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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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June 28, 2020 - 5:16pm

#6551

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

6/28/85

So after basically staying up for 2 days at SPAC, we finally pack it up and hit the road the next day. I believe it was a rainy, gloomy day most of the day. But that didn’t stop our idiot patrol from basically racIng at high speed through the fine but conservative state of Pennsytuckey, where they were one of the last to let go of the 55 mph laws, and back then there usually wasn’t much tolerance. So 2 cars of totally raging nutknicks, with probably enough cargo to keep us detained for decades, thought it’d be a good idea to race at speeds up to 90!, Idiots!.....yes, one car had a radar detector, but in those days smart cops would wait for some nut traveling high speed and click it on when they had ya dead nuts.
Luckily, all was well and it was one more “miracle” as we earnestly pursued our quest for “too much of everything is just enough”, aaaa, never considered back then maybe Bob was being sarcastic? Lol
So we roll on into Chocolate town late and all beat up. I’m guessing we grabbed some kind of drive through, but not sure and as we were hardcore vegetarian then, perhaps we thought we’d grab something there? It’s all such a blur, I do recall the lot we were in had no or little Shakedown action going on. That still wasn’t in full flight anyway, and don’t recall much there, so maybe we drank our supper? I know I scored some Carlsberg Elephant beer, and believe I may have finished it, though that is a tall order even under good conditions so perhaps not. I’m sure I put in dent in it at least! So, that and the last of one z of veggies, though the tricky part was it was mostly just powder and scraps and so no normal produce to properly gage etc, which would turn out to be a tactical error...
So it’s late, we’re tired, but tweaked, perhaps no dinner, and of course it’s horrible out. Dark, rainy, and cold is usually not how you want to do your Dead. Eventually we get in perfect time, slip right in front of the SB and try to make the best of the situation. Well I had a shirt, a black baseball jacket, and the electric Buffalo Hyde, but even still it was damp and cold at first. Eventually, when things started to take hold and we started boogieing, we began to warm up a bit.
Meanwhile, the set list is awesome, but the conditions, which necessitated all the stage and PA speakers being covered in plastic (there was no stage lid) thereby severely effecting the audio. It’s was such a weird show that way, loved the little “stadium” and the nice audiophile stereo set up, with surrounds, great set list, mostly good playing, yes JGs vocals are a little ruff in the first set, but you have to cut some slack as it was terrible, I mean depending on the wind/rain they were getting rained on playing electrical instruments! Weird indeed, but like so many times in adverse conditions our heroes seemed to rise to the challenge. Thus the playing was perhaps more relaxed, steady and together and not forced like the previous night. Really, besides JGs vocal issues in the first, its a top notch show!
The second set really starts to take it higher with stellar versions of Music Never Stopped, Terrapin, Miracle and one of the best Dews I’ve ever seen! I think I saw about 14 or 15 Dews and when I think about Dews I’ve seen, this one is the one I always think of first! Rocking Stones/NFA with a spirited Day Job. I liked Day Job, but by now it was getting a tad old, and was a disappointment for this show considering how high it was at that point. A She Belongs or Baby Blue would of been a perfect Cherry on top, but perhaps that’s being greedy?
Now since the weather was such a factor, we must discuss that and how it influenced this show. The second set starts out with their “signing in the rain” as Bob says, and it’s a good’n! Next they slowly slid into an unusual sounding Tom Thumbs which I had never heard yet, and wasn’t even sure at first what it was, but hey, it was Phil so that’s all I needed to know! Good but perhaps truncated Estimated, followed by an awesome Terrapin. So as the set started to progress, so did the weather until (I think?) around Estimated it really started to clear up and they started pulling the plastic tarps down. It was almost like you could immediately hear it get better after each one was removed. Eventually by about Terrapin, they tarps we’re gone, the moon and stars were out, and Healy started increasing the volume and tweaking the mix. I remember we were goading him to turn it up, and man eventually he sure did!
As the night wore on it began to warm up a bit too. But as you’ve heard this scenario, or been there yourself, many times I didn’t feel quite high enough so what the hell, one more time with the powder veggie crumbles just before drums......hee-hee....you know, “I’m not feeling it?” and then...Dooah!
So the problem with those baseball jackets is they don’t really breath and the electric Buffalo Hyde was thick plastic. We didn’t have all the nice technical outer gear we have now, or at least WE didn’t. I could barely afford the free plastic one from the old mans work.
Well a perfect storm mounted; little or no food, Elephants, veggies etc, no sleep, excess everything and underlying exhaustion, with me starting to overheat due to the above and dancing with that plastic shell on. Things were going unbelievable well, and partly influenced by the very recent passing of my Grandfather, during Dew, things peaked musically, the sound, the night, the stars, emotionally etc etc until I had one of the most powerful musical/emotional/psychedelic peak experiences of my life. Perhaps my all time GD moment, it was that powerful. But what goes up must come down and just like that the radiator blew and that last handful of shroom dust fully kicked in and somewhere in Throwing Stones, right during ashes, ashes all fall down, well.....I say i didn’t really fall down, it was more like an immediate realization that if I don’t sit down rapidly, I’m going down! LOL, so one way or another, depending on who you believe, I end up down in the soft, cool mud until near the end of the song, but I swear just as I tried to get up I knew it wasn’t going to happen, so right on que again I go back down. My friends to this day always bring up my perfectly coreographed “Dance moves” above all else that happened on this tour..35 years later and it’s still “ashes, ashes, Pedro falls down” !
That would of all been well and good except things were very strange and weren’t wearing off, and I was barely functioning. I never would of found the car etc If not for my homies. Honestly all I remember is them pulling into a Wendy’s or something, but I just sat in the car with my face literally stuck to the window and crackled! Zzzzttttt. I really thought I had finally fried some essential circuits and thought this time I really did it. At some point I snapped out enough to find some kids in another car staring at me with a look of concern if not fear. Luckily, the boys finished up and came out and got us outta there. Somewhere near the state line we finally grabbed a motel as we all had had more than enough rain and adversity. Plus the next day was off and the drive short. I remember they propped me up in bed and I just sat and crackled and worried. Eventually I slept and though I felt better the next day, I didn’t feel normal and don’t recall much except when we got to Merriweather and found a good spot just over the creek, right next to the path, in some trees, on the way to the big parking lots to the right of the venue. But now it was nice and I was feeling more normal so not so freaked out. I also remember going to a nearby sorta plaza with an upscale liquor store where I scored my first sixer of EKU 28 ever which was awesome!
So now we’ve moved beyond the insanity of TOGA, the adversity and majesty of Hershey, and ready for perhaps the best overall show of the tour on 6/30/85....

