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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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June 18, 2020 - 10:03pm

#6751

Vguy72

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The Slipknot! Outta Samson....

....they are sonically surfing. Fuck yeah!!
June 18, 2020 - 9:23pm

#6752

Vguy72

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10.9.76 Second Set....

St. Stephen ->
NFA ->
St. Stephen ->
Help On The Way ->
Slipknot! ->
Drumz->
Samson & Delilah->
Slipknot! ->
Franklin's Tower ->
One More Saturday Night
-
US Blues

Notice the ->'s. The Music Never Stops indeed!!
I crave this set. Nom, nom, nom.
Garcia hits a couple sour notes at the start, but then the ship rights itself and onward we go!!!
June 18, 2020 - 9:04pm

#6753

DeadVikes

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10/9/76

Yes, always a winner for me. And I agree Oroborous, you can hear the band moving quite a bit different than they were in June 76. Love the Scarlets from this era. New Minglewood rocks. The whole second set rocks. Man, what a run it was. Looking forward to 10/10/76 tomorrow.........
And again Bolo you were there! Really cool, you got to see some unbelievable shows...Yes, these guys were masters of delivering a different experience every time they went out there. Genius, absolutely! Would love to see some of those pics. Might be time for another Bolo pick soon?

Hang in there Oroborous, we love you man and don't take it personally. I would say over 90% of my comments are met with crickets, but that is okay.

Good to see you Bob t. Nothing to say, yes that 6/18/74 show is really good. Jim gave us that pick a while back and that RT2.3 is solid. Can't believe at one point I didn't pursue it because it was not complete shows. What an idiot!

Be well folks! Finally hot here in MN. Always reminds of summer dead shows.
June 18, 2020 - 8:38pm

#6754

The Good Ole G…

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Walnut Creek

Damn, you saw all the fun stuff!

Funny, I was just reading about Pete Townsend and that he was living there at the time.

I guess his daughter wrote about it in her autobiography and mentioned being an "American Suburb Child" with the likes of Justin Kreutzmann.

Sounds like Pete mighta been hanging with Jerry & the boys off work :)

BTW this show is epic, but you already knew that...

More to come, my contacts are making it hard to see or at least something is.

Peace Out :)

EDIT: PS - really want to see that picture (and all the pictures)!

Good afternoon(s)
June 18, 2020 - 7:55pm

#6755

JimInMD

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Just Catching Up

Haven't read all the posts, I have literally spent every waking hour the last two days refinishing my 116 year old original gothic style (I think) front door. Big, heavy, way too much detail and relief work in the wood and probably neglected for at least 20 to 25 years. It's the only thing that I haven't redone in the front of the house.

We are not entertaining indoors for all the river rats this year, so the front porch has a welcomed haven and keeps the river rat traffic from entering the home.. But the door has been bothering me for a year or two. This social distancing stuff sucks, but it's better than the alternative. Outdoors and safely apart.. so I bit the bullet and fixed the one thing that was bothering me. ..and man, it was a beast. Two full days just to get it sanded, the wood treated and a stained. Whew, I did f'up the stain, the hard part is over.

So anyway.. catching up on posts. The day on the green.. wow. To have been there! Second.. Oroboros, you should worry not.. you are one of the most entertaining, kindest people that writes shit here. This whole thread has been a good vibe haven.

Now.. I after leaning over a fixed space using electric sanders, Dremel's, hand sanding until my fingers are raw, dropping and spilling shit, I could go on... Werewolves of Friendsville. So I am filling up a very strong drink and
reading the last two days of posts here.

Back to your regularly scheduled Help/Slipknot!/Franklins.

How whoooo.. Werewolf's of London.
June 18, 2020 - 6:40pm

#6756

bolo24

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Days on the Green 1976

Went to both Dead/Who shows, took tons of pictures as I was pretty close to the stage and even managed to sneak "sorta" backstage for a spell. Somewhere in my bottomless pit of boxed-up possessions, I have a picture of Garcia dancing with his shirt off during The Who's set - my hand to God.

The Who played great, but both shows were identical, almost note for note it seemed. I think they had an extended encore the second day, but the rest was the same, IIRC. GD knocked it out of the park, of course. And the stage looked awesome, thanks to Bill Graham and company.

I read somewhere soon after the shows that an amazed Townshend quizzed Garcia about how in the world could they play 2 completely different shows on consecutive days, and said The Who had been playing the same show for months, even years, maybe.

