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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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June 8, 2020 - 8:14am

#6921

The Good Ole G…

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Today's Pick

Morning!

Let's see what this week brings.
OB - I'd be down to take the anniversary Cal Expo & or Shoreline Trip June 1990. 6/8 is looking good!
JIMINMD - 6/8/77 you say.. that could be a possible too.

LMK what you all choose to do.
I'm definitely liking the look 6/8/90:
Jerry songs in Set 1 - Cold Rain, Jack-A-Roe, High Time, Bird Song...
Set 2 opener - UJB > China > Rider .
I think I know what I'm doing here..

Had some nice listening over the weekend. PNW shows were fun, neither have PITB so I tend to skip them, but am glad to have given them a relisten.

That Dark Star > Eyes > China Doll from '73 is far out.
GOLLUM wonder why Keith didn't play on Dark Star, he starts in at about 4 minutes till the end, but now I'm curious. And you all make me wanna listen to the Yale Bowl '71. Wow STRIDER 88 you saw that too! Keep em coming.

China > Rider '74 was the highlight on that for me, and hearing Money Money... it's not good, but makes me smile. Also forgot about the Vocal drop outs and had to check some reviews to make sure my gear was working :)

1987-09-18 - Love that show, I wouldn't say it's the best from '87, but it sure is fun. As far as '87 goes the 7th member is present at most of those shows, roaring and excited and having a great time. For a little while there it sure looked like it might be coming to an end. But Jerry came back and was healthy and energized, the band was having fun, the shows were fun, everybody was thrilled and that energy passed back and forth throughout the year. It was so exciting that we all still got to do this thing we loved to do.. at least one more time. OTIS, definitely check out East Coast Spring Tour Hampton & Hartford shows.

Have a Grate Day Everyone!
June 8, 2020 - 5:46am

#6922

JimInMD

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6/8/77

6/8/77 came in on the Dave's Picks 34 page. Hard to argue with that.
June 8, 2020 - 4:40am

#6923

daverock

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5/19/74

I have listened to about half of it, but, as today is the day I unveil Dave's Picks 34, I may not get round to the rest of it today. Lightweight that I am!

The first half dozen or so songs are really well played and shouted. The vocal drop outs cause quite an interesting effect, as it encourages me to listen to the instrumental interplay more. You couldn't really recommend it as a first buy to someone, but for us who have so much, these drop outs may not really matter.

For me also, the highlights on the first half are China-Rider and Weather Report Suite. Superb playing by Bob during the transition between China and Rider. His playing at this time was much more than what I usually imagine by the description "rhythm guitar". Great the way they move off center during the jam on WRS. The playing is so subtle, the way they play off each other-every member of the band synched in and adding to the whole. So...thoughtful sounding. No resorting to gimmicks, special effects or time honoured crowd pleasing licks. Its great! Lovely clear sound, too.
June 7, 2020 - 10:51pm

#6924

Gollum

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Dolly Sods

Looks awesome on the google. Sounds like a great day. Adding to the bucket list-
June 7, 2020 - 6:11pm

#6925

JimInMD

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5/19/74

I had forgotten this was the show with the vocal dropouts. Two long shows back to back too.. sorry for that.

I mentioned it merely to compare the China Riders. This one is one of my more liked and a freshie today reminded me why. Also.. the temps and weather here were spectacular.. so we hopped in the truck and went trucking on down to the Dolly Sods Wilderness Area, a remote stretch in (in my opinion) the most spectacular part of West Virginia. The high was 71 degrees, not high humidity, but not low either. Narly a cloud in the sky.. so we hiked up the beautiful canyon of Red Creek several miles.. found a remote spot on the river to ourselves, pretty far off trail.. not another sole to be seen and set up comfy day camp. Spectacular swimming in the middle of Class V rapids, but at very low water.. so fun and not dangerous. Beautiful waterfalls abound.. and we jammed out to the better part of this show, finishing it on the drive home.

Highlights to me were #1 the weather, #2 mother nature, #3 The Grateful Dead. The China Rider and WRS were apex, but a second set Peggy-O on the hike back.. that mellow swank (and some dank) is, to me at least, very special.

Good day. Forgot my swimming shorts.. At what age are you too old to skinny dip anyway?

Edit: #1, Mother Nature, 2 the weather, 3 GD. What was I thinking?
June 7, 2020 - 12:19pm

#6926

Oroborous

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Before, now, later

9/18/87: ✔️ Nice little show. Start off like a rocket sled fortunately attached to the rails or it might of jumped the tracks. Bobs all fired up. JG balances it out with a nice Sugaree, sweet Candyman, and big Bird song...Groovy Shakedown etc.
Nice/fun La Bamba surprise complete with Spanish lyrics! Good 87 show, but best of the year???

