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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Hello David,
    I know we are not to request for a specific show to be released and I understand that would be overwhelming. So I’m not going to do that. I going to lobby for a general geographical area ! And that is southwest Virginia. And to clarify SWVa has little to nothing in common with Northern Virginia or the Tidewater area. We are the beautiful and rural part of Virginia. 4 hours from DC and 4 1/2 hours from Williamsburg. With that said the GD played here 4 times from 1974-1987. Three times at the Roanoke Civic Center and once at Virginia Tech. Pick any and all !
    The 74 show was a real trip. The civic center was only about 1/2 full but that 1/2 was ready and tripping. It was a great night for Roanoke. It was my 8th show but it was the first for a large percentage of the crowd. The US Blues>Jam>Promised Land was primal. They had done similar sequence a month before in Miami but we didn’t know that. To this day when I hear that jam in the sequence it makes feel like I’m hearing some organic primal stew brewing. Tribal !!
    I’m a Hokie grad and Blacksburg is sacred ground around here. So in 1978 when they announced this show we were over the top. And it was a different story this time. The place was packed to the rafters. They were VERY popular by then. I was fortunate enough to see the two FOX Theater shows earlier that week. Just listen to TOO>Black Peter and tell me the boys were not ON this night. The whole show is smoking. A couple interesting side notes we relayed to me by friends on the concert committee. The band got to Blacksburg a day early and a couple of them came out and saw our Hokie baseball team play. Also another committee person took Jerry and Bob in a VT van to a Roanoke theater and they saw Saturday Night Fever. He said on the 45 minute return trip they talked about the movie and it’s music. Those are second hand stories but the people that told them to me had no reason to lie. Something I saw with my own eyes was during the “percussion” segment of the show when all band members were on stage I saw Bob beating on Jerry !! Weir had drum sticks and started playing on Jerry’s back. Jerry looked surprised and then started laughing. One great night for sure.
    We had to wait 9 years for them to pass our way again in 1987. By now they were HUGE !! How Roanoke got two nights in July right in the middle of stadium season is still a mystery. This time GD mania and culture took over and overwhelmed out humble little hamlet. It took years for our city fathers to get over this event. But the band did come to the Star City (huge star on mountain top above coliseum) and boy did the band play. Check out Morning Dew as an example of just what a meltdown occurred those two nights. We were blessed and we knew it.........those were the days my friend.
    Hopefully you were able to find time to read my scrabble and as I said earlier, I’m not requesting a specific show but I/we think it time for some love for the mountains of SWVa 😉. I saw Jerry 101 times from 1973-1995. These shows hold their own with any I ever saw.

    Thanks for being a great keeper Of the vault and the flame.

    PLP in Rocky Mount, VA Go Hokies !!

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    Berry interesting! With discussion

    Now, just riffing here: as we’ve noticed a ton of Healy/Pearsons, especially some 87s being added, BUT, not these awesome Roanoke shows? Perhaps their saving em for a release sometime? Hey, just a thought ; )

    But speaking of since I’m totally just f@#$&&ing off at work today (SLACKER) LOL
    Let’s finally discuss those (hope I can remember).
    7/7/87: right outta the gate has that “it” vibe and never really looks back. A Finiculi, Finicula always a good sign, sweet 1/2 step, even the Walking Blues which can sometimes be a buzz kill is good. Candyman, Esau, Push, all good of course Bob has to get the wanna be cowboy fix in, followed by a Bird Song, which I think was killer, but having trouble recalling, with a spirited Promised Land, not just a quick and dirty time for a piss and a drink version.
    Unusual West LA set opener, , and it’s got a Cumberland, and a hot second set one to boot! Overall good but nothing unusual second set including a good but I wouldn’t say great Dew? Splitting hairs as I’m sure it was great if you were there, which I can’t believe I could have been but wasnt, Dooaahh! I’ll have to call BOO469 tonight and get his memories as he burnout and company were there.
    7/8/87: starts out with a ripping Bucket and good Sugaree, and All over now to keep things rolling instead of some buzz kill Bob ad nauseam blues repeat. I took that as another sign that they were into these shows.
    Duprees I seem to recall was maybe not quite as tight as the rest but always a fun ditty. Even Good Times seemed above average in the band vibe department. Masterpiece good but perhaps not comparable to what it and all the Dylan tunes Bob hit hard in the late 80s? A nice Big Railroad which I don’t believe git a lot of play then so a nice surprise, followed by a sweet Let It Grow!
    Second set starts with a good if not mind blowing S/F, Estimated and Eyes, but we get a really nice Crazy Fingers outta space and then another pleasant surprise of Truckin to give that late energy boost. But then yet another pleasant surprise, Comes A Time as the boys seem like thier trying to one up each other with the crowd being the winner!
    Rock Star Bob to bring it home, and a nice Muddy River to bring folks back to earth and out into the night!
    Wow, if you didn’t know you might find it hard to believe this is 87, but 87 it is and perhaps at its best?
    I saw 14 shows from spring and summer and kinda got turned off. I mean I liked em and as always had a great time and glad I went, but? Part my BS, part the scene, part expectations. So between that and not digging the only big east coast venues on the fall menu skipped the rest of the year, well, bad on me!
    Yeah I’ll be checking these out again fo sho!