Anyway, there were definitely separate camps of Who/Dead fans with little crossover that I could notice. But the weather was perfect and everyone had a blast.

Interesting side note: I was living in Berkeley at the time, and the summer before (1975), Pete Townshend and family resided in Walnut Creek, a town about 15 minutes from Berkeley. Can't remember why they were there, though.
June 18, 2020 - 3:37pm

#6757

The Good Ole G…

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Spew On!

Man we need your input, insight and one of a kind stories and adventures so keep on growin’, Keep on flowin’ yeah yeah yeah.

I can’t speak for the others but personal recounts of show experiences, for me in context with the shows we’re listening to, is priceless.

So keep rolling em, cuz that’s the good shit.

Now go buy your Garcia & Kahn disc so you get the free bonus show.

Thanks Bro, keep ‘em coming!
June 18, 2020 - 3:11pm

#6758

Oroborous

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GOGD

Your too kind. I didn’t mean you. Your always thoughtful and inclusive. It’s just that certain folks tell stories and everyone goes nuts. I spend valuable time trying for fun and interesting reads and often get little or no reply...nothing, crickets...a shut the F up would at least be something....so I’ll take that as a sign to shut up and just regurgitate the usual line of cheerleader BS that is the status quo here. It’s cool, I just thought folks liked to hear/learn about something besides the same 30 or 40 shows over and over every year? Back in the day our 2nd favorite pass time besides going to shows, was to debate shows. Not to argue or “be right” etc, but just back and forth banter cause it was fun. Like some working shmucks at the bar arguing about the Yankees or what not.
Sorry, not meant as a rant, just an awakening of sorts. All is well as Kevin Bacon says at the end of Animal House!
I’ll just try to lurk more and spew less lol...

Oh, and that was only the second time we ever flew to shows and we camped as much or more than we hoteled. When we did, there were usually too many people in the room, ya know, normal tour style! Lol
So though we did “style it” comparatively, it was a vacation and one time thing and as I say I got stuck paying for not just my end but a bunch of free loaders too. Funny because I had just got my first CC for this trip and ended up taking quite awhile to unfuck it! But it was totally worth it!
Okay, giving 10/9/76 set 2 another pass!
Thanks again for your support, good vibes, and all the interesting info you present us.
June 18, 2020 - 2:26pm

#6759

bob t

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Thanks Deadvikes

For your concern!! Just haven't had anything to say!!!! Other than it is 6/18/74 Louisville anniversary!!! Bob t
June 18, 2020 - 1:31pm

#6760

The Good Ole G…

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RE: Tough Crowd

OROBOROUS - Crickets...

Haha.. Man it was good and definitely got some chuckles. Nice recount too, very well done.

Didn't see it till later and was too burnt to come up with any clever retorts.

Sounds like you were doing it up right bro.

Creating some life long memories to revisit along with the shows :)

You were definitely touring in way more style then we did.. but the majority of my touring was during my broke ass teenage years. I shoulda stayed on the road, but the call of the wild made me venture off in a different direction and once I made it back, things in the scene just weren't the same and honestly neither was I.

Glad you were able to talk yourself out of the broken sink and pat the darling little kid on the head with a wink.

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro!"

Thank you for a real good time ..

BTW October '76 is Kickin!!! Nice call.
Slipknot!

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

Orange Sunshine

I remember Buffalo '90 we had motel room like right across the street from the stadium I know it was in walking distance. Anyway we went up a day ahead and went to The Anchor Bar for wings and pizza. Then we went to The Falls Canadian side my buddy had family up there. That night we got back to the room we took the bed spread off the beds and went down where they were camping and stayed up all night eating Orange Sunshine and drinking Fosters.

1969-05-23 - Road Trip!

I know it’s a surprise, but the Highlight = Dark Star > St. Stephen > Eleven > Lovelight

The Infamous Dark Star Suite of ’69!

Dark Star
If I waxed poetic, I’d go on and on about this Dark Star, but mostly I wanna say, it’s got the Vibraslap, and I love the Vibraslap, especially in Dark Star, and therefore I love this Dark Star.

St. Stephen!
Can’t beat a Classic Version like this. You get the Xylophone, Cannon, William Tell Bridge, it’s all there. This is a great St. Stephen of old.

The Eleven
It’s good! Crazy good you ask? Well.. Crazy good might be a bit much, but it’s good I say!

