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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • #5491
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    Agree dvikes. Keithfan used the term Kill Zone (69 through 74) though I would use 70-74, 77.

    Interesting pick. Digesting it a bit, they have gotten a bit formulaic, the first two from the kill zone, the third the head scratcher and the fourth, pot luck. It's good to mix things up, I would never want to be called predictable.

    I guess this whole conversation belongs on the other thread, but oh bother.. it's already written here.

    Since I got in 5/26 already, I guess I have the rest of the day to catch up on what I missed.

    Good vibes, good people and most importantly good shows on this thread. Haven't seen Bolo for a while, we can only assume geopolitical chaos is on the rise. Be good all..

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    Yes, I had early April 78 from the returned reels for a 2021 release. Didn't pick a specific show, however. Also thought we would see the Kezar 73 show. Who knows, maybe #38??
    Someone pointed out that this show would not fit on 3 CDs, so not sure. I think 72 is also due this year, not sure when.

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    5/26 is a winner.
    19 Songs in Set 1 = Holy Shit!
    Just finished the PITB, love me some '72 Playin'

    DV - Didn't you call '78?
    I thought it was you.
    Yeah, digging into the old ABCD stash.

    I wanna visit the Vault Cage, it's officially on my bucket list.
    I heard there's a picture of Dick at the entrance.
    Latvala! That is.. not the other Dick ;)

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    The last night! Sounds like a winner to me and yes the version from the 2011 box far exceeds the original release. Having missed out on the box, this was the first stand alone show I picked up and I couldn't believe how good the sound quality was and of course the full uncut show. I think I am up to 9 individual shows now and of course I am getting close to the original box price. That is life. I have 4/11/ coming today. Picked that one up for $25.

    Sounds like a big project Jim and you are doing it yourself, I am impressed.

    The announcement of Dave's 37 is interesting. I think this is the first time they have lead off with a 78 show. This show is part of the returned reels from the ABCD transaction. Not surprised we are getting it. And now up to 25,000 copies which I believe is the limit due to their old contract with Arista.

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    Damn Jim, you're a busy guy.
    I'm impressed.

    The DaP V37 announcement made me interested in '78 a bit, so I stumbled into 2/4/78 fun show!
    Dug 10/23/73, after reading Jim's post I feel like I didn't give 10/19 the attention it deserved, but I think it was a Monday or something... that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

    Shit I like 18 minute PITBs from 72. Think it's been awhile for me.
    I'm hip with that. I fail to bring up E'72 as it felt like a few folks were taking the anniversary trip in May, but I didn't so that works for me.

    And that's a true story folks! - Phil after Dupree's 2/4/78

    Interested on DaP thoughts. I like the idea of 4/18/78 Set 2 as the Bonus material.
    What say yous?

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    Been a bit busy dvikes, thanks for checking in.. had one last project involving exterior trim I needed to get up before winter.. involved harnessing up and trancing upon a steep sloped metal roof (roped in of course) moving and installing heavy pieces of exterior PVC corner board. oh, and getting rid of the 100 year old rotten stuff first, which might have been the most unnerving part.

    Plus.. it was 75 degrees and sunny all week, needless to say this means getting in one last short sleeve river run before all hell breaks loose and everything ices up. Had some fun with that one.. let's just say I had a little help enjoying the last of the terrific fall colors we had this year. It was an electric day.

    So I am way behind. Honestly.. I just finished 10/19/73 Wednesday night. I must add.. being extremely mood enabled for that one helped, what a fantastic show and one of the favorite Dark Stars and arguably my favorite DS>MDews. Simply amazing and always one of my favorite all time releases.

    So with cold rain (and temperatures that might bring) snow all week, time to transition to indoor life. This starts the gloomy part of the year where I live. Cold, windy, often raining, icing or snowing, but not good enough snow to ski or do anything meaningful outside. This is the time of the year that has that ice component that makes everything outdoors difficult.

    I have to admit.. it feels good to put away my harness and rope and be done with exterior work and heights. For one.. I suck at it and man is it stressful. Measuring every step and carefully judging how much I can lean out and get some reach. In my youth I climbed a lot, but comfortably in middle age I lost height skills long ago and it's tremendously stressful leaning out over stuff measuring, hanging, screwing, painting and caulking. If I could have hired out the work I would have.