EDIT: Otis, congrats on the stereo. All that matters is if your happy with it. After all the specs and hyperbole etc, no matter how big, small, expensive etc, in the end, that’s all that counts!
June 28, 2020 - 4:14pm

#6552

Thats_Otis

Joined:
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@ Bob T and Pick for Monday

Nice rec for the TDIGDH 6/28/76 show! I'd never heard that one before, and it is pretty sweet. The "Happiness is Drumming" is certainly a highlight!

I have been out of the loop for a bit - trying to deal with some personal stuff on my end, and I just kind of lost track of things around these parts. I hope to be able to participate more going forward.

To that end, how about a pick for tomorrow, Monday 6/29? I am thinking Dave's 31 - 12/3/79 Uptown. I feel like this pick got a short shrift on the DaP page, but I remember being very happy with it, though I haven't given it a proper listen since it first came out. What do you all think?

One positive thing that I have accomplished since I've been away has been the set up of my first component stereo system. I don't know if it compares to all of your "big boy" systems, but it certainly feels BIG in my little row home! Looking forward to playing it LOUD tomorrow when the wife goes to work.

Peace
June 28, 2020 - 11:41am

#6553

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Voodoo senile, slight return. 6/27/85, and why 85 Dead is like

Bode Miller...

First, GOGD, I did not mean to single you out, over generalizations, which become stereotypes, which become truth etc, really bum me out. So it was more of a trigger to that, not you personally. I know you were just repeating this line.
Actually, as I’ve dug in deeper, there are probably a significant number of shows where he often doesn’t sound so good, but to over generalize that “his voice was shot”, as in never more, to me, imho, that completely devalues and discounts all the amazing, great sounding stuff he was still able to do. 87,88,89,90,91anyone? Micro view versus macro perhaps?

SECOND: I must humbly recant my tale of dancin in the rain. As we were diligently experiencing TOGA last night. Too things became apparent. First, perhaps JG was a tad “caffeinated” at the start of both sets. Listening close on a real system, (not the big boy, but the living room system which ain’t no slouch!), he seems a tad to fast and/or their not fully entrained. One could argue not fully so until Women Are?...so probably something to do with him totally skipping the Key Rain Storm, and Jailhouse versus, of Bertha, lol.
Thus, while I wasn’t deceitful, I was not accurate. Sure enough, when Holmes and Watson ripped a spleef and fired up Bertha from SPAC 6/24/84, and bingo, ding, ding, ding, ding! Right venue, wrong year! 😂 Ooops, my apologies to the dear reader...but hey, it’s a fun interesting new tid bit, and it did rain, I think, lol.
While doing this research I was listening just on the iPad and interestingly he doesn’t sound as bad? Also, I’ve been going with the HS matrixes, especially shows where I want to hear those crowd big moments. Generally they’ve been pretty good, but researching, I used a CM transfer and man, definitely a big difference. Perhaps number one being the speed/time of the Miller seemed better and more natural?
Subjective I know, just that it’s interesting how every variable can effect perceptions.
6/27/85: so this beast is still as much of a rocket sled ride as I’ve thought, but it’s perhaps a tad more unpolished then I would of said in the past. But that’s being picky, and you know I prefer danger dead to safe, so as at this moment, Hell in a bucket is scorching, I stick by this show for that, the cool set list, and the fact that eventually, say around Women Are on out, that part of the show stands with its lofty summer 85 neighbors. Probably have to give 6/24& perhaps 6/25? a slight advantage overall, but man I haven’t been to many shows that had the vibe, fun, and overall madness of this puppy.