    4/7/78: from the newly discovered (for moi) great spring 78 tour. Good show with many hot spots, but comparatively to what I’ve been able to check out from this tour so far, I’d say this one is more middle of the road. So far that sweet surprise that was DaP 37? one that I was nonplussed, until I heard it! Is my benchmark, that and others from middle tour of the awesome sounding Beatty board variety are perhaps the cream of the tour (much more research needed) but that’s like comparing Porches to Beamers.
    Since there’s complete Beatty’s in the vault, I’m thinking we’ll get a box someday, but as always who knows when/if?
    I mean ole Dave seems to get easily distracted by birds and things lol, so can only imagine how he gets in the vault ; )

    3/19/77: gave this a superficial listen. Believe y’all did this one awhile back so thought I’d sneak it in while folks catch up and/or wallow in the 74 majesty that is DaP 42! Got a decent full treatment in on that last week too. Man that HCSS and disc three are fantabulous!
    Ok, hoping to skip out early so might try and hit 6/24/73 and/or Dicks 68 at home with a ice cold summer brew as it’s gotten hot hear all of a sudden, as is often the case here.
    Hopefully Mr Jimmy isn’t working too hard on those cabinets or playing ball in the house ; )
    Happy Friday amigos!
    ONWARD

    OH, if your out there Mr Smith, is it warm enough for ya yet lol, stay cool and have a great WE

    Edit: BC big time son, big time as The Hawk used to say!

    DBL Edit: Pearlysbeentrue, nice to meet ya, thanks for stopping by and contributing. The more the merrier!

    Triple edit: BC, I hit that one not too long ago researching my Great Dane Box. (have to credit VGUY with the awesome name). Like all the Dane shows, it’s a good one, for the time at least if not more? So I might pass and hit Jim and DVs picks, but definitely check it out and report back por favor!

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    How about 2/4/79?

    2/4/79 - Dane County, Mad Town. Final weeks of the Godchaux era. There's a new Clugston audience available. Sampled it at Shakedown Set II opener and it sounds pretty darn good to my ears. Had a chance to see this show, buddies had a ticket for me, but, oops, took a pass on it. Maybe had a big test or something, maybe just screwing up, maybe both.

    Edit - Oro, the Great Dane Box, so many good box set names available, just need the box sets themselves, e.g. Box of Rocks, Baked Alaska ..... and I had that same crazy thought re Roanoke release.

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    I was at both of these Roanoke shows in 1987...

    We danced, laughed, and got our blaze on at both of these shows. They hadn't played Roanoke for 13 years when 1987 rolled around, and even though I was stationed at Ft Bragg, doing my 4 years as an enlisted infantry paratrooper with the mighty 82nd Airborne Division, I wasn't going to let this show pass without being there.
    I still remember driving in to Roanoke, on 581, and having some dude in a car pull up beside us at 70 mph, and making the universal sign for Uncle Sid, by touching his outstretched tongue with his finger as he looked at us through our car windows. We were used to being under Uncle Sam's constant watch, so we just laughed to ourselves, and waved back.
    I distinctly remember a very emotional Candyman, as Jerry had only recently recovered from his diabetic coma the year before, and it seemed that his rendition had all of the weight of a funeral procession, but of course, beautiful and endearing at the same time.

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    ha! we got somebody's attention!

    June 22 GD Bulletin just hit my inbox and at the end there is this:

    "1969? 1992? 1987? In Pick of the Day, With Discussion, the spotlight seems to be turning to Roanoke, 7/8/87, so come on down and join in."

