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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    I brought an old friend to the Phoenix Dead shows in December 1990. He had seen them once before in the 60s at Winterland . The parking lot scene at Compton Terrace reminded him of a 1950s science fiction movie about people partying into the future while imminent disaster was ravaging the planet and the human race.
    I vaguely remember an old British film from the 50s when the sun was getting bigger and would soon destroy the Earth. Beatniks were depicted having wild street parties. Saxophones and bongos. Nihilistic is the word that comes to my mind. This is a very generalized broad brush view of how wild the Grateful Dead scene became. Most Deadheads held down some form of work, myself included. So this is a comical view I hold about the later days of the Grateful Dead scene, (deadheads) I need to find that sci fi movie. Maybe it was “The Day the Earth Caught Fire”, 1961.

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    I get that.. you landed on this show just to get under Oroborous' skin.

    :D

    My picks are completly random.

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    Wasn’t thinking anniversary when I started playing it

    I processed more torrent shows yesterday and loaded the ALAC files on a music player.
    An hour ago or so started playing the first show displayed on the screen, and only just now realized that it is tomorrow’s anniversary.

    12-7-68
    Has some cuts but sounds pretty decent. Doing the 88674.miller copy.
    Thanks Charlie.

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    Now this is not related to this Day in Dead History, but...

    Do you all think it's just a coincidence that the longest Here Comes Sunshine (12/6/73) and the return of Here Comes Sunshine (12/6/92) happen on the same date?
    Trippy, huh?!?!

    Good Stuff.

    12/6/71 is sounding good today, that transition back into The Other One from Me & Bobby McGee is tight! They were so on their game.

    12/5/71 - I feel like I had a GD hour of Muddy Water & Comes A Time from that show, but maybe it was just filler on a tape, anyhow.. I've always loved that Comes A Time. The extra verse that Jerry sings is really poignant and always resonates with me. Even as a young lad, I could relate to that. Nice work Hunter.

    12/6/73 - Gonna happen later today.

    Strider - I'm curious of your take on how you viewed the scene in say '92 having been there back in the glory days and had been going to shows for close to 23 years at that point. So much had changed and yet, the magic could still occur. December '92 Jerry was back again and stayed that way for awhile. What was going through your mind during these December '92 shows?

    Would love to hear. I caught the band in December '93 for my last show and I felt glad to be there, but a bit nostalgic. The band & the crowd felt like it was going through the motions that night, instead of feeling it. Coulda just been me.

    But December '92 - Summer '93 there's some there there.

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    I went the first night of that run, 12/4/71. I listened two days ago by way of re-listen. Yesterday I listened to 12/5/92 Gila River Indian Reservation, ( not Tempe, Az as listed on re-listen). Was at the new Compton Terrace both days in 92 and December 90. Went to the original Compton Terrace in March 83, that was in Tempe. . Going to listen to 12/6/92 today and maybe Felt Forum 12/6/71 later. I remember the radio broadcast from 12/5/71 when it happened, WNEW carried it.
    Was reminded just now about Acoustic Dead 12/6/80. Already loaded up in the iPhone.
    Many Deadheads were waylaid by a major blizzard in December 92 trying to drive from the McNichols Denver shows to Arizona. It poured rain the day before the 1st Compton Terrace show driving from New Mexico to Superstition Mountains, where my 67 Chevy van died, but that’s another story.

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    The Charlie Miller is the one I am using for the Felt...

    https://archive.org/details/gd1971-12-05.131532.miller.sbd.flac16/gd71-…

    Still enjoying this one.. just finished the first and on to the second. Second set was a classic. Great way to spend a chilly Sunday afternoon outdoors.

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    Dug the Salt Lake show, but I think I liked 12/3 a tad more? You guys were right about the post drums! Wowsa...JG is rippin’ wicked good as the say up north. Glad I went back to it. Yeah, what is it about 81 lately? Dave.....

    DV with the hit yet again. Forgot what a fun set list/show 6/17/91 is. And though the video is what it is quality wise, it’s so nice to watch them on occasion. I think the amazing sound on this one more than makes up for it though.
    Think I’ve only seen this one a couple times so it was a perfect pick for my Friday night shenanigans!
    That Giants box is awesome and yet another I haven’t spent near enough time with...