So why is 85 Dead like Bode Miller? He often was criticized for his erratic style, or lack thereof, his nonconformity, often disregard for the rules, including parting then basically going 80 MPH down an insane pitch, that was usually hosed down to make it more icy, and thus faster! So just like this era of Dead, sometimes he’d DQ, sometimes he’d slack off, sometimes it was ugly, but when he brought it, that mofo brought it!! and when he was able to be one with the force, it was fucking breathtaking! Scary, but breathtaking. No matter what, if he was racing there was an energy, an excitement, that larger than life vibe......that, to me, is 85 Dead.
FINALLY: Ladies and Germs, May I present the Electric Buffalo Hyde! as christened by my degenerate cohort due to my resemblance of the great beast of the prairies back in the day, and this baby used to be so bright people would ask if there were batteries. But Alas, like youth itself it’s faded dramatically, and is old and bartered. It definitely gave it’s all to R&R. So many Dead shows, festivals, camping, parties, you name it! Also, it will be a part of an unfortunate situation at the next night, where I lost my shit in Hershey! So until then....
June 28, 2020 - 11:14am

#6554

bob t

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only time played anniversary show 6/28/76 Chicago Auditorium

If you are too busy to listen to whole show, listen to Happiness is Drumming from set II, if you have never heard or listened to listen you will be pleasantly surprised!!! There is a Charlie Miller soundboard on Internet Archive!!!! bob t
June 27, 2020 - 4:07pm

#6555

The Good Ole G…

Joined:
December 29, 2015

Good Times Great Oldies

Sounds like the ole SPAC '85 show will get some play today.

Always a fun revisit. Vguy & Keithfan that was you guys?! That's funny.

I guess I always thought this was an indoor show because of the balcony stuff and didn't know about the rain storm.

Tell us more.

And just for the record if I happen to say Jerry's voice is shot, what I mean to say is I love Jerry's voice, even though it's a little shot here. ;)

I agree, it always sounds great to me.

Enjoy party people!
June 27, 2020 - 11:21am

#6556

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Not a drop

We were out on the lawn so actually there were many drops, I mean it was already raining hard, and right when he sang that line, biblical!, but it just added to the madness and was one of my favorite concert/rain moments ever! I believe that’s right when folks crashed security on those balcony ramp ways and turned it into a free for all? Yeah, that was the shit, such energy all around, but that rain just took it to another level. Luckily I had my electric buffalo Hyde on! .....it was a psychedelic neon yellow long rain coat with
BS CORP
WORK SAFELY (from pops work) printed on back, and a Dancin skeleton sticker underneath that I added. Still have it! I should take a pic and post...fond it moving last year.
June 27, 2020 - 10:48am

#6557

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Summer 85, and why I’m not prepared for class

Deadheadbrewer: yeah, I’m with you, I can’t keep up with these rascals! Pant-pant 😉
Haven’t done Riverbend, Nassau or Dane. Prolly give Nassau a spin this WE. Dane I’ve tried to stay away from cause ya gotta believe their going to give us that one someday! Bastards better! and I’d prefer it on virginal ears!
hey, by the way, how you guys coming on that tunnel under the vault?
So I listen to Riverbend 6/24/85 sort regularly so no biggie there except in the sense of comparing shows. Except It’s cool to go in order to see the subtle changes and how things progress. Like 6/25/85, definitely have felt a ascending arc since the first night in Alpine. Funny thing is I don’t think I’ve heard the second set of this one before? Had a tape of the first all along, but I think it was a tad too crisp so didn’t get as much love as the shows around it. Plus I think maybe I harbored some subliminal resentment for the show because of our decision to skip it to go to Toga early like we did in 84, which was awesome. Obviously if it made us skip a show that close to home, but Doooaahhh. So not sure how it’s the shows fault. LOL, but I think somehow I’ve had some weird thing about this show that has kept me away? Sorry, ramblings of a deranged lunatic!
Anywho, finally gave this bad boy a spin yesterday, though had to do it in 2 sessions as life just keeps buttin’ in like a 3 year old when mom and dad are trying to get down! Man what a show. The only really noticeable hiccup I recall was JG at the start of Jimmy, and Bob missed a vocal, really a great set, better than I remember, though I always liked it, just the tape was lesser then the others...
Second set was hot too, though perhaps they lost just a little near the end? Or maybe that was me as it was late, and by that time on a Friday this ole cowboy is usually not feeling much pain! I recall a couple little blemishes, but so what, you name any show, anyone, and I can find stuff wrong. And sorry, but I’m kinda over hearing about how terrible JGs voice is. Yes, sometimes it’s ruff, but sometimes I think the gravelly age worn voice ADDs to the affect of the songs, which is perhaps what he did best. And frankly, I’ll take the gravel voice singing in tune over a lot of that 1970 stuff we’re between the guitars and the vocals something is ALWAYS out of tune. That’s torturous for a musician.
Now I’m not trying to diss anyone’s favorite Dead etc, just stating an opinion that people perhaps overdo it with the voice comments. My favorite is when people say “I can’t listen to anything after 77”....ok, we’ll that’s cool as it’s your choice and all, but I’d say really you just have made up your mind you don’t want to like anything after that, and you probably haven’t heard enough and with the right kind of ears. Seriously, I challenge anyone to pick a “perfect” “best of “ show and if I have time I will find the cracks!
But that’s missing the point which is ITS ALL GOOD! and every era has something positive that the others don’t have. It’s all ways been yin yang folks, there is no such thing as a perfect show, except in our minds eye, which is quite A ok.
Ok, rant over, I’m obviously biased about my beloved 85!
Which brings us back to TOOOOOOOGGGGAAAAA!! Yo Butch, back in your seat, there’s 50 thousand people waiting for you to get back in your seat! Madness, the whole scene there was just surreal fucking madness, but in a good way.
I’m actually going to try and call my old house/band mates at the time as we all went. 2 I think went to blossom, and Pittsburgh. That one too, like WTF basically could of stopped by on the ride home from Merriweather, idiots! Lol, actually, I’m not sure I could have done another show. I may have caused permanent damage at Hershey, and thank god for that day off that I can’t recall much about, and I did take it a tad easier after, but not much. We ate so many veggies on that run that nobody would believe it. But I know what I came with and what was left after so.....looking back, it’s all kinda scary, we’re lucky we never had any real casualties of any sort. Few close calls, but nothing major, phewwww.
So going to call the lads, and fire up Toga tonight as We have to do a Zoom wedding this afternoon. We were supposed to be out at the Promised land for said wedding and a actual vacation, first since Seattle in ?? 2012!
Think Homer Simpson “oohhhh, Ssstttooooopid Covid”
Speaking of living via the net, was that not a fine show on Shakedown last night! Didn’t have the fire like the night before, but a fine well played outing, thanks so much to Dave and Co. for giving us this nice diversion. It’s getting to b3 a regular weekly thing, and gasp, the Mrs has actually been joining me and digging it! .....as long as I give her a good foot massage (usually during drums). She really digs the trippy graphics and colors which is even funnier as she’s never partaken except booze back in da day, it’s like giving a kid castor oil just getting her to have a beer, lol. So yeah, this Friday thing has been like the “ONE” in our music! Right on! and please keep em coming!
Ok, gotta try and call the guys and reminisce before the wedding. Then.....drum rolls please..........TOOooooGa!
June 27, 2020 - 10:20am

#6558

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Not a drop on me...

but there are black clouds building on the horizon here. Looks like a thunderous day on the river is in store for me. Got my waterproof device loaded with 6/27/85, thanks to the gentle steering of the GOGD.
June 27, 2020 - 9:47am

#6559

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

TOGA!

Ran into a rainstorm, indeed!
June 27, 2020 - 9:02am

#6560

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Pick?

GOGD has some momentum with SPAC 85.

Don't hang off the balcony... (which we later found out was VGuy and Keithfan) :D

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

5/8/77

Yes, for sure Vguy!I

Holy shit, not that I forget about it, but, this one for me always deserves a very loud and focused listen.

I know there have become naysayers regarding this release, but man it is really good.

Be well folks.

Its engrained in a heads DNA....

....whether you like it or not.

@ DeadVikes RE: Spring 90 Boxes

I have been keeping an eye out for them, but they are pricey! I would love to see an "All Music Edition" released - I would be all over that, but if I recall, there was mention at release of the original box that there would not be an AMR, nor would the individual shows be released for sale.

Thankfully, I have access to most (all?) of these shows from LMA, and I have a number of them DL'd that sound good.

Now, I think I hear Cornell calling...

Happy Friday, DeadLand

Peace

Being that it’s Friday

I’m going to save my listen of 5-8-77 until late afternoon/evening, when the beer starts flowing.

Oh yeah, Shakedown Stream. Don’t think I’ve ever seen the 7-2-89 video, so need to fit that into the schedule too.

But for now it’s coffee, and what to listen to....?

6-24-85 30 Trips it is.
One of only two official 85 releases.....
More 85 please Dave.
So many good ones from the summer, can’t pick just one, might need a Box.

@ IceCreamKid RE: 6/24/85

I think I'll join you! I started Set I of Cornell, but only made it to "El Paso" before work interfered. I think I will put a pause on 5/8/77 and hop on that 30 Trips 85 show with you! Looks like a killer 2nd set, and there is a nice looking Miller SBD on Archive.

Of course, things at Cornell will resume once I can sit down for a nice focused (read drink in hand) listen :)

Shadowboxing the apocalypse...