    To which I would add, if you're just tuning in - Welcome!! And don't overlook the first night at Roanoke, 7/7/87, cause it smokes!!

    Onward!!

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    Hey enjoyed this show. Great recording. Longer first set for this time period. Yes Jim, Jerry hits it nicely in Peggy O. Great Minglewood, TMNS.
    Enjoyed the second set, the finish with NFA, BP, Playing reprise. JBG.
    Good pick OB.

    Thinking of going back to the PNW box today with 6/24/73 Portland. Let me know.

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    Nice show, great recording. This is one Pretty Petty-O, I would surely Marry-O. Tight, powerful and fun. If I had a complaint, it would be that they did not seem to leave the solar system in the second set. The Terrapin>PITB>..., ...>PITB tango was fun but walls remained rigid and nothing melted, exploded, imploded and nobody was walking bow legged due to an alien abduction. First world problems, I realize. 78 has a lot of those, and post drums seemed to be shorter overall.

    Still, excellent show, most enjoyable and a great pick.

    I might relisten to the PITB and see if perhaps I missed something.. I was sanding and finishing some cabinets outside and that part of the show transpired just about the time the 14 year old ignored the no ball in the house rule. Predictably an errant lacrosse ball went through the front door window. If I hadn't done (almost) the exact same thing myself when I was his age, I'm guessing I would have been pretty pissed off.

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    Everything’s moving here but much too slow

    I think y’all did 3/19/77 awhile back and I missed it?
    So going to forge on with that.
    Hopefully I’ll get time for the discussion part of these last few shows…
    ONWARD!

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    Yes, sounds good to me OB. I have never heard this one. Will get it going tomorrow.
    Thanks.
    Yes, 87 is hot.

  • Oroborous
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    Moving right along

    How’s bouta 4/7/78 from that great Spring tour. Something with a 7 in front for some variety.
    More on those wonderful Roanoke 87 shows later…(if you like 87 and haven’t heard them, YOU MUST)

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If we are going to do 11/8/69, I am going to have to carve out the requisite amount of time like we did Saturday.. no distractions, no cell phones, no texts, no questions, no one tapping me on my shoulder.. and not the dreaded words, "one more thing" .. and of course get in the proper frame of mind beforehand.

Honestly.. these two shows, add in 2/14/68, 2/13&14/70, sprinkle in FW 69 for good measure and I have taken a liking to 1/2/70 + Bonus disc and an honorable mention for what I think of when I want to get in the transportation business.

Boy does listening to these shows take a lot out of you.. perhaps that's why they wrote AB & WMD.. to slow things down just before we careened off that cliff and into mental oblivion.

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GMLSG sounds as smooth as butter,,,

re, Well... I just hit play but, I paused it. Jim, when is a good time for you I'll wait??

The planets seem perfectly aligned this Thursday. That seems enough time to plan.

That will give us some time to switch things up too.. play around the calendar, pick shows from different periods too.

Does that give us enough time to plan?

That's a pretty nifty number ya got there!

I am all for Dick's 16, but if we need to pause on it to soak up Jai-Alai, I get that too. Let's keep this thing going! I am all for GD from any era!

Today was a good day for 74 Dead around here. Shortly after my early morning Dave's 34 was delivered (at 6:30 am!) I got another package from Real Gone containing Dick's 31, which I looked into after all of the discussion around these parts.

I hope I don't over do the 74 stuff - wait, I don't think that will ever happen.

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....and the sound is already impeccable. And to quote Bobby "Its the real thing".
Just like Billy Sunday in a shotgun ragtime band. This pick came at the right time.

We can pause while the WOS gently peels the plaster from our ceilings.

Whatever works.

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Okay on the pause for the Picks. I will keep my own going tomorrow as my #34 is still in CA.. Okay, no whining here, that gets old.

Oh yah I might have chased a couple women around..., the waiting is the hardest part.

Week eight of this crap, be well people.

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No problem all good. Those who have received the 34 happy listening!

"New ones coming as the old ones go"

Alright, sounds like the Pick of The Day is in hold pattern as we wait for & listen to the Pick of The Dave.

#34 to be exact - 6/23/74 & 6/22/74 Bonus Disc

Roger that.

I'll proceed accordingly...