    So from 81, to 91, to 71...
    What version are you listening too?
    Doubt I’m gonna have time for this today, but I should check it out ASAP. Had a crappy tape of part BITD (most of my tapes pre hiatus were crappy?) Actually used to play Muddy Water because of this tape, and it was easy lol.
    Probably on a tape from one of our early shows we played out on? Man, someday I need to go through a bunch of that, but thats a huge project I don’t have time for and listening to much of that is painful...like seeing yourself on TV only worse.

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    I have been there twice when it was named The Theater at Madison Square Garden..

    I thought it was a weird place. Kind of an urban theater.. few frills, lacking the ornate gold leaf feel and Gothic/Victorian amenities. Typical theater seating in semi-circle curving around the stage. I do not recall a balcony and I recall the seating having a very shallow incline. Madison Square Garden is directly on top of you, Penn Station is I think below you. I recall it as being tiny, I cannot imagine 5k people there, maybe if your date sat on your shoulders... To me it seemed considerably smaller than say the Beacon Theatre which holds under 3k people. Maybe they can get rid of some baffling walls or dividers or something. Must have been a wild ride to see the GD there.

    I think one of the times I was there was to see the How the Grinch Stole Christmas as a theatre presentation right before Christmas with my kid.. NYC is (was, will be again one day) a fun place to visit just before the holidays so long as you don't mind spending a little quality time with like 9 million of your closest friends. Hot Tuna used to play at the Beacon every year around Jorma's birthday between Thanksgiving and Christmas. A great time and place to see the Tuna.

    Strider, wherefore art thou?

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    ran·dom
    /ˈrandəm/
    adjective
    1. made, done, happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision.
    "a random sample of more than 2300 grateful dead shows"

    You guys are going way out there!
    I like it.

    Strider you were at these Felt Forum shows right?!?
    I seem to recall you talking about Jerry playing a Fender Strat if that's where it's at...
    Far Out.

    What was the Felt Forum like as a venue?

    Located inside the Madison Square Garden seats between 2,000 and 5,600 for concerts named in honor of Irving Mitchell Felt.

    Seems as though the GDs popularity in NY at this time had them going to larger & larger Venues.
    I should find out the story about Bill Graham's involvement in putting this on, having closed the Fillmore East and and telling the press on 4/28/71 that he was tired and it wasn't worth it. More negatives than positives.
    Apparently, there were still some positives. Like some big fat sacks of cash!

    BG intro.. harboring some resentment about Bob's baseball game and for smashing his shoulder. Love this stuff.

    Oh wait... this is sounding like a This Day in Dead History.. shit!

    PS - Jim that Fire On The Mountain yesterday!! Holy Moly, I loved that. Show was way off my radar. Really dug it. 1981 is ringing my bell lately. I'm telling you that year is in the air. DL is gonna release some :)
    12/4/73 is ok, but the band sounds a bit fatigued.

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    Holy crap this board sounds fantastic. What is it about a great sounding show that turns your day around?

    I washed my hands in muddy water. Love it.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

....for one one the best shows I've heard them play. 9.7 goonie birds out of 10 and Don't Ease Me In hasn't even ended yet. Pure gold. Off today and the wife went to work. This one begs to be turned to eleven.
"Relax people. We have you all night long."

excellent anniversary pick! acoustic 1970 is such a special sound. so intimate, at times almost like you're seated cross legged in front of them in a small room with your close friends. once again, it's been awhile since I've listened to this set, more recently those in that awesome Road Trips 5/15/70 release. we really need another of these acoustic / electric shows from 1970 released. too bad that most of the fall run appears to not have been taped.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 11:20

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....Jerry making that pedal steel sing. Outstanding!
If Henry doesn't get your foot tapping, better check yourself for a pulse.

....gotta take a break. Shower up. Because I know that the upcoming St. Stephen->The Other One->Cosmic Charlie is going to blow my mind and will have me picking my face up off the floor. Again.

....hitting that record button at the start of St. Stephen. Wonder why? "Guys! Wait a minute! I was hanging with the crowd! You usually take a longer break! Dammit! (Pushes the button). Ahhhh. All is good."
I got all clean, just to get dirty again. Let's gooooo!
The 6.9.76 RT release also has a cut start to St. Stephen. Hmmmm.....

