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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • Strider 808808
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    Loaded & reddy to go-go

    4/8/71 first set down (1st & down) Dark Star on deck.
    12/10/79 just uploaded from relisten.
    Phatty Patrol successful.
    Ready to a- go go.

  • Oroborous
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    Thanks too for the two for us 2

    Thanks for the stories Uncle Sam, I think I like the stories these days as much as the shows lol. Cool show, cool scene!
    You painted a nice picture, I could feel the vibe of old!

    I think ole PF likes to just toss positive ideas out into the ether, it’s up to us what sticks or not lol, but yes, we’ve been a tad schizophrenic lately DV ; )
    My take on the anniversaries is certain big year events, like 50s, especially that seem to have some sort of consensus, are good picks, or at least second picks...that’s why I’ve been trying to go twofer; the usual POTD, like today’s fine 79 pick, AND the historic 50th pick. Otherwise I find the same ole “anniversary” picks can get very predictable and boring.
    I still find the coolest thing about this place is getting turned on to awesome left field stuff that you might never had gotten to. Perhaps today’s pick will be a good example? The unpredictability, like it was going to a show; “what will they play?” (especially fun if you don’t peak!) But hey that’s just me, and I believe the only rule we have is that we have no rules...well, perhaps to be respectful to each other!

    Sorry for the editorial, now back to your regularly scheduled drumz/space...er a “twofer”

    EDIT: yeah GOGD, I’d like to hear “the rest of the story” as well as the shows. We should pencil them in over the next few days perhaps as extras if other folks have picks?

  • The Good Ole G…
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    I'm hip Fo Sure.

    Kinda want to finish that 1991 Orlando run at Disney World too.
    (I always have mixed up World & Land.. somethings never change).
    We'll see where the day takes me.
    But honestly.. I've never needed much arm twisting when it comes to Dark Star, so it's 4/8/71 first for me. ;)

    Hot Dog!

    UNKLE - Sweet memories! I always like reading stories that start out with "It was a beautiful, sunny, hot day."
    You reeled me and kept me there. Dig it, Tripping in Disney World with the whole GD Fam.
    There were days!
    Spring '91 could really sparkle at times. Sounds like this April in Orlando was one of those.
    Good stuff.
    Keep it coming, I want to hear what happened the next day after all the hash and stuff ;)

    Happy Twofer / Threefer Thursday
    Threefer sounds like reefer.

  • JimInMD
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    Twofer

    I'm in on the Twofer.. keying the first one up.. approximately... now.

  • Strider 808808
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    Do two picks today

    12/10/79 & 4/8/71
    Maybe I was not clear on my recommendation for today.
    I do not recommend every 50 year anniversary should be listened to. If it has some history involved, like Capitol Theater or Manhattan Center I would think it would behoove a deadhead to check it out.

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    Good to hear from you Otis. I am going to check this out. I love 79. A lot of great shows in 79…..... Oh and in 1980..

    Thanks for the pick.

    Stay well.

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    It was a beautiful, sunny, hot day. Very humid for April and the lot was humming with the entire family of dead freaks and heads, bozos and bolos, even the pranksters were there too. It was a lovely site, the cops on horseback helping instead of rounding up, no real hassles except on this date the opd did chase a dude into the very deep (some said bottomless) sink hole lake (actually a big pond) out in front of the since torn down old "O"rina. Not a good day for that dude as he did drown but it did not stop the festivities for the entire 3 days that the band was in town.
    Jerry and Mountain Girl and kids went to Disneyworld (not land) that morning and got back in time to rest up a bit and make the show. Jerry was well rested, had a big smile on his face throughout the show and laid down some very nice runs.
    The first set starts off with a Jack Straw, a good one and we are on our way, the cops had been told "hands off" for this show and the smell of cannabis was everywhere inside the arena. It was like the old days, everyone happy, everyone stoned and the band in good spirits. Then into Sugaree, Jerry just fine, voice and playing, then into wang dang doodle which got the crowd groovin' into the meat of the first set with Row Jimmy, a bit slow and the crowd wanes a bit but the Black Throated Wind was extra good into the 3rd and final performance of Rubin and Cherise, which had a few around us looking puzzled, as they did not recognize the song. It was a fine version and Jerry belts it out. Followed by a promised land. There was a buzz around the lot earlier that they had broke out some old classics but no one mentioned Rubin, it was a big surprise and very well done, then into Promised Land to end a short but awesome first set.
    The second set starts off with Crazy Fingers, you know it's gonna get good now, and it did. The second set is just sublime with Playin'>UJB into a killer drums with Mickey and Billy just wailing away, Mickey on the Bean which sent a few from the front running to the back. We got a kick out of that, newbees were not ready for that, into a beautiful space that Jerry shreds on into a nice box that was requested by someone who's dad was sick and Phil responded beautifully. Then GDTRFB, had not heard that one in quite a while and we all danced and danced. Then Bobby follows that up with Lovelight, never thought I would hear that song again, not the Pig version but still a rarity that didn't get much play since Pig left us. All over now was the encore and we left the orena and stumbled back to our room. We had rented a room at the Omni right next door to the orena and had it for 2 nights, party central and just about any favor that you wanted was there.
    We got wasted on Black hash and red bud Colombian all night. I had brought some tripping lps with us and we rented a turntable from the hotel. Just after this show, the omni got sold and we paid for the rooms in advance but the rentals were extra and were to be billed to us later. We never got a bill. We slept in a bit the next day then wandered down to the lot for another day of full on partying until the next show, which is another story. Ps, another great show, so much fun that they added a third show.