Peace

Great Vibes Here..

and the occasional story. Nice.

I will try to fit in 5/8 today.. I wanted to take advantage of downtime coinciding with Morel Mushroom season this year too. Perhaps I will load up a device and head out / try to undo my so/so luck at finding these tasty critters.

Big fan of Summer (and fall) '85. Yes.. the tapes can sound just a tad thin, but at least for the most part Healy was not pumping a bunch of audience noise into the boards. I am biased.. but I could really did a twofer 6/30 and 7/1/85. And that marked the end of the GD at Merriweather Post Pavilion. There were tents tucked away in just about every semi-secluded spot in town. What a scene (cool for the most part) but a scene that was sure to clash with suburban life and the city council.

Glad you could join Otis

I only just started because I first went out to retrieve the trash can and recycle bin, which then meant I also had to let my dog walk around the street sniffing stuff and peeing on other people’s mailboxes.

Yes, I want to be in the right frame of mind for Cornell.

Good luck shroom hunting Jim. Wonder if I could train my dog to sniff out morels? He would probably just eat them.

Jumping ship....

....only at Deal at Cornell, so i to, will pause and resume tonight. '85 it is. At work, so relisten it is. Found a nice matrix
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1985/06/24/alabama-getaway?source=95…

Take A Step Back..

Listened to Cornell Set 1, didn’t have that back in the day, it’s good, nothing mind blowing (in my current state of mind) but good.

I’ll save set 2 for later and hop on the 6/24/85 Riverbend train.

Definitely a favorite tape growing up. Love me some Cryptical, was just getting into the Dead in ’85 and was stoked to get Cryptical ’85 on tape. Would play this show and the next night 6/25 from Blossom with Day Tripper all the time! Heavy Rotation, takes me back…

Went to Riverbend the next year but alas, no Cryptical.

Hot Dog, gonna jam some epic Dead followed by Shakedown Stream with Pre-Show Bobby Weir & Playing In The Band show opener.

Happy Friday!

Be well

That hit the spot

Now palate cleansing with CCR 7-4-71, Closing of Fillmore West, KSAN FM, apparently pre-FM.

Then I’m hitting Cornell Set 1, then going outside to cover my plants from freezing tonight, then Cornell Set 2, then Shakedown Stream.
I like it when good plans come together.

Cornell anniversary

6 to 10 inches of snow that night back on 5/8/77 and it is suppose to snow there tonight!!! Thanks for remembering and celebrating with us nature!!!

If you get confused just....

Vault 3, enjoyed more than I thought. Listening in the background whilst working, so might check back in the tonight with fresh beer to be delivered today, on the big boy system. and what’s that you say?....Summer 85....don’t have to twist this arm! That’ll be this afternoons working fluid...nice mix, some killer spring 90, then some killer 71, then some killer 85! Yeah baby!
I’ll prolly have to skip the Cornell which I don’t mind because I want to try and check out 7/2/89. Haven’t seen that one yet and would be some Good Friday prime time enjoyment!
I can just access that via YouTube no? Anyone know what time that starts without looking it up? Thanks

RE: OROBOROUS

Pre-Show / Party begins 8pm EST / 5pm PST

Streamshake?

Thanks!
Did this start yet? There was a clock countdown to 6:30 est but nothings happening...guessing this is just open time, kind of like FTW? ....or am I just geezing out here?
I’ve never checked this out yet, does the pre-game start at 8 or the actual show?

ShakeStream

Yep.. they just gave out the secret code.

Edit: Geeze.. I suspect you missed the new secret handshake too.

________________________________________

I'm actually looking forward to this. It's one of the few from this era I am not super familiar with.. plus, it's got a PITB Opener and Serendipitously.. a reportedly good To Lay Me Down.

Shakedown Stream

It on the GD YouTube channel.

Pre-show is live, with Bob as special guest.
Show at 8:30e/5:30p

Shake-N-Stream

It's 8:30 right now, The Grateful Goddamned DeadDammit.

1989 Dead

Bob likes summer ‘89 Dead too!

I donated $20....

....seemed like the right thing to do.
Nothing wrong with a Playin' opener! Ever!!
Just learned that Spotify teamed up with the GOGD and Dead & Co and will match every Covid donation $ for $, up to a million $'s. That's cool.

Kind Soul

You have a kind soul, VGuy. The world is in need.

5/8/77

Hi!

I won't go through this show, it needs no commentary.

I will add this, my older sister who left for college in 1985, left behind two tapes in our Mom's blue Civic hatchback, Shakedown Street and 12/31/83. I grabbed those cassettes and never looked back. Back in the 1980s I had no idea that the live recorded shows could ever sound this good. In May of 2017 all those years of bad cassette recordings seemed to maybe make sense.

I never had those second or third generation tapes.

Be well folks.

Best shows, way too many!

On to Dave's 34, just arrived today.

