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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • The Good Ole G…
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    I'm with you on that Bob T!

    Pretty wild how good these November shows are.

  • bob t
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    Good call Good Ole!! November 72 and 73 I can listen to every day!!!! Bob t

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    Hi-Ya Kids!

    Not to keep flogging the same horse, but since there's not a pick slated for today and I've been digging into the stories around November 1972, I thought I'd share the following notes from Dick Latvala on 11/22/72 and see if anybody wants to listen to it today?

    Here's what Dick was saying about it on 9/7/97 at 12:28am (he was probably really baked, but that's impressive because he still writes really well!)
    The 2nd set jam from 11/22-Austin, is tremendous.
    It goes like this: "He's Gone->Truckin->jam->drum solo->The Other One->jam->bass solo->The Other One->Stella Blue".
    This version of "He's Gone" is one of the top 10 attempts ever. It is long and drawn out, and there is a nice long space before "Truckin", that consists of pleasing variations on the "He's Gone" theme.
    This version of "Truckin" is exceptional in that it has a lengthy section at the end that relentlessly builds and builds till there seems to be no recourse but "The Other One". Instead, they opt for a "drum solo", which comes to a complete stop, and then Phil takes over and off we go into a long and treat-filled exploration of "The Other One" (The first verses don't start until after about 30 min.)
    There are more highlights to this show. The versions of "Black-throated Wind", "China Cat->Rider", "Bird Song", "Playing in the Band", "Greatest Story", "Big River", "Ramble on Rose", "Sugar Magnolia", and "Saturday Night" each are notable and help define what an exciting show we have here.

    I know this will be a surprise, but.. he's right you know!?!
    It's an awesome show, and I think I'm going to listen to it again today.

    Also, since this is long already and most have skip past it now, I'll keep going because...
    I found some other cool stuff in relation to this November run of shows that I hadn't put together yet.

    I was reading Parish's book last night and got to the chapter where he talks about wrecking the GD Truck driving between shows in Wichita and Texas late '72 and I thought to myself... self he's talking about those shows you've been tripping out on! And sure enough, he is. Steve and Sparky got into an accident hauling the gear between that 11/17/72 Wichita show and the 11/18/72 Hofheinz shows.

    A news clipping about the 11/18 show states “The show started three hours late because one of the trucks carrying the band’s equipment overturned ‘on the only bend in the straight highway between here and Wichita Falls’.”

    The Allman Brothers Band were supposed to play as well, but cancelled after the death of bass player Berry Oakley on 11/13.

    Trippy serendipitous connections there.

    Anyhow, to further drive my current hypothesis that the November '72 Playing In The Band jams are the most killer I've listened to all week and possibly ever.
    Here's what Dick said in 1997 -
    The last 5 shows in Texas, are each worth getting. The quality is not
    so hot, but the playing is ferocious. On 11/18, in Houston, there is a
    major, top 10 of all-time, version of "Playing in the Band". (I am
    starting to think that this period has possibly the most intense versions
    ever for this defining piece of music.)
    LATVALA!

    Good stuff.

    Enjoyed 11/21/73 yesterday, and am not surprised at all by how great it is.

    And finally, yesterday's DOTD was not from Uniondale, NY and I guessed the date right :)

    Alright, be well all, enjoy some tunes and if you read all this and desire, follow your bliss, head on over to 11/22/72.

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    I went down the Garcia Sanders Band rabbit hole.

    '73 Lions Share. That My Funny Valentine hit the spot.

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    Funny I woke up this AM wondering what tune we'd get today for 30 DOTD and thinking I might actually get 30 for 30 this year, something I've kinda wanted to do, but also something I wasn't opposed to not doing, because that would mean we'd get something unknown.

    Well.. today's pick is a bit of the unknown.
    Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile.
    Or in this case... guess, guess, guess.

    Interesting little outtake. Location I'm guessing isn't listed and the Date is a speculation.
    Dang Dave.. You Got Me!

    Man, it must be kinda fun picking these out. Looking at last year we got a few unknown bits and the streak was broken early on the 9th day with an uncirculated studio outtake.

    I guess 20 for 20 ain't bad.

    BTW: After yet another far out voyage through 11/20/78, I had to go back and check out more November '72. Is this the best month for Playing In The Band? Sick sick stuff. 11/12/72 is a great show, sad the recording is jacked, but man what a smoker. The PITB on 11/13 is sooo good too, and Bear's Audience tape is incredible for '73. 11/14 is a really good show, but surrounded by Giants. And 11/22! Gotta hear it.

    Alright, I'll tell you what's going on here.
    Lay it on me.
    I'm stalling... I don't want to break my streak.

    "Steppin' free she places her feet where they fell before" - Bob Weir (Studio Demo of Weather Report Suite)

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    ....this is the way.

  • bob t
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    I can hear Bob on Shakedown and World to Give... So i have been listening to 5/21/71 Garcia and Saunders new CD... I love The Wall Song!!!! Any other versions out there that I should hear.... Can't believe I've never heard him do this song before.. It is so good!!

    P.S. Heading over to Denver Coliseum 11/20/73

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    Vinyl only so far, 27th and 28th.

    The thing is, they have been Plangentized and remastered.

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    I bought two copies when it came out in 2005, one for me and one for my brother. I hope they release it so everybody who wants it can have it.. If I didn't have it I would drop $1000. 00 dollars for an unopened copy with the bonus disc, I think it's that good.

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    Wasn't it like $99 and you get the bonus disc or something?

    Imagine, $85 free shipping and you get the bonus disc. Now that would be a thanksgiving to remember. ...or how about that jaw dropping asking price of $450 for the E72 trunk? So that would be $382.50. If we could only be king for a day....

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

If we are going to do 11/8/69, I am going to have to carve out the requisite amount of time like we did Saturday.. no distractions, no cell phones, no texts, no questions, no one tapping me on my shoulder.. and not the dreaded words, "one more thing" .. and of course get in the proper frame of mind beforehand.

Honestly.. these two shows, add in 2/14/68, 2/13&14/70, sprinkle in FW 69 for good measure and I have taken a liking to 1/2/70 + Bonus disc and an honorable mention for what I think of when I want to get in the transportation business.

Boy does listening to these shows take a lot out of you.. perhaps that's why they wrote AB & WMD.. to slow things down just before we careened off that cliff and into mental oblivion.

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GMLSG sounds as smooth as butter,,,

re, Well... I just hit play but, I paused it. Jim, when is a good time for you I'll wait??

The planets seem perfectly aligned this Thursday. That seems enough time to plan.

That will give us some time to switch things up too.. play around the calendar, pick shows from different periods too.

Does that give us enough time to plan?

That's a pretty nifty number ya got there!

I am all for Dick's 16, but if we need to pause on it to soak up Jai-Alai, I get that too. Let's keep this thing going! I am all for GD from any era!

Today was a good day for 74 Dead around here. Shortly after my early morning Dave's 34 was delivered (at 6:30 am!) I got another package from Real Gone containing Dick's 31, which I looked into after all of the discussion around these parts.

I hope I don't over do the 74 stuff - wait, I don't think that will ever happen.

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....and the sound is already impeccable. And to quote Bobby "Its the real thing".
Just like Billy Sunday in a shotgun ragtime band. This pick came at the right time.

We can pause while the WOS gently peels the plaster from our ceilings.

Whatever works.

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Okay on the pause for the Picks. I will keep my own going tomorrow as my #34 is still in CA.. Okay, no whining here, that gets old.

Oh yah I might have chased a couple women around..., the waiting is the hardest part.

Week eight of this crap, be well people.

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No problem all good. Those who have received the 34 happy listening!

"New ones coming as the old ones go"

Alright, sounds like the Pick of The Day is in hold pattern as we wait for & listen to the Pick of The Dave.

#34 to be exact - 6/23/74 & 6/22/74 Bonus Disc

Roger that.

I'll proceed accordingly...

Sherman set the Wayback machine to June 1974, we're going to listen to the Wall of Sound.

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I love the overlap of old ( psychedelic ) & new ( country/workingmans ) . It’s the palindrome 69 major phase shifting. The sound of small venues compared to larger halls or outdoor concerts all have different ambience . Same goes for instruments ( Jerry’s guitars) . Gibson SG in 1969-70. A whole slew of different axes in 1971. Wall of Sound 1974, with Doug Irwin Wolf Guitar.
Suggesting different eras of GD has been educational, even heard / seen fresh, and in 2020. Who would have known fifty years ago.

RE: STRIDER 88

Interesting observation and I believe you've tapped into something.

Hypothesis:
Does inspiration then lead to a love of learning?

I would venture to guess.. Yes!

Prediction:
Being inspired by Grateful Dead music, if I listen to the Grateful Dead from many eras over and over and over, through the course of many days and years, I'll want to learn more and will be loving it!

Test Prediction:
Continue listening to lots and lots of Grateful Dead from many different eras and discuss with friends.. ad infinitum

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Perfect timing. I got an amp and speakers on the way. Had to take advantage of the 30% offer. I got the speak's for half price and ac line filter for free. I'll be putting off listening to 34 till I get set up.

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Carson, CA 5.5.90. 30th anniversary.My final Brent shows.
https://archive.org/details/gd1990-05-05.141262.sbd.miller.flac2496/05S…
Rumors were rampant these shows that Timothy Leary was backstage dosing everyone. The band does sound "fat and juicy", so I can see where it could be true. Phil was turned WAY up.
I remember hanging out with some hare krishnas after the show eating free rice.

Strider...I think Jerry started playing a strat at some gigs in 1969, and on through 1970, as well as the mighty SG. This always seemed to me to be a signifier of the bands gradual shift to a more country based sound. As you indicate, they could still turn on the psychedelic power in 1969 and 1970 - but the times they were a changing .

Whew.. saved from an 11/8/69 induced nervous breakdown.

Edit: Saved for now. It's always the bats that start these things. Well, a melty PITB, then the bats. Look out for Dark Star>The Other One>Dark Star's too. A sure sign that society is in collapse.

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Bats have got themselves a bad reputation lately. Hunter knew it long ago.

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DaveRock , I can only go on photographs before 1970. I believe you’re correct, Jerry would use a strat for some late 69-70 songs. Of the ten times I saw them in 1970 I only remember the Gibson SG. 1971 was all over the map. Starting with seeing the SG my last time same night as Mickeys last show 2/18/71. The next few nights was the peanut Alembic experimental . By April Jerry was playing a Les Paul and then the peanut some nights. First time I saw Jerry play a Fender Stratocaster was at the Felt Forum 12/4/71. Then 2-3 strats through 72/ 73. The Wolf was a real game changer.
This is a fresh way of listening the good ole Grateful Dead.

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Strider...I am only going off photographs of course-I have nothing like the first hand experiences you are talking about. It must have been amazing to see them in 1970-1971-truly a mythical time. The photos I remember of him with a strat in 1969-70 are mainly in the Taping Compendium. Jerry is holding a sunburst strat in the picture accompanying the Feb 70 shows.
Its always interested me which guitars he played at shows-and Bob too, to a lesser extent. I watched the Festival Express dvd a few weeks ago, and Jerry is jamming with...a band who's name escapes me...but he is playing a tele. I don't think he played one of those very often.

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Good call Daverock, I need to watch that this weekend

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Thanks for joining in on this one Vguy and Jim. Loved the cover last night Vguy. Recording is Multi Track excellence as all these shows are. Have not listened to this show in maybe three years. Of the three Omni shows, I usually pull 4/3/1990, maybe because of that glorious Shakedown opener.
Anyway, Vguy, agree with you on this show. Great first set, with a great Althea, to Lay me Down, Music Never Stopped. Even the Victim is good. China Rider, what did that guy say last night about Ship of Fools??
Great Truckin, Stella, Sugar Magnolia and one of favorite encores, It's All Over Now Baby Blue. Great show.

Check it out if you have not listened in a while.

Be well all!

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....Victim -> Lay Me Down -> MNS is solid. Raucous Sugar Mags. And who doesn't like a Baby Blue? I know this guy does!

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I'm half way through 4/1/90. Althea was playing on our boombox at a motel room at an airport at the giants show in '89 with my friends. Like anyone would care.

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He called us fools talking about potholders and other normal things. Strange.

I didn't make it through the whole show.. but made it beyond the Victim/Lay Me Down. Let it be known I LOVE To Lay Me Down, but the Victim was so much better ( a song I don't normally adhere to).

Anyway.. just had to comment. Not coherent enough to add much more than that.

Who's fucking idea was it to watch Festival Express anyway.. a great yet terrible idea all at the same time. Thank god nobody drives cars anymore. My liver and my lungs both suddenly hurt both at once.

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Man, it was HOT down there!

Anyway, just catching up. I did dabble with disc 2 of Dick's 16 the other night... that is some mind-altering stuff. It looks like yesterday was 4/1/90 - just started "Touch" now.

Today is Three from the Vault? Sounds good to me :)

Peace

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Sounds grate, and it’s not even Plangentized.

Smokestack Lightning! Grease it up.

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I’m there. And was there.

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I loved that Omni show! I didn't get either of the Spring 90 boxes, so this show was new to me (at least for a good, quality sit-down and listen.) I LOVED it! The band is so hot, Brent in particular was on fire, the Bobby tunes rocked, and there were so many high-quality Jerry ballads. I mean, a show that has a "Candyman" "To Lay Me Down" "Ship of Fools" "Stella Blue" AND "Baby Blue" - c'mon... all played very well too!

Just started on 2/19/71 - the first Billy-solo show. Was this chosen to celebrate Billy's b-day? Good choice! I haven't listened to this one in a while!

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I remember from 2/19/71 was, “where’s Mickey?”. Was disappointed at the beginning of the show. The level of musicianship had greatly evolved since 1967 or last time as five piece. They blew the roof off the Capitol Theater that night. Jerry played his Alembec experimental “peanut” guitar for the first time on 2/19 and continued to play it the next several nights.I went Thursday through Sunday nights. I vaguely remember Weir commenting on Sunday as it being slow. As I remember it was sold out all nights. Unlike November 1970 shows in Port Chester when I could buy tickets night of the shows at the box office. Fillmore East was harder to get Dead tickets and February 71 shows sold out in hours . I bought tickets by getting in line at 5 am on a December (1970) Saturday morning. “What’s become of the baby that cold December morn”. Blair Jackson was in that same ticket line. 70/71 was quite the phase shift. Keep em guessing.

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Strider...do you remember much about the ESP experiments at these shows?

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Nice pick Conekid!.
Always thought it was odd this came out in 2007 and with no real explanation why it took so long to get it out.

Great recording with A+ sound quality. Really good Truckin, Dark Hollow, China Rider. Really liked the Greatest Story, early Bird Song. Did somebody say, Easy Wind? This was great and I wish this got more play as well as New Speedway Boogie.
Great finish!

Strider, you were there, really cool.

Good to see you here Oroborous, I thought a Spring 1990 pick might peek your interest.

Otis, as a huge Brent fan, you should consider the Spring 1990 box sets. Highly recommend.

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I think this is the thread where Jim mention Victim -> Lay Me Down (1990-04-01). I'm a huge fan of Victim, this is a great one. I think this is the depths that, Just a Little LIght, Blow Away, Foolish Heart (if Jerry could remember words when he came out of jam :-) ) could have reached. Picasso Moon probably didn't have much too go! :-) But I really like a good Corinna.

Great Victim though, thanks for pointing it out.

Is there a better "Just a Little Light", than Dozin' at the Knick? Come on? Is there? Just took it off , best.

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Only that it was a random image , not all the time. I do remember Bob and Betty being set up on a side balcony booth. Saturday night was the major rave up night. NRPS finishing their set w Honkey Tonk Woman and the crowd going bonkers, balcony shaking. Weir, Pigpen and Pigs girl friend Veronica watched the end of the NRPS set from back stage right, Bobby shaking his head as if to say”tonight’s the night”. Highlights from 2/19 for me are Smokestack Lightning. Jerry’s use of the Alembec experimental peanut guitar looked amazing after he used his Gibson SG the night before. The peanut guitar was very small in its size but belted out a sweet big sound that was especially evident during Johnny B Goode, that had most of the audience up dancing. A few people at my high school would go one night only , but I was completely consumed.
Too bad there are not many (any)more 1970 tapes. Anything from either 1970 or 1971 is no less than spectacular .