Religion, Spirituality and Deadheads

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marye

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In one of the other topics, one of the folks seemed not to be so sure of the reception he'd get for saying he was a youth minister at his church. In my experience, Deadheads span the full spectrum from Agnostic to Zoroastrian. I've met atheist Deadheads, Muslim Deadheads, Buddhist Deadheads, Catholic Deadheads, Jewish Deadheads, and Wiccan Deadheads. My Deadhead friends are all over the map on this stuff, and as far as I'm concerned one of the real richnesses of the scene is the ability to see how things look to other folks and, sometimes, experience it from their world. Believe it if you need it, if you don't, just pass it on. But talk about it here, and please maintain a safe respectful place to do so.

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August 16, 2015 - 5:54pm

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Graceful_Dead

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The Greatest American Rock Band

You know who I mean. For their unrivaled track record of creativity and innovation, continuing even today, in light and sound. For the highest level of musicianship, sustained over many decades. For the breadth and durability of their own songbook. For their lively and invigorating interpretation of the traditional American songbook. And of course the testimony of the fan base, who the word "loyal" does not begin to describe. No other band has ever had anything like that following, neither in their heyday nor continuing so long, long after.
August 9, 2015 - 3:51am

#22

Graceful_Dead

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Three Degrees of Slow

Three observations about the infectious lilt that is the pace of Grateful Dead music (and that gives Deadheads their characteristic walk while listening to Jehovah's favorite choir). John Mayer said that the pace of Dead music made him notice how different it was from "everything ..processed and quantized and gridded out – to hear 'Tennessee Jed' played with that lope.." And in Kreutzman's recent interviews he stated that one of the main lessons he learned from Garcia about music was to play "a really full four beats. Don't rush to the end of the bar". Finally, learning that the St. Louis Cardinals and Cincinnati Reds have joined the Giants in planning Grateful Dead nights (thanks for the tip from Holly Hiker), makes me speculate that a steady, measured pace of things might make for more overlap between Dead fans and baseball fans than there is with football fans. I'm runnin', but I take my time.
August 6, 2015 - 4:12am

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loveandpeace

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I'm in Melbourne. We're an

I'm in Melbourne. We're an American family with three children, who came here four years ago. I was blessed to attend the last night in Chicago... my original hometown. It was a beautiful night, spent with folks from tour 20+ years ago. I have to admit that i felt both inspired and sad after the shows. The spirit of the shows lingered for weeks and i was completely blown away by how the music and the vibe of a show was just as relevant and important for me now, as it was back then. In fact, it felt like it had just been too, too long. We need that music, and i think you are right... it's so important, that it will evolve and stay alive. anyways... i'll have the check out bluesfest. Any music suggestions are welcome, as i haven't got a clue down here. Peace be with you and yours, jennifer
August 6, 2015 - 3:13am

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Brick in Oz

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Where down under?

I'm In Adelaide. I was lucky enough to see both Santa Clara shows. It was bittersweet saying goodbye to the guys as a group, but we can't say goodbye to the Music. What they started 50 years ago is still evolving, and will continue to as the legitimate genre it has become. Thanks, Guys! See you at Bluesfest, loveandpeace (Sat Tedesci Trucks, Lucas Nelson and Promise of the Real, and Joe Bonnamassa)
August 3, 2015 - 3:07pm

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truckineric

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God Bless You All

Heard Phil yell that after Box of Rain encore 12-18-93 Oakland col. Great show!!
August 2, 2015 - 8:11pm

#26

grateful_1973

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GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!

WE BID YOU GOODNIGHT
August 2, 2015 - 9:06am

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truckineric

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Turn around

Turn around and I'll be there like a road leading home.We are everywhere⚡️
August 2, 2015 - 7:12am

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loveandpeace

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amen, amen. Thanks for your

amen, amen. Thanks for your note, Graceful Dead. I feel very blessed by the Fare Thee Well event. I was fortunate enough to fly into the states and attend the last night. It was a bit sad to say good-bye, but really i feel like the music means as much to us now, and can lead us to shine our love lights into the future. Know our love will not fade away. Hey, btw... did you happen to see the following article??? http://www.patheos.com/blogs/religionnow/2015/07/once-in-a-while-you-ge… Peace be with you and yours, a sister down under
August 2, 2015 - 6:13am

