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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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October 25, 2020 - 6:04pm

#5481

DeadVikes

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Fall 89

I need to check these shows out Oroborous, I always love a good Shakedown. Sounds like a blast!

Which reminds me we should probably check out 10/26/89 tomorrow? The Multi Track 89 30 Trips show from Miami.
October 25, 2020 - 4:55pm

#5482

JimInMD

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Fall 89

Right on Oroborous. Good vibes, great read.
October 25, 2020 - 2:49pm

#5483

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

10/20/89

So by now everyone’s fully settled into the Rectum run, and speculation and expectations are running high. So far only the Death Don’t, as far as the Big ticket tour items, so what would it be tonight, and would we go home slightly disappointed with Hampton as the “ones” and missed opportunity in Philly?
Certainly not out the gate. Nice 1-2 Touch O-GSET, with the usual era M.O.: loose but spirited. Then a nice Candyman, the second of only two on the tour. Another of those loose canon Weir rockers, Picasso Moon, which still seams a work in progress, but rocking. A decent Little Light, probably my favorite Bret tune, perhaps a bit smoother than some of the previous? A spirited Jed, Memphis, Stagger Lee, and set closing Promised Land....or wait??, WTF? Que other big top tour item from this show, the first ever of only 2 California EarthQuakes!
Though unfortunately I don’t have many specific memories from these shows, I do have a Kodak moment in my thick skull of this. So JG doesn’t stop, the crowd goes from end of set roar to you could hear a pin drop as I don’t think anyone knew this old tune. So everyone was tuned into try and hear what it was etc. By the time it builds up to that first chorus, the place goes GD nutz! Since those horrible quakes had just happened out there, everyone was well aware of the dire situation, and in true, magnificent GD style, they fucking killed it! What a tribute, made me proud to be a Californian and I’ve only been there visiting like a month total over the years. I’m literally getting choked up remembering this top shelf, all time personnel GD moment, a small elite, but powerful league to be sure.
So now the energy in the building is bursting. Will we get the DS, the Attics, a Dew, at least a Bid Thee Goodnight to close the run?
The second of only two Hey Pocky Ways to start the second, into the only Scarlet Fire of the tour, and a good showing. followed by a Truckin’ that morphs into a wild Other One Jam, 89 weirdness style, which devolves even more into the primordial ooze of drums/space midi electronic psychedelic joy, eventually morphing into I will Take You Home, which would normally be a good change up and it’s usual spot, but with each passing song the dream is weakening...
And though we get solid Other One>Rat>Maggy, with a usually appropriate run closing Brokedown, second of only two on the tour, I have to admit, there was a small let down. LOL, makes me think of DHBrewers awesome DaP 36 post! Ah gee shucks, lol. We’re so spoiled! ; )
Never the less, a great time was had by all, and a super run of shows that I was so fortunate to be at. So yeah I’m biased, but I think these three should land somewhere, someday officially. And though I’ve dreamed of a fall 89 comprehensive tour box, probably something smaller, say 5-7 shows depending on how you slice it would be more appropriate? In that case, which of these shows would get the ax? Tough call, some help reduce repetitiveness over several shows, some have tour rarities, some historical moments. I’d think at least 2 should be included, with the third day being a future Dave’s? Perhaps just a Spectrum 3 show box? Meh, think it needs a bit more bling?
So so far my ruff draft fantasy box list would something look like this:

- 9/29/89 for obvious reasons, but depending on space?
(* 10/8&9/89: already out. 2 from Hampton)
-10-14-89 my choice of the 4 not released yet. Would be 2 from Jersey
- 10/15/89 Jersey runner up
(*10/16/89 already out)
- 10/18,19,20/89: I can’t pick? Say 2 for the box, one for Dave’s?
So say four or five so far with 2 Charlottes and a Miami to go. If both Charlottes and the Miami are worthy, that puts us at
1- 9/29
2- 1 Jersey
3/4- 2 Philly
5/6- 2 Charlotte?
7- 10/25 Miami ?
Including previously released material, this would give us 2 from each venue, with the single 9/29 show as a bonus disc for a total of 7 shows? Maybe too early to decide yet...so,

Ok, on to Charlotte. Besides an unusually positioned H/S/F on 10/22, and 2 more biggins on 10/23, I’m stoked because I’ve never heard these before! So, when the Gods allow.....Onward!
October 25, 2020 - 1:38pm

#5484

Oroborous

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10/19/89, it has a Cumberland!