Sherman set the Wayback machine to June 1974, we're going to listen to the Wall of Sound.

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I love the overlap of old ( psychedelic ) & new ( country/workingmans ) . It’s the palindrome 69 major phase shifting. The sound of small venues compared to larger halls or outdoor concerts all have different ambience . Same goes for instruments ( Jerry’s guitars) . Gibson SG in 1969-70. A whole slew of different axes in 1971. Wall of Sound 1974, with Doug Irwin Wolf Guitar.
Suggesting different eras of GD has been educational, even heard / seen fresh, and in 2020. Who would have known fifty years ago.

RE: STRIDER 88

Interesting observation and I believe you've tapped into something.

Hypothesis:
Does inspiration then lead to a love of learning?

I would venture to guess.. Yes!

Prediction:
Being inspired by Grateful Dead music, if I listen to the Grateful Dead from many eras over and over and over, through the course of many days and years, I'll want to learn more and will be loving it!

Test Prediction:
Continue listening to lots and lots of Grateful Dead from many different eras and discuss with friends.. ad infinitum

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Perfect timing. I got an amp and speakers on the way. Had to take advantage of the 30% offer. I got the speak's for half price and ac line filter for free. I'll be putting off listening to 34 till I get set up.

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Carson, CA 5.5.90. 30th anniversary.My final Brent shows.
https://archive.org/details/gd1990-05-05.141262.sbd.miller.flac2496/05S…
Rumors were rampant these shows that Timothy Leary was backstage dosing everyone. The band does sound "fat and juicy", so I can see where it could be true. Phil was turned WAY up.
I remember hanging out with some hare krishnas after the show eating free rice.

Strider...I think Jerry started playing a strat at some gigs in 1969, and on through 1970, as well as the mighty SG. This always seemed to me to be a signifier of the bands gradual shift to a more country based sound. As you indicate, they could still turn on the psychedelic power in 1969 and 1970 - but the times they were a changing .

Whew.. saved from an 11/8/69 induced nervous breakdown.

Edit: Saved for now. It's always the bats that start these things. Well, a melty PITB, then the bats. Look out for Dark Star>The Other One>Dark Star's too. A sure sign that society is in collapse.

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Bats have got themselves a bad reputation lately. Hunter knew it long ago.

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DaveRock , I can only go on photographs before 1970. I believe you’re correct, Jerry would use a strat for some late 69-70 songs. Of the ten times I saw them in 1970 I only remember the Gibson SG. 1971 was all over the map. Starting with seeing the SG my last time same night as Mickeys last show 2/18/71. The next few nights was the peanut Alembic experimental . By April Jerry was playing a Les Paul and then the peanut some nights. First time I saw Jerry play a Fender Stratocaster was at the Felt Forum 12/4/71. Then 2-3 strats through 72/ 73. The Wolf was a real game changer.
This is a fresh way of listening the good ole Grateful Dead.

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Strider...I am only going off photographs of course-I have nothing like the first hand experiences you are talking about. It must have been amazing to see them in 1970-1971-truly a mythical time. The photos I remember of him with a strat in 1969-70 are mainly in the Taping Compendium. Jerry is holding a sunburst strat in the picture accompanying the Feb 70 shows.
Its always interested me which guitars he played at shows-and Bob too, to a lesser extent. I watched the Festival Express dvd a few weeks ago, and Jerry is jamming with...a band who's name escapes me...but he is playing a tele. I don't think he played one of those very often.

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Good call Daverock, I need to watch that this weekend

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Thanks for joining in on this one Vguy and Jim. Loved the cover last night Vguy. Recording is Multi Track excellence as all these shows are. Have not listened to this show in maybe three years. Of the three Omni shows, I usually pull 4/3/1990, maybe because of that glorious Shakedown opener.
Anyway, Vguy, agree with you on this show. Great first set, with a great Althea, to Lay me Down, Music Never Stopped. Even the Victim is good. China Rider, what did that guy say last night about Ship of Fools??
Great Truckin, Stella, Sugar Magnolia and one of favorite encores, It's All Over Now Baby Blue. Great show.

Check it out if you have not listened in a while.

Be well all!

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....Victim -> Lay Me Down -> MNS is solid. Raucous Sugar Mags. And who doesn't like a Baby Blue? I know this guy does!

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I'm half way through 4/1/90. Althea was playing on our boombox at a motel room at an airport at the giants show in '89 with my friends. Like anyone would care.

