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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • unkle sam
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    Oroborous asked the question

    "Did the Grateful Dead inadvertently kill Jerry? That's a good question and one that has been asked many times and discussed alot over the last 25 years. Wow, 25 years since Jerrbear left us. In my opinion, Jerry loved to party and play and be in the moment, the Grateful Dead fed that jones right up to the end. He loved us all so much, he played until he couldn't play anymore, and still kept trying. Did the Dead help in his demise? perhaps, but it was also all of it, the life, the drugs, the parties, the pressure....it's hard to say except that I still miss him dearly. Love you Jer
    I sometimes wonder to myself what the world would be like if Jerry was still alive, I believe he had a calming effect on the universe and when he left us, a lot of that kind, calm went with him.

    Thanks Daverock for the CD's, Tangerine Dream weekend coming up.

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    6 21 84

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    As AJS stated, there’s no need for an apology. It is literally impossible to hurt my feelings, especially in writing. I love disagreement, and I’m not afraid of opinions opposite of my own.
    I’ve re-read my post more than once, and I cannot see a “personal insult” to you or anyone else. One of the many points I was trying to convey was that there’s nothing wrong with disliking ANY artist, as was stated earlier, music and love of It is ENTIRELY subjective. I just don’t think we need to use adjectives that are detrimental. I can disagree with you about an artist, but that doesn’t make either one of us right or wrong. As Dan Fogelberg once said, “if even one person likes an artist, that legitimizes that artist“. I really did not want to stir the pot.
    So please, don’t apologize to me. Unless you steal something from me, it’s not necessary.
    And besides Oro, I enjoy 98% of your posts. Keep ‘em coming. Arguments are ok, respectful arguments are better. And besides, you don’t want to make me list another 30 or 100 artists I like!!

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    My top 5 Grateful Dead years in order

    1) 1970, 2) 1969, 3) 1971, 4) 1972, 5) 1973

  • Angry Jack Straw
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    I honestly don’t think anyone was out of line expressing their opinions. No need whatsoever for anyone to apologize.

    For what it’s worth, I was never a fan. To steal a line I heard years ago; Springsteen is like my sex life. Lots of effort, but not much talent.

    It’s the Fourth of July , so everyone should just relax and have a beer. No such luck for me. I agreed to join my underage daughter in a three month sabbatical from drinking and dessert. Poor timing for me, especially considering that our air-conditioning went out today.

    Thanks for the Festival Express link. What a neat movie. My favorite part was when the camera panned the crowd and there was Garcia right up front watching another band perform. The other cool thing about the movie is the intensity on the band members’ faces. They were really into what they were doing.

    Glug, glug.

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    Can’t wait to wrest how this release will go!....

    WORKINGMAN'S DEAD (50TH ANNIVERSARY DELUXE EDITION)