My 75th show picks up Rockin’ right where they left off the previous night, like a luge outta the gate, rattling around on the track, potentially out of control, through the first turns of Bucket, and a tad smoother into West LA, but eventually settle in and their here to play! After Bob? has to mess with shit, thearby taking the proverbial wind outta the sails, but eventually they come back with a good Victim, though it’s interesting to note this and Blow Away on this tour are more truncated versions. In the case of Blow Away that’s probably good as I think the extended rant versions could get stale if done all the time. Victim on the other hand would grow into a ridiculous auditory beast especially on the spring 90 tour and with the use of the surround speakers. Perhaps my personal fav is the one from Hamilton which unfortunately being a stereo recording does not let you experience the amazing weirdness we enjoyed on the floor that night!
Then, yes indeedy it does have a Cumberland! Followed by a spacey Cassidy>>Dough Knees.
But the biggest highlights of this show, and perhaps the run, come in the second set.
Only the Third Help-Slip-Franks since 9/12/85, and a fine showing they were. Next a status quo Estimated/Eyes, but I want to say I think I remember some nice midi weirdness in Estimated? Or maybe I’m mixing up my shows?
Onward through the weirdness zone, with gentle reintegration via The Wheel, which slides nicely into Mr Fantasy/Hey Jude Finale, only the second of two on the tour, which means wait for it....that’s right we’re getting a Death Don’t, the second of only two on the tour, and only the third since 4/26/70, and what a experience, get bumps just thinking bout it. Perhaps my fav of the three, but I need to line em up back to back...
Lovelight is a nice choice to finish/follow the big dog, and a always welcome Baby Blue encore, cept this time we might of been disappointed hoping for an Attics, but expecting at least a We Bid Thee Goodnight! Keep em wanting more eh!
This one definitely needs to come out in some form.
October 25, 2020 - 12:56pm

#5485

Oroborous

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10/18/89

Phewwww, it’s crazy how fast you can fall behind, but dagnammit I started this tour and I’m gonna finish.
So anniversary schedule is out the window but that’s ok cause I’ve been marinating in these shows to try recapture some of that old school familiarity like back in the day when you’d only get a few tapes now and then so you’d play nothing but until you knew em inside out...so several plays on the pad only at work, but had some nice proper listens at home this weekend. Overall there a little chameleon like, much like most of this tour. One day something doesn’t sit right, but the next time time you listen your going, ohhhh. Most 89, but not quite spring 90 tight, including the midi, but then outta nowhere some weird hiccup, or ruff spot. Bob especially seems to have some “moments” on this tour, mostly small and/or subtle, he’s playing great and he's dialing in the raunch nicely (think it started going too far later in the 90s?) but somethings just a tad off now and again? Perhaps this is why he uses tapes and gives cudos to summer tour versus fall more often?
But it’s the kind of thing you wouldn’t really notice unless your doing the whole tour like this...and it’s kinda nit picking.

So, 10/18. Opens with the only Shakedown of the tour, and though HENDRIXFREAK and I won’t be goofing around about GOAT anytime soon, its still a nice opener and a nice treat on this tour. Like much of this time span, it starts kinda relaxed, low key, and on its on time, but once the cobwebs come off it’s decent. Other highlights include a Peggy O just for Jimmy, a spacey Birdsong into a decent Music Never. Perhaps a short but sweet first set and a good first night of multi night run show. Back with an upbeat China/Rider Jers rippin. Nice Ship of Fools followed by a 89 style Women Are, and a Terrapin that spaces out into the awesome weirdness zone, formerly know simply as drums/space, with more of the psychedelic majesty, even if it is electronically induced versus chemical!
But they come Rockin’ outta there with the 1-2 punch of Gimme Sum>>Watchtower, with JG keeping it real with a sweet Black Pete, with Bob bringing it home with rocking A&A/Good Lovin’, with an upbeat US Blues Encore to suggest more to come manana.
Nice run opener with any signs of 10/16 hangover gone like an afternoon hair o the dog! Nice show, definitely some kind of release worthy?
October 25, 2020 - 12:27pm

#5486

Oroborous

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73/80

GOGD: as always thanks for the crack detective work. Quite a scene...I’ve heard Phil be Phil and heckle folks, but that was out right venom. “There is nothing like a GD concert” hee-hee. Can’t believe I’ve never heard about this one?

