotel and all one of our friends could talk about was "how the dead were now singing nursery-rhymes"...ashes ashes all fall down! lol; 4/9/83 FUN stuff!
April 9, 2024 - 6:35pm

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JimInMD

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4/9/83

I caught that one. I'd tell the tale but the HeyChow police are on to me.
April 9, 2024 - 4:28pm

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DeadVikes

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69-OB

Nice work OB. How did you get that post past the Hey Now police?
April 9, 2024 - 2:08pm

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daverock

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Spring 1969

The Aoxomoxoa outtakes from around this time are also worth checking out. St Stephen with cello, The Eleven with bagpipes and Barbed Wire Whipping Party with nitrous oxide, supposedly.
April 9, 2024 - 12:16pm

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Oroborous

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4/9/83

That is a fine show TN.
Think I had it in my top five when I did that tour!
April 9, 2024 - 12:07pm

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Oroborous

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HN

W i n t e r Spring 69

The rainbow ballon band lol

This round I hit every available show that I hadn’t heard before, plus rehashing a few official release ones.

For various reasons, I wasn’t able to get as deep as i usually do, and sometimes the lackluster recordings made it harder to get to the goodness, but usually I at least caught the standout moments, both good and not so good.
The overall consistency and repetitiveness actually makes it very hard to decipher subtle differences, so combined with my lighter digestion, I wouldn’t say this is a comprehensive consideration. More a go fast and hard and see what stuck approach.

Overall I found almost every show at least good, and don’t recall clunkers.

I had heard January seventeen via Doc on POTD, and the Aoxomoxoa 50th bonus stuff, but rehashed all that in order to get a good reference starting point.
February 2, 4, 5 and 6 were next, getting seemingly better each night, while noting the fierce Stephen 11 jam on the 5.
The very fine shows on the 7 we’d enjoyed on POTD via Doc, so skipped
Same with the Fillmore shows on the 11.

Did hit another hot one on the 12th, though not sure which show, but man it has another scorching Stephen 11 jam!

Followed with the good first night at The Electric factory, but perhaps a step behind the awesome next night previously dug via Doc on POTD.

I skipped the RJ level goodness of the 2 Dream bowl shows, but I did rehash the whole FW run as I’ve never done so completely and in order before. Sigh, words can not convey…

Skipped the previous POTD Doc choice on March 15 (another top shelf) so next up was an equally wonderful outing on the 22 at the Rose Palace. The tape takes awhile to settle but don’t let that stop ya!
The 28 is another good but perhaps not great outing from Modesto.

I skipped Docs previous choice on the 3/26 and 4/11, along with the Avalon run.
Again, goal was to hit unheard shows this time around…

February things really start getting unbelievable. Some of the newer songs that were ruff at best earlier, are starting to gel and the “Live Dead” stuff is starting to get more improvisational as their slowly shifting from the “keep it tight and right” for the recordings phase. The consistency is still very good but their starting to morph and explore more, and it’s easy to hear differences in this material, perhaps easier than back in February.

April 12 - 17 are absolute gold! Some of the recorders aren’t great but you must hear your way through that to fully appreciate some extremely fine Dead! The 15 especially got my attention! And I rehashed the 17 since previously my copy was not complete and to compare with the 15. I’d call the 17 the 15 if it was given the treatment. And hey, it’s just a little rain folks lol.

Skipped previous Doc 18, which I think is good, but just a tad behind the previous? Did hit the 20 with similar feelings.
Though I’ve heard the Ark shows, don’t think ever did them completely in order etc, so rehashed and dug the hell outta those. I find the middle show to be RJ while the others are good, but perhaps missed it by that much?
Same with the 25. I did the complete shows from the next 2 nights as I’d only heard the DP before. Really strong like all of April but maybe a tad off the peak of a week or two previous?

May is still good, but felt like they peaked and were moving on again with more new material and increasingly longer shows (earlier there were many one set shows, though some of that might be incomplete recordings too)
Checked out the Sierra college on the 3, kinda weird?, and perhaps even weirder vibe at the Polo fields on the 7. Another beauty at the Rose Palace again on the 10 with a very awesome Dark Star!
Perhaps the best of May I heard this round was the next night at the Aztec Bowl, followed by perhaps the only dog in the bunch, Moraga on the 16, which I rehashed since Doc mentioned it again lol. More weirdness lol
Skipped the awesome RT FLA shows, but continued with May 29, 30, and 31st.
All were good, but the recording was ruff on the 29, and the 31st was perhaps a step above due to the a shenanigans and what not? Yet More weirdness lol
Finished off with the weird June first show? Was that a show?
Previously hit the fifth so next up will be the June FW run, but I’m way to burnt on this music for now. I’ll check out more, including the 27 and 28 that BTK has been suggesting…but first, full random cleansing Oxford 88, 5/14/74, 49, and anything else lol. Then, probably starting next week, going to do May through July of 79.
Onward!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Orange Sunshine

I remember Buffalo '90 we had motel room like right across the street from the stadium I know it was in walking distance. Anyway we went up a day ahead and went to The Anchor Bar for wings and pizza. Then we went to The Falls Canadian side my buddy had family up there. That night we got back to the room we took the bed spread off the beds and went down where they were camping and stayed up all night eating Orange Sunshine and drinking Fosters.