    ...*** FOR THE COMMITTED
    AND THE CURIOUS
    Gather round every Thursday as we tell the tales of Grateful Dead days of yore! The Good Ol' Grateful Deadcast, the first official podcast of the Grateful Dead, is devoted to exploring the music and mythology behind one of the most enduring, progressive, and influential bands in the history of recorded music. Here, we invite you to delve into the band’s enormous mythology in digestible chunks. Think you know it all? We'll probe corners of the band’s history you never knew existed. No topic will be off limits.
    Hosts Rich Mahan and Jesse Jarnow will take the lead, picking up special guests from the Dead universe along the way. Upcoming episodes will feature interviews with Dennis McNally, David Lemieux, David Nelson, Bill “Grateful Red” Walton and Trixie Garcia, amongst many others.
    To celebrate the 50th anniversary of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, we're kicking things off with an eight-episode arch that examines each song on the album individually.
    May the long strange trip continue across the pod! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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    Not sure if the negative rebuttals regarding the Boss are directed at me? But I feel I need to reply.
    First, I said more positive things about him than negative. I emphatically stated he’s a great songwriter, entertainer/performer, storyteller, and that my understanding was that Born in the USA was a anti jingo song.
    I also, like others, mentioned that his awesome talent is not so much as a musician, (meaning comparatively to say JG), but with these above mentioned awesome skills.
    What I did say was that I’m just not a big fan, especially of the band, and more specifically I’ve never liked their sound. Jerry once said he couldn’t get into the Doors because they sounded too brittle to HIM....does that mean he’s just using a pejorative generalization? NO, it just means he didn’t like the way they sounded so couldn’t really get past that!
    Same here folks! In fact if anyone is making generalizations it was not me. Some Rubes said some unsubstantiated down and dirty things about Bruce, but I actually tried to explain WHY I don’t like their sound, and thus have never been able to move past that, and therefore,.....here’s the funny part, the point I was ironically, really trying to express was how much his on Broadway solo performance on Netflix blew me away and changed my perspective!
    So to assume I’ve never listened (I’ve listened to Bruce for over forty years wether I wanted to or not on the radio or elsewhere, including living with the misses for 23 years as she’s a huge fan!), so to make such an assumption : that I’ve not listened and thus don’t know what I’m talking about, just because I have a difference of opinion, is actually doing exactly what your accusing me of!
    Also, I don’t think I was shitting on anything, and if I was, I apologize. I admit I could of been a tad less harsh, but if you know me that was some-what exaggerated for humorous affect, and yes, to hopefully elicit more discourse?
    So I’m totally bummed that my personal colorful critique of a 80s pop band caused such a reaction. And yes, I understand most of his best work was before then, and he continued to do so well after the 80s, but to me, sorry, when somebody mentions Bruce, that’s my first thought, that Born in the USA thin pop sound, with no improvisation or any of the things I find important in music. And so yes, as people often do so as to hopefully make a point without having to ramble on like this and micro explain, I used a general phrase, wedding band, to make a point, but I can certainly continue to pontificate why I don’t like their sound etc if you like, but hopefully I’ve made my point. Simply, my personal opinion of WHY I don’t like them, so what?
    Because as most here know, opinions are like A-holes, everyone’s got one, but some of ours work too much...
    Again, I apologize for the way I expressed my opinion, but not that I expressed one. I mean come on, that’s a lot of what we do here, we express our thoughts, and hope we get positive feedback, or respectful discourse, which to me can be just as fun, bantering differing ideas about, than everybody always agreeing about everything....
    So Mr Ones et el, I totally agree with everything you said up until you personally insulted me!
    Buts it’s ok, it’s all good, I can take criticism. I’ve been taking it my whole life. It’s part of being a fuck up LOL
    So peace be with you as LMG would say, and again, please except my apologies if I’ve offended anyone!

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    Big Hello to JRF and thanks for that awesome TJ with Morello. One of those instances when it caught me off guard and just right.

    BILLY THE KID: ditto, thanks for the awesome postS. Can you see how happy Jerry was? I swear as magnificent as the Dead is I sometimes feel I’d rather watch JG with other folks in low profile situations, which is what I did for a while after your Sweetwater songs. Los Lobos, Santana, you name it he could step in and just fly. Think back to all the awesome projects he was working on in the later years that had little or nothing to do with the Dead and it’s really quite a list of really great stuff. As has been speculated before.....have to wonder what might of been if they would have just taken some time off and/or not toured so much. Did the Dead inadvertently kill Jerry?...

    6/21/84: I was there, and don’t recall much except we dropped right on the international border going over the peace bridge, and yeah, that was a blistering Scarlet/Fire, oh and the Band was good, and fun on the encores including I think my first Big Boss Man?

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    Hello, I recently got a Spring 1990 The Other One Box except it came without the 144 page book. I was wondering If anyone had an extra book they would be willing to sell me here. I see individual shows from this set posted on eBay from time to time so assume they may be out there. If you got an extra or know where to find one please PM me. Many thanks

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    Getting closer

    I shiver with antici........

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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You'd get right to work if you had any sense,
You know the one thing we need is a left-hand monkey wrench.

- That's cool about 2/21/71

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Let me know if you get a response from your email. No need both of us sending an email. Thanks. That hatchet looks cool.

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Finishing up a first listen to 6/23/74, haven't had a chance to listen to the bonus disc yet, but this is good stuff. Also beyond psyched to see the Workingman's Dead 50th anniversary release bonus is 2/21/71 from the multi-track recordings, should sound fantastic and I've wanted more from that run of shows since 3FTV came out. I don't know what they have planned for the second half of the year, but so far the releases this year have been spectacular on all levels.