JIM: yes agree, according to the charts were over due for both Dave’s and a box for 1972, and were overdue for a 78 Dave’s, but obviously that’s changed. Still wonder about a early 78 box cause ya know those ABCD Beatty’s are getting released someway sometime, and he has been rooting in there. Guessing too close on the heals of the summer 78 box, but after the knuckle balls he’s chucked this year anything is possible, which is great!
Boy wouldn’t that be great if there was more quality stuff from fall 80, hell any 80 would be sweet, another black hole of underrepresentation! I’ve always felt like it doesn’t add up that ALL the tapes, especially quality multi-tracks could totally disappear? Sumthin don’t smell right? So hope your right! I know Deadvikes wouldn’t be the only one happy about that! Honestly, I think I’d rather have a cherry picked mid sized box than a comprehensive boxilla of all the shows. I know that’s sort of blasphemy, but practically speaking it might make sense...hopefully there’s somethin...
October 25, 2020 - 8:34am

#5487

DeadVikes

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October 26, 2016

1973 Met Center, Next Box

Crazy stuff at the Met Center. Maybe that is why they didn't come back to that venue until the late 1980s.

1980 you say Jim?? I am in of course. Hard to know what they will do next year and of course when it will be released. If it is a fall release, it will be something like 18 months between box set releases. Too long for this guy. One thing is for sure, they keep us guessing.

Like Oroborous said, we have those great years that are lost in space! So true. 80,81 and I will add 79 to that list as well. I think there is some great shows in that year.

Yes and I would love the 74 Winterland Box Conekid, that would be a break the website release.
October 25, 2020 - 7:55am

#5488

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

GD Movie film strip

The piece of film that I have is the very beginning of OMSN. What I thought looked like a crew member doing a repair on stage is actually a camera man.

It’s been a while since I’ve watched the movie. Makes me really want the entire run to be released in a Box with audio and video.
October 24, 2020 - 1:23pm

#5489

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Re: Oro - fun w/ a spreadsheet

Thanks Oro.. this seems to indicate the series is more balanced than a lot of people seem to acknowledge.

As for box, call me crazy, but I am speculating 72 or 80. My logic on 1980 is pure speculation. If they had some hidden reels (and there's a part of me that thinks they must), the certainly would not tell us. Perhaps when they were seeing what if anything was releasable.. while rummaging around the found a couple shows to be released as spin-offs giving us 10/8 and 10/9. Which gives them time to go through the good stuff and plan out a box set a couple years later. 1972, do we need a reason? Thinking the Fox Theatre St. Louis or the rest of the BCT's (if they have them). 69 will always be a wild card. Ark Ark.
October 24, 2020 - 1:10pm

#5490

The Good Ole G…

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Minnesota Nice 1973

10/23/73 - Fight -
So there's some good comments on Archive.org in regards to this, but the following eyewitness review seems to shed the most light:

Reviewer: duckpond74 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 30, 2010
Subject: a little history here . . .
What really sucked was that this show was advertised as "The Grateful Dead Performing 3 Sets". Casey Jones was the first song of Set 3. The fight was ugly - several security dudes beating on one guy who was dancing in the aisle right in front of the stage, even Bill K. jumped off the stage to help break things up and security started pounding on Bill, that's what Phil is so upset about. The melee ended soon after. By then, Jerry and Phil were both sitting on the stage floor - everyone seeming quite upset by this sudden change of weird energy and bad vibe. The band had several discussions - you could see that they were at serious odds about whether they should continue with the plan and do a third set. After all, the first two sets were well played, creative and joyful. When they finally tried to play Saturday Night, you could tell their hearts and minds were no longer into continuing this night. Too bad for all of us. Those security punks must have left their 'Minnesota Nice' at the door or when they donned their uniforms.

So Billy K jumped down into the melee, following in the footsteps of Marty Balin circa 1969. It sounds like Billy faired a little better and it was Security Guards instead of Pool Cue wielding Hell's Angels.

Fascinating. It makes you wonder what could have been during Set 3. I was under the assumption it was an encore, but shit.. that coulda been a Dark Star or something amazing.

Wang Dang Soundcheck started circulating online in mid 2008 when Charlie Miller posted his Transfer of SBD > Master Reel > Dat. Outside of an Official Release, it doesn't get any better than that.