1969-05-23 - Road Trip!

I know it’s a surprise, but the Highlight = Dark Star > St. Stephen > Eleven > Lovelight

The Infamous Dark Star Suite of ’69!

Dark Star
If I waxed poetic, I’d go on and on about this Dark Star, but mostly I wanna say, it’s got the Vibraslap, and I love the Vibraslap, especially in Dark Star, and therefore I love this Dark Star.

St. Stephen!
Can’t beat a Classic Version like this. You get the Xylophone, Cannon, William Tell Bridge, it’s all there. This is a great St. Stephen of old.

The Eleven
It’s good! Crazy good you ask? Well.. Crazy good might be a bit much, but it’s good I say!

Turn On Your Lovelight
Sir Ron McKernan aka Pigpen with his blues and soul. I’ve come to feel that Pigpen is a tragic figure, and the band would forever change with his passing, but here he is young and alive and that’s how I like to remember him.
Cause she’s got Box-backed nitties… what’s he say?!?!? (Let’s leave that for the scholars)
Calm down Bobby.. it’s no time for screaming like that!

Alright, well.. that was fun.
I guess I should put on the next show and follow my bliss.
5/24/69 you’re up next…

Note:
When they rehearsed and played St. Stephen with regularity, like in 1969, it was such an amazing song.. alas Jerry would remark that he felt that the song was a cop and due to that and less time spent rehearsing, St. Stephen would leave the garden.

If you watch the Grateful Dead Movie with the director’s commentary, Susan Crutcher tells a pretty fascinating story about how, she wanted to include St. Stephen in the section with the photo montage and Jerry was like, we don’t even play that song anymore, and Susan said yeah but it’s sooo good. And while listening to the song repeatedly during the editing process, Jerry’s interest got peaked and that led to the band resurrecting the song in 1976. The story holds water as they were editing the movie in ’76 when St. Stephen came back. Not to mention Susan strikes me as a cool person who would have no reason to embellish a story like that. I found that to be pretty cool and wanted to share.

I love St. Stephen of old!

FOURWINDSBLOW: How much of that there Orange Sunshine did you eat? That's the question...

GOGD-OSS

Enough! That's all I'm saying.

There were just the three of us out of ten that went to the camping site, we were the crazed of the group. The next morning when we went back to the motel room waking everyone up with a hearty breakfast of Orange Sunshine.

Good Show! CSN and The Dead! We went in early and sat right up in front of Jerry.

RE: OSS

FWB - That sounds like Good Times!

You seen that Doc on Orange Sunshine? Pretty fascinating.

That and Heads by Jesse Jarnow.

So much info. Such a Taboo subject... You gotta love it!

Oh Yeah

I just remembered that right before set 2 the band on the stage and the camera rolling a camera guy center stage got me giving the thumbs up as he panned the crowed I know he saw me cause he smiled. Hope it makes it on the official video.

7/16/90

Check out Bucket> Half Step if ya wanted to listen to more that would be okay.

https://archive.org/details/gd1990-07-16.sbd.miller.95782.sbeok.flac16/…

I have a cool story about taking mexican quaaludes at a show....

....I'll fill you in later.
I have a pick to throw into the ring. It's not official, and I'm sure most have you have heard it, although maybe not in a long time (like me). 10.16.81 Club Melk Weg. Amsterdam. Bobby's birthday. One acoustic set. One electric. Borrowed instruments. High AF on hashish. Lovelight bustout after nine years. It's a really fun show. My two sense.
https://archive.org/details/gd1981-10-16.sbd.miller.110351.flac16/gd81-…

Taboo Subject, Let the Good Times Roll

Not sure why this would be a taboo subject here.. the band certainly didn't try to hide it. Besides.. most of this is folklore by now, happening between 55 and 25 years ago. It could be just because I am old and in the way.. but you don't see or hear of it that much these days.

I enjoy reading peoples stories, most of which (probably all that are told on these threads) by far predate any statute of limitation. Like it or leave it, this is American and World History. Let the good times roll (deja que los buenos tiempos pasen, deixe os bons tempos rolarem, laissez le bon temps rouler).