    Time to relax and catch up.. which is exactly what I did this morning. Woke up hours before dawn, made some fantastic coffee, cleaned up a bit and headed outside to soak in the tub ease some tension and contemplate things.. now what to listen to? Something cerebral and reflective.. how about the complete second set of 5/26/72.. overdone, yes, a good bit of it was included on the original E72 which I bet most of us cut our teeth on decades ago. But there is something to the original uncut sequence that is satisfying. It's a masterpiece that really doesn't get the attention it deserves because of the plucked out sequences that appear on the album.

    Interesting choice for #37. I am more drawn to the next night, but hey.. I'll take it.

    What's in store today?

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    Great show Bob t, GOGD. Where is Jim?

    Yes, that Wang Dang Doodle is not the encore. When I pulled it up on Relisten it had it as the last song, so I assumed it was the encore. No real vocals either, but I thought I could here Garcia singing a little.

    Yes, seems like an early announcement for subscriptions, but that is okay. Should be another great year on the Dead front.

    The video also references Norman is already working on the 2021 Box. Hope we don't have to wait until fall 2021....

    And we know we aren't getting a second Box. I wish they would put some sort of release out during December. It would be fun.

    Everybody stay well out there. 🤠

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    Bizarre hearing a fight break out at a Dead show.

    Other than that, seems like a really fun time.

    They're just so damn good in 1973!
    Black Throated Wind has some real cool Keith stuff going on. Brown Eyed Women was standing out to me too. And Set 2 is essentially a monster jam.
    Pretty sure the Wang Dang Doodle is from the Soundcheck, off the top of my head the earliest version in circulation.
    I'm with Bob T, this show gets overlooked by me, possibly due to the lack of PITB.
    But I'm glad I checked it out today, Nice Pick!

    Here's a little synchronicity for today's Dead pick:
    I was looking at Anniversary shows on today's date in my collection.
    So I typed in 10-23 and looked em over, something that stood out, was 10/23/93 Taper's Section track, when I look into it, it was a Rehearsal take of... wait for it... Wang Dang Doodle.
    Pretty neat.

    And... Dave's Picks 2021 V37 has been announced.
    I think somebody here called that year.
    I won't spoil it until you've had a chance to check it out.

    Happy Friday!

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    Always down for some fall 73 and this is one I haven’t heard yet!

    GOGD: thanks for the intel. I must of confused CC Rider with something else....(think Homer Simpson voice “Dooaah, stoopid memory”)

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    I am definitely in on this one Bob t. Have it going now. Wang Dang Doodle encore! Cool, I loved this tune in the later years and didn't know they played it this early in their career.

    The Met Center, former home of the MN North Stars. Saw the boys there in 88 and 89. Today, this is where the Mall of America sits.

    Would love to go back in time to see the scene their in 1973, can't imagine.

    They usually played at the St. Paul Civic Center in the 1970s, so this is interesting.

    Thanks Bob t, good call. Sound quality is really good so far.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/29/2020 - 14:53

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....between Four Winds and myself. Middle of TN Jed. I'm staring straight at that Morning Dew like a headlight on a northbound train.

What a release Jim, thanks for this pick. I am with Daverock on this one, might be one of the best releases.

I shied away from this one forever, because it was not a complete show. What a huge mistake that was.

Sound quality is A++. If Dave's 34 sounds anything like this we are in for a huge treat.

The China Rider is awesome. Two unreal Eyes. Yes, That Loose Lucy is really good. How about that Morning Dew. WRS, Truckin! All top notch stuff.
To the great soul that turned me on to this release, this one is for you!

Tommorow, we hit up FourWinds pick, From Egypt with Love!

Be well folks!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/29/2020 - 19:18

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....features an If I Had The World To Give. A top five song that I wish they played more often. The others?
Gentlemen, Start Your Engines (saw one and it was pretty cool)
Brother Esau (never saw one)
Built To Last (tough lyrics. I get it. Saw two)
Clementine (nada)
France (saw three. In dreams).
Dead & Co brought back World To Give. And they were pretty nice.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/29/2020 - 19:41

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On the waterproof shuffle, WOS Road Trips. Both shows are excellent as is the sound. 6/16 highlights for me are China>Rider (powerful), Race is On (one of the better versions, sometimes in these electric versions the vocals are all over the place.. this one is a ok), a monster Eyes (more on this later) and nice Big River and a monster PITB.