Ted Dape

I love those old stories of analog

7/2/89

Holy Quacamole Batman! How did I never hear/see this one before?
It’s a virtual Jerry fest and interesting set list in general. Only quibble I can think of was after He’s Gone, why the Hell did Bob bail on what first sounded like Smokestack, then Jerry mosdef was playing Spoonful? You could see the whole band waiting on Bob and then things seem to fizzle, so Jerry breaks out Eyes, but you could tell something was up? Maybe Bobs Barrett’s were too tight, lol. Yeah, what was up with that? Can’t believe the band, no, the crew let him get away with that weirdness? Started watching 7/4 right after and that shit was gone...
Speaking of 7/4, as good as 7/2 was, you could tell immediately that 7/4 was gonna give it a run for its money if not top it, and imho 7/4 does best it. Funny I don’t recall much from this show. Member it was definetly a great show, but didn’t think I’d be going on about it 31 years later. Hearing shows many years later, especially ones for the first time, and comparing with my memories, increasingly blows my mind. Some I thought were meh turn out to be good, and some I thought were fantastic, turn out to be ok etc...so much fun!
Sorry, a little off topic but really enjoyed this show last night. Oh, and why the hell isnt this released? Hopefully just saving it? It’s already been produced enough to distribute to theaters for MUATM, so why not put it out?
Also, why is Dave so hot on summer, but not fall 89? Summer was awesome, but fall was even better, and of course spring 90 was the peak.

July '89

7/2/89 = Fun Shakedown Stream!

When it became the pick for Meet-Up At The Movies in 2016 this show began to peak my interest, but I missed it in the theaters. Prior to that the show was off my radar, as no SBD circulated. But with the PITB > Crazy Fingers Set 1 & FOTD Set 2 openers, I put it on my list of too get, and eventually Miller hooked it up in May 2017.

I agree an official release seems doable... maybe a freebie download of the video mix for all us obsessed and oh so loyal fans?!?

After listening to Bob & Dave talk about July '89 again last night, it got me curious. I can see with Bobby requesting July '89 specifically, that alone would totally place those shows on Dave's radar.. and we've reaped some of the benefits:
7/02/89 - MUATM 2016 & Shakedown Stream Last Night
7/04/89 - Truckin' Up To Buffalo 2005
7/07/89 - Crimson White & Indigo 2010
7/09/89 - Giants Stadium Box 2019
7/10/89 - Giants Stadium Box 2019
7/12/89 - RFK Stadium Box 2017
7/13/89 - RFK Stadium Box 2017
7/15/89 - Truckin' released on The Music Never Stopped Movie Soundtrack 2011
7/17/89 - Downhill from Here 1997 (majority)
7/18/89 - MUATM 2012
7/19/89 - MUATM 2015 & Downhill from Here 1997 (3 songs)

I decided today I'd listen to 7/15/89 and check it out a bit more.. It's pretty fun, not sure it'll get the release nod anytime soon.. but maybe we'll get a video of it. Nice Bird Song, and Truckin' is worth the ride.

Well how's the snow you east coasters? We're supposed to hit 85 today in Portland.. seems a bit early for that.

Be Well Friends!

Re:GOGD

Berry interesting...didn’t know (more likely forgot) about 7/18&19 being MUATM/released? Again, if they already incurred the production costs to make these some what releasable, why not release em? I know they haven’t done well on the video stuff which I believe is why they mostly stopped, but if you already have usable product, why not just do a pre-order where you know just how many units to run?

RE: OROBOROUS

Based on your response, I say let's go for it. Cool Dave Lemieux?

Like most things, I imagine money is the issue. Quantity = Price breaks on production costs / if Quantity doesn't sell.. yada yada. These kind folk here at Dead.net been testing those waters for some time now, the formula seems pretty set lately. DVD is dead, heads tend to want to have physical copies so they can play, rip, look at, whatever... not sure what the next model is in that regard.

But for the record, I can make DVDs, CDs and artwork, so if you all over here at Dead.net need any help, just lmk and I'd be happy to assist.

That all being said, I've moved over to 7/18/89 Alpine night two, and this Set 1 is well worth a revisit for any and all needing a musical suggestion.

Alpine '89 might make a good box release DVD & CD, all 3 nights in their entirety. Might be too well known due to Downhill from Here & MUATM..

But maybe we'll get 7/18 & 7/19 Shakedown Streams.. I'm calling it, we'll either get one or both.

Bets?

If it happens I want a burrito...

Is there a pick of the day today??....

....if not, may i recommend 2.11.89 Great Western Forum in the City Of Angels?
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1989/02/11?source=102940
If nothing else, check out the second set. I attended this one, and the second set was one of the best I can recall (which is saying a lot if you get my meaning). Airto Moreira, Flora Purim and Diana Moreira sat in during drumz and Eyes (out of Space mind you). I nice I will Take You home into drumz as well. I was pretty pie-eyed on acid and ecstasy at this one and drumz took me out of the roof of the arena and back again. Messed me up so much i sat for the rest of the show, getting all introspective and such. Felt tinges of a bad trip coming on. Thought the band sounded bad, etc. Only stood up for Black Peter, then proceeded to sit for the rest. Yelled that Box Of Rain was a shitty encore. My buddies sensed things were amiss, and proceeded to try and cheer me up at the hotel room afterwards. I was a mess. I definitely had too much too fast. No hallucinogens for me the next night, or for awhile after to be honest.
When I listened to a tape of it later, I realized they sounded great and it was all in my head. Don't mix drugs kids.