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Are we commenting and listening to this show tomorrow?

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....you're on the wrong board. I'm getting confused now too. After Workingman's announcement, i now have four pages bookmarked. This one, '76 Box, Workingman's and Pick of the Day with discussion. Whew!! A Workingman's day is never done i tell you.

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Plus an extra 3 Playing in the Bands. I'm leaving the full show for tonight. Absolutely astounding how good this shit sounds. The transition into Wharf Rat is worth the price of admission.

Kind of an odd way to release the second Port Chester show, but I did just find out a minute ago and I am out walking in the rain. Headed straight home to order that fucker. Did they say how many are being released? My phone is full of water and I can't scroll or do shit. I better not miss out on this Portchester show. All right, I'm coming out! Any man I see out there, I'm gonna kill him! Any sonofabitch takes a shot at me.. I'm not only gonna kill him, I'm gonna kill his wife, all his friends, and burn his damn house down! Anybody don't want to get killed better head out the back!

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Nice unforgiven reference! I love that movie, I'll watch it anytime I see it on. "I'll see you in hell William Munny"......"yup"

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I got home and I ordered it. And I decided before I start dinner here, before I even logged back into this Dave's Picks 34 page that I would post a little YouTube clip I thought I recalled of Bugs Bunny saying something to the effect of "oops, I lost my composure for a second there". But I couldn't remember which episode it was from or anything and I just decided screw it, that's enough Shenanigans for 1 hour. And then of all the avatars for you to have..... it's not as though I've seen it before. Uncanny. But you can't beat classic Bugs.....

Icecreamconekid- do you get up at 7 and go to work at 9? Do you get home at 5 and take yourself out an ice cold beer? And finally, do you always seem to be wondering why there's nothing going down here? If so, I think you've more than likely reached the correct self-diagnosis.

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Ahhh, classic bugs. I cant recall which episode u speak of, and I thought I remembered them all. Most of all, I thank bugs for all the classical and opera music I was exposed to at a young age. LOVE the barber of Seville, also the spear and magic helmet episode! My avatar is actually a gif where they just keep taking turns ripping off the posters. Funny I always figured bugs to be the deadhead...

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Don’t ever forget.

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Sent you a pm

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What Jim said makes perfect sense and also bodes well for the crowd in general. There's like nothing available from the second half of 70 anyway because Bear was off getting arrested. We are finally after more than 10 years getting another show coming out of that Port Chester run which people have been clamoring for every time there's talk about a box set of the year. If I'm Dave Lemieux, I think the real rip-off is selling a six show box set where everyone has one of the shows already anyway. He's probably thinking this is perfect. We'll get some great multi-track shows out with what's already a successful anniversary program of releases (and I'm assuming we'll get another one with American Beauty 50th), and then three more from Port Chester that can come out as a 3 show box at any old time. He's probably reading his comments I'm thinking these people to smoke too much weed.

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....I occasionally tip, but yea, KISS does rule! And dead.net wants to sell me a sharp object. 2020 Kicks Axe!!
Re: 2.21.71. There's a 1 1/3 Ripple, an early Greatest Story, an Easy Wind (can't really say truthfully you can't get enough of those) and a King Bee. I'm AOK over here.
Oops. Wrong board. Dammit!.
Current listening as I type? Low Budget - The Kinks. Finishing up now.
. Still working through the catalog.

....OK, so I'm only four minutes in, and it is spot on and glorious. Phil took command so hard, he made Weir forget the words. Love it. Playin' In The Band indeed.
I pray that the heads that haven't received this yet get it soon. Godspeed.

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....yet cohesive. Ebb and Flow. Ying and Yang. Cheech and Chong. Then they proceed to tidy it up and bring it back together in a nice little bow into the final turn. Jerry even throws out a little flair as a crescendo because he knows they blew the roof off. Outstanding musicianship and a very impressive Playin'.

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My copy is now trackable through USPS using the UPS Alternate Tracking Number. It would seem to be on its way across the pond. Tracking information states:

Your item was processed through our LOS ANGELES CA INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTION CENTER facility on May 1, 2020 at 11:09 pm. The item is currently in transit to the destination.