Speaking of Official Releases (nice segue huh? I like transitions)... Man this 5/26/72 is sooooo goood.
Set 1 is essentially a Full Show.
And then... you get some of the greatest music they ever played.
Pigpen's organ fills during Europe '72 are the cherry on top, he's got the tastiest licks imho.
I've always liked his sense of when to lay back and when to add color.
Really enjoying this Truckin' boy howdy, I see what those folks in Turlock were excited about.
Good Stuff!

John Perry Barlow

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

5/8/77

Yes, for sure Vguy!I

Holy shit, not that I forget about it, but, this one for me always deserves a very loud and focused listen.

I know there have become naysayers regarding this release, but man it is really good.

Be well folks.

Its engrained in a heads DNA....

....whether you like it or not.

@ DeadVikes RE: Spring 90 Boxes

I have been keeping an eye out for them, but they are pricey! I would love to see an "All Music Edition" released - I would be all over that, but if I recall, there was mention at release of the original box that there would not be an AMR, nor would the individual shows be released for sale.

Thankfully, I have access to most (all?) of these shows from LMA, and I have a number of them DL'd that sound good.

Now, I think I hear Cornell calling...

Happy Friday, DeadLand

Peace

Being that it’s Friday

I’m going to save my listen of 5-8-77 until late afternoon/evening, when the beer starts flowing.

Oh yeah, Shakedown Stream. Don’t think I’ve ever seen the 7-2-89 video, so need to fit that into the schedule too.

But for now it’s coffee, and what to listen to....?

6-24-85 30 Trips it is.
One of only two official 85 releases.....
More 85 please Dave.
So many good ones from the summer, can’t pick just one, might need a Box.

@ IceCreamKid RE: 6/24/85

I think I'll join you! I started Set I of Cornell, but only made it to "El Paso" before work interfered. I think I will put a pause on 5/8/77 and hop on that 30 Trips 85 show with you! Looks like a killer 2nd set, and there is a nice looking Miller SBD on Archive.

Of course, things at Cornell will resume once I can sit down for a nice focused (read drink in hand) listen :)

Shadowboxing the apocalypse...

Peace

Great Vibes Here..

and the occasional story. Nice.

I will try to fit in 5/8 today.. I wanted to take advantage of downtime coinciding with Morel Mushroom season this year too. Perhaps I will load up a device and head out / try to undo my so/so luck at finding these tasty critters.

Big fan of Summer (and fall) '85. Yes.. the tapes can sound just a tad thin, but at least for the most part Healy was not pumping a bunch of audience noise into the boards. I am biased.. but I could really did a twofer 6/30 and 7/1/85. And that marked the end of the GD at Merriweather Post Pavilion. There were tents tucked away in just about every semi-secluded spot in town. What a scene (cool for the most part) but a scene that was sure to clash with suburban life and the city council.

Glad you could join Otis

I only just started because I first went out to retrieve the trash can and recycle bin, which then meant I also had to let my dog walk around the street sniffing stuff and peeing on other people’s mailboxes.

Yes, I want to be in the right frame of mind for Cornell.

Good luck shroom hunting Jim. Wonder if I could train my dog to sniff out morels? He would probably just eat them.

Jumping ship....

....only at Deal at Cornell, so i to, will pause and resume tonight. '85 it is. At work, so relisten it is. Found a nice matrix
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1985/06/24/alabama-getaway?source=95…

Take A Step Back..

Listened to Cornell Set 1, didn’t have that back in the day, it’s good, nothing mind blowing (in my current state of mind) but good.

I’ll save set 2 for later and hop on the 6/24/85 Riverbend train.

Definitely a favorite tape growing up. Love me some Cryptical, was just getting into the Dead in ’85 and was stoked to get Cryptical ’85 on tape. Would play this show and the next night 6/25 from Blossom with Day Tripper all the time! Heavy Rotation, takes me back…

Went to Riverbend the next year but alas, no Cryptical.

Hot Dog, gonna jam some epic Dead followed by Shakedown Stream with Pre-Show Bobby Weir & Playing In The Band show opener.

Happy Friday!

Be well

That hit the spot

Now palate cleansing with CCR 7-4-71, Closing of Fillmore West, KSAN FM, apparently pre-FM.

Then I’m hitting Cornell Set 1, then going outside to cover my plants from freezing tonight, then Cornell Set 2, then Shakedown Stream.
I like it when good plans come together.

Cornell anniversary

6 to 10 inches of snow that night back on 5/8/77 and it is suppose to snow there tonight!!! Thanks for remembering and celebrating with us nature!!!

If you get confused just....

Vault 3, enjoyed more than I thought. Listening in the background whilst working, so might check back in the tonight with fresh beer to be delivered today, on the big boy system. and what’s that you say?....Summer 85....don’t have to twist this arm! That’ll be this afternoons working fluid...nice mix, some killer spring 90, then some killer 71, then some killer 85! Yeah baby!
I’ll prolly have to skip the Cornell which I don’t mind because I want to try and check out 7/2/89. Haven’t seen that one yet and would be some Good Friday prime time enjoyment!
I can just access that via YouTube no? Anyone know what time that starts without looking it up? Thanks

RE: OROBOROUS

Pre-Show / Party begins 8pm EST / 5pm PST

Streamshake?

Thanks!
Did this start yet? There was a clock countdown to 6:30 est but nothings happening...guessing this is just open time, kind of like FTW? ....or am I just geezing out here?
I’ve never checked this out yet, does the pre-game start at 8 or the actual show?

ShakeStream

Yep.. they just gave out the secret code.

Edit: Geeze.. I suspect you missed the new secret handshake too.

________________________________________

I'm actually looking forward to this. It's one of the few from this era I am not super familiar with.. plus, it's got a PITB Opener and Serendipitously.. a reportedly good To Lay Me Down.

Shakedown Stream

It on the GD YouTube channel.

Pre-show is live, with Bob as special guest.
Show at 8:30e/5:30p

Shake-N-Stream

It's 8:30 right now, The Grateful Goddamned DeadDammit.

1989 Dead

Bob likes summer ‘89 Dead too!

I donated $20....

....seemed like the right thing to do.
Nothing wrong with a Playin' opener! Ever!!
Just learned that Spotify teamed up with the GOGD and Dead & Co and will match every Covid donation $ for $, up to a million $'s. That's cool.

Kind Soul

You have a kind soul, VGuy. The world is in need.

5/8/77

Hi!

I won't go through this show, it needs no commentary.

I will add this, my older sister who left for college in 1985, left behind two tapes in our Mom's blue Civic hatchback, Shakedown Street and 12/31/83. I grabbed those cassettes and never looked back. Back in the 1980s I had no idea that the live recorded shows could ever sound this good. In May of 2017 all those years of bad cassette recordings seemed to maybe make sense.

I never had those second or third generation tapes.

Be well folks.

Best shows, way too many!

On to Dave's 34, just arrived today.

Ted Dape

I love those old stories of analog

7/2/89

Holy Quacamole Batman! How did I never hear/see this one before?
It’s a virtual Jerry fest and interesting set list in general. Only quibble I can think of was after He’s Gone, why the Hell did Bob bail on what first sounded like Smokestack, then Jerry mosdef was playing Spoonful? You could see the whole band waiting on Bob and then things seem to fizzle, so Jerry breaks out Eyes, but you could tell something was up? Maybe Bobs Barrett’s were too tight, lol. Yeah, what was up with that? Can’t believe the band, no, the crew let him get away with that weirdness? Started watching 7/4 right after and that shit was gone...
Speaking of 7/4, as good as 7/2 was, you could tell immediately that 7/4 was gonna give it a run for its money if not top it, and imho 7/4 does best it. Funny I don’t recall much from this show. Member it was definetly a great show, but didn’t think I’d be going on about it 31 years later. Hearing shows many years later, especially ones for the first time, and comparing with my memories, increasingly blows my mind. Some I thought were meh turn out to be good, and some I thought were fantastic, turn out to be ok etc...so much fun!
Sorry, a little off topic but really enjoyed this show last night. Oh, and why the hell isnt this released? Hopefully just saving it? It’s already been produced enough to distribute to theaters for MUATM, so why not put it out?
Also, why is Dave so hot on summer, but not fall 89? Summer was awesome, but fall was even better, and of course spring 90 was the peak.

July '89

7/2/89 = Fun Shakedown Stream!

When it became the pick for Meet-Up At The Movies in 2016 this show began to peak my interest, but I missed it in the theaters. Prior to that the show was off my radar, as no SBD circulated. But with the PITB > Crazy Fingers Set 1 & FOTD Set 2 openers, I put it on my list of too get, and eventually Miller hooked it up in May 2017.