Edit: Speaking of LSD, I finished discs 1 and 2, 3 later. Still one of my favorite 69 releases behind FW and Fillmore Auditorium. I agree with the Good Ole GD.. disc one probably delivers the goods and is the highlight, but my favorite is disc 2 simply because He Was a Friend of Mine > The Eleven speaks to me... As for disc three, I have never met a Morning Dew or an Alligator I did not like. Even the squatty little yeller one with no tail.

vguy 10/16/81 Melk Weg

There was a video of both shows on Youtube, a few years ago, don't know if it is still out there!!

Back to Pow Wow....

....i never met an Alligator i didn't like, and i really like this one. Love the Feedback as well. Great show!!

Mmmmm.....Melk Weg

https://youtu.be/WvvYChZTXMw

https://youtu.be/b4p1zBuqYDk

5-23/24/69 Pow Wow RT 4.1(?)

I actually was awarded this for a prize back in 2010 for the inaugural version of 30 Days of Dead. It was on the 5th day and the song was Playing in the Band from 5/20/73 UCSB. As I recall it was a totally random guess! Funny the things we remember (and what we forget!)

Re: Pow Wow

Couldn't have happened to a better person.

Pow Wow Wow

Had a good time listening to 5/23 & 24/69 today.

The opening Lovelight almost seems to be a prankster response to the rookie mc telling people to be seated... never trust a prankster.

All the banter is fun. The difference between the closing Lovelight & opening Lovelight was interesting as well.
The opening Lovelight seemed to be much more exploratory with different themes being introduced, especially around 14:30, Jerry gets into a cool groove. The Drums > St. Stephen transition was a trip too.

Good stuff all around.

Milkweg is cool, I like Milkweg

11/17/73 Dap 5 is calling me too, I can feel it's pull.

WILFREDTJONES - 30 Days, look forward to it every year, and that's a good prize! Thanks Dead.net for being cool.

JIMINMD - I agree! That subject should not be taboo. May the human exploration into the cosmos and beyond continue!

Alright you all, keep on rockin' looking forward to the next pick here and in my mailbox.. shipping noticed received!

Be Well

Tomorrow's Pick

What's on tap for tomorrow?

Jimbo, good to see you over here. Time for a pick. Send us one.

Still no shipping notice here.

Pick

Oh,.. the pressure. I am not good at this. But since we are on the best sounding of the road trips. I would humbly suggest either the WOS road trips (6/18/74) or the 5/15/70 Road Trips.

If I had my way.. I would pick Louisville 74 in honor of the eminent release (Road Trips Vol 2 No 4). One other ask.. on or about the first received date of the next Dave's Picks. Would it be possible / make sense to hold this show open for a week so both the folks that get it first have time to comment and the folks that get a day (or six) later have time to participate? Seems reasonable to me. So a week and day of 1974?

Pick

We could do 'From Egypt With Love?' Mix it up a little.

Real great Stella Blue even with the audience patch.

Pick TOO

I want to pick a show Vguy saw. It was his second and it cooks!

Jim's Pick

Good choice, let's do The RT.2.3. Shows from 6/16 and 6/18 74.

I like your idea for Dave's #34.

FourWinds, let's hit up The From Egypt with Love RT tomorrow. 10/21 and 10/22 78. I have not listened to this one in a while.

Thanks guys.

Deadvikes Egypt with love tomorrow

How funny i was grilling last night and I listened to half of the first CD!! Now i have a reason to listen to the rest.. bob t

orange sunshine

there was orange sunshine in the 90's? I only remember it back in the 60's and early 70's and it was the bomb, 4 way hits, which meant you only needed to take a quarter of a hit and they were kinda small, so it was quite easy to take a bit too much. :o fun times indeed. Did some yellow sunshine back then too, it was suppose to be 8 way, never did more than a crumb of that stuff, talk about mind blown. They don't make it like that anymore.
Mexican quaaludes, mandrax I think they were called, not the same as 714's but still lots of fun, they had an antihistamine in the mix to help keep you awake the first 30 mins or so, then it was all fun and stumbling and falling and laughing and feeling invincible, sure wish they hadn't outlawed that drug, one on my favorites. Ever try ludes and acid together? wow, what an experience that was, add some black nepalese hash on top and you are now in heaven. Back in those days, it was ok to have a trove of drugs, like Hunter Thompson said in fear and loathing:
"We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers...and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can." and push it we did.

O S

If it wasn't O S it was very good and very clean. After our first dabble we stayed up all night looking for the girl that had it bought a bunch and ate it all day. Don't want to put misinfo out there but, thats what she called it, we had a good time.

6.18.74 sounds most excellent (Wyld Stallyns guitar riff)....

....cueing it up now on the Archive (i don't own the physical copy). Avatar updated. Four winds says he wants top pick a show i saw? I recently listed my attended shows if you want to look. Just don't choose 5.19.95. Yuck. Vocal drop outs during the Freedom Hall Promised opener. Good ole Wall Of Sound.

Vguy

Check your PM.