6/24/73:✔️ I don’t know what the hell it is but I’ve still not been able to really get with the PNW box. I’m sure it’s because I’ve always been trying to force it into my soul instead of letting it simmer and marinate naturally. When the box first was released things were so nuts I’m surprised I had a chance to even just rip it and background play it. Since then I’ve tried a couple times to catch up with it but things always seem to get distracting and busy and long/short.. I’ve still really haven’t had a chance to get tight with this box, sigh.
Yesterday continued the trend, as I had it on but got distracted finally coming up with some bookshelf plans for my office/stereo room. The music helped the muse and I think I have a first draft witch is often the hard part, but alas this PNW beauty was dust in my mental wind. Definitely need to hit that DS up at least, and really need to try and do a show a day real sit down of the whole box soon!...but In the mean time I’ll gladly visit 5/19/74 later today!

FUTURE PICKS: the following are going to be 30 anniversary show this next week or two, and their also part of my first trip to the promised land. Finally, after being on the bus for like 13 years and over 80 shows at that point, we finally made it to the famed promised land and it definitely was real AND spectacular!
So I’m personally going that direction for these, but thought perhaps all y’all might be in for the ride of some/all these 6 shows as Pic-o-the-day possibilities? Honestly, I’m not sure I’ve ever heard any besides the vault/cd release from 6/16/90, so I’m not really sure I can suggest anything specifically. I member they were all good shows, but only the released one comes to mind because I remember the unusual set list. I do remember thinking that these west coast shows had an energy or vibe that went inward versus powerful east coast shows were the energy flowed outward...sorry, hard to explain the thirty year old clouded ramblings of a blissful tripster, but some things fortunately do stick in what’s left of the ole memory bank. Like the vibe was comparatively quiet, subtle, mellow, relaxed in a way that was very inwardly loud and powerful? Yeah, remember it really hit me that energy vortex thingy...
So here’s the shows, if anyone is more knowledgeable about specifics or has a suggestion I’m all ears. I’m going to try and tag them all, but just thought these might be perfect for our club here as their good shows but seem to be fairly under the radar...
CAL EXPO
- 6/8/90
- 6/9/90
- 6/10/90
SHORELINE
- 6/15/90
- 6/16/90
- 6/17/90
Ok, thanks, let me know your mind!
June 7, 2020 - 9:54am

#6927

icecrmcnkd

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Jim, cursive

There’s a font for that.
June 7, 2020 - 9:46am

#6928

Gollum

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Yale Bowl 1971

Wow, to have been at that Yale Bowl 71 show! That Road Trips release has always been a favorite. That show was a coveted rarity back in my tape trading days in the early 80's. I had read in an old "Mikel" flyer that it had one of the very best Dark Stars, but nobody ever had it except as a low quality audience tape. So I was thrilled with its official release. Isn't this the ideal 71-72 transition show? The wild and wooly "Bobby Mcgee" is one of my favorites. Due for a re-listen! (I listened to the Star this morning through headphones, but couldn't hear Pig's organ, but I think he is playing some kind of shaker)

Thanks for the JGB clip bolo. I first heard "The Maker" by the JGB and just loved the song. I've looked for other versions but so far none can top Jerry's for me. A bunch of JGB songs are like that: Senor, Stop that Train, Dixie, Tangled Up, etc. Lots of great versions by great artists, but Jerry owns those songs in my book.

Queueing up Portland 74-
June 7, 2020 - 9:21am

#6929

JimInMD

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Labeling Tapes

I was (well tried to be) the same.. but penmanship was never my strong point.

Still, for the really great tapes I was able to get my grubby paws on, I made a strong attempt to make clean and cool labels. I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse that computers do most of the writing for us now. I don't think they teach cursive anymore.. times have changed.
June 7, 2020 - 8:47am

#6930

bob t

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I think 5/19/74 set II was one of my first 10 shows i had on

cassette... I even remember buying some colorful construction paper tape labels, I can't remember what show but i know it is blue because i still have it!!! Never bought any more, became a purist how i labeled all my tapes... what a moron i was.... bob t

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Orange Sunshine

I remember Buffalo '90 we had motel room like right across the street from the stadium I know it was in walking distance. Anyway we went up a day ahead and went to The Anchor Bar for wings and pizza. Then we went to The Falls Canadian side my buddy had family up there. That night we got back to the room we took the bed spread off the beds and went down where they were camping and stayed up all night eating Orange Sunshine and drinking Fosters.

1969-05-23 - Road Trip!

