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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    I have been there twice when it was named The Theater at Madison Square Garden..

    I thought it was a weird place. Kind of an urban theater.. few frills, lacking the ornate gold leaf feel and Gothic/Victorian amenities. Typical theater seating in semi-circle curving around the stage. I do not recall a balcony and I recall the seating having a very shallow incline. Madison Square Garden is directly on top of you, Penn Station is I think below you. I recall it as being tiny, I cannot imagine 5k people there, maybe if your date sat on your shoulders... To me it seemed considerably smaller than say the Beacon Theatre which holds under 3k people. Maybe they can get rid of some baffling walls or dividers or something. Must have been a wild ride to see the GD there.

    I think one of the times I was there was to see the How the Grinch Stole Christmas as a theatre presentation right before Christmas with my kid.. NYC is (was, will be again one day) a fun place to visit just before the holidays so long as you don't mind spending a little quality time with like 9 million of your closest friends. Hot Tuna used to play at the Beacon every year around Jorma's birthday between Thanksgiving and Christmas. A great time and place to see the Tuna.

    Strider, wherefore art thou?

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    ran·dom
    /ˈrandəm/
    adjective
    1. made, done, happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision.
    "a random sample of more than 2300 grateful dead shows"

    You guys are going way out there!
    I like it.

    Strider you were at these Felt Forum shows right?!?
    I seem to recall you talking about Jerry playing a Fender Strat if that's where it's at...
    Far Out.

    What was the Felt Forum like as a venue?

    Located inside the Madison Square Garden seats between 2,000 and 5,600 for concerts named in honor of Irving Mitchell Felt.

    Seems as though the GDs popularity in NY at this time had them going to larger & larger Venues.
    I should find out the story about Bill Graham's involvement in putting this on, having closed the Fillmore East and and telling the press on 4/28/71 that he was tired and it wasn't worth it. More negatives than positives.
    Apparently, there were still some positives. Like some big fat sacks of cash!

    BG intro.. harboring some resentment about Bob's baseball game and for smashing his shoulder. Love this stuff.

    Oh wait... this is sounding like a This Day in Dead History.. shit!

    PS - Jim that Fire On The Mountain yesterday!! Holy Moly, I loved that. Show was way off my radar. Really dug it. 1981 is ringing my bell lately. I'm telling you that year is in the air. DL is gonna release some :)
    12/4/73 is ok, but the band sounds a bit fatigued.

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    Holy crap this board sounds fantastic. What is it about a great sounding show that turns your day around?

    I washed my hands in muddy water. Love it.

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    12/5/71 Felt Forum, I will check it out Jim.
    Thanks.

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    I agree this is a pick of the day forum, not today in GD history..

    So lets try and mix things up a bit today.. picked at random, how about 12/5/71, one of my first tapes. When I wrote the song list on the XLII S label, I used a red pen. I liked the the tape so much, I thought.. hey, for the really good shows I will use red ink. This lasted for about five good shows and then I got another batch and had no red pen. The stupid things we do for really no reason at all that seem to make sense at the time. 12/5/71 Felt Forum, lady in red.

    So my toast, to things that seem to make sense at the time. I must have washed my hands in a muddy stream.....

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    Holy crap Oroborous, you are smoking today, keep them coming.

    Yes, the Blu Ray is special with the audio blue ray mix. Love to see them give us a video release with this mix again. Had a ball seeing this show at the 2019 MUATM.
    New Speedway Boogie!
    Remember those days?
    We need to get back to that.

    Stay well and everybody hang loose.

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    Lol, ok, nother story coming...
    Yeah this show started out a bit “speedy” lol, but as Jim says bout the time the full SB kicks in so they seem to slid into the zone. Really digging 81 a lot lately.....Dave?