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purpleerik69

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Doesn`t matter....

what`s your religion. Music takes your spirit and gives you wings so you can soar upt to heaven if you want to.I`m very grateful to the spirits that my baby-grandson , born July 31 - two days ago - is healthy and so beautiful........
August 2, 2015 - 3:28am

#30

Graceful_Dead

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One Moon Past Chicago

The blue moon this weekend makes me look back.: 5 young adults in my extended family went to FTW there with their Deadhead parents (not exactly dragged there). Each came away ready to confess: There is NOTHING like a Grateful Dead concert. The full sensory immersion, plus the overflowing love, peace and harmony shown by everyone there, did much more than would any amount of listening to recordings. But full credit to the band, to continue to experiment and innovate, to improvise new music in front of a massive crowd which did have its skeptics. Morgan40, I read the article you link below. There is unquestionably a message of hope and redemption running through the Dead music, but it would be too much to say that it is only draws on Biblical influences (which I know you did not). In the same way, I would not want anyone to think that my avatar implies I see a unique link between my faith and Dead-ism. That’s not any more true of my stealie than someone who inserts their favorite team logo on the Face.

In one of the other topics, one of the folks seemed not to be so sure of the reception he'd get for saying he was a youth minister at his church. In my experience, Deadheads span the full spectrum from Agnostic to Zoroastrian. I've met atheist Deadheads, Muslim Deadheads, Buddhist Deadheads, Catholic Deadheads, Jewish Deadheads, and Wiccan Deadheads. My Deadhead friends are all over the map on this stuff, and as far as I'm concerned one of the real richnesses of the scene is the ability to see how things look to other folks and, sometimes, experience it from their world. Believe it if you need it, if you don't, just pass it on. But talk about it here, and please maintain a safe respectful place to do so.

Anyone else find it interesting?

Watching as the POTUS mimics "W" with this whole "war on terror" thiing...

???

What is POTUS please??********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde

POTUS

President Of The United States And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee

OH

DUH! Silly me! thanks BobbaLee********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde

Thanks

I found this entire thread interesting, entertaining, and inspirational. My own spiritual beliefs have changed over time. I used to belive that heaven and hell were places beyond the earth that we would all arrive at sometime after we passed on depending on how we lived our lives. I have come to believe that the ideas of heaven and hell are metaphors for what we feel or become as a result of our actions while we live here on earth together. Entheogens gave me a new perspective; I felt a palpable "kinship" to everything around me. My mind told me that I was connected to everything else because I and most everything around me was composed of mostly carbon and water, that all of the atoms I was made of came from something or someone before me, that all I was made of would pass on to someone or something else eventually, atomic soup. My first mind-blowing ego-busting experience with entheogens carried me into another realm of awareness which I can't put into words, though I try. I believe that beyond the physical being, somewhere between dreams and hope, there is a pure light inside of all of us. I miss the joyful glorious Grateful Dead Shows! Thanks to all those who have shared their experiences and beliefs. -sludj

re: above, I too am "Fixing A Hole"

Artist: The Beatles Lyrics to Fixing A Hole: I'm fixing a hole where the rain gets in And stops my mind from wandering Where it will go I'm filling the cracks that ran through the door And kept my mind from wandering Where it will go And it really doesn't matter if I'm wrong I'm right Where I belong I'm right Where I belong See the people standing there who disagre and never win And wonder why they don't get in my door I'm painting my room in a colourful way And when my mind is wandering There I will go And it really doesn't matter if I'm wrong I'm right Where I belong I'm right Where I belong Silly people run around, they worry me And never ask me why they don't get past my door I'm taking the time for a number of things That weren't important yesterday And I still go Fixing a hole where the rain gets in Stops my mind from wandering Where it will go **************************************** And after fixing this whole, nothing lies in between! I'm taking the time for a number of things...

It' a beautiful day

I don't know how many millions Harold Camping spent on billboards advertising today as "judgement" day but I know it would have been much better if he had just donated the money to soup kitchens. See you tomorrow.

Actually, it would not have been "judgement day"

just the occurrence of the "Rapture". Actual judgement day comes later, after the Apocalypse....of course, nothing has happened yet, and only He knows when it will, but yeah, dude shoulda made better use of his money..

Amen. brother Johnman!