I agree an official release seems doable... maybe a freebie download of the video mix for all us obsessed and oh so loyal fans?!?

After listening to Bob & Dave talk about July '89 again last night, it got me curious. I can see with Bobby requesting July '89 specifically, that alone would totally place those shows on Dave's radar.. and we've reaped some of the benefits:
7/02/89 - MUATM 2016 & Shakedown Stream Last Night
7/04/89 - Truckin' Up To Buffalo 2005
7/07/89 - Crimson White & Indigo 2010
7/09/89 - Giants Stadium Box 2019
7/10/89 - Giants Stadium Box 2019
7/12/89 - RFK Stadium Box 2017
7/13/89 - RFK Stadium Box 2017
7/15/89 - Truckin' released on The Music Never Stopped Movie Soundtrack 2011
7/17/89 - Downhill from Here 1997 (majority)
7/18/89 - MUATM 2012
7/19/89 - MUATM 2015 & Downhill from Here 1997 (3 songs)

I decided today I'd listen to 7/15/89 and check it out a bit more.. It's pretty fun, not sure it'll get the release nod anytime soon.. but maybe we'll get a video of it. Nice Bird Song, and Truckin' is worth the ride.

Well how's the snow you east coasters? We're supposed to hit 85 today in Portland.. seems a bit early for that.

Be Well Friends!

Re:GOGD

Berry interesting...didn’t know (more likely forgot) about 7/18&19 being MUATM/released? Again, if they already incurred the production costs to make these some what releasable, why not release em? I know they haven’t done well on the video stuff which I believe is why they mostly stopped, but if you already have usable product, why not just do a pre-order where you know just how many units to run?

RE: OROBOROUS

Based on your response, I say let's go for it. Cool Dave Lemieux?

Like most things, I imagine money is the issue. Quantity = Price breaks on production costs / if Quantity doesn't sell.. yada yada. These kind folk here at Dead.net been testing those waters for some time now, the formula seems pretty set lately. DVD is dead, heads tend to want to have physical copies so they can play, rip, look at, whatever... not sure what the next model is in that regard.

But for the record, I can make DVDs, CDs and artwork, so if you all over here at Dead.net need any help, just lmk and I'd be happy to assist.

That all being said, I've moved over to 7/18/89 Alpine night two, and this Set 1 is well worth a revisit for any and all needing a musical suggestion.

Alpine '89 might make a good box release DVD & CD, all 3 nights in their entirety. Might be too well known due to Downhill from Here & MUATM..

But maybe we'll get 7/18 & 7/19 Shakedown Streams.. I'm calling it, we'll either get one or both.

Bets?

If it happens I want a burrito...

Is there a pick of the day today??....

....if not, may i recommend 2.11.89 Great Western Forum in the City Of Angels?
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1989/02/11?source=102940
If nothing else, check out the second set. I attended this one, and the second set was one of the best I can recall (which is saying a lot if you get my meaning). Airto Moreira, Flora Purim and Diana Moreira sat in during drumz and Eyes (out of Space mind you). I nice I will Take You home into drumz as well. I was pretty pie-eyed on acid and ecstasy at this one and drumz took me out of the roof of the arena and back again. Messed me up so much i sat for the rest of the show, getting all introspective and such. Felt tinges of a bad trip coming on. Thought the band sounded bad, etc. Only stood up for Black Peter, then proceeded to sit for the rest. Yelled that Box Of Rain was a shitty encore. My buddies sensed things were amiss, and proceeded to try and cheer me up at the hotel room afterwards. I was a mess. I definitely had too much too fast. No hallucinogens for me the next night, or for awhile after to be honest.
When I listened to a tape of it later, I realized they sounded great and it was all in my head. Don't mix drugs kids.

Alpine 89

GOGD, good point, saturation etc, but you have to think SOMEDAY? Alpine 89 will get the full treatment as it seems like that run gets as much lip service here as any of the top “not if, but when” runs that folks continually mention here.
Or maybe I’m just biased?....

RE: Today's Pick & More '89

VGUY: I don't think there was a pick today, peeps were still trying to catch up on Cornell, Riverbend '85 & Shakedown Stream .. so much Dead so little time.

I jumped on the July '89 train after Shakedown Stream got me thinking. On Set 2 of 7/18/89 if you wanna give a listen. Decent show for sure, Set 1 seemed nice and strong, mid set 2 as we speack. Me and OROBOROUS were talking about the likely hood of Alpine '89 getting released someday...