    Ok, story. Doing merch on Ziggy tour winter 96...we’re in Salt Lake of all places. Staying in same Holiday in on the main strip with the band. Had them in their own separate wing if memory serves. So we happen to walk down that hall for some reason and shit you not, as soon as we opened the door and entered the hall the ganja smell was so intense I swear I caught a contact buzz by the time we reached the other end of the hall LOL! My cousin too and he quit years before that....Salt Lake of all the places, too funny. I loved working with those guys they were so cool and nice, and perhaps the hardest working group I’ve ever seen, but man did those dudes like to burn, prodigious is an understatement! Dam, sorry, memory jog, next show, same tour, first time in Vail.
    My cousin wanted to head back home that night even though we had one more in Denver next night. So small venue etc, since not carrying through all those draconian states, asked their helper guy Bali if I could get turned on...so he takes me backstage where a bunch of road crew etc (some going way back to the wailers etc) are sitting in this tiny room, about ten folks, and they break out this giant spleef. So I take a hit and go to pass when Bali informs me the custom is to sort of bathe in it, spend time with it, take several hits, almost what we would call bogarting, so who am I to break custom etc. well after this goes round a few times I’m now completely otta my mind lol. So I make a polite excuse to extricate myself since I am supposed to work. Well I was too loose to truck and had to stand in a back hall have a smoke and chill,out for a while since our “booth” is the penalty box of the tiny rink only facing out towards the main entrance, which Is about 15’ in front of us and where ALL the cops, EMTs etc are hanging...so I finally meander back and as I turn and stare at these authority types staring at us, I immediately get the fear, which my cousin sees and understands, of course laughing hard and giving me shit to this day! Fortunately, being such a small venue, he says go have fun but be ready to help for the busy time as people leave the show! Thanks bro, phew, of course it snows like three feet that night but we’ve given up our room, and it’s February in Vail so no rooms anyway, Oh, and there wasn’t a gas station we could find. So as Im literally the last car through the I 70 closure gate as their closing it, guy waving for us to stop but my cousin telling me to go for it....so as there closing the dreaded Vail pass and my first time on the white ribbon of death, still stoned to the gills, with like next to no gas, in a rental car we got in Cali with no snow tires! oy!
    Luckily we found gas up in Frisco and made the trek but man that was a tuff drive! I’d recently moved to Colorado, but had never been up their yet. Glad I grew up in the North east!
    Aaaa the adventures of youth!
    Another not so funny Salt Lake tale was of old roommate/bandmate who got popped driving right after sparking up leaving Salt Lake on LOS tour early century....long story short he wrote a great song called Calivada highway where (a bridge is built from Colorado over Utah with hilarious lyrics, including the chorus about building the plumbing so it flows right through so we can say Utah piss on you! (No offense to all the good folks we’ve met from/in Utah, just a funny song about a sore subject)
    The look on folks face when we used to play it, priceless! Hard to believe they have medical etc now, there and Nevada with full legalization. Remember the days with the intimidating road signs showing a cop and proclaiming something like “1 seed equals a hundred years” or some such scary shit. Glad those days are starting to end!

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    Some full episodes of that turned up on Archive recently, might start there as I hadn't see the full show before.

    It's a trip!

    Learning lots. Prior to this year, I was completely focused on collecting the "tapes". But at the end of last year I finished up '94 and was done (you're never done, but you know what I mean?), and that dove tailed into this year being supremely strange and psychedelic and getting the opportunity to be able to listen to all this wonderful stuff and hang out with you all, so it's been really cool to explore different facets of this jewel and do some deep dives on the "facts" behind all these great shows. I'm loving it!

    This year I've definitely turned a corner in my GD habits, for good or ill... we will see :)

    BTW you all are great, keep up the good work!

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    Hhhhmmmmm I do remember watching as a lad, but I guess I always thought he said that?
    Of course we’ve established the condition of my memory or yuck yuck, lack there of many moons ago!
    “Berry interesting, but stooopid” speaking of 60s TV, remember that blast from the same past? Hee-hee!
    Oh @#$& speaking of old TV shows, after seeing BTKs cool post on another thread showing the Mnts of the Moon from Playboy after dark I’ve gotta watch that whole episode some time! If it’s on YouTube I’ll have to remember to try and find, perhaps pre game for the “big shoooo” lol another 60s TV reference 😉

    EDIT: yeah Jim I heard a bout uuussseee 2 yooots ??