Turn On Your Lovelight
Sir Ron McKernan aka Pigpen with his blues and soul. I’ve come to feel that Pigpen is a tragic figure, and the band would forever change with his passing, but here he is young and alive and that’s how I like to remember him.
Cause she’s got Box-backed nitties… what’s he say?!?!? (Let’s leave that for the scholars)
Calm down Bobby.. it’s no time for screaming like that!

Alright, well.. that was fun.
I guess I should put on the next show and follow my bliss.
5/24/69 you’re up next…

Note:
When they rehearsed and played St. Stephen with regularity, like in 1969, it was such an amazing song.. alas Jerry would remark that he felt that the song was a cop and due to that and less time spent rehearsing, St. Stephen would leave the garden.

If you watch the Grateful Dead Movie with the director’s commentary, Susan Crutcher tells a pretty fascinating story about how, she wanted to include St. Stephen in the section with the photo montage and Jerry was like, we don’t even play that song anymore, and Susan said yeah but it’s sooo good. And while listening to the song repeatedly during the editing process, Jerry’s interest got peaked and that led to the band resurrecting the song in 1976. The story holds water as they were editing the movie in ’76 when St. Stephen came back. Not to mention Susan strikes me as a cool person who would have no reason to embellish a story like that. I found that to be pretty cool and wanted to share.

I love St. Stephen of old!

FOURWINDSBLOW: How much of that there Orange Sunshine did you eat? That's the question...

GOGD-OSS

Enough! That's all I'm saying.

There were just the three of us out of ten that went to the camping site, we were the crazed of the group. The next morning when we went back to the motel room waking everyone up with a hearty breakfast of Orange Sunshine.

Good Show! CSN and The Dead! We went in early and sat right up in front of Jerry.

RE: OSS

FWB - That sounds like Good Times!

You seen that Doc on Orange Sunshine? Pretty fascinating.

That and Heads by Jesse Jarnow.

So much info. Such a Taboo subject... You gotta love it!

Oh Yeah

I just remembered that right before set 2 the band on the stage and the camera rolling a camera guy center stage got me giving the thumbs up as he panned the crowed I know he saw me cause he smiled. Hope it makes it on the official video.

7/16/90

Check out Bucket> Half Step if ya wanted to listen to more that would be okay.

https://archive.org/details/gd1990-07-16.sbd.miller.95782.sbeok.flac16/…

I have a cool story about taking mexican quaaludes at a show....

....I'll fill you in later.
I have a pick to throw into the ring. It's not official, and I'm sure most have you have heard it, although maybe not in a long time (like me). 10.16.81 Club Melk Weg. Amsterdam. Bobby's birthday. One acoustic set. One electric. Borrowed instruments. High AF on hashish. Lovelight bustout after nine years. It's a really fun show. My two sense.
https://archive.org/details/gd1981-10-16.sbd.miller.110351.flac16/gd81-…

Taboo Subject, Let the Good Times Roll

Not sure why this would be a taboo subject here.. the band certainly didn't try to hide it. Besides.. most of this is folklore by now, happening between 55 and 25 years ago. It could be just because I am old and in the way.. but you don't see or hear of it that much these days.

I enjoy reading peoples stories, most of which (probably all that are told on these threads) by far predate any statute of limitation. Like it or leave it, this is American and World History. Let the good times roll (deja que los buenos tiempos pasen, deixe os bons tempos rolarem, laissez le bon temps rouler).

Edit: Speaking of LSD, I finished discs 1 and 2, 3 later. Still one of my favorite 69 releases behind FW and Fillmore Auditorium. I agree with the Good Ole GD.. disc one probably delivers the goods and is the highlight, but my favorite is disc 2 simply because He Was a Friend of Mine > The Eleven speaks to me... As for disc three, I have never met a Morning Dew or an Alligator I did not like. Even the squatty little yeller one with no tail.

vguy 10/16/81 Melk Weg

There was a video of both shows on Youtube, a few years ago, don't know if it is still out there!!

Back to Pow Wow....

....i never met an Alligator i didn't like, and i really like this one. Love the Feedback as well. Great show!!

Mmmmm.....Melk Weg

https://youtu.be/WvvYChZTXMw

https://youtu.be/b4p1zBuqYDk

5-23/24/69 Pow Wow RT 4.1(?)

I actually was awarded this for a prize back in 2010 for the inaugural version of 30 Days of Dead. It was on the 5th day and the song was Playing in the Band from 5/20/73 UCSB. As I recall it was a totally random guess! Funny the things we remember (and what we forget!)