I know it’s a surprise, but the Highlight = Dark Star > St. Stephen > Eleven > Lovelight

The Infamous Dark Star Suite of ’69!

Dark Star
If I waxed poetic, I’d go on and on about this Dark Star, but mostly I wanna say, it’s got the Vibraslap, and I love the Vibraslap, especially in Dark Star, and therefore I love this Dark Star.

St. Stephen!
Can’t beat a Classic Version like this. You get the Xylophone, Cannon, William Tell Bridge, it’s all there. This is a great St. Stephen of old.

The Eleven
It’s good! Crazy good you ask? Well.. Crazy good might be a bit much, but it’s good I say!

Turn On Your Lovelight
Sir Ron McKernan aka Pigpen with his blues and soul. I’ve come to feel that Pigpen is a tragic figure, and the band would forever change with his passing, but here he is young and alive and that’s how I like to remember him.
Cause she’s got Box-backed nitties… what’s he say?!?!? (Let’s leave that for the scholars)
Calm down Bobby.. it’s no time for screaming like that!

Alright, well.. that was fun.
I guess I should put on the next show and follow my bliss.
5/24/69 you’re up next…

Note:
When they rehearsed and played St. Stephen with regularity, like in 1969, it was such an amazing song.. alas Jerry would remark that he felt that the song was a cop and due to that and less time spent rehearsing, St. Stephen would leave the garden.

If you watch the Grateful Dead Movie with the director’s commentary, Susan Crutcher tells a pretty fascinating story about how, she wanted to include St. Stephen in the section with the photo montage and Jerry was like, we don’t even play that song anymore, and Susan said yeah but it’s sooo good. And while listening to the song repeatedly during the editing process, Jerry’s interest got peaked and that led to the band resurrecting the song in 1976. The story holds water as they were editing the movie in ’76 when St. Stephen came back. Not to mention Susan strikes me as a cool person who would have no reason to embellish a story like that. I found that to be pretty cool and wanted to share.

I love St. Stephen of old!

FOURWINDSBLOW: How much of that there Orange Sunshine did you eat? That's the question...

GOGD-OSS

Enough! That's all I'm saying.

There were just the three of us out of ten that went to the camping site, we were the crazed of the group. The next morning when we went back to the motel room waking everyone up with a hearty breakfast of Orange Sunshine.

Good Show! CSN and The Dead! We went in early and sat right up in front of Jerry.

RE: OSS

FWB - That sounds like Good Times!

You seen that Doc on Orange Sunshine? Pretty fascinating.

That and Heads by Jesse Jarnow.

So much info. Such a Taboo subject... You gotta love it!

Oh Yeah

I just remembered that right before set 2 the band on the stage and the camera rolling a camera guy center stage got me giving the thumbs up as he panned the crowed I know he saw me cause he smiled. Hope it makes it on the official video.

7/16/90

Check out Bucket> Half Step if ya wanted to listen to more that would be okay.

https://archive.org/details/gd1990-07-16.sbd.miller.95782.sbeok.flac16/…

I have a cool story about taking mexican quaaludes at a show....

....I'll fill you in later.
I have a pick to throw into the ring. It's not official, and I'm sure most have you have heard it, although maybe not in a long time (like me). 10.16.81 Club Melk Weg. Amsterdam. Bobby's birthday. One acoustic set. One electric. Borrowed instruments. High AF on hashish. Lovelight bustout after nine years. It's a really fun show. My two sense.
https://archive.org/details/gd1981-10-16.sbd.miller.110351.flac16/gd81-…

Taboo Subject, Let the Good Times Roll

Not sure why this would be a taboo subject here.. the band certainly didn't try to hide it. Besides.. most of this is folklore by now, happening between 55 and 25 years ago. It could be just because I am old and in the way.. but you don't see or hear of it that much these days.

I enjoy reading peoples stories, most of which (probably all that are told on these threads) by far predate any statute of limitation. Like it or leave it, this is American and World History. Let the good times roll (deja que los buenos tiempos pasen, deixe os bons tempos rolarem, laissez le bon temps rouler).

Edit: Speaking of LSD, I finished discs 1 and 2, 3 later. Still one of my favorite 69 releases behind FW and Fillmore Auditorium. I agree with the Good Ole GD.. disc one probably delivers the goods and is the highlight, but my favorite is disc 2 simply because He Was a Friend of Mine > The Eleven speaks to me... As for disc three, I have never met a Morning Dew or an Alligator I did not like. Even the squatty little yeller one with no tail.

vguy 10/16/81 Melk Weg

There was a video of both shows on Youtube, a few years ago, don't know if it is still out there!!

Back to Pow Wow....