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    I love all your “ramblings” and I mean that in a good way! I look forward to your enlightening us! It’s like old school reading the paper or having morning coffee with my friends!
    I’ve kinda never been this immersed in the Dead until the last few years here. Gear and sound geek, always, went to as many shows as I reasonably could, have read everything I could and have a decent library, but I’ve never been quite at the level of devotion and subsequent deep dives as some of you. never really been a “computer” person either, so way behind on that tack that you guys bring such an interesting wealth of great information, especially the silly and out there stuff! So please, keep it coming.
    Between all y’all’s information, and great old timers like Strider, BTK, Bolo (where art though?) etc making us drool with stories from golden years, where else can you get such friendly, informative and interesting kicks! THANKS
    My little, very little mind you, critique is only that perhaps we’ve just gotten a little predictable with our picks? I mean most people know many of these “big” shows inside out, so to me at least the Beauty of this forum for instance, is when Slow Dog turns us onto that hot Glassberg 81, or we hit that 12/1 73 for good or ill, or DHB or DV calls out a official release like this 91 that we may not usual think of......most of all, to be surprised, and turned on to new and often off the beaten path stuff; Billy getting in to fights, weird hippie girls putting sweaters on Jerry...let’s face it, after alll these years, isn’t it most fun to get turned on to new and interesting things?
    Hey the go to stuff is always just a click away, but to me the thing that makes this special is getting turned on to the unknown!
    I guess you could argue that can work both ways as evident by y’all’s recent fall 72 trip as it came about partly because of the calendar...of course I think HF has us all thinking more and more about some kind of “fall 72 box” and being that could cover several months, which probably isn’t practical (sorry HF lol) so of course a fuller understanding of this time period helps enlighten such discussions, like what most likely that box would look like etc?
    Sorry, too much coffee and nervous energy, I wish this gal would call already...

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 05/12/2020 - 19:47

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....12.27.79 was the show where Jerry forgot an entire verse of China Doll. It happens. Not dissing Garcia. Just proud of my recollection. Grate show. Grate Terrapin to end.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Tue, 05/12/2020 - 21:16

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The return of China Rider!. Terrapin!
Would love to see some of these older releases remastered, although this is very unlikely to happen.

Where have you gone Bolo?

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Submitted by bolo24 on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 03:47

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Speaking of which, how about an old-fashioned Saturday doubleheader assignment in the hopes that we may actually see some baseball being played one of these days? I'm getting a little tired of watching games from 10 years ago, especially since I bet on the outcome and still lose!

So, Weir's "Ace" album (Saturday is the 48th anniversary
of the release date) and Garcia's first solo effort? A good set of headphones highly recommended for this listen. PITB on Ace is an absolute tour de force - the quiet section coming out of the jam is pure sonic butter. And the pedal steel work by Jerry on his album is some of the finest ever recorded, IMO.

Hope y'all are in good health. Stay safe as we ease back into "real" life, or some semblance of it.

48th Anniversary Weir & Garcia Double Header Saturday sounds fun.

Sounds like good music to come down on after friday's 5/15/70 50th Anniversary Trip!

Not seeing a pick for today, so I'm gonna pop in 5/13/72 this AM to get the anniversary theme trip started.

What about you all?

Mine arrived yesterday, so that was my pick of the day followed by another run through High-Life Frodo.

So, 5-11-77 and/or 12-29-77 for today.

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Submitted by Gollum on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 07:19

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The Garcia/Weir doubleheader is a great idea. I've never spent much time with either album, even though I know I should love both. Also, I just got a pair of quarantine-headphones and this will be a good opportunity to give them a run. And a 5/15/70 friday -very sweet.

....I can't recall the last time I cranked Ace. Forgot BT Wind had horns. LOL. It's a good record to turn to 11. Garcia's 1st and 5.13.77 to follow. Then 5.13.72 if time allows. In that order.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 08:17

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Yo bro, you're supposed to save Ace & Garcia double header for Saturday...

Start cranking 5/13/77... and then 5/13/72 today;)

BTW I listed to 2/11/89 I had those Drums marked with 4 stars from back in the day.. I bet that helped you along in your situation!!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 08:21

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....you're correct GOGD. Changing course. Inputing coordinates.
edit....let's throw Mickey's Rolling Thunder in the Saturday mix as well!!

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 08:28

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Roger, just want to keep you on course my friend, gotta keep the travelers traveling in the right direction.

Edit: Doh, The Thunder Machine is broken over here, I need the Thunder, Hmm...

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Submitted by Elbow49 on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 09:37

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I don’t always keep current here but have we ever had a consensus as to who Bolo24 is?

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Submitted by Oroborous on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 10:07

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What, is the question!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 10:24

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75-minute work phone call.

Now it’s 61 with blue sky and sun, and my dog wants to go outside and pee on all the neighbor’s mail boxes.

So, I’m going to wait for 5-13-77 until later today when happy hours start.
Sorry for the false start.