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Better call Saul!
Blew through all 5 seasons of BB and that El Camino movie. Definetly good shite, but I wouldn’t call it “the GOAT”. I will say that it was hard for me to like Walt. Besides being a colossal dumbass, he was kind of a prick too. Saúl on the other hand cracks me up. Just finished season 1 of Better Call.....good sheet, finally watched after hearing about it all these years!

Oh, and Dave’s 34 for all you unfortunate bastards suffering the consequences of New Release Envy......it is real, and it’s spectacular! And once again I think the bonus disc steals the show! 8 red sweethearts outta 10! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Hope y’all receive yours soon!

This just in; Brian Howe of Bad Company has joined the ancestors. May the four winds blow him saftley home.

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....still-a-rollin' by over here. No sign of DaP34 emerging from the black hole that is my local postal hub. I've replied back to THEIR email to me sayin' "we'll be in touch within 24 hours...." cause, guess what? FAIL!

Time will tell if this has the mass to escape said Black Hole or if it will end up on the other side of oblivion with Maximilian embodied by Dr. Reinhardt...

Glad to hear this is a virtual knockout, otherwise!
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Dude, I know from your posts you live close by, I am in Westborough. My post office just assured me that mine was out for delivery and I should be seeing it this afternoon. 😀 Thought this might help.

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Took a break from the ‘home office’ that I’ve been working from as of late to take a drive and spin the first disc. After spending so much time within June 76's warm butter, the first set playing in ‘74 by comparison sounds really dry and arid. A whole lot of open space around those notes. But it’s what makes a solo like heard in this To Lay Me Down sound as poignant as it does. The music didn’t melt but my head sure did! Wow. Felt good.

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I'm in the same black hole here in CA... UPS Tracking shows DaP34 was handed off to USPS on 5/1. USPS tracking shows Pre-Shipment since 4/30. I've just opened a lost mail inquiry...

Can't wait to eventually hear this. It's great to read all the rave reviews, but also kind of like torture.

In the meantime, I just picked up a copy of DiP19... the whole second set is spectacular.

I love that with this band and this community I'm still finding things that can surprise and delight me.

Cheers all.

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Perhaps my favorite Dicks. Yeah that second set is like Bubble’s water bong.....”it’s so smooth”

EDIT: thanks Jeff! Hope all y’all hanging in there with all you folks have going on....

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Finally listened last night. Overall, very good. Folks comment on the excellent sound quality. Like a lot of 74, the vocals come across as flat and thin. The jam before Ship of Fools is the highlight for me.

Bickershaw. I forgot how good that was. A raging Other One. That and 4/14 have been the renewed surprises so far.

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Pony Express brought 3480 to my cave in the hills. Hope other riders are out delivering right now those straggling copies. Super excited, but won't get a deep listen in until the weekend. Among all the goodness in this release, love to hear that the Playing from first night goes way way out. '74 is peak Playing in the Band for me, with Des Moines 6/16 the first tape to show me that glorious many-faceted world back long ago.
Good luck to those still waiting on their copy. Stay safe and healthy everyone.

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Alright was at post office today to mail a few things and I asked about if they have been seeing delays from UPS. She said they saw a lot of what we are experiencing at Christmas time. She also gave me some info, tracking numbers that start with 1 are at UPS. when the post office gets it the generate a tracking number that starts with 9... Check it out and see if it is true. Anyone else have a 9 tracking number from the post office to prove her theory, i was a little out of it when she told me. Just curious Bob t

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i have my mail innovations package in front of me. It has an MMID# which can be tracked at UPS website and shows every step of the journey. There is no corresponding barcode which can be scanned. It does not appear to be a typical UPS tracking #, more digits and begins with an 8. The primary tracking # is a USPS number beginning with 9 and a corresponding barcode. USPS only tracks this package from time it has been handed over to them by UPS. In years past, I think we were usually given a tracking # from UPS, so we could see it go through Hodgkins, IL 3 times (yep I saw that happen) and stuff like that. This year its the USPS # and that means a days long black hole of waiting for an update until its handed over. good luck everybody.

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After a uniquely nice DS the Spanish Jam is ‘ill’ in the parlance of my 15 yr old...or going back a few years, Sick...or going back to when I was a lad, it’s Bad!

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I'm here in Framingham, MA. and the Shrewsbury usps is still in limbo since may 1st. The track # from usps site begins with #9. Thanks for helping.