Alpine 89

GOGD, good point, saturation etc, but you have to think SOMEDAY? Alpine 89 will get the full treatment as it seems like that run gets as much lip service here as any of the top “not if, but when” runs that folks continually mention here.
Or maybe I’m just biased?....

RE: Today's Pick & More '89

VGUY: I don't think there was a pick today, peeps were still trying to catch up on Cornell, Riverbend '85 & Shakedown Stream .. so much Dead so little time.

I jumped on the July '89 train after Shakedown Stream got me thinking. On Set 2 of 7/18/89 if you wanna give a listen. Decent show for sure, Set 1 seemed nice and strong, mid set 2 as we speack. Me and OROBOROUS were talking about the likely hood of Alpine '89 getting released someday...

OROBOROUS You are correct sir, those shows sure have a lot of love supporting them and July '89 seems to be on both Dave & Bob's radars... so I guess we'll see. For the quick fix, I think our best bet is the upcoming Shakedown Streams, I'm thinking we might see 7/18 or 7/19 possibly both. FWIW this 7/18 Miller SBD is dope.

I'd love to know more about what sells and what hasn't worked. For instance this year, I had good copies of the Giants Box set shows, but since it was multi-track & a DVD plus cool liner notes, they got me and I was in. Same with June '76. And Jai-Lai '74, again I've had good boards of those forever it seems, but getting the official release, I was in... not to mention already had the sub. So.. yeah, from what I can tell... if they build it, we will come.

VGUY - Tripping too hard.. been there. I'll make note of 2/11/89 and try and see what you was missing...

Time for some delayed 4:20 as Eyes heads into drums. 7/18/89 is nice especially as I can picture wonderful ole Alpine Valley and all those happy people boogieing down.

7/18/89

China Doll out of Space after 4:20, Do it!

Nice Mr. Fantasy too so far.. wide open Alpine feel, or maybe It’s cause the sun is shining & the breeze is blowing at same time.. or maybe it’s both..

Worth a re-listen for sure

It’s been awhile but 7/18/89 has some good jams!

The Set 2 Eyes> D> S> China Doll> Fantasy> Jude> Throwing> SSDD, Quinn just now sounded sublime.

Almost identical song order as 7/2/89 but different pace, tempo, feel makes it completely different. And sounded esp good right now.

Dug it, now I really hope they stream this show!

Have a good one everybody it’s OMSN!

Happy Mother's Day to the Mamas out there!

I hope all are well on this Sunday, and I hope every mom is happy, wherever she may be :)

Here is a little listening for us on this great day - Kid tested, mother approved!

Set II of 5/10/80 - maybe one of the greatest pre-drums second sets of all time...

https://archive.org/details/gd1980-05-10.set2.sbd.miller.91938.sbeok.fl…

Set II - 5/10/80 Hartford

China Cat>
Rider
Stranger>
Comes a Time>
Estimated >
He's Gone >
UJB >
Drums >
Space >
NFA >
Sugar

E: Alabama >
OMSN

Peace

Otis

That is quite a list!

@ Oroborus

Yeah, it is great! The band is hot, and I love the whole thing, but check out the jam from He's Gone to UJB... super cool.

I hope you and yours are well!

Peace

Today's Pick

Looks like we need a pick for today and I saw Bob T mention 5/11/77 at the St. Paul Civic Center. Sounds like a winner to me.

Week 9 in quarantine for us here in MN.

Be well folks.

5/11/77

May of 77... no brainer.

I have to say, I'm a bit surprised that we haven't done more 77... may I suggest 12/29/77, aka Dick's Pick #10 for Tuesday?

Peace

12/29/77

I am in on that for tomorrow, thanks Otis.

Yes, 5/11/77 is a stellar Spring 77 show. The Jack Straw and Peggy O kind of melt your face. Love that Sugaree to end the first set. Scarlet Fire, and what a finish! Throw in a Brokedown Palace encore. I love this show.

Fry, Bueller?

12.29.77 sounds just fine....

....if I recall, that's the show where Jerry forgot an entire verse of China Doll. Could be wrong. The down side of so many awesome releases is that it gets hard to recall correctly at times. I think I'm right though.
Busy day at work. Had time to check out 5.11.86 though. Miracle -> US Blues to open the second set caught my ear. Cool banter by the Boyz that gig. Passed 5.11.77 by today. Catch it later.