Anyway, people have been mentioning about recording the GD Hour as a source of cassette recordings. I only had one tape of GD Hour (I wanted full shows, even if the sound quality wasn’t as good) and it was a partial of 5-13-77, which included the Jerry solo/noodling and Other One. I was never able to find a tape of the whole show in good sound quality, so I was pretty happy when the Box came out.

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Submitted by CaseyJanes on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 13:48

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Bolo24 is Bolo24...of course!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 14:10

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Happy hours have started.

I going with a giant Mojito, which is a Mojito made in a 1-liter Paulaner Octoberfest mug, and sitting in the sun on the deck. It’s 65 and sunny now, was snowing last Saturday.

Woo Hoo!

You don't have to twist my arm to listen to this show. Of the two Chicago shows, this one kicks ass.

Bob T, regarding the banter before TMNS, are we missing some of the banter in the official release? Pretty soon we will a full band here. Dr. Shot, DR. Beechwood. So great.

Man, these guys had fun, that much is for sure.

Yes, just loved the way they played Jack A Roe in May of 1977.

Love the FOTD, finish the set with the Scarlet Fire! Come on.

Second set later.

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Submitted by Dennis on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 14:44

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Bolo? Bolo is the person that makes little kids smile and giggle. Bolo is the person who strikes fear into the hearts of evil doers. Some say Bolo comes like the light of the morning. And like a wind, they have a name; Bolo. Around the fire at night, folks will speak of the time they met Bolo. Some in worried whispers. They're the person who gave Jerry a drink of water after an incredibly hot Fire on the Mountain. This one I know is true because I was there. Where ever you find a person looking for a “miracle” ticket, Bolo is there. Wherever a person is hungry Bolo is there with a soy burger. When you’re setting up camp the night before the big show and realize you forgot the coasters for your beer, Bolo is there. When you’ve hitchhiked for 2 days in the rain, that person that picked you up and handed you the fatty; Bolo. Bolo is an elemental being, hanging for a while in the flux between then and now. Most will be better for the chance encounter and probably will not realize who they just met.

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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 15:58

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I am not entirely sure who or what Bolo24 is. The only thing I am sure of is.. is that he is the one with the Nuclear Codes.

A bit of related trivia.. they only just recently released the identify of Bolo23.

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Submitted by Gollum on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 17:00

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Vguy ups the ante this weekend with Rolling Thunder? I'm in! I've never really listened to that one but it's some of our favorite San Francisco hippies in Mickey Hart's barn circa 1972 - what could go wrong? Surprised to see it's still available on iTunes.

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Submitted by bob t on Wed, 05/13/2020 - 18:13

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Dark Star, and you get to hear Weir say "Thanks a whole hellav a lot" after he gets hit with a cup before encore??? Also a smoking Not Fade Away into an awesome Going down the Road... If we are burned out from Jai Alai Fronton I get it.... Bob t

Holy shit Bob T! Yes, for sure.

I have only listened to Dave's 34 once and it is really good. Such a unique show.

The MT May show from 1974 is probably now the second best 74 Dave's Picks released.

74 is so good. Certainly wish some of the early Dick's and RT trips were not complications but most of them are still so good. I get why some don't like going past 74.....
Anyway, for Friday we should try to do something other than an anniversary show......
How about 7/17/76?? Dave's #18, with bonus disc, with 7/16/76.

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Submitted by Oroborous on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 10:34

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Now your talking. Have to spend time in the stereo room/office today so perfect, I can listen on the big boy system!
Finally did 5/7/72 a coupe days ago and wow I had forgotten what a beast this show is. Their ripping the whole show and man what a grease fest! The DS is good too, but I still like 5/11/72 better. Finally got to that yesterday. I don’t think the first half of the show is as good as others, but the last half is hard to beat, and I’ve akways had something for that DS....I had the loveliest time listening last evening; the light at that time of day, the sound and treats all dialed in, just a wonderful little respite from the current madness. A few hours of bliss. Dug it so much I stayed a little longer and broke out most of V2 Disc 2. Vault 2 has always been a favorite; awesome TIFTOO, New Potato and that monster Phil Jam....remember the first time I heard that, total mind fuck!
So yeah, I’m in for 5/14/74 today, thought all y’all were doing 5/15/70 tomorrow? and the three solos on Saturday?

I think that the plan was to