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This is an incredible run. Especially 3/24. That Let It Grow wildly intense.
What's with the booing in between songs on 3/24 (and maybe some on 3/23 too) ?
The crowd is very obvously into the show, so I don't know what the booing is about. Anyone know?

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Bought my 34 a la carte and got a shipping notice on May 1. Since then USPS tracking has said in bold red letters "USPS currently awaiting package" and has not updated since. No info on whether or not they have it in their possession or not. Giving it until Monday before I contact Dead/USPS

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Sitting here in limbo!!!! Is the Chicken Bone still open in Framingham? Lived in Natick for a year or so use to love to get wings from there!!! That was back in 96 so it could be long gone!!! Bob t

I was there.. I haven't a clue what the booing was about, but my memories of events that happened 33 years ago are scant. When were people booing? Most of that run is on YouTube.. perhaps that will help solve the riddle.

Maybe a door pop or asshole rowdy crowd actions? Watching one of the YouTubes now, the Hampton Spaceship could really bring out the energy in people.

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So listened on archive last evening and today

Used to not like 2 20 71

Warmed up to it last time

Sounded very sweet last evening and today

God bless the Grateful Dead

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Thanks, I went back and watched the video for 3/24/87. It looks like they were booing because someone threw a glowstick or something on stage. It actually appears to happen twice, but no booing until the 2nd time.

https://youtu.be/D_D4hw4CQRU?t=438 - The booing starts around 7:18 if anyone wants to see.

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....phish has entered the chat and farts in your general direction.

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I contain multitudes.

New Dylan album announced for June, first album of originals since Tempest on 9/11/12! So many years before.

Also a (third) new single, False Prophet, to compliment the Frankincense (Murder Most Foul) and Myrrh most foul (I Contain Multitudes) of the last month.

With the now expected terrible Dylan Clipart cover, the album Rough & Rowdy Ways named after a 1929 song by the Singing Brakeman, Jimmie Rodgers. Aka the guy that also wrote Blue Yodel #8...uh...Muleskinner Blues...

I opened my heart to the world, and the world came in.

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Bob, the chicken bone saloon has been closed for almost 18 years. Its a Mexican restaurant now. I wonder why at least 4 people from Massachusetts on this site have the same date of may 1st. All 4 of us have a stalled package at same usps with no change. The booing was probably college students that came in around the late 80s just for the party and not the dead. I used to see whole groups of them at the east coast shows and they would mock some deadheads into fights and to
harrass beer vendors in the parking lots. This was getting to be a problem going into the 90s for sure.

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Where is my copy of Dave's Picks #34 with bonus disc? supposedly it was sent out on April 27th 2020 with a tracking number but the Post office has not received the item with that tracking number yet and it's May 8th 2020 already! What's going on?

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I see my fellow local tribe members remain in limbo with delivery since the last ill-fated USPS communique of May 1st. To this end, I was able to speak with a kind gentlemen at the Shrewsbury Post yesterday afternoon. It was bit convoluted what I learned, and I will attempt to adequately summarize: in short, he said UPS still had the package. The hand off to the US Post Office hadn't occurred yet; in fact, he was able to see more than I could and noted that it was actually en route to my local Sudbury post office as of yesterday and he said it appeared it would land there today. Time will tell. Apparently, the hand off that is supposed to occur between UPS and USPS has been delayed (you DON't SAY!) and that the couple of different tracking numbers had created a bit of confusion given the pandemic, reduced staff, and carrier pigeons being on vacation. He said I could try calling my local post office later today to see if they have it - they should be able to track it with the number we have received.

So, there we have it - unfortunately nothing set it stone, but perhaps it is one step closer. I was honestly just glad it wasn't sitting in a bin somewhere discarded - which I mentioned in a quip-like fashion, to which he double-reassured me this was not the case and that it was indeed accounted-for, and moving through the system.

Fingers crossed - I'll keep folks posted if the proverbial Miracle happens to land.

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I remember some mocking from those fratboys going on in the late eighties, not towards me, but I saw a few confrontations, mostly talk and disrespect, seems like they just wanted to be loaded and ruin everyone's fun. The only thing I ever threw on stage was joints and I never got booed for that.

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