Wall of Sound

Many happy Road Trips over the years. Just finishing 5/23/69 lovelight . Amazing all the changes from live-dead era into Workingman’s era , nothing short of phenomenal creative drive.
There were a few lackluster Dead shows in the 70s ,but I never went to one back then that was less than amazing.
Would like to see a board tape of UCSB May 74 with Great American String Band set official release. Maria was real hot also. 74 was a banner year.
Seminole Powwow kicked ass. Dark Star was super improvisational . The 11 was exciting . Love-Light was also reflective of the youthful vigor of the band at that time.
Miss Indian World ,Cheyenne Kippenberger 2019-2021, is from the Hollywood , Florida Band of Seminole Tribe. Met her in Albuquerque during Gathering of Nations Powwow a year ago. She’s a real good person from one of the strongest of all the tribes in the country.
I still nominate 5/2/70 for this Saturday on its 50th anniversary .

Vguy

I suggested the 2nd ever show you saw. I thought this show had some unique Jerry playing on it especially for the time period. If we don't get to listen to it I'll understand but, maybe you can give your take on it I thought it was good for the time.

Ps. Fun fact, though I've never counted till today I got 28 of the 39 I saw on video.

You mean Anaheim Stadium?....

....it's View From The Vault 1. Maybe a video of the day with discussion is in order?
6.18.74's Ramble-On Rose was so good, i played it twice!!
pm checked

Meet Up At The Movie

Quarantine style. Sounds good!

Pick has Started = Contact High

Alright, firing up 6/16/74 and already WOW on Sound Quality and playing on China Cat..

My Completist OCD has prevented me from frequent listening of this & from Egypt with Love.
It might be cool to hear them both again in their compilation order... already struggling with the whole notion of rearranged songs.. Deep Breath.. they sound good.

Talking about Orange Sunshine, Mexican Quaaludes, Ludes & Acid, HST gave me a nice Contact Buzz!

Thanks UNKLE SAM & FWB for that.. Keep ‘em coming.

I was still tripping from the Great Pow Wow! Both nights rocked real good. I dug that.

He Was A Friend & Death Don't were real good too hear again, along with all the rest of that psychedelic stuff.

Good times!

Meet Up At The Movies Quarantine Style sounds Awesome!

Shake up the Shakedown Stream.. with a little bonus footage:)

This Eyes sounds real nice..

EDIT: And 5/2/70 Anniversary sounds promising as well!!

The Logistics....

....to have everyone cue up View From The Vault at the same time would be incredibly incredible. Zoom Meeting?!

RE:VGUY72 - Zoom Meeting

Bad Ass!

ZoooooooooooM!....

....I'm considered essential, but I'm off this Saturday and Sunday. jUSt SaYIn'.

6/16

Eyes, Playin. Nice! Nobodys Jam, now were going old school. Love it!

RE: Zoom Vault View

VGUY - Saturday works for me! PST

And 6/16 Eyes > Stronger Than Dirt > Big River is super!

Keith's piano... is he using a pedal or what's going on there?

Video pick?

If nobody has interest in the '87 Anaheim second choice would be in honor of the resident care-taker of the Vault, the man on the inside. With Dave's very first pick 'Truckin' Up To Buffalo' '89.

RE: Video Pick?

FWB - 4/10/20 - Shakedown Stream was "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" but 7/7/89 "Crimson White & Indigo" might have you in the crowd somewhere? Haven't seen that in awhile.

I'm down for View From The Vault V1 or '87 or whatever, just maybe something other than "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" as I just watched that recent. Just sayin'

DL said this week Shakedown Stream would be Closing of Winterland.

Alright, stoked to hear this 6/16/74 PITB for 28 minutes, but gotta wait till later and take care of some business first...

Be Well you All

GOGD

Yeah I forgot they did the '89 show but , The one I was talking about that i could be on film was Buffalo '90. Sorry for any confusion. JFK '89 we were in the bleachers half way back Jerry, Brent side.

I have the opener and the main act on audience video from Buffalo '90.

6/18/74

Had to cue this one up on archive too, (and will tomorrow's "From Egypt" pick.) I really don't know why I slept on these Road Trip releases - I guess I was put off by the cut-up nature. Oh well - LMA is a-ok with me :) Just now on "Roses."

I had to run out for my weekly grocery trip yesterday, and Sirius was playing "To Lay Me Down" from Jai-Alai - sounded very good, though I am not sure if it was the soon to be delivered version or not.

I know that many here already know this, but if not, the Freedom Hall show "Eyes" is the version that Holly Bowling does on solo piano. She apparently transcribed the whole jam. I have never directly compared them note for note, but her version is really great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voLdRQ-19dc

EDIT: She actually does her own "version" of the verses, but the jam is transcribed. On "BTW" and it looks like the WoS has settled in and is sounding better - still some vocal drops, but the band sounds incredible!

Peace