DP 5 12/26/79✔️ Ahh, finally got back to this one. Been meaning to play this one. It was played all the time back in the day since there weren’t many official releases yet, or at least I didn’t have many. When DaP 31 came out I dove into as much fall 79 as I had, but somehow didn’t get to this one. So now, finally we get back to this gem. Typical for 79 but great first set, with an UJB to open the second sliding nicely into a hot Estimated. But the highlight to me is the 2 jams. The first is more traditional with them skirting around the edges of a Caution jam, with wiffs of DS and Eyes, but then Phil clearly try’s to start He’s Gone, but Jerry’s not ready until a few minutes later Phil starts again and this time they go with it, SWEET! Then after a nice He’s Gone, TOO, and drums, they slide into almost space like segment that gets delightfully weird. One of my favorite things from this tour is all the far out jams and weirdness that regularly popped up in the second sets. The rest is standard fare except a nice but perhaps a tad allegro Brokedown. Of course the big surprise is the Shakedown UJB reprise for the encore. It’s not surprising ole Dick put his name on this one, what a great 79 show!
4/29/72: ✔️so then I did this one to somewhat follow the European trail. I even had Sierra Nevada 2019 Ocktoberfest, Sierra Nevada Skiesta “Bavarian Style” and my last bottle of EKU 28. All leftovers I’ve been saving for too long for a tasting that’s not going to happen anytime soon. So not proper authentic German beer, but in the spirit of the event celebrating the fine show and DS from the sister city of my hometown, Hamburg.
10/26/89: after this one came up the other day I figured I’d give it a spin. Since it was getting late and the buzz was making me sleepy, I FF here and there and by the end of DS was falling asleep in the big boy chair, so decided, hang it up and see what tomorrow brings....was totally enjoying the show, but not sure I’d rank it above 10/9 or 10/16? I’ll have to slip back to this one after 5/2/70....

....is strong with this Spanish lady with a rose. Total cacophony, into a lulling bliss, then back into masterful ladder climbing. Its an auditory roller coaster. Pretty much perfection. Makes me feel high, without being high.
The 12:20 mark....for fucks sake. Rainbow colors blended.

my favorite year is '72, like the deep space mind melt of the Berkley show. but a fire-breathing cryptical - other one - cryptical is another beast altogether, and i love them too! phil thunder intro right now! holy shit!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 12:56

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....its a full fledged Pigpen grease party. Incredible.
Life pro tip. If you have a grease fire, water or fire extinguishers don't suppress it. Gotta cut off the oxygen.
The 5:35 mark of Good Lovin'. Kicking into the extra gear. Reminds me of wild horses. Can only tame them so far until they race off.

....also marked.
Ducked out of the CD into the archive for the Cold Rain & Snow that was cut from the release. Earning my badge.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 13:35

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“The goal is to find shows that can stand up under repeated listenings and still give you the goods.” - Dick Latvala

Harpur College – anyone with any common sense knows Harpur College is a show that should have come out centuries ago. It was ten years of trying to get that one up the flagpole. Healy would say, ‘That Latvala, he can’t tell the difference between stereo and mono!’ And that’s why he would reject Harpur College, cause the electric sets are in mono. So fucking what? Does anyone say that ain’t a great example of a show? I’ll tell you, it wasn’t like I snapped my fingers to have it occur, it was like embarrassing myself forever to get it out.”

Thanks Dick,
I hope you know how right you were.. LATVALA!

Anybody want Electric Wine? = Dick's Picks Volume 8

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 13:58

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Here’s the first paragraph of the DaP34 announcement:

"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

Sounds like you’re all having a good time with Harpur.

I have some more yard work to do, but then it’s Harpur, beer, grilling. Looks like I got a good evening coming.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 14:02

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My 2nd Dead concert was 5/15/70 early show. That was also first time seeing NRPS. Then Workngmans Dead released late May. May 3rd was free Jefferson Airplane concert at Central Park bandshell. Super intense , only one of two times seeing JA. Kent State happened in early May .Saw CSNY at the the Fillmore East at the end of May 1970. Neil Young had already written Ohio. What a month , fifty years ago!
Now to the electric sets.

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 14:06

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Great Other One descriptions Vguy & thanks for those Latvala & Lawson-Garcia quotes Good Ole.
I listened to Good Lovin' and Man's World on my Saturday outdoor stroll to the Grocer. Even the Man's World shines on this show. Every note was golden that night. It was great to escape my quarantine and be outside in the sun with bugs and dogs and the Grateful Dead. This show has always felt very Springlike anyways.