....i never met an Alligator i didn't like, and i really like this one. Love the Feedback as well. Great show!!

Mmmmm.....Melk Weg

https://youtu.be/WvvYChZTXMw

https://youtu.be/b4p1zBuqYDk

5-23/24/69 Pow Wow RT 4.1(?)

I actually was awarded this for a prize back in 2010 for the inaugural version of 30 Days of Dead. It was on the 5th day and the song was Playing in the Band from 5/20/73 UCSB. As I recall it was a totally random guess! Funny the things we remember (and what we forget!)

Re: Pow Wow

Couldn't have happened to a better person.

Pow Wow Wow

Had a good time listening to 5/23 & 24/69 today.

The opening Lovelight almost seems to be a prankster response to the rookie mc telling people to be seated... never trust a prankster.

All the banter is fun. The difference between the closing Lovelight & opening Lovelight was interesting as well.
The opening Lovelight seemed to be much more exploratory with different themes being introduced, especially around 14:30, Jerry gets into a cool groove. The Drums > St. Stephen transition was a trip too.

Good stuff all around.

Milkweg is cool, I like Milkweg

11/17/73 Dap 5 is calling me too, I can feel it's pull.

WILFREDTJONES - 30 Days, look forward to it every year, and that's a good prize! Thanks Dead.net for being cool.

JIMINMD - I agree! That subject should not be taboo. May the human exploration into the cosmos and beyond continue!

Alright you all, keep on rockin' looking forward to the next pick here and in my mailbox.. shipping noticed received!

Be Well

Tomorrow's Pick

What's on tap for tomorrow?

Jimbo, good to see you over here. Time for a pick. Send us one.

Still no shipping notice here.

Pick

Oh,.. the pressure. I am not good at this. But since we are on the best sounding of the road trips. I would humbly suggest either the WOS road trips (6/18/74) or the 5/15/70 Road Trips.

If I had my way.. I would pick Louisville 74 in honor of the eminent release (Road Trips Vol 2 No 4). One other ask.. on or about the first received date of the next Dave's Picks. Would it be possible / make sense to hold this show open for a week so both the folks that get it first have time to comment and the folks that get a day (or six) later have time to participate? Seems reasonable to me. So a week and day of 1974?

Pick

We could do 'From Egypt With Love?' Mix it up a little.

Real great Stella Blue even with the audience patch.

Pick TOO

I want to pick a show Vguy saw. It was his second and it cooks!

Jim's Pick

Good choice, let's do The RT.2.3. Shows from 6/16 and 6/18 74.

I like your idea for Dave's #34.

FourWinds, let's hit up The From Egypt with Love RT tomorrow. 10/21 and 10/22 78. I have not listened to this one in a while.

Thanks guys.

Deadvikes Egypt with love tomorrow

How funny i was grilling last night and I listened to half of the first CD!! Now i have a reason to listen to the rest.. bob t

orange sunshine

there was orange sunshine in the 90's? I only remember it back in the 60's and early 70's and it was the bomb, 4 way hits, which meant you only needed to take a quarter of a hit and they were kinda small, so it was quite easy to take a bit too much. :o fun times indeed. Did some yellow sunshine back then too, it was suppose to be 8 way, never did more than a crumb of that stuff, talk about mind blown. They don't make it like that anymore.
Mexican quaaludes, mandrax I think they were called, not the same as 714's but still lots of fun, they had an antihistamine in the mix to help keep you awake the first 30 mins or so, then it was all fun and stumbling and falling and laughing and feeling invincible, sure wish they hadn't outlawed that drug, one on my favorites. Ever try ludes and acid together? wow, what an experience that was, add some black nepalese hash on top and you are now in heaven. Back in those days, it was ok to have a trove of drugs, like Hunter Thompson said in fear and loathing:
"We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers...and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can." and push it we did.

O S

If it wasn't O S it was very good and very clean. After our first dabble we stayed up all night looking for the girl that had it bought a bunch and ate it all day. Don't want to put misinfo out there but, thats what she called it, we had a good time.

6.18.74 sounds most excellent (Wyld Stallyns guitar riff)....

....cueing it up now on the Archive (i don't own the physical copy). Avatar updated. Four winds says he wants top pick a show i saw? I recently listed my attended shows if you want to look. Just don't choose 5.19.95. Yuck. Vocal drop outs during the Freedom Hall Promised opener. Good ole Wall Of Sound.

Vguy

Check your PM.

Wall of Sound

Many happy Road Trips over the years. Just finishing 5/23/69 lovelight . Amazing all the changes from live-dead era into Workingman’s era , nothing short of phenomenal creative drive.
There were a few lackluster Dead shows in the 70s ,but I never went to one back then that was less than amazing.
Would like to see a board tape of UCSB May 74 with Great American String Band set official release. Maria was real hot also. 74 was a banner year.
Seminole Powwow kicked ass. Dark Star was super improvisational . The 11 was exciting . Love-Light was also reflective of the youthful vigor of the band at that time.
Miss Indian World ,Cheyenne Kippenberger 2019-2021, is from the Hollywood , Florida Band of Seminole Tribe. Met her in Albuquerque during Gathering of Nations Powwow a year ago. She’s a real good person from one of the strongest of all the tribes in the country.
I still nominate 5/2/70 for this Saturday on its 50th anniversary .

Vguy

I suggested the 2nd ever show you saw. I thought this show had some unique Jerry playing on it especially for the time period. If we don't get to listen to it I'll understand but, maybe you can give your take on it I thought it was good for the time.

Ps. Fun fact, though I've never counted till today I got 28 of the 39 I saw on video.

You mean Anaheim Stadium?....

....it's View From The Vault 1. Maybe a video of the day with discussion is in order?
6.18.74's Ramble-On Rose was so good, i played it twice!!
pm checked

Meet Up At The Movie

Quarantine style. Sounds good!

Pick has Started = Contact High

Alright, firing up 6/16/74 and already WOW on Sound Quality and playing on China Cat..

My Completist OCD has prevented me from frequent listening of this & from Egypt with Love.
It might be cool to hear them both again in their compilation order... already struggling with the whole notion of rearranged songs.. Deep Breath.. they sound good.

Talking about Orange Sunshine, Mexican Quaaludes, Ludes & Acid, HST gave me a nice Contact Buzz!

Thanks UNKLE SAM & FWB for that.. Keep ‘em coming.

I was still tripping from the Great Pow Wow! Both nights rocked real good. I dug that.

He Was A Friend & Death Don't were real good too hear again, along with all the rest of that psychedelic stuff.

Good times!

Meet Up At The Movies Quarantine Style sounds Awesome!

Shake up the Shakedown Stream.. with a little bonus footage:)

This Eyes sounds real nice..

EDIT: And 5/2/70 Anniversary sounds promising as well!!

The Logistics....

....to have everyone cue up View From The Vault at the same time would be incredibly incredible. Zoom Meeting?!

RE:VGUY72 - Zoom Meeting

Bad Ass!

ZoooooooooooM!....

....I'm considered essential, but I'm off this Saturday and Sunday. jUSt SaYIn'.

6/16

Eyes, Playin. Nice! Nobodys Jam, now were going old school. Love it!

RE: Zoom Vault View

VGUY - Saturday works for me! PST

And 6/16 Eyes > Stronger Than Dirt > Big River is super!

Keith's piano... is he using a pedal or what's going on there?

Video pick?

If nobody has interest in the '87 Anaheim second choice would be in honor of the resident care-taker of the Vault, the man on the inside. With Dave's very first pick 'Truckin' Up To Buffalo' '89.

RE: Video Pick?

FWB - 4/10/20 - Shakedown Stream was "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" but 7/7/89 "Crimson White & Indigo" might have you in the crowd somewhere? Haven't seen that in awhile.

I'm down for View From The Vault V1 or '87 or whatever, just maybe something other than "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" as I just watched that recent. Just sayin'

DL said this week Shakedown Stream would be Closing of Winterland.

Alright, stoked to hear this 6/16/74 PITB for 28 minutes, but gotta wait till later and take care of some business first...

Be Well you All

GOGD

Yeah I forgot they did the '89 show but , The one I was talking about that i could be on film was Buffalo '90. Sorry for any confusion. JFK '89 we were in the bleachers half way back Jerry, Brent side.

I have the opener and the main act on audience video from Buffalo '90.

6/18/74

Had to cue this one up on archive too, (and will tomorrow's "From Egypt" pick.) I really don't know why I slept on these Road Trip releases - I guess I was put off by the cut-up nature. Oh well - LMA is a-ok with me :) Just now on "Roses."

I had to run out for my weekly grocery trip yesterday, and Sirius was playing "To Lay Me Down" from Jai-Alai - sounded very good, though I am not sure if it was the soon to be delivered version or not.

I know that many here already know this, but if not, the Freedom Hall show "Eyes" is the version that Holly Bowling does on solo piano. She apparently transcribed the whole jam. I have never directly compared them note for note, but her version is really great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voLdRQ-19dc

EDIT: She actually does her own "version" of the verses, but the jam is transcribed. On "BTW" and it looks like the WoS has settled in and is sounding better - still some vocal drops, but the band sounds incredible!

Peace