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    Dark Star . Go for it. Today . 50 years later.

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    If ya'll are into it, I encourage you to check out the KC Masterpiece that is 12/10/79.

    Solid first set with a rocking CRS>GSET opening combo and a stellar Dancin'>Franklins that is the best of that 79 groove, and a nice, quick, high-energy Deal to close it out.

    Killer 2nd set with an OFF THE HOOK FOTM (sadly, the Scarlet is only in AUD), but the Fire is stratospheric! A must listen, IMHO. After a bummer "Easy to Love You" (easy to love you, Brent, but ewww...) things get back on track with LIG>He's Gone>Truckin' that is lights out - the Truckin' is incredibly high-energy ROCK AND ROLL! then Drums>Space>Wharf Rat (gorgeous)>JBG (rocking!) ends the set, USBlues encore (also rocking!)

    Not sure why this show seems to be under the radar - it is a SMOKER through and through. Here is a link to the Matrix:
    https://archive.org/details/gd1979-12-10.126986.mtx.dusborne.flac16

    Oh, don't let the flubs in Peggy-O set you off course. There is a TON of incredible stuff coming down the pike!

    Peace
    https://archive.org/details/gd1979-12-10.126986.mtx.dusborne.flac16

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    It's still potd

    I just tend to let my inner GD nerd out here

    and elsewhere

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

If we are going to do 11/8/69, I am going to have to carve out the requisite amount of time like we did Saturday.. no distractions, no cell phones, no texts, no questions, no one tapping me on my shoulder.. and not the dreaded words, "one more thing" .. and of course get in the proper frame of mind beforehand.

Honestly.. these two shows, add in 2/14/68, 2/13&14/70, sprinkle in FW 69 for good measure and I have taken a liking to 1/2/70 + Bonus disc and an honorable mention for what I think of when I want to get in the transportation business.

Boy does listening to these shows take a lot out of you.. perhaps that's why they wrote AB & WMD.. to slow things down just before we careened off that cliff and into mental oblivion.

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GMLSG sounds as smooth as butter,,,

re, Well... I just hit play but, I paused it. Jim, when is a good time for you I'll wait??

The planets seem perfectly aligned this Thursday. That seems enough time to plan.

That will give us some time to switch things up too.. play around the calendar, pick shows from different periods too.

Does that give us enough time to plan?

That's a pretty nifty number ya got there!

I am all for Dick's 16, but if we need to pause on it to soak up Jai-Alai, I get that too. Let's keep this thing going! I am all for GD from any era!

Today was a good day for 74 Dead around here. Shortly after my early morning Dave's 34 was delivered (at 6:30 am!) I got another package from Real Gone containing Dick's 31, which I looked into after all of the discussion around these parts.

I hope I don't over do the 74 stuff - wait, I don't think that will ever happen.

Peace

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....and the sound is already impeccable. And to quote Bobby "Its the real thing".
Just like Billy Sunday in a shotgun ragtime band. This pick came at the right time.

We can pause while the WOS gently peels the plaster from our ceilings.

Whatever works.

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Okay on the pause for the Picks. I will keep my own going tomorrow as my #34 is still in CA.. Okay, no whining here, that gets old.

Oh yah I might have chased a couple women around..., the waiting is the hardest part.

Week eight of this crap, be well people.

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No problem all good. Those who have received the 34 happy listening!