12-29 China Cat Breakout

Weir was dropping China Cat teases after the hiatus all over until the breakout including 10-3-76 and Winterland 6-8-77 during NFA (just rediscovered that one the other day). You could tell he really wanted to bring that one back.

12/29/77

Yep, sounds good! Dang, I've had this ever since it first came out (98) but I've barely even listened to it. I guess back then I was obsessed with pre-hiatus and this one fell through the cracks. Better late than never!
I just listened to the Bonus material from 12/30- wow! The Estimated jam really catches fire, then fine Jerry vocals on Eyes, then a sweet quiet jam into St. Stephen. The crowd goes wild at the first St. Stephen notes. Powerfully jammed Stephen and Sugar Mag to close- whew- a great sequence. Latvala never let us down!

12.29.77

Had the meat of the second set on tape courtesy of David Gans and the Grateful Dead Hour since circa 1990?? then in something like 91 or 92 I hit dreaded record on my portable player and handn't removed the tabs on the cassette. So I had this two second break in the tape where you could audibly hear the word (think slow motion) F uh uh chk chk chk, then back to the music. It wasn't until the Dicks Picks came out that I had it complete again. Whew,..

Always a personal favorite. The transition in China Rider is both sublime and unique. Super smooth and fluid.

Anyway.. my little personal story about that release. How many people out there used to record The Grateful Dead Hour back in the day because.. well because it was almost always better than the tapes I had of those shows at the time. It was almost like an early version of the Internet Archive for lots of us. David Gans for Pres? ha..

12/29/77

I wrote a story about being at that show that is in the comments section on 12/29/77. I’m lucky to listen to every other suggested show in this forum. Will definitely listen today even if a day late. It’s on my IPod so I can listen at home. Shows not on my IPod I tune in by iPhone off of a cell tower 35 miles away that I have to get up to a ridge top a couple miles from home. The 50th anniversary of my second Dead show is Friday . Was at the early show. If no one has picked for Friday , 5/15/70 would be great. NRPS was there the same night.

Re: 5.15.70

Good idea Strider.

For what it's worth, I took the time to compile the best available audio from the New Riders sets and combined it with the Fully Normanized version, arranging the songs in the correct order, etc. I forget if there was (were) missing song(s) on the released version, I think yes.. if so they are included. It's as good a quality, full show experience as you are going to get 50 years into the future. It's monster long, meaning big.. and of course full of big fun.

I think Ziffle who posts here sporadically was there also and spoke quite highly of the whole experience. These are the type of shows I am most envious of and if I could set the dials to the wayback machine, one by one I would hit them all.

Anyway regarding the full show experience, you know where to reach me.. 7 CDs worth of music in one night.. I believe the sun was already up when the noise inside finally subsided and the people began pouring out into the sidewalks of New York having the difficult task of making sense of what in the hell just happened and what became of their minds (sounds of jaws scraping up sidewalk debris as they walked to the subway to go home).

Travis Bean / Wolf Guitar / Gibson SG 1970 1977

Wolf makes a reappearance at the New Years run. Jerry played a Travis Bean earlier in the year. (77) Only saw him play the Bean once , one time in Eugene, Oregon March 1976 with his own band.
May 15, 1970 was far different from my first GD show in the dead of winter. Springtime in NYC is a rush of a different feeling . NRPS plus acoustic Dead, throw in Workingmans Dead release and one small detail , I was fucking 16 years old! Main difference at my first Dead show, I pretty much stayed in my seat, second Dead show besides acoustic set I was up dancing at my seat during NRPS set and the electric set as much as possible.
A shame more of the acoustic sets of the 70 odd mas o menos from 1970 , 1980 were not taped or were lost.
When I think of the Fillmore East and later Winterland I hold golden memories in my heart.

5/15/70, top 5

5/15/70/ is on my top 5 list of Dead shows that I would attend if I could go back in time. Along with, 5/2/70, 2/27/69, , 3/1/69, and 6/11/69.

Welcome to Thursday Night at Winterland

Gonna try and get everything just exactly perfect here...

Haven’t heard this one in awhile.. and so far so good, Jack Straw is def a stand out in this here first set. Nice Pick!

JIMINMD - The Good Ole GD Hour.. was definitely my first reliable source for good quality tapes. I still have a bunch of the tapes I made in the garage… memories. David Gans is yet another colorful and beloved character in the rogues gallery of GD collecting. A true pioneer that one..

STRIDER 88 - Wow.. What a time to be 23!! Great story, I can kinda picture it, it must’ve been great to be in the balcony at Winterland and just be able to scope out the scene and see friends. Fillmore East & Winterland the two most Hallowed of halls… keep the stories coming!

OTIS - Enjoyed 5/10/80 Set 2, smoking China > Rider!

BILLY THE KID - 6/11/69 what if it’s no good and you time traveled back to catch a bunk show? Unless of course you know something we don’t.. like where the tapes are?

Looking forward to Friday’s trip back to 5/15/70! That’s gonna be good, it’s been awhile.

You all ever think this is all a dream we dreamed?