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He called us fools talking about potholders and other normal things. Strange.

I didn't make it through the whole show.. but made it beyond the Victim/Lay Me Down. Let it be known I LOVE To Lay Me Down, but the Victim was so much better ( a song I don't normally adhere to).

Anyway.. just had to comment. Not coherent enough to add much more than that.

Who's fucking idea was it to watch Festival Express anyway.. a great yet terrible idea all at the same time. Thank god nobody drives cars anymore. My liver and my lungs both suddenly hurt both at once.

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Man, it was HOT down there!

Anyway, just catching up. I did dabble with disc 2 of Dick's 16 the other night... that is some mind-altering stuff. It looks like yesterday was 4/1/90 - just started "Touch" now.

Today is Three from the Vault? Sounds good to me :)

Peace

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Sounds grate, and it’s not even Plangentized.

Smokestack Lightning! Grease it up.

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I’m there. And was there.

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I loved that Omni show! I didn't get either of the Spring 90 boxes, so this show was new to me (at least for a good, quality sit-down and listen.) I LOVED it! The band is so hot, Brent in particular was on fire, the Bobby tunes rocked, and there were so many high-quality Jerry ballads. I mean, a show that has a "Candyman" "To Lay Me Down" "Ship of Fools" "Stella Blue" AND "Baby Blue" - c'mon... all played very well too!

Just started on 2/19/71 - the first Billy-solo show. Was this chosen to celebrate Billy's b-day? Good choice! I haven't listened to this one in a while!

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I remember from 2/19/71 was, “where’s Mickey?”. Was disappointed at the beginning of the show. The level of musicianship had greatly evolved since 1967 or last time as five piece. They blew the roof off the Capitol Theater that night. Jerry played his Alembec experimental “peanut” guitar for the first time on 2/19 and continued to play it the next several nights.I went Thursday through Sunday nights. I vaguely remember Weir commenting on Sunday as it being slow. As I remember it was sold out all nights. Unlike November 1970 shows in Port Chester when I could buy tickets night of the shows at the box office. Fillmore East was harder to get Dead tickets and February 71 shows sold out in hours . I bought tickets by getting in line at 5 am on a December (1970) Saturday morning. “What’s become of the baby that cold December morn”. Blair Jackson was in that same ticket line. 70/71 was quite the phase shift. Keep em guessing.

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Strider...do you remember much about the ESP experiments at these shows?

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Nice pick Conekid!.
Always thought it was odd this came out in 2007 and with no real explanation why it took so long to get it out.

Great recording with A+ sound quality. Really good Truckin, Dark Hollow, China Rider. Really liked the Greatest Story, early Bird Song. Did somebody say, Easy Wind? This was great and I wish this got more play as well as New Speedway Boogie.
Great finish!

Strider, you were there, really cool.

Good to see you here Oroborous, I thought a Spring 1990 pick might peek your interest.

Otis, as a huge Brent fan, you should consider the Spring 1990 box sets. Highly recommend.

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I think this is the thread where Jim mention Victim -> Lay Me Down (1990-04-01). I'm a huge fan of Victim, this is a great one. I think this is the depths that, Just a Little LIght, Blow Away, Foolish Heart (if Jerry could remember words when he came out of jam :-) ) could have reached. Picasso Moon probably didn't have much too go! :-) But I really like a good Corinna.

Great Victim though, thanks for pointing it out.

Is there a better "Just a Little Light", than Dozin' at the Knick? Come on? Is there? Just took it off , best.

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Only that it was a random image , not all the time. I do remember Bob and Betty being set up on a side balcony booth. Saturday night was the major rave up night. NRPS finishing their set w Honkey Tonk Woman and the crowd going bonkers, balcony shaking. Weir, Pigpen and Pigs girl friend Veronica watched the end of the NRPS set from back stage right, Bobby shaking his head as if to say”tonight’s the night”. Highlights from 2/19 for me are Smokestack Lightning. Jerry’s use of the Alembec experimental peanut guitar looked amazing after he used his Gibson SG the night before. The peanut guitar was very small in its size but belted out a sweet big sound that was especially evident during Johnny B Goode, that had most of the audience up dancing. A few people at my high school would go one night only , but I was completely consumed.
Too bad there are not many (any)more 1970 tapes. Anything from either 1970 or 1971 is no less than spectacular .