Excellent

But 6/18 delivers the goods. One of the all-time Eyes>China Dolls. The performance and transition flawless, poweful and seamless. A jazz masterpiece. I think the version on the GD Movie (10/19?) is more popular and certainly sounds better.. but on the movie soundtrack, they cut and edited out one of the jams. I think the transition from 6/18 is better, and it's my favorite. Not a wasted note or chord, everything on purpose and just exactly right. but I am biased. A high water mark.

WRSuite, TOO, I Know It's a Sin, Stella Blue, and perhaps the best Morning Dew of the period rounds out the release. There is a bit of mayhem but it works.. just be patient. I have gotten used to the I know it's a Sin jam and when I listen to it.. I fill in the words. Powerful stuff. A potent part of the set.

Too bad it's a chop job, but it's a great release.. also, to my ears, this was the show where Jeffrey Norman went from Jeffrey the Grey to Jeffrey the White. This was about the period when he really stepped up his game to wizard status. This sounds (to me) head and antlers above the best copies on the archive. Working directly from the Master Reels and by this point in his career having acquired quite the bag of tricks makes a big difference.

That's all I have. Also.. I was remiss last night asking for more time for the new 74 release. There is a whole other place for that on the Dave's Picks thread. We should keep this the way it is. I like the idea of 5/2/70 on it's birthday and I hope someone brings up the 5/15/70 road trips as well.

Edit: Thank goodness they deemed whitewater kayaking as an acceptable social distance sport.. but the shuttles in the truck are a bit taboo.. but not if you bike the shuttle, which just gives you a little extra alone time to grove to the GD.

On it for Saturday. Good idea Strider, Jim and Vguy.

Vguy, interesting you bring up "If I had the world to give", I used to sing this song to my daughter when she was really young.

Okay, never thought I would post that but you brought it up.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 04/29/2020 - 21:15

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If I had the world to give, I'd give it to you
Long as you live, would you let it fall, or hold it all in your arms?
If I had a song to sing, I'd sing it to you
As long as you live, lullaby or maybe a plain serenade
Wouldn't you laugh, dance, and cry or be afraid at the change you made
I may not have the world to give to you
But maybe I have a tune or two
Only if you let me be your world
Could I ever give this world to you
But I will give what love I have to give,
I will give what love I have to give,
I will give what love I have to give, long as I live.
If I had a star to give, I'd give it to you
Long as you live, would you have the time
To watch it shine, watch it shine
Or ask for the moon and heaven too? I'd give it to you.
Well maybe I've got no star to spare, or anything fine or even rare,
Only if you let me be your world, could I ever give this world to you.
Could I ever give this world to you....
....why they only played this live four or five times is beyond me. The lyrics remind me of Attics Of My Life. Which, incidentally, is a song I sung for my son when he was really young.
They brought that one back, to much rejoicing.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/29/2020 - 21:42

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A good time to check the mail. Got a package from Bolo24, CIA.

Gonna let it sit for the required time.. just in case it self destructs or something.

What a hoot. Thanks Bolo.

For what it's worth.. to wide awake to sleep.. youtube is serenading me with the acoustic set of 10/31/80. Works for me.

That is cool Vguy! This band sure brings us all the emotions.

What we all wouldn't give right now to hear, "We will be back in just a little bit, so everybody hang loose." Man, I am trying real hard to hang loose.

Spill the beans Jim, what did Bolo send you for winning the contest?

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Submitted by Gollum on Wed, 04/29/2020 - 22:32

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Great idea. Count me in. Extra credit for the NRPS set.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 04/29/2020 - 23:17

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I've got the New Riders set.. I will do my best to send it as Alac or Flac to anyone interested. Just PM me.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 02:29

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If I had the world to give, I'd give it to you
Long as you live, would you let it fall, or hold it all in your arms?

I guess we all know the answer. Sorry had to say it!

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 04:40

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You ever listen to the 10/17/78 version that is not on the bonus disc. If you haven't during space right before If I had the World to Give, you can hear a woman say to Jerry "I want to take banjo lessons" He responds that he doesn't do that anymore... bob t

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 05:07

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What a great show! Love the acoustic set . Garcia says something about demon rum right before Dire Wolf.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 05:11

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Mark me down for it.

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Submitted by bob t on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 05:56

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You saw a lot of great shows!!! P.S. You will never believe it is raining in Rhode Island again!! Be good everyone bob t

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 05:57

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Winterland October 1978

Can any one or TPTB tell me why we can't get all 5 shows released like June '76 box??

Thanks.

PS, Wouldn't be funny if this was the fall box set to be released Oct 6 according to LMG.

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Submitted by billy the kid on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 06:19

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Bob T, I didn't make it to this show, I went to the shows on Oct 20 and 21. My brotther told me about this incident with the girl and the banjo lessons. Garcia used to give banjo lessons when he worked at Swain's House of Music down in Palo Alto, my brother knows a couple of guys who took banjo lessons from Garcia back in the early 60s.

I don't teach anymore..

How cool is that? Nice call Bob T and cool story BTK!

WOS Rocked me yesterday, both 6/16 & 6/18 were so great to hear again.
I am fully pumped now for the Jai-Alai Fronton Release.
Can't Wait and well executed stoke you good pickers you.

Waited until later in the day, to get the full effect, and it was wonderful.

The Eyes > China Doll & WRS > TOO > It's A Sin > Stella is such an incredible trip to take.

And having read your posts I knew what was coming all day, and the magic part, even with that and having heard the show many times in the past, I couldn't wait and was excited when they broke into Morning Dew and it is EPIC, better than I'd remembered.

And that's what this trip is all about!!

6/18/74 - Eyes, WRS & Morning Dew up there with best evers.

Alright set the time machine for Winterland October 1978 you say?!?!

Right away!

Had to start with If I Had The World To Give after that sweet serenade last night courtesy of you all.

JIMINMD - What's in the box?

It's gonna be a good day!

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 06:56

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Jim, If you're saying you have that day for NRPS, I'd take a copy. I don't have?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 07:53

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Got em.. will send later today.

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 08:10

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I too opted for the full 10/21/78 show - on "Roses" now, and I have enjoyed this show so far, save for Bobby's slide playing during "Sugaree" and "Stagger Lee." My copy of this show (the Miller one that Vguy posted,) sounds pretty darn good.

I know that 5/2/70 DiP 8 is on tap for it's 50th anniversary Saturday, but what about tomorrow? May I suggest DiP 5 - 12/26/79, one of my personal favorite picks, for Friday's listen?

Of course, I think a number of folks should be receiving DaP34 tomorrow... but if not...

Peace

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 09:29

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Thanks, my man!

Ouch - this patch in the climax of "Stella" hurts. Still - this has been a good listen!

Peace

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 12:53

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I have the complete shows on a HD but they aren’t loaded on the microSDXC card that is currently in my music player.
So, chop job it was.
Yes, definitely time for the whole run to be Plangentized, Normanized, and packed up in a nice little Box that fits on a shelf.

I didn’t initially go for RT because I wanted complete shows, not chop jobs. Probably the wrong choice because I missed out on the bonus disc which I believe allows you to reassemble a complete 10-21 set2.
But, all that can be remedied with the release of a Winterland Oct. 78 Box. Bring it on Dave.

Now I’ve ventured into torrent territory and am listening to 3-25-83 148801.Clugston.
Sound quality is not terrible, but the cymbals are a bit too loud.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 13:23

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Definitely a different feel than our listen yesterday with the wonderful RT2.3.

Sound quality is mediocre at best and I agree the patches are rough.

Does anyone have a tracking arrival date for tomorrow for Dave's #34.

Mine still is saying label created.

Conekid, check your PM.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 14:30

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Agreed! Not the same high as yesterdays '74 trip.. But The Other One is ripping and has a moment of IT for sure.

Actually having listened again, I'm surprised that this got released with the number of patches that were required. I'm not holding my breath on a rerelease.. there's so much other stuff in that there Vault.

Fun to revisit.

12/26/79 tomorrow you say? So Be It!

I might have to dig in to some 5/1/70 for it's 50th as well.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 15:30

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I replied to PM

....just wrapped up. 6.8 goonie birds out of 10. Mojo working goes on a little too long, but everything after that was fire. Very nice Must have Been The Roses. Moving onto an anniversary of a show i attended. Irvine Meadows 4.30.89. Box Of Rain, Iko to open the second set.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 16:05

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Thanks!

Luckily we have a new C. M. audience release so there is a better patch for the Stella Blue and some other small patches but, on a bad note the taper only got a partial set 1 so no new patch for Sugaree which sucks.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 16:54

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If ya don't mind me calling you that. Is this the NRPS 5/2 you have?

nrps1970-05-02.sbd.reel master.cass.dat.flac16

Thanks!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 18:25

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Ollin> Promised, Sugaree, Ramble On, Passenger, LLR, all good! Stagger- Miracle brings it down.

Bertha, Good Love it's back, MHBTR sweet, Estimated blowing the roof off! He's Gone okay, this show kinda goes up and down. Mojo starts out nice, TOO - Stella - Sugar Mag all good. I got them U.S. Blues.

I think I blew or singed a voice coil in the mid-range speaker yesterday. I got a Emotive xpa-2 amp 70lb monster (all most gave the Fedex guy a hernia). Hard to find speakers that this thing can't blow out. Thinking of going with Airmotiv T2+ loudspeaker anyone familiar with these speakers?

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 18:33

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Yes, there are two versions actually.. I haven't had time to see which one sounds better yet. I think the one that comes as a whole show is slightly better.. I need to figure that out a couple people hit me up.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 18:46

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The one I have listed is the SIRMick seed.

NeW Riders Of The Purple Sage
Harpur College
Binghampton, NY
Saturday, May 2, 1970

Source: Soundboard > Reel Master > Cassette > DAT (48k)

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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 04/30/2020 - 20:40

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You might just have a better version than the two I have. It seems to be one or two steps closer to the master reel and my best, although it's a soundboard, has just a touch of hiss.

Shot you a message..

If you could compare All I Ever Wanted from yours to this..

https://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-02.sbd-fm-aud.unknown.108955.flac…

That should give us the answer. Yours seems to be a generation or two better.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Fri, 05/01/2020 - 07:36

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If there is any interest in the more complete version I am seeding it at the etree.

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?torrentId=588035

NeW Riders Of The Purple Sage
Harpur College
Binghampton, NY
Saturday, May 2, 1970

Source: Soundboard > Reel Master > Cassette > DAT (48k)

01 //Workingman's Blues
02 Brown Eyed Handsome Man
03 Truck Drivin' Man
04 If You Hear Me When I'm Leavin'
05 tuning
06 Whatcha Gonna Do//
07 All I Ever Wanted
08 Henry
09 Lodi
10 Weir intro and tuning
11 Saw Mill *
12 The Race Is On *
13 Mama Tried *
14 Me And My Uncle *
15 The Weight

John 'Marmaduke' Dawson - rhythm guitar, vocals
David Nelson - lead guitar, vocals
David Torbert - bass, vocals
Jerry Garcia - pedal steel guitar
Mickey Hart - drums

guest:

Bob Weir - guitar, vocals *

Notes:

- This has been provided by an anonymous source.
- There were several nasty high-pitched squeals caused by feedback, which have been removed and some level adjustments have been made.
- Although the start of "Workingman's Blues" is cut this is the first time that any of it has circulated. It's completely missing from the FM source.

edited and mastered
SIRMick
March 2013

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Submitted by bob t on Fri, 05/01/2020 - 08:13

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Along with 8/13/75 this made me a dead head... I love this version so much.... I use to listen to it every day in college before I started getting tapes... bob t.... P.S. i am excited to hear Donna tonight!!! bob t

Cool to hear your story re: Wharf Rat & 8/13/75

Definitely have some tunes like that, first Dead album I got was WALSTIB from the ole Columbia Records and Tapes club, 11 Albums for a Penny!

Anything from that album takes me back but in particular Born Cross-Eyed and that Europe '72 Jack Straw.

Despite heavy rotation in bootleg circles, never heard 8/13/75 until the Dead released One From The Vault.
But I was stoked when I did get it.

And I totally forgot about Donna tonight! She's a kick, thanks for the flash:)

How's 12/26/79 going everyone? I had to get some 50 year old 5/1/70 in my ear hole.