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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 14:10

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I first got this show-5/2/70-about 1987 on a very rough sounding tape. I only had a primitive ghetto blaster to play it on, but I loved it and played it to death.
So on to Dicks Picks, which sadly missed the New Riders set-which was on the tape I had, and seemed to be an essential part of the whole show. Its my favourite in the series. Then I got the vinyl last year, which has no New Riders but includes a somewhat ropey Cold Rain and Snow. But it is an incredible show in any format. The acoustic set is beautifully recorded-they could be here in my living room.

I always think of the electric set as being the last hurrah for primal Dead. The versions of Other One, Dancing in the Street, Good Lovin' and Viola Lee Blues are incendiary. It seems to me as though they take a bit of a breather with the shorter songs in the set, before diving off the high board again with these all powerful jams. I can't think of another Dead show that is like this, either. Unique and brilliant.

.....Billy The Kid said earlier "if there was one show I could time machine back to, it would be this one." I paraphrased, but you get the gist. Top 10.
Good luck to tomorrow's pick.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 14:44

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Listened to the whole night together for the first time. Even though I've listened to DP8 tons of times, I really absorbed it + NRPS this time around. I may have to wander up into the mountains for a week or so to process what I just heard.

I know we're a biased lot here on this site, but, really, who else is in the conversation for Musician of the 20th Century besides Garcia? Mastery of varied instruments and genres, improvisational skills, longevity, number of people played in front of....you get the picture. Yet try to find him listed on those inane "best of" polls that pop up from time to time. Sheesh.

Maybe our deadhead brains are just wired differently than the rest of humanity. If that's indeed the case...thank you, God!!

....either you get IT or you don't. Screw the "lists". I'm hard wired. Jerome John Garcia is/was the most pleasing guitar player, at least to my ears.
Miss you.

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Submitted by Gollum on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 15:06

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Right on bolo. No other musician comes close to Garcia in my world. We are lucky....

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Sat, 05/02/2020 - 17:06

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What a great pick, Strider. You people hear these guitars?

Haven't listened to this one a while, so great, the acoustic set! I know you Rider is so smooth and relaxed.

I have no clue when my Dave's 34 is coming. Tracking still just says lable created, not yet shipped. I guess it is my turn to experience the shipping blues.

Be well folks!

I, too, listened to the whole thing in one sitting. I managed to carve out just enough time and mother nature took care of the rest.. a relatively easy close by river was running just right, temps in the mid sixties (hey, that rolls right off your tongue).. I combined the listen with an outdoor adventure, social distance style.

Dropped off my bike at the bottom and proceeded to the top with my boat. A 12 mile wilderness canyon, a ten mile bike ride to the truck allowed me to be completely alone for the entire day with it. Most excellent. There and back again.. four and a half hours of mind blown fun, nobody could call me, text me, email me, tap me on the shoulder, ask me a question.. no one could disrupt a single note. Heaven. Plus I completely burned off the cabin fever that's been building up these last couple months. Man, if I ever get the chance to do what I did today again, it will be a life well lived. Holy shit what a piece of music. A psychedelic masterpiece, the entire thing. Oh, and to drive the point home, I did reach deep into my bag of tricks to make sure my mind was properly malleable for the journey.

No point for me to get into a song by song study, everyone else did a great job covering the details.

Great choice, great day. It really was not that different than what I described this morning.. not that different at all.

Edit: Out of shape and sore I am.. What a drag it is getting old...

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 06:41

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I love Paris in the springtime

Good times were had at Harpur College for sure!

Did anybody else get something cool in the mail yesterday?

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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 06:56

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5/2/70 might have left a smoking crater of our minds...

5/3/72, Paris - that should set it right.

GOGD - Still no mail here in B'more :(

Happy Sunday, friends.

Peace

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 07:05

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The music comes on and keeps coming!

It's in the music

It's in the water

More Dead

May 5, 1970 - Colonial News SUNY Binghampton by Richard Walinsky

OTIS: It's coming!
I'ma holding off and waiting for you all, for now... :)

Sunday listening = Olympia Theatre 5/3/72.. don't mind if I do!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 07:29

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Looks like everyone had a great show yesterday. I am on Dire Wolf right now sounds nice!