From a Christian perspective Jesus said that no one, not even him, knows the time except God the Father. That's why I don't get Christians who predict the end of the world! Whatever you believe you should be spending your time loving yourself and your fellow human beings "as yourself". That way it doesn't really matter! I plan to be checking back in tomorrow!

Only The Terminator can declare Judgement Day

And Ahnult is rather busy right now with his five kids, nanny & Maria Ave, Ave, Ave Mariiiiia! Been chipping up rocks from dawn till doom While my rider hides my bible in the other room

Yeah, you go right ahead and worship Arnold...

I have other plans...

Sorry....I know it was just a joke...

and I just lost my temper. But I don't feel it's right to belittle anyone's spiritual or religious views.....this forum should be for honest discussion and sharing, so please excuse my response..

johnman's got a point Anna

groundrules pretty clear in this topic, please don't do this stuff here. Thanks. In current events, have at it, within reason.

Humor is the best medicine

Now I remember why I don't go to church. Equate religiosity with being grim if you want. Banning others from doing so is just fascist and adds to your own ego. Been chipping up rocks from dawn till doom While my rider hides my clown mask in the other room

Humor is one thing

I love a good joke as well as the next person, but humor at the expense of other's beliefs just feels wrong to me. My apology came from the heart, I'm sorry you can't accept it in the spirit it was given, please excuse me.

:)

I can vouch for Johnman enjoying a GOOD joke! :) Here's a cooky.********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde

Thanx, pal..

I'm not a facist, and my ego is too small to bother feeding...and I AM sorry. Forgive me, please, Anna??

Anna

The point is that due to the difficulty of this thread topic, we have done a good job thus far (mostly) with keeping it interesting, civil, and kind. Perhaps Johnman was nerveous that if we start making cracks in here, all hell could break loose. This is really about the most delicate thread on this site. Crack all you want-but it would be wiser to do so in other threads :) As our mod marye said, the news and current events thread would be the better place for Arnold comments. The spiritual thing to do would be to accept Johnman's apology! :) ********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde

To be clear, there are plenty of places on this site

to wave your ego around or stir the pot and call it humor, within reasonable and non-abusive limits. This topic is not it. Thank you.

now in current events

it would've been a pretty hysterical post. But context is everything. Hey, it doesn't belong in tape traders either.

words,words,words

What we need to do is to wrtite out what you're thinking, and then go explain what you meant by each and everyone of those words. Because even if you just want to keep the train rolling,and are doing it with a loving and egoless heart, or just trying to be funny, some people are just going to look for the worst in everything. If I thought about all the possible meanings people would come up with for everything I post before I posted it I'd never post anything. Forgive and forget,tomorrow's another day,

words...

I should have said, sometimes people are just..., instead of "some" people... happens when you have a lack of communication, I've done it too.

true enough

about the moving along and tomorrow being another day.

God Bless Everyone Here

No Exceptions!!!

Imagine no Relgion

Too bad Dead,net can't, don't ever remember religion being a big topic at Grateful Dead shows, thank God.,But if you ever want to divide people,great forum.

C'mon, maaaan

read the title piece.....we come in all beliefs, or none....and that's the point...believe it if you need it, if you don't jus' pass it on...makes perfect sense to me..........

exactly

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:)

am also curious. Find the idea of Jeans for Jesus to be absolutely bizarre!!!!!!!********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde

at least I am sure

that I can think of several jokes about this company's name. Jeans so tight you see God when you wear them? Also the spam is very poorly written-maybe while they were designing True Religion jeans they forgot their English? ********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde

I have a feeling

that was not the idea, but I am not exactly hip to these fashion trends.

not

that one cannot be concurrently into fashion and Jesus, but it hardly seems respectful, as others have pointed out, to go around wearing one's preferred sacred symbol on one's butt.

Indeed, marye

guess I am not hip either, cuz never heard of this brand before today!********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde

hi everyone

Hello to johnman, tigetlilly, maryeI miss my extended GD family here. Peace and love is the answer no matter what the clothing of belief system they wear. Still Missing Jerry. Furthur coming to Missoula in Sept., got tickets. How rare for any form of the Dead to appear around here. But they are. Hope nobody throws a beer bottle at them, which is what happened the only time the Grateful Dead came to Missoula. Well those plastic cups don't make very good missles, so they should be safe If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake