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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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January 21, 2021 - 2:24pm

#4721

Vguy72

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comparing Keith & Donna's last and Brent's first....

....fun fact. They repeated eight songs.
That being said, comparing the Passenger's alone is....interesting.
January 21, 2021 - 9:57am

#4722

billy the kid

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Rock thing ,great write up

Rock thing , that is a great write up on 2/17/79 you did. Big Railroad Blues hadn't been played since 1974.
January 21, 2021 - 9:29am

#4723

rockthing

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2/17/79 Second Set

PROUDFOOT, RE relieved to move on: Sounds about right.

BILLY THE KID: Nice. I thought that Greatest Story does seemed special, too. It's got tight energy, but I also don't recall hearing a Greatest Story with that free-form a guitar solo from Jerry. I was definitely startin' to think I could go for a bit more fidelity on this show, too.

THE GOOD OLE GRATEFUL DEAD: Yeah, man, from Playin' on, it's anybody's guess. The tape I Downloaded has that tracked as "Playin' >", "Drums >", "Space >", like you say. Playin' isn't really known for its drum solos, but I think I'd just keep all that as Playin' until they made a definitive move into The Wheel. I realize that no one else would ever do that. There's just Space all over the second set after Playin'. The Wheel disintegrates into Shakedown. That Shakedown back into Playin', though, eh? Definitely the stuff. You can hear Jer hinting at Playin' quite a while before they actually get there. Would not want to be responsible for seeding that. Where do I cut it?!?! :)

Man, this second set jumps like a Willys in four wheel drive.

Might as Well!!!: Went to a Dead show and a Jerry Band gig broke out! Yeah! Rocketing out the gate for the second set. Might as well. This show has a seriously stacked set list imo.

Miracle: Damn. No chance to catch your breath tonight! Jerry’s soaring, then doing some crazy runs in the first solo. Pretty manic, really, just trying to make something happen. Nice ending jam too. A drummer seems to be losing his footing or a stick or something, but no one else… Whoa!!!

Bertha!: I don’t think ANYBODY saw THAT coming, least of which the band. Whoever pulled the tempo back to something sensible is a hero, because that was about to set a record. Ohp, gonna get one of those big unison hits goin’? Not yet. Pickin’ up the pace again. Phil is not giving up on the big bang… unnnnn… not quite….hahaha. Phil’s still goin’ for it. The drummers are just hittin’ all ones like they're wired as hell. This whole second set is coming off with it’s teeth grinding. Crowd cheers an almost earthquake bass bomb, but Phill still can’t quite get everyone there. Test me! GONG. Got it. Memories starting to clear. Synchronization critical. Sounds like double kicks from the drums. What is this? The lets see how many notes we can play contest?

Good Lovin’: Nice, seamless transition. Just, suddenly their playing Good Lovin’. Nice crescendos. Jerry’s boppin’ along for the solo. One of his more coherent solos so far. They seem to have a better handle on the dynamics now. This is a really, really nice performance of this tune. Bobby’s got just the right atmosphere here. He’s givin’ it everything, but not overblowing. This will be excellent if he keeps the rap under control. No danger of Bobby sellin’ the Brooklyn Bridge. Mickey goin’ crazy with some heavy percussion runs, but they are buried deep in the mix, might not even be goin’ through the main PA. Long cheers ensue. Well deserved. That was excellent. They are taking no prisoners tonight, but that really struck the perfect balance. Wouldn't normally gush over Good Lovin', but that was excellent. At this point, I think I’d almost be wishing for five minutes of tuning.

Heart of Me. Ahh, nice farewell for Donna. Nice little breather for us, too. She sounds really good. Sounds like maybe Jerry missed a chord change and his fills are a little off key at one point early on. Nice little descending flutter from Jer that one of the drummers picks up on, adding some 16th high-hat cymbal to. Wow. Really nice. The ending was superb.

Big Railroad Blues. Jerry came to rock tonight, that’s for sure. Goovin’ on the, which solo is this? They seem to have settled down a bit from the insanity that was the teeth numbing first half of the second set.

Terrapin!: Sorta slips into the hall, almost without being noticed. Not the kind of thunderous greeting it would become accustomed to in later years. This performance seems almost quaint in its simplicity. One of the drummers continues to have happy foot. Cool guitar solo leads everyone out into open space as the various counterpoints begin to emerge, everyone expanding out into their own direction before drifting gently into a little space of equilibrium. Jer’s not quite ready for the big finale. He starts to play the melody that will bring everyone out of their trance, then decides to let the ride get a little more gentle as it drifts along. There it is. Not monumental, just recombining into a gentle reading of the last verse. Ahh.. Jer’s sweet old voice… Nice build up to counting stars, but Jerry’s vocal doesn’t quite soar. Finding the right mix of harmony without building up too dramatically and the finale has begun. This Terrapin seems, somehow, understated, but it’s difficult to say exactly what gives that impression. I mean, Mickey is off the hook as usual. Nice, Phil plays the signature melody line in a high register on the bass instead of Jerry, as Jerry continues to wiggle about with all sorts of lead lines. Mickey gets a bit too tricky for his own good, but that slightly clumsy moment doesn’t trip up anyone else.

Playin’: Just where you’d expect “Drums” to begin, nice call. Not sure I really dig the four on the floor and the open and closed high hat feel for this tune. Don’t have any particular qualms with disco Dead, or the Disco Cowboy things they did, but it feels like it’s tying Playin’ down too much. And, as soon as I type that, the bottom drops out and they out into an open ended Playin’ jam with Jer out in the echoey distance working’ the envelope filter. Really nice atmosphere here. Jerry’s makin’ sure they don’t get back to the song any time soon. Little too much kick drum in the mix is sorta harshin’ my mellow, but always happy to see a thorough deconstruction of Playin’. …and it seems to be just petering out, but then someone adds some nice textures. Almost sounds like a Fender Rhodes, but I can still hear Keith plunking away, so maybe it was Bobby… Someone in the audience hoping they’ll play I Need A Miracle, forgetting that we already heard that, what seems like several lifetimes ago. Wow. Completely abstract, now. Oh, and there IS a “Drums” track, but this feels like Playin’ with a drum solo (ok, got it), but that Playin’ jam would have definitely qualified as “Space” in a latter day show, albeit out of conventional order. Still an array of all acoustic percussion. Do I smell a Not Fade Away out of the drum solo? I see that someone has tracked this as a transition into “Space”, but all I hear are drums, still. Not hearing any “Space” here. Oh, and just as I type that, Phil joins the jam with Jerry not too far behind.

The Wheel: This setlist is a dream. Guess they didn’t have to save anything for the next night. This is a nice Wheel. They’ve really settled down into atmospheric mode after the totally outrageous start to the second set. Some cool tremolo picking from Jerry as the song breaks up.

Shakedown: Starts off a little, not a little, really… er… shaky. Nice echo effect on Jer’s guitar. Drummers haul the tempo up from the crater left by Phil’s opening bass bomb. You really get the impression that they are not working with a set list tonight. Settling in a bit just before Jerry starts the first verse. Whoo! Oh, yeah. Dancin’ shoes on now. Such a contrast. First part of set two could barely stay on the rails, but now they’re so spaced out they forget to put their foot down on the accelerator. Not a complaint, at, all. I usually imagine Shakedown jams to be more rhythmic. There’s sill a hint of the groove in the background, but well, there it went. Phil just introduced a completely different groove. Getting loose like that let’s them slip into other things, which is, I think, what’s happening now…. or not… This must be the most abstract Shakedown jam I’ve ever heard. I mean, there are literally hundreds of tapes I’ve never heard, but still. Jerry really working out now. Super fast little tremolo picking like in the high registers. Drums have started driving again. Sounds like Jerry’s teasing a Playin’ Reprise. Did they even do that in the 70s? No doubt. Jerry is definitely hinting at the Playin’ lick. Either they’re taking the long way home or they’ve given up on it. Wow. Jer getting’ pretty avant garde now. Where. Is. This. Going?! Lovin’ it!

Playin’ Reprise: Wow, Jer managed to get everyone on board for a Playin’ reprise after all that. And, damn, does it thunder onto the scene when it finally takes form. Still doin’ that insistent four on the floor thing that makes it feel kind of agro.

Sugar Mag: Love how this comes up for air out of the disintegrating Playin’ reprise. This show has had something for everyone, from super high energy numbers to complete space outs. Even with the free form mood that took over in the second half of the set, this is nice and tight; moving right along. Everyone in. Bobby thanks Bill Graham.

One More Saturday Night: Solidly above par. Wailing sayonara for Keith and Donna. I’m exhausted. What a show!
January 21, 2021 - 9:05am

#4724

Vguy72

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4.22.79 New Kid on the block....

....sounds like he fit right in and liked licorice.
January 21, 2021 - 8:36am

#4725

billy the kid

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2/17/79 4/22/79. Two great shows

2/17/79 & 4/22/79 are two great shows that should be official releases. I went to 2/17/79, it was a benefit to stop environmental cancer called Rock for Life. The show started with the lights all on in the house as the Dead blasted out a killer version of Greatest Story. The version of Don't Ease Me In was great, they reworked it when Brent joined the band and it was never the same. I didn't make 4/22/79, it was my moms birthday, we were having a party. Charlie Daniels and Greg Kihn were both on the bill before the Dead. It's so nice to hear Brent's organ playing on Jack Straw for the the first time. The Dead seemed really pumped up and into it for the whole show. This show at Spartan Stadium wasn't to far away from where the Dead played their first show as the Grateful Dead, at the San Jose Acid Test on 12/4/65.
January 21, 2021 - 8:23am

#4726

rockthing

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2/17/79 First Set

Wow. I remember thinking this was a really upbeat show considering it was Keith and Donna's last, but they must have given them one hell of a going away party. It is all goin' off in, like, every direction. I was exhausted just listening to it. This show goes from absolutely manic teeth grinding rockers and old timey tunes that barely hold it together to some seriously out there space jams. You'd have to label this with, like, three "Space" tracks if you were inclined to breaking things down as much as possible.

I already had the Bob Menke AKG source in my music library, so I was listening to that. Not checking the set list. Can’t remember what it was, other than Donna gets to sing a lot, iirc. Here and there saw the song title pop up. Sound is pretty thin. Really need to crank it.

Greatest Story: Usually like this as an opener. Jer seems to have carte blanche once his solo starts. Always a good idea in my book. Really searching and experimental as the four on the floor drives away behind him. Isn't this tune usually a little more cut and dry?

What’s Bobby saying’ about technical adjustments? Had to reach for the volume control, but still couldn’t make it out.

Don’t Ease: Damn sure am glad I left the volume where it was after that announcement. Love this tune. Haha. Oh, yeah, this must be when Bobby was learning to play slide on the job.

Mama Tried: Love this one too! Seems like there might actually be a bit too much energy, if there is such a thing. Seem to be just barely holding’ it together.

Mexicali: Despite the fact that it’s Keith’s last show, he’s been really prominent in the mix so far. Departing gift? Emotive delivery from Bobby. Jerry’s chorus vocals are really standing out too, for better or worse. This is pre-MIDI, obviously, but damn, Jer’s guitar sounded just like a trumpet for a minute there. Read somewhere about Branford Marsalis commenting that Jerry didn’t need MIDI to make his guitar sound like another instrument. This may be the proof. Can’t believe I have so much to say about Mexicali Blues!

Friend of the Devil: Chill slow tempo version. Some weird polyrhythmic syncopation goin’ on. Jer starts signing on the wrong beat, but has it together before the first verse is over. Keith gets several choruses for his somewhat aimless piano solo, before giving way to a spirited solo by Jer, who’s playing fast triplets and fluttery phrases over the slow tempo before bringing everyone in smoothly for the last verse and a strong final chorus.

Passenger: Did they ever do this again? Kinda relies on Donna. I don’t keep a Deadbase handy, unfortunately. Someone seems to get a little lost going into the “Only Game in Town” part. Jer slide solo. Bobby’s guitar is pretty much inaudible. I think the sense of roughness I’m feeling is due to both lack of rhythm guitar and Jerry trying to double on slide and normal fretted runs. It’s a tough juggling act. Pretty wild ride, this one. Stretchin’ out the second solo. Thought they were gonna end it in a jam, but someone brings it back to sing one more chorus before the ending, but it appears the memo did not circulate widely. Donna seems to be the only one who managed to get back to the chorus on time, but everyone recovers beautifully to end. I read that Phil wrote this song because he wanted to hear some raunchy guitar playing from Jerry and Bob. Well, he got it that time.

High Time: Wow. That's not something I normally expect to hear. Nice, delicate interplay from everybody. Pretty difficult song, actually. Not surprising it didn't see much action on stage.

Looks like Rain: Never really warmed up to this tune. That said, sometimes it gets stuck on repeat in my head and no matter what I do, I cannot stop hearing it… What the hell’s with those loud snare hits? lol My guess is that prankster Mickey, but who knows? Still laughing. Sounds like someone wants to pick up the tempo a bit. This is actually a pretty sensitive rendering of this song.

Jack a Roe: Electric! There’s something else ya don’t hear every day. Man, this show is absolutely stacked with tunes I totally love. Again, can’t hear Bobby’s guitar at all. Keith has been reigned into the mix better at this point. Phil’s givin’ it his all playing in and out of Jerry’s first solo. Ahh.. there’s Bob. Welcome to the show, dude. Sounds like only one drummer at this point, too. Pretty sparse, but then again, as much as I love this tune, there’s not a whole lot for everyone to do.

Lazy Lightning/Supplication: Period piece. Dunno why Bobby gave up on so many of his old tunes in favor of blues numbers, and Dylan covers. Donna sounds strong here. I believe I read that she and Keith actually wanted out at this point, so perhaps that contributes to the sense of jubilance (not a word apparently) here and Keith’s relative engagement. Jerry really, really, flying again. Float in’ like a butterfly, stinging’ like a bee. Phil senses blood and a jamming frenzy ensues. I guess if Bobby never cued them to go back into the song everyone else’d just go on forever like that…hmmmm…. It is so manic at this point, I don’t see how you could even dance to it. Spinners’d be achieving physical lift off, I think, depending on the robustness of their skirts.
January 21, 2021 - 7:46am

#4727

proudfoot

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Tonight on "Wha'appen?":

My theory is the agreement to part ways happened, everyone was relieved about it, so they made 2/17/79 special.
January 21, 2021 - 7:35am

#4728

The Good Ole G…

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Grateful Dead Memories

2/17 is good stuff.

Based on what I was reading, Donna mentions her & Keith discussing leaving the band through out the last tour. So maybe it was agreed upon between 2/11 in St. Louis & 2/17 in Oakland. Just speculating.

In regards to Tracking, since Rockthing brought that up....
I'm feeling it as Playing In The Band > Drums > Space > Wheel > Shakedown Street > Playing In The Band Jam > Reprise.
The Jam after Shakedown seems to turn into a PITB jam at around 12:30.
I like to give PITB as much labeling as possible, so that I'll pick that show out and listen to it again.
PITB rules.
(All of the above is killer! Listen to Jerry's voice in Terrapin & The Wheel segue is sweet, but that jam from Shakedown into Playing Jam is the stuff.)

Alright, I feel I'd not be performing my obligation to the nation if I didn't mention the 4/17/79 Rehearsal tape as a potential listen before you blast off into 4/22/79.

I gotta do it.

Keep on Rocking, Rockers.

PS - 2/9/73 was one of my first 3 bootleg tapes, it still gets me every time, so I'm with ya on that Jim.
Mickey was right they were into Time Travel.
January 21, 2021 - 7:02am

#4729

JimInMD

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Tapes / Spartan Stadium and Maples Pavilion

I remember dropping off a 10 pack of TDKs with an acquaintance. I got 4/22/79 Spartan Stadium, 2/9/73 Maples Pavilion and 06/29/76 Auditorium Theater - Chicago in the same box. They contained their share of new songs (with Spartan Stadium, not so much songs but a new keyboard player).

I ended up getting a few more boxes from the same friend before geography and time brought that to an end. I have a crystalline memory of these first listens, like opening up another world of shows, songs and peeks into parts of eras I had no prior exposure into. Like Christmas morning..

In my mind all the shows from that glorious 10 pack take up the same real estate in my frontal lobe. Funny how memories work, especially grateful dead memories.
January 20, 2021 - 11:48pm

#4730

rockthing

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:) :) :) Replies and on to 2/17/79

DAVEROCK, JIMINMD, VGUY72, OROBOROUS, THE GOOD OLE GRATEFUL DEAD,

Hey. Thanks for the shout outs. :) :) :)

Used to listen to Infrared Roses A LOT. Threw it on a couple weeks ago. Hadn't heard it in ages. Dark Star into drums and space, yeah, definitely wanna think of that all as Dark Star. Another one would be the fairly frequent, Drums > Space > Other One, 'cause there used to be that drum solo bit between it and Cryptical.

My mind changes every day, with or without assistance. I totally get the listening point of view of boards as though they are a studio album recorded live. That would be a fantastic concept for a band, actually. I mean, just 'cause /I/ think the vocals are too loud doesn't mean anything. There are some really cool experimental records out there that totally throw all the rules out the window. A matrix is difficult to do and even more difficult to do well. As you say, sometimes they can be really well done. Anthem is a pretty good example of a Matrix very weirdly done. :P I'm often quite satisfied by boards, my ears adjust to the source, I think, but I tend to wanna see what the tapers managed to get up to first. As you say, once the tapers section was established, we can start to pick and choose to taste.

Never finished writing about the Cal Expo show. I most certainly was not there, so got nothing new to say in that respect. Being there, it goes without saying, really, changes perception/reception. First night sounds interesting, too. Cool set list, at least. Note taken.

Standing on the Moon is probably my favorite Built to Last tune, and fits into the group of Jerry tunes that I really love, the glacial show stoppers. Speaking of show stoppers, Throwin' Stones, I think, must have been really important to Bobby, and maybe the whole band, but as someone else said, here we go again. I think there might be some psychology involved too, 'cause as soon as you hear the tune start, you know the show's all over but for the shouting. (literally!) It's a really wonderful song, but suffers from over saturation. As far as sources go, it was pretty close to a toss up between the Coniff and MK2 source. Had to choose one. I chose MK2.

Keith and Donna's last show. Haven't had that on in a while. Memory agrees with whoever it was who said it was surprisingly upbeat. That's the impression I was left with. I read the same story about their departure being agreed in advance of this show. As someone else noted, however, who knows? With that said, I think I'll get to it.

Again, thank you for the warm welcome.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

5/8/77

Yes, for sure Vguy!I

Holy shit, not that I forget about it, but, this one for me always deserves a very loud and focused listen.

I know there have become naysayers regarding this release, but man it is really good.

Be well folks.

Its engrained in a heads DNA....

....whether you like it or not.

@ DeadVikes RE: Spring 90 Boxes

I have been keeping an eye out for them, but they are pricey! I would love to see an "All Music Edition" released - I would be all over that, but if I recall, there was mention at release of the original box that there would not be an AMR, nor would the individual shows be released for sale.

Thankfully, I have access to most (all?) of these shows from LMA, and I have a number of them DL'd that sound good.

Now, I think I hear Cornell calling...

Happy Friday, DeadLand

Peace

Being that it’s Friday

I’m going to save my listen of 5-8-77 until late afternoon/evening, when the beer starts flowing.

Oh yeah, Shakedown Stream. Don’t think I’ve ever seen the 7-2-89 video, so need to fit that into the schedule too.

But for now it’s coffee, and what to listen to....?

6-24-85 30 Trips it is.
One of only two official 85 releases.....
More 85 please Dave.
So many good ones from the summer, can’t pick just one, might need a Box.

@ IceCreamKid RE: 6/24/85

I think I'll join you! I started Set I of Cornell, but only made it to "El Paso" before work interfered. I think I will put a pause on 5/8/77 and hop on that 30 Trips 85 show with you! Looks like a killer 2nd set, and there is a nice looking Miller SBD on Archive.

Of course, things at Cornell will resume once I can sit down for a nice focused (read drink in hand) listen :)

Shadowboxing the apocalypse...

Peace

Great Vibes Here..

and the occasional story. Nice.

I will try to fit in 5/8 today.. I wanted to take advantage of downtime coinciding with Morel Mushroom season this year too. Perhaps I will load up a device and head out / try to undo my so/so luck at finding these tasty critters.

Big fan of Summer (and fall) '85. Yes.. the tapes can sound just a tad thin, but at least for the most part Healy was not pumping a bunch of audience noise into the boards. I am biased.. but I could really did a twofer 6/30 and 7/1/85. And that marked the end of the GD at Merriweather Post Pavilion. There were tents tucked away in just about every semi-secluded spot in town. What a scene (cool for the most part) but a scene that was sure to clash with suburban life and the city council.

Glad you could join Otis

I only just started because I first went out to retrieve the trash can and recycle bin, which then meant I also had to let my dog walk around the street sniffing stuff and peeing on other people’s mailboxes.

Yes, I want to be in the right frame of mind for Cornell.

Good luck shroom hunting Jim. Wonder if I could train my dog to sniff out morels? He would probably just eat them.

Jumping ship....

....only at Deal at Cornell, so i to, will pause and resume tonight. '85 it is. At work, so relisten it is. Found a nice matrix
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1985/06/24/alabama-getaway?source=95…

Take A Step Back..

Listened to Cornell Set 1, didn’t have that back in the day, it’s good, nothing mind blowing (in my current state of mind) but good.

I’ll save set 2 for later and hop on the 6/24/85 Riverbend train.

Definitely a favorite tape growing up. Love me some Cryptical, was just getting into the Dead in ’85 and was stoked to get Cryptical ’85 on tape. Would play this show and the next night 6/25 from Blossom with Day Tripper all the time! Heavy Rotation, takes me back…

Went to Riverbend the next year but alas, no Cryptical.

Hot Dog, gonna jam some epic Dead followed by Shakedown Stream with Pre-Show Bobby Weir & Playing In The Band show opener.

Happy Friday!

Be well

That hit the spot

Now palate cleansing with CCR 7-4-71, Closing of Fillmore West, KSAN FM, apparently pre-FM.

Then I’m hitting Cornell Set 1, then going outside to cover my plants from freezing tonight, then Cornell Set 2, then Shakedown Stream.
I like it when good plans come together.

Cornell anniversary

6 to 10 inches of snow that night back on 5/8/77 and it is suppose to snow there tonight!!! Thanks for remembering and celebrating with us nature!!!

If you get confused just....

Vault 3, enjoyed more than I thought. Listening in the background whilst working, so might check back in the tonight with fresh beer to be delivered today, on the big boy system. and what’s that you say?....Summer 85....don’t have to twist this arm! That’ll be this afternoons working fluid...nice mix, some killer spring 90, then some killer 71, then some killer 85! Yeah baby!
I’ll prolly have to skip the Cornell which I don’t mind because I want to try and check out 7/2/89. Haven’t seen that one yet and would be some Good Friday prime time enjoyment!
I can just access that via YouTube no? Anyone know what time that starts without looking it up? Thanks

RE: OROBOROUS

Pre-Show / Party begins 8pm EST / 5pm PST

Streamshake?

Thanks!
Did this start yet? There was a clock countdown to 6:30 est but nothings happening...guessing this is just open time, kind of like FTW? ....or am I just geezing out here?
I’ve never checked this out yet, does the pre-game start at 8 or the actual show?

ShakeStream

Yep.. they just gave out the secret code.

Edit: Geeze.. I suspect you missed the new secret handshake too.

________________________________________

I'm actually looking forward to this. It's one of the few from this era I am not super familiar with.. plus, it's got a PITB Opener and Serendipitously.. a reportedly good To Lay Me Down.

Shakedown Stream

It on the GD YouTube channel.

Pre-show is live, with Bob as special guest.
Show at 8:30e/5:30p

Shake-N-Stream

It's 8:30 right now, The Grateful Goddamned DeadDammit.

1989 Dead

Bob likes summer ‘89 Dead too!

I donated $20....

....seemed like the right thing to do.
Nothing wrong with a Playin' opener! Ever!!
Just learned that Spotify teamed up with the GOGD and Dead & Co and will match every Covid donation $ for $, up to a million $'s. That's cool.

Kind Soul

You have a kind soul, VGuy. The world is in need.

5/8/77

Hi!

I won't go through this show, it needs no commentary.

I will add this, my older sister who left for college in 1985, left behind two tapes in our Mom's blue Civic hatchback, Shakedown Street and 12/31/83. I grabbed those cassettes and never looked back. Back in the 1980s I had no idea that the live recorded shows could ever sound this good. In May of 2017 all those years of bad cassette recordings seemed to maybe make sense.

I never had those second or third generation tapes.

Be well folks.

Best shows, way too many!

On to Dave's 34, just arrived today.

Ted Dape

I love those old stories of analog

7/2/89

Holy Quacamole Batman! How did I never hear/see this one before?
It’s a virtual Jerry fest and interesting set list in general. Only quibble I can think of was after He’s Gone, why the Hell did Bob bail on what first sounded like Smokestack, then Jerry mosdef was playing Spoonful? You could see the whole band waiting on Bob and then things seem to fizzle, so Jerry breaks out Eyes, but you could tell something was up? Maybe Bobs Barrett’s were too tight, lol. Yeah, what was up with that? Can’t believe the band, no, the crew let him get away with that weirdness? Started watching 7/4 right after and that shit was gone...
Speaking of 7/4, as good as 7/2 was, you could tell immediately that 7/4 was gonna give it a run for its money if not top it, and imho 7/4 does best it. Funny I don’t recall much from this show. Member it was definetly a great show, but didn’t think I’d be going on about it 31 years later. Hearing shows many years later, especially ones for the first time, and comparing with my memories, increasingly blows my mind. Some I thought were meh turn out to be good, and some I thought were fantastic, turn out to be ok etc...so much fun!
Sorry, a little off topic but really enjoyed this show last night. Oh, and why the hell isnt this released? Hopefully just saving it? It’s already been produced enough to distribute to theaters for MUATM, so why not put it out?
Also, why is Dave so hot on summer, but not fall 89? Summer was awesome, but fall was even better, and of course spring 90 was the peak.

July '89

7/2/89 = Fun Shakedown Stream!

When it became the pick for Meet-Up At The Movies in 2016 this show began to peak my interest, but I missed it in the theaters. Prior to that the show was off my radar, as no SBD circulated. But with the PITB > Crazy Fingers Set 1 & FOTD Set 2 openers, I put it on my list of too get, and eventually Miller hooked it up in May 2017.

I agree an official release seems doable... maybe a freebie download of the video mix for all us obsessed and oh so loyal fans?!?

After listening to Bob & Dave talk about July '89 again last night, it got me curious. I can see with Bobby requesting July '89 specifically, that alone would totally place those shows on Dave's radar.. and we've reaped some of the benefits:
7/02/89 - MUATM 2016 & Shakedown Stream Last Night
7/04/89 - Truckin' Up To Buffalo 2005
7/07/89 - Crimson White & Indigo 2010
7/09/89 - Giants Stadium Box 2019
7/10/89 - Giants Stadium Box 2019
7/12/89 - RFK Stadium Box 2017
7/13/89 - RFK Stadium Box 2017
7/15/89 - Truckin' released on The Music Never Stopped Movie Soundtrack 2011
7/17/89 - Downhill from Here 1997 (majority)
7/18/89 - MUATM 2012
7/19/89 - MUATM 2015 & Downhill from Here 1997 (3 songs)

I decided today I'd listen to 7/15/89 and check it out a bit more.. It's pretty fun, not sure it'll get the release nod anytime soon.. but maybe we'll get a video of it. Nice Bird Song, and Truckin' is worth the ride.

Well how's the snow you east coasters? We're supposed to hit 85 today in Portland.. seems a bit early for that.

Be Well Friends!

Re:GOGD

Berry interesting...didn’t know (more likely forgot) about 7/18&19 being MUATM/released? Again, if they already incurred the production costs to make these some what releasable, why not release em? I know they haven’t done well on the video stuff which I believe is why they mostly stopped, but if you already have usable product, why not just do a pre-order where you know just how many units to run?

RE: OROBOROUS

Based on your response, I say let's go for it. Cool Dave Lemieux?

Like most things, I imagine money is the issue. Quantity = Price breaks on production costs / if Quantity doesn't sell.. yada yada. These kind folk here at Dead.net been testing those waters for some time now, the formula seems pretty set lately. DVD is dead, heads tend to want to have physical copies so they can play, rip, look at, whatever... not sure what the next model is in that regard.

But for the record, I can make DVDs, CDs and artwork, so if you all over here at Dead.net need any help, just lmk and I'd be happy to assist.

That all being said, I've moved over to 7/18/89 Alpine night two, and this Set 1 is well worth a revisit for any and all needing a musical suggestion.

Alpine '89 might make a good box release DVD & CD, all 3 nights in their entirety. Might be too well known due to Downhill from Here & MUATM..

But maybe we'll get 7/18 & 7/19 Shakedown Streams.. I'm calling it, we'll either get one or both.

Bets?

If it happens I want a burrito...

Is there a pick of the day today??....

....if not, may i recommend 2.11.89 Great Western Forum in the City Of Angels?
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1989/02/11?source=102940
If nothing else, check out the second set. I attended this one, and the second set was one of the best I can recall (which is saying a lot if you get my meaning). Airto Moreira, Flora Purim and Diana Moreira sat in during drumz and Eyes (out of Space mind you). I nice I will Take You home into drumz as well. I was pretty pie-eyed on acid and ecstasy at this one and drumz took me out of the roof of the arena and back again. Messed me up so much i sat for the rest of the show, getting all introspective and such. Felt tinges of a bad trip coming on. Thought the band sounded bad, etc. Only stood up for Black Peter, then proceeded to sit for the rest. Yelled that Box Of Rain was a shitty encore. My buddies sensed things were amiss, and proceeded to try and cheer me up at the hotel room afterwards. I was a mess. I definitely had too much too fast. No hallucinogens for me the next night, or for awhile after to be honest.
When I listened to a tape of it later, I realized they sounded great and it was all in my head. Don't mix drugs kids.

Alpine 89

GOGD, good point, saturation etc, but you have to think SOMEDAY? Alpine 89 will get the full treatment as it seems like that run gets as much lip service here as any of the top “not if, but when” runs that folks continually mention here.
Or maybe I’m just biased?....

RE: Today's Pick & More '89

VGUY: I don't think there was a pick today, peeps were still trying to catch up on Cornell, Riverbend '85 & Shakedown Stream .. so much Dead so little time.

I jumped on the July '89 train after Shakedown Stream got me thinking. On Set 2 of 7/18/89 if you wanna give a listen. Decent show for sure, Set 1 seemed nice and strong, mid set 2 as we speack. Me and OROBOROUS were talking about the likely hood of Alpine '89 getting released someday...

OROBOROUS You are correct sir, those shows sure have a lot of love supporting them and July '89 seems to be on both Dave & Bob's radars... so I guess we'll see. For the quick fix, I think our best bet is the upcoming Shakedown Streams, I'm thinking we might see 7/18 or 7/19 possibly both. FWIW this 7/18 Miller SBD is dope.

I'd love to know more about what sells and what hasn't worked. For instance this year, I had good copies of the Giants Box set shows, but since it was multi-track & a DVD plus cool liner notes, they got me and I was in. Same with June '76. And Jai-Lai '74, again I've had good boards of those forever it seems, but getting the official release, I was in... not to mention already had the sub. So.. yeah, from what I can tell... if they build it, we will come.

VGUY - Tripping too hard.. been there. I'll make note of 2/11/89 and try and see what you was missing...

Time for some delayed 4:20 as Eyes heads into drums. 7/18/89 is nice especially as I can picture wonderful ole Alpine Valley and all those happy people boogieing down.

7/18/89

China Doll out of Space after 4:20, Do it!

Nice Mr. Fantasy too so far.. wide open Alpine feel, or maybe It’s cause the sun is shining & the breeze is blowing at same time.. or maybe it’s both..

Worth a re-listen for sure

It’s been awhile but 7/18/89 has some good jams!

The Set 2 Eyes> D> S> China Doll> Fantasy> Jude> Throwing> SSDD, Quinn just now sounded sublime.

Almost identical song order as 7/2/89 but different pace, tempo, feel makes it completely different. And sounded esp good right now.

Dug it, now I really hope they stream this show!

Have a good one everybody it’s OMSN!

Happy Mother's Day to the Mamas out there!

I hope all are well on this Sunday, and I hope every mom is happy, wherever she may be :)

Here is a little listening for us on this great day - Kid tested, mother approved!

Set II of 5/10/80 - maybe one of the greatest pre-drums second sets of all time...

https://archive.org/details/gd1980-05-10.set2.sbd.miller.91938.sbeok.fl…

Set II - 5/10/80 Hartford

China Cat>
Rider
Stranger>
Comes a Time>
Estimated >
He's Gone >
UJB >
Drums >
Space >
NFA >
Sugar

E: Alabama >
OMSN

Peace

Otis

That is quite a list!

@ Oroborus

Yeah, it is great! The band is hot, and I love the whole thing, but check out the jam from He's Gone to UJB... super cool.

I hope you and yours are well!

Peace

Today's Pick

Looks like we need a pick for today and I saw Bob T mention 5/11/77 at the St. Paul Civic Center. Sounds like a winner to me.

Week 9 in quarantine for us here in MN.

Be well folks.

5/11/77

May of 77... no brainer.

I have to say, I'm a bit surprised that we haven't done more 77... may I suggest 12/29/77, aka Dick's Pick #10 for Tuesday?

Peace

12/29/77

I am in on that for tomorrow, thanks Otis.

Yes, 5/11/77 is a stellar Spring 77 show. The Jack Straw and Peggy O kind of melt your face. Love that Sugaree to end the first set. Scarlet Fire, and what a finish! Throw in a Brokedown Palace encore. I love this show.

Fry, Bueller?

12.29.77 sounds just fine....

....if I recall, that's the show where Jerry forgot an entire verse of China Doll. Could be wrong. The down side of so many awesome releases is that it gets hard to recall correctly at times. I think I'm right though.
Busy day at work. Had time to check out 5.11.86 though. Miracle -> US Blues to open the second set caught my ear. Cool banter by the Boyz that gig. Passed 5.11.77 by today. Catch it later.

12-29 China Cat Breakout

Weir was dropping China Cat teases after the hiatus all over until the breakout including 10-3-76 and Winterland 6-8-77 during NFA (just rediscovered that one the other day). You could tell he really wanted to bring that one back.

12/29/77

Yep, sounds good! Dang, I've had this ever since it first came out (98) but I've barely even listened to it. I guess back then I was obsessed with pre-hiatus and this one fell through the cracks. Better late than never!
I just listened to the Bonus material from 12/30- wow! The Estimated jam really catches fire, then fine Jerry vocals on Eyes, then a sweet quiet jam into St. Stephen. The crowd goes wild at the first St. Stephen notes. Powerfully jammed Stephen and Sugar Mag to close- whew- a great sequence. Latvala never let us down!

12.29.77

Had the meat of the second set on tape courtesy of David Gans and the Grateful Dead Hour since circa 1990?? then in something like 91 or 92 I hit dreaded record on my portable player and handn't removed the tabs on the cassette. So I had this two second break in the tape where you could audibly hear the word (think slow motion) F uh uh chk chk chk, then back to the music. It wasn't until the Dicks Picks came out that I had it complete again. Whew,..

Always a personal favorite. The transition in China Rider is both sublime and unique. Super smooth and fluid.

Anyway.. my little personal story about that release. How many people out there used to record The Grateful Dead Hour back in the day because.. well because it was almost always better than the tapes I had of those shows at the time. It was almost like an early version of the Internet Archive for lots of us. David Gans for Pres? ha..

12/29/77

I wrote a story about being at that show that is in the comments section on 12/29/77. I’m lucky to listen to every other suggested show in this forum. Will definitely listen today even if a day late. It’s on my IPod so I can listen at home. Shows not on my IPod I tune in by iPhone off of a cell tower 35 miles away that I have to get up to a ridge top a couple miles from home. The 50th anniversary of my second Dead show is Friday . Was at the early show. If no one has picked for Friday , 5/15/70 would be great. NRPS was there the same night.

Re: 5.15.70

Good idea Strider.

For what it's worth, I took the time to compile the best available audio from the New Riders sets and combined it with the Fully Normanized version, arranging the songs in the correct order, etc. I forget if there was (were) missing song(s) on the released version, I think yes.. if so they are included. It's as good a quality, full show experience as you are going to get 50 years into the future. It's monster long, meaning big.. and of course full of big fun.

I think Ziffle who posts here sporadically was there also and spoke quite highly of the whole experience. These are the type of shows I am most envious of and if I could set the dials to the wayback machine, one by one I would hit them all.

Anyway regarding the full show experience, you know where to reach me.. 7 CDs worth of music in one night.. I believe the sun was already up when the noise inside finally subsided and the people began pouring out into the sidewalks of New York having the difficult task of making sense of what in the hell just happened and what became of their minds (sounds of jaws scraping up sidewalk debris as they walked to the subway to go home).

Travis Bean / Wolf Guitar / Gibson SG 1970 1977

Wolf makes a reappearance at the New Years run. Jerry played a Travis Bean earlier in the year. (77) Only saw him play the Bean once , one time in Eugene, Oregon March 1976 with his own band.
May 15, 1970 was far different from my first GD show in the dead of winter. Springtime in NYC is a rush of a different feeling . NRPS plus acoustic Dead, throw in Workingmans Dead release and one small detail , I was fucking 16 years old! Main difference at my first Dead show, I pretty much stayed in my seat, second Dead show besides acoustic set I was up dancing at my seat during NRPS set and the electric set as much as possible.
A shame more of the acoustic sets of the 70 odd mas o menos from 1970 , 1980 were not taped or were lost.
When I think of the Fillmore East and later Winterland I hold golden memories in my heart.

5/15/70, top 5

5/15/70/ is on my top 5 list of Dead shows that I would attend if I could go back in time. Along with, 5/2/70, 2/27/69, , 3/1/69, and 6/11/69.

Welcome to Thursday Night at Winterland

Gonna try and get everything just exactly perfect here...

Haven’t heard this one in awhile.. and so far so good, Jack Straw is def a stand out in this here first set. Nice Pick!

JIMINMD - The Good Ole GD Hour.. was definitely my first reliable source for good quality tapes. I still have a bunch of the tapes I made in the garage… memories. David Gans is yet another colorful and beloved character in the rogues gallery of GD collecting. A true pioneer that one..

STRIDER 88 - Wow.. What a time to be 23!! Great story, I can kinda picture it, it must’ve been great to be in the balcony at Winterland and just be able to scope out the scene and see friends. Fillmore East & Winterland the two most Hallowed of halls… keep the stories coming!

OTIS - Enjoyed 5/10/80 Set 2, smoking China > Rider!

BILLY THE KID - 6/11/69 what if it’s no good and you time traveled back to catch a bunk show? Unless of course you know something we don’t.. like where the tapes are?

Looking forward to Friday’s trip back to 5/15/70! That’s gonna be good, it’s been awhile.

You all ever think this is all a dream we dreamed?