5/372 sounds like another fine pick. Thanks!

ps. I am wondering if anyone has any interest in doing a Sunday Night At The Movies with VFTV 4 7/26/87 Anaheim.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 07:54

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I'm in a bit of a mind fog myself.. not from alcohol. ..and my body hurts.

Right there with you Otis/4Winds. I will get up some energy to make a good day of it soon. I am thinking 5/3/72 sans the stem I chewed on yesterday.

Yesterday was a glorious day in Western MD. I owe it all you guys pumping up the good vibes.. and Bolo for keeping it all unreal.

Thanks all.

P.S. View IV is a monster.. The Jack Straw opener is epic and it just grows from there.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 08:13

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Extra props for being one with nature yesterday JIMINMD!

This here 5/3/72 Tennessee Jed is the first one I ever heard...

No can do VFTV 4 tonight.. But that sounds fun!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 09:48

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Also The Playin'> D/S> Uncle Johns is mighty fine too. Miracle> Bertha> Sugar Mag, But the 7/26 has some unique Jerry just saying.

If this is not doable can I have tomorrows pick? Thanks!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 10:33

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....but the arrival date got bumped to Monday instead of Wednesday, so there's that!
5.3.72 on deck. A 3h 40min monster! Going to have break this one up.

VGUY72 - 40 plus minutes of that close to 4 hours is a big bad Other One Monster that weaves in and out of Set 2.. and it's sounding pretty hot too.

And Monday is better than Wednesday fo sure!

FOURWINDSBLOW - The 5/2/70 Monster Other One suite is some of the greatest Dead ever IMO (and many others from the sounds of things).. and it never gets old, every time it's sick!

What's everyone thinking in regards to listening to Dave's Picks Vol 34?
They seem to be trickling in at diff times all over the country as we speak.

Just curious.. that Monster keeps looking at me...

Yes, for sure!

Love the Taper's Compendiums, out-of-date but still great!

Along with the liner notes article reprint it really paints a cool scene.

Damn, I'd love to hear the beginning of that St. Stephen, just hearing the crowd response to those opening notes..

alas, it's all a dream we dreamed, One afternoon long ago

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 13:07

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This is a show i really like that I had not listened to in a while.

It's a really great show, the best!

11/8/1969 Dick's Picks, Volume Sixteen

Heard it was one of Dick's all time Favorites, posthumously released as a tribute to him.

I'm on a Latvala trip, Dick sure knew how to Pick!

Latvala!

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 15:50

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Dick was the best!

I thought I'd make up for the '87 suggestion.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 17:03

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FWB: Dude ‘87 pick is still in the mix!

Love ‘87 & haven’t heard that in awhile..

But.. it’s no 11/8/69
JIMINMD that was all FWB’s pick, I just picked up on it ;)

But yeah that’ll put you right back on the bus!!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 17:12

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....is indeed a good show. Comes highly recommended by yours truly! 👍🌹💀
Then again, I was at 7.26.87. First world problems!
Back to Paris. Love the fade out from Sugar Mags into NFA. Good stuff right there.

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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sun, 05/03/2020 - 17:39

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Jerry was the father I never had and I like to see him when I saw him. Sometimes.

Never could compete with 11/8/69 I know.

ps, Just so ya know I'm a sixties head (Freak!).

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 05/04/2020 - 07:45

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Dick Latvala's response to Jim Wise after receiving the "fixed" version of 11/8/69 master.

Initially planned to be released in honor of it's 30th Anniversary.

The amount of work put in to this recording in order for us to hear it at it's best possible sound quality, is impressive to say the least.

Another fine moment in Grateful Dead history, both the show and the story of how we are now able to listen to it.

Big Thanks to Jim Wise & Dick Latvala!!

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 05/04/2020 - 11:20

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I’m up for that

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Mon, 05/04/2020 - 13:27

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RE: STRIDER 88

Would love to hear your 2nd Dead concert 5/15/70 early show story some time..

That had to be amazing.

Jesse Jarnow speculated in a blog post that this show was "possibly" the night that Jerry was tripping so hard that he began to think that assassins / mobsters were after him, and that the only way he'd survive is if he played for his life.

Of course there's no way to know for sure, but..

It sure sounds like he's playing for his life.