OROBOROUS You are correct sir, those shows sure have a lot of love supporting them and July '89 seems to be on both Dave & Bob's radars... so I guess we'll see. For the quick fix, I think our best bet is the upcoming Shakedown Streams, I'm thinking we might see 7/18 or 7/19 possibly both. FWIW this 7/18 Miller SBD is dope.

I'd love to know more about what sells and what hasn't worked. For instance this year, I had good copies of the Giants Box set shows, but since it was multi-track & a DVD plus cool liner notes, they got me and I was in. Same with June '76. And Jai-Lai '74, again I've had good boards of those forever it seems, but getting the official release, I was in... not to mention already had the sub. So.. yeah, from what I can tell... if they build it, we will come.

VGUY - Tripping too hard.. been there. I'll make note of 2/11/89 and try and see what you was missing...

Time for some delayed 4:20 as Eyes heads into drums. 7/18/89 is nice especially as I can picture wonderful ole Alpine Valley and all those happy people boogieing down.

7/18/89

China Doll out of Space after 4:20, Do it!

Nice Mr. Fantasy too so far.. wide open Alpine feel, or maybe It’s cause the sun is shining & the breeze is blowing at same time.. or maybe it’s both..

Worth a re-listen for sure

It’s been awhile but 7/18/89 has some good jams!

The Set 2 Eyes> D> S> China Doll> Fantasy> Jude> Throwing> SSDD, Quinn just now sounded sublime.

Almost identical song order as 7/2/89 but different pace, tempo, feel makes it completely different. And sounded esp good right now.

Dug it, now I really hope they stream this show!

Have a good one everybody it’s OMSN!

Happy Mother's Day to the Mamas out there!

I hope all are well on this Sunday, and I hope every mom is happy, wherever she may be :)

Here is a little listening for us on this great day - Kid tested, mother approved!

Set II of 5/10/80 - maybe one of the greatest pre-drums second sets of all time...

https://archive.org/details/gd1980-05-10.set2.sbd.miller.91938.sbeok.fl…

Set II - 5/10/80 Hartford

China Cat>
Rider
Stranger>
Comes a Time>
Estimated >
He's Gone >
UJB >
Drums >
Space >
NFA >
Sugar

E: Alabama >
OMSN

Peace

Otis

That is quite a list!

@ Oroborus

Yeah, it is great! The band is hot, and I love the whole thing, but check out the jam from He's Gone to UJB... super cool.

I hope you and yours are well!

Peace

Today's Pick

Looks like we need a pick for today and I saw Bob T mention 5/11/77 at the St. Paul Civic Center. Sounds like a winner to me.

Week 9 in quarantine for us here in MN.

Be well folks.

5/11/77

May of 77... no brainer.

I have to say, I'm a bit surprised that we haven't done more 77... may I suggest 12/29/77, aka Dick's Pick #10 for Tuesday?

Peace

12/29/77

I am in on that for tomorrow, thanks Otis.

Yes, 5/11/77 is a stellar Spring 77 show. The Jack Straw and Peggy O kind of melt your face. Love that Sugaree to end the first set. Scarlet Fire, and what a finish! Throw in a Brokedown Palace encore. I love this show.

Fry, Bueller?

12.29.77 sounds just fine....

....if I recall, that's the show where Jerry forgot an entire verse of China Doll. Could be wrong. The down side of so many awesome releases is that it gets hard to recall correctly at times. I think I'm right though.
Busy day at work. Had time to check out 5.11.86 though. Miracle -> US Blues to open the second set caught my ear. Cool banter by the Boyz that gig. Passed 5.11.77 by today. Catch it later.

12-29 China Cat Breakout

Weir was dropping China Cat teases after the hiatus all over until the breakout including 10-3-76 and Winterland 6-8-77 during NFA (just rediscovered that one the other day). You could tell he really wanted to bring that one back.

12/29/77

Yep, sounds good! Dang, I've had this ever since it first came out (98) but I've barely even listened to it. I guess back then I was obsessed with pre-hiatus and this one fell through the cracks. Better late than never!
I just listened to the Bonus material from 12/30- wow! The Estimated jam really catches fire, then fine Jerry vocals on Eyes, then a sweet quiet jam into St. Stephen. The crowd goes wild at the first St. Stephen notes. Powerfully jammed Stephen and Sugar Mag to close- whew- a great sequence. Latvala never let us down!