"New ones coming as the old ones go"

Alright, sounds like the Pick of The Day is in hold pattern as we wait for & listen to the Pick of The Dave.

#34 to be exact - 6/23/74 & 6/22/74 Bonus Disc

Roger that.

I'll proceed accordingly...

Sherman set the Wayback machine to June 1974, we're going to listen to the Wall of Sound.

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I love the overlap of old ( psychedelic ) & new ( country/workingmans ) . It’s the palindrome 69 major phase shifting. The sound of small venues compared to larger halls or outdoor concerts all have different ambience . Same goes for instruments ( Jerry’s guitars) . Gibson SG in 1969-70. A whole slew of different axes in 1971. Wall of Sound 1974, with Doug Irwin Wolf Guitar.
Suggesting different eras of GD has been educational, even heard / seen fresh, and in 2020. Who would have known fifty years ago.

RE: STRIDER 88

Interesting observation and I believe you've tapped into something.

Hypothesis:
Does inspiration then lead to a love of learning?

I would venture to guess.. Yes!

Prediction:
Being inspired by Grateful Dead music, if I listen to the Grateful Dead from many eras over and over and over, through the course of many days and years, I'll want to learn more and will be loving it!

Test Prediction:
Continue listening to lots and lots of Grateful Dead from many different eras and discuss with friends.. ad infinitum

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Perfect timing. I got an amp and speakers on the way. Had to take advantage of the 30% offer. I got the speak's for half price and ac line filter for free. I'll be putting off listening to 34 till I get set up.

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Carson, CA 5.5.90. 30th anniversary.My final Brent shows.
https://archive.org/details/gd1990-05-05.141262.sbd.miller.flac2496/05S…
Rumors were rampant these shows that Timothy Leary was backstage dosing everyone. The band does sound "fat and juicy", so I can see where it could be true. Phil was turned WAY up.
I remember hanging out with some hare krishnas after the show eating free rice.

Strider...I think Jerry started playing a strat at some gigs in 1969, and on through 1970, as well as the mighty SG. This always seemed to me to be a signifier of the bands gradual shift to a more country based sound. As you indicate, they could still turn on the psychedelic power in 1969 and 1970 - but the times they were a changing .

Whew.. saved from an 11/8/69 induced nervous breakdown.

Edit: Saved for now. It's always the bats that start these things. Well, a melty PITB, then the bats. Look out for Dark Star>The Other One>Dark Star's too. A sure sign that society is in collapse.

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Bats have got themselves a bad reputation lately. Hunter knew it long ago.

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DaveRock , I can only go on photographs before 1970. I believe you’re correct, Jerry would use a strat for some late 69-70 songs. Of the ten times I saw them in 1970 I only remember the Gibson SG. 1971 was all over the map. Starting with seeing the SG my last time same night as Mickeys last show 2/18/71. The next few nights was the peanut Alembic experimental . By April Jerry was playing a Les Paul and then the peanut some nights. First time I saw Jerry play a Fender Stratocaster was at the Felt Forum 12/4/71. Then 2-3 strats through 72/ 73. The Wolf was a real game changer.
This is a fresh way of listening the good ole Grateful Dead.

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Strider...I am only going off photographs of course-I have nothing like the first hand experiences you are talking about. It must have been amazing to see them in 1970-1971-truly a mythical time. The photos I remember of him with a strat in 1969-70 are mainly in the Taping Compendium. Jerry is holding a sunburst strat in the picture accompanying the Feb 70 shows.
Its always interested me which guitars he played at shows-and Bob too, to a lesser extent. I watched the Festival Express dvd a few weeks ago, and Jerry is jamming with...a band who's name escapes me...but he is playing a tele. I don't think he played one of those very often.

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Good call Daverock, I need to watch that this weekend

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Thanks for joining in on this one Vguy and Jim. Loved the cover last night Vguy. Recording is Multi Track excellence as all these shows are. Have not listened to this show in maybe three years. Of the three Omni shows, I usually pull 4/3/1990, maybe because of that glorious Shakedown opener.
Anyway, Vguy, agree with you on this show. Great first set, with a great Althea, to Lay me Down, Music Never Stopped. Even the Victim is good. China Rider, what did that guy say last night about Ship of Fools??
Great Truckin, Stella, Sugar Magnolia and one of favorite encores, It's All Over Now Baby Blue. Great show.

Check it out if you have not listened in a while.

Be well all!

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....Victim -> Lay Me Down -> MNS is solid. Raucous Sugar Mags. And who doesn't like a Baby Blue? I know this guy does!

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I'm half way through 4/1/90. Althea was playing on our boombox at a motel room at an airport at the giants show in '89 with my friends. Like anyone would care.

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He called us fools talking about potholders and other normal things. Strange.

I didn't make it through the whole show.. but made it beyond the Victim/Lay Me Down. Let it be known I LOVE To Lay Me Down, but the Victim was so much better ( a song I don't normally adhere to).

Anyway.. just had to comment. Not coherent enough to add much more than that.

Who's fucking idea was it to watch Festival Express anyway.. a great yet terrible idea all at the same time. Thank god nobody drives cars anymore. My liver and my lungs both suddenly hurt both at once.

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Man, it was HOT down there!

Anyway, just catching up. I did dabble with disc 2 of Dick's 16 the other night... that is some mind-altering stuff. It looks like yesterday was 4/1/90 - just started "Touch" now.

Today is Three from the Vault? Sounds good to me :)

Peace

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Sounds grate, and it’s not even Plangentized.

Smokestack Lightning! Grease it up.

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I’m there. And was there.

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I loved that Omni show! I didn't get either of the Spring 90 boxes, so this show was new to me (at least for a good, quality sit-down and listen.) I LOVED it! The band is so hot, Brent in particular was on fire, the Bobby tunes rocked, and there were so many high-quality Jerry ballads. I mean, a show that has a "Candyman" "To Lay Me Down" "Ship of Fools" "Stella Blue" AND "Baby Blue" - c'mon... all played very well too!

Just started on 2/19/71 - the first Billy-solo show. Was this chosen to celebrate Billy's b-day? Good choice! I haven't listened to this one in a while!

Peace

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I remember from 2/19/71 was, “where’s Mickey?”. Was disappointed at the beginning of the show. The level of musicianship had greatly evolved since 1967 or last time as five piece. They blew the roof off the Capitol Theater that night. Jerry played his Alembec experimental “peanut” guitar for the first time on 2/19 and continued to play it the next several nights.I went Thursday through Sunday nights. I vaguely remember Weir commenting on Sunday as it being slow. As I remember it was sold out all nights. Unlike November 1970 shows in Port Chester when I could buy tickets night of the shows at the box office. Fillmore East was harder to get Dead tickets and February 71 shows sold out in hours . I bought tickets by getting in line at 5 am on a December (1970) Saturday morning. “What’s become of the baby that cold December morn”. Blair Jackson was in that same ticket line. 70/71 was quite the phase shift. Keep em guessing.

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Strider...do you remember much about the ESP experiments at these shows?

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Nice pick Conekid!.
Always thought it was odd this came out in 2007 and with no real explanation why it took so long to get it out.

Great recording with A+ sound quality. Really good Truckin, Dark Hollow, China Rider. Really liked the Greatest Story, early Bird Song. Did somebody say, Easy Wind? This was great and I wish this got more play as well as New Speedway Boogie.
Great finish!

Strider, you were there, really cool.

Good to see you here Oroborous, I thought a Spring 1990 pick might peek your interest.

Otis, as a huge Brent fan, you should consider the Spring 1990 box sets. Highly recommend.

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I think this is the thread where Jim mention Victim -> Lay Me Down (1990-04-01). I'm a huge fan of Victim, this is a great one. I think this is the depths that, Just a Little LIght, Blow Away, Foolish Heart (if Jerry could remember words when he came out of jam :-) ) could have reached. Picasso Moon probably didn't have much too go! :-) But I really like a good Corinna.

Great Victim though, thanks for pointing it out.

Is there a better "Just a Little Light", than Dozin' at the Knick? Come on? Is there? Just took it off , best.

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Only that it was a random image , not all the time. I do remember Bob and Betty being set up on a side balcony booth. Saturday night was the major rave up night. NRPS finishing their set w Honkey Tonk Woman and the crowd going bonkers, balcony shaking. Weir, Pigpen and Pigs girl friend Veronica watched the end of the NRPS set from back stage right, Bobby shaking his head as if to say”tonight’s the night”. Highlights from 2/19 for me are Smokestack Lightning. Jerry’s use of the Alembec experimental peanut guitar looked amazing after he used his Gibson SG the night before. The peanut guitar was very small in its size but belted out a sweet big sound that was especially evident during Johnny B Goode, that had most of the audience up dancing. A few people at my high school would go one night only , but I was completely consumed.
Too bad there are not many (any)more 1970 tapes. Anything from either 1970 or 1971 is no less than spectacular .