Re: Pow Wow

Couldn't have happened to a better person.

Pow Wow Wow

Had a good time listening to 5/23 & 24/69 today.

The opening Lovelight almost seems to be a prankster response to the rookie mc telling people to be seated... never trust a prankster.

All the banter is fun. The difference between the closing Lovelight & opening Lovelight was interesting as well.
The opening Lovelight seemed to be much more exploratory with different themes being introduced, especially around 14:30, Jerry gets into a cool groove. The Drums > St. Stephen transition was a trip too.

Good stuff all around.

Milkweg is cool, I like Milkweg

11/17/73 Dap 5 is calling me too, I can feel it's pull.

WILFREDTJONES - 30 Days, look forward to it every year, and that's a good prize! Thanks Dead.net for being cool.

JIMINMD - I agree! That subject should not be taboo. May the human exploration into the cosmos and beyond continue!

Alright you all, keep on rockin' looking forward to the next pick here and in my mailbox.. shipping noticed received!

Be Well

Tomorrow's Pick

What's on tap for tomorrow?

Jimbo, good to see you over here. Time for a pick. Send us one.

Still no shipping notice here.

Pick

Oh,.. the pressure. I am not good at this. But since we are on the best sounding of the road trips. I would humbly suggest either the WOS road trips (6/18/74) or the 5/15/70 Road Trips.

If I had my way.. I would pick Louisville 74 in honor of the eminent release (Road Trips Vol 2 No 4). One other ask.. on or about the first received date of the next Dave's Picks. Would it be possible / make sense to hold this show open for a week so both the folks that get it first have time to comment and the folks that get a day (or six) later have time to participate? Seems reasonable to me. So a week and day of 1974?

Pick

We could do 'From Egypt With Love?' Mix it up a little.

Real great Stella Blue even with the audience patch.

Pick TOO

I want to pick a show Vguy saw. It was his second and it cooks!

Jim's Pick

Good choice, let's do The RT.2.3. Shows from 6/16 and 6/18 74.

I like your idea for Dave's #34.

FourWinds, let's hit up The From Egypt with Love RT tomorrow. 10/21 and 10/22 78. I have not listened to this one in a while.

Thanks guys.

Deadvikes Egypt with love tomorrow

How funny i was grilling last night and I listened to half of the first CD!! Now i have a reason to listen to the rest.. bob t

orange sunshine

there was orange sunshine in the 90's? I only remember it back in the 60's and early 70's and it was the bomb, 4 way hits, which meant you only needed to take a quarter of a hit and they were kinda small, so it was quite easy to take a bit too much. :o fun times indeed. Did some yellow sunshine back then too, it was suppose to be 8 way, never did more than a crumb of that stuff, talk about mind blown. They don't make it like that anymore.
Mexican quaaludes, mandrax I think they were called, not the same as 714's but still lots of fun, they had an antihistamine in the mix to help keep you awake the first 30 mins or so, then it was all fun and stumbling and falling and laughing and feeling invincible, sure wish they hadn't outlawed that drug, one on my favorites. Ever try ludes and acid together? wow, what an experience that was, add some black nepalese hash on top and you are now in heaven. Back in those days, it was ok to have a trove of drugs, like Hunter Thompson said in fear and loathing:
"We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers...and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can." and push it we did.

O S

If it wasn't O S it was very good and very clean. After our first dabble we stayed up all night looking for the girl that had it bought a bunch and ate it all day. Don't want to put misinfo out there but, thats what she called it, we had a good time.

6.18.74 sounds most excellent (Wyld Stallyns guitar riff)....

....cueing it up now on the Archive (i don't own the physical copy). Avatar updated. Four winds says he wants top pick a show i saw? I recently listed my attended shows if you want to look. Just don't choose 5.19.95. Yuck. Vocal drop outs during the Freedom Hall Promised opener. Good ole Wall Of Sound.

Vguy

Check your PM.

Wall of Sound

Many happy Road Trips over the years. Just finishing 5/23/69 lovelight . Amazing all the changes from live-dead era into Workingman’s era , nothing short of phenomenal creative drive.
There were a few lackluster Dead shows in the 70s ,but I never went to one back then that was less than amazing.
Would like to see a board tape of UCSB May 74 with Great American String Band set official release. Maria was real hot also. 74 was a banner year.
Seminole Powwow kicked ass. Dark Star was super improvisational . The 11 was exciting . Love-Light was also reflective of the youthful vigor of the band at that time.
Miss Indian World ,Cheyenne Kippenberger 2019-2021, is from the Hollywood , Florida Band of Seminole Tribe. Met her in Albuquerque during Gathering of Nations Powwow a year ago. She’s a real good person from one of the strongest of all the tribes in the country.
I still nominate 5/2/70 for this Saturday on its 50th anniversary .

Vguy

I suggested the 2nd ever show you saw. I thought this show had some unique Jerry playing on it especially for the time period. If we don't get to listen to it I'll understand but, maybe you can give your take on it I thought it was good for the time.

Ps. Fun fact, though I've never counted till today I got 28 of the 39 I saw on video.

You mean Anaheim Stadium?....

....it's View From The Vault 1. Maybe a video of the day with discussion is in order?
6.18.74's Ramble-On Rose was so good, i played it twice!!
pm checked

Meet Up At The Movie

Quarantine style. Sounds good!

Pick has Started = Contact High

Alright, firing up 6/16/74 and already WOW on Sound Quality and playing on China Cat..

My Completist OCD has prevented me from frequent listening of this & from Egypt with Love.
It might be cool to hear them both again in their compilation order... already struggling with the whole notion of rearranged songs.. Deep Breath.. they sound good.

Talking about Orange Sunshine, Mexican Quaaludes, Ludes & Acid, HST gave me a nice Contact Buzz!

Thanks UNKLE SAM & FWB for that.. Keep ‘em coming.

I was still tripping from the Great Pow Wow! Both nights rocked real good. I dug that.

He Was A Friend & Death Don't were real good too hear again, along with all the rest of that psychedelic stuff.

Good times!

Meet Up At The Movies Quarantine Style sounds Awesome!

Shake up the Shakedown Stream.. with a little bonus footage:)

This Eyes sounds real nice..

EDIT: And 5/2/70 Anniversary sounds promising as well!!

The Logistics....

....to have everyone cue up View From The Vault at the same time would be incredibly incredible. Zoom Meeting?!

RE:VGUY72 - Zoom Meeting

Bad Ass!

ZoooooooooooM!....

....I'm considered essential, but I'm off this Saturday and Sunday. jUSt SaYIn'.

6/16

Eyes, Playin. Nice! Nobodys Jam, now were going old school. Love it!

RE: Zoom Vault View

VGUY - Saturday works for me! PST

And 6/16 Eyes > Stronger Than Dirt > Big River is super!

Keith's piano... is he using a pedal or what's going on there?

Video pick?

If nobody has interest in the '87 Anaheim second choice would be in honor of the resident care-taker of the Vault, the man on the inside. With Dave's very first pick 'Truckin' Up To Buffalo' '89.

RE: Video Pick?

FWB - 4/10/20 - Shakedown Stream was "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" but 7/7/89 "Crimson White & Indigo" might have you in the crowd somewhere? Haven't seen that in awhile.

I'm down for View From The Vault V1 or '87 or whatever, just maybe something other than "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" as I just watched that recent. Just sayin'

DL said this week Shakedown Stream would be Closing of Winterland.

Alright, stoked to hear this 6/16/74 PITB for 28 minutes, but gotta wait till later and take care of some business first...

Be Well you All

GOGD

Yeah I forgot they did the '89 show but , The one I was talking about that i could be on film was Buffalo '90. Sorry for any confusion. JFK '89 we were in the bleachers half way back Jerry, Brent side.

I have the opener and the main act on audience video from Buffalo '90.

6/18/74

Had to cue this one up on archive too, (and will tomorrow's "From Egypt" pick.) I really don't know why I slept on these Road Trip releases - I guess I was put off by the cut-up nature. Oh well - LMA is a-ok with me :) Just now on "Roses."

I had to run out for my weekly grocery trip yesterday, and Sirius was playing "To Lay Me Down" from Jai-Alai - sounded very good, though I am not sure if it was the soon to be delivered version or not.

I know that many here already know this, but if not, the Freedom Hall show "Eyes" is the version that Holly Bowling does on solo piano. She apparently transcribed the whole jam. I have never directly compared them note for note, but her version is really great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voLdRQ-19dc

EDIT: She actually does her own "version" of the verses, but the jam is transcribed. On "BTW" and it looks like the WoS has settled in and is sounding better - still some vocal drops, but the band sounds incredible!

Peace