12.29.77

Had the meat of the second set on tape courtesy of David Gans and the Grateful Dead Hour since circa 1990?? then in something like 91 or 92 I hit dreaded record on my portable player and handn't removed the tabs on the cassette. So I had this two second break in the tape where you could audibly hear the word (think slow motion) F uh uh chk chk chk, then back to the music. It wasn't until the Dicks Picks came out that I had it complete again. Whew,..

Always a personal favorite. The transition in China Rider is both sublime and unique. Super smooth and fluid.

Anyway.. my little personal story about that release. How many people out there used to record The Grateful Dead Hour back in the day because.. well because it was almost always better than the tapes I had of those shows at the time. It was almost like an early version of the Internet Archive for lots of us. David Gans for Pres? ha..

12/29/77

I wrote a story about being at that show that is in the comments section on 12/29/77. I’m lucky to listen to every other suggested show in this forum. Will definitely listen today even if a day late. It’s on my IPod so I can listen at home. Shows not on my IPod I tune in by iPhone off of a cell tower 35 miles away that I have to get up to a ridge top a couple miles from home. The 50th anniversary of my second Dead show is Friday . Was at the early show. If no one has picked for Friday , 5/15/70 would be great. NRPS was there the same night.

Re: 5.15.70

Good idea Strider.

For what it's worth, I took the time to compile the best available audio from the New Riders sets and combined it with the Fully Normanized version, arranging the songs in the correct order, etc. I forget if there was (were) missing song(s) on the released version, I think yes.. if so they are included. It's as good a quality, full show experience as you are going to get 50 years into the future. It's monster long, meaning big.. and of course full of big fun.

I think Ziffle who posts here sporadically was there also and spoke quite highly of the whole experience. These are the type of shows I am most envious of and if I could set the dials to the wayback machine, one by one I would hit them all.

Anyway regarding the full show experience, you know where to reach me.. 7 CDs worth of music in one night.. I believe the sun was already up when the noise inside finally subsided and the people began pouring out into the sidewalks of New York having the difficult task of making sense of what in the hell just happened and what became of their minds (sounds of jaws scraping up sidewalk debris as they walked to the subway to go home).

Travis Bean / Wolf Guitar / Gibson SG 1970 1977

Wolf makes a reappearance at the New Years run. Jerry played a Travis Bean earlier in the year. (77) Only saw him play the Bean once , one time in Eugene, Oregon March 1976 with his own band.
May 15, 1970 was far different from my first GD show in the dead of winter. Springtime in NYC is a rush of a different feeling . NRPS plus acoustic Dead, throw in Workingmans Dead release and one small detail , I was fucking 16 years old! Main difference at my first Dead show, I pretty much stayed in my seat, second Dead show besides acoustic set I was up dancing at my seat during NRPS set and the electric set as much as possible.
A shame more of the acoustic sets of the 70 odd mas o menos from 1970 , 1980 were not taped or were lost.
When I think of the Fillmore East and later Winterland I hold golden memories in my heart.

5/15/70, top 5

5/15/70/ is on my top 5 list of Dead shows that I would attend if I could go back in time. Along with, 5/2/70, 2/27/69, , 3/1/69, and 6/11/69.

Welcome to Thursday Night at Winterland

Gonna try and get everything just exactly perfect here...

Haven’t heard this one in awhile.. and so far so good, Jack Straw is def a stand out in this here first set. Nice Pick!

JIMINMD - The Good Ole GD Hour.. was definitely my first reliable source for good quality tapes. I still have a bunch of the tapes I made in the garage… memories. David Gans is yet another colorful and beloved character in the rogues gallery of GD collecting. A true pioneer that one..

STRIDER 88 - Wow.. What a time to be 23!! Great story, I can kinda picture it, it must’ve been great to be in the balcony at Winterland and just be able to scope out the scene and see friends. Fillmore East & Winterland the two most Hallowed of halls… keep the stories coming!

OTIS - Enjoyed 5/10/80 Set 2, smoking China > Rider!

BILLY THE KID - 6/11/69 what if it’s no good and you time traveled back to catch a bunk show? Unless of course you know something we don’t.. like where the tapes are?

Looking forward to Friday’s trip back to 5/15/70! That’s gonna be good, it’s been awhile.

You all ever think this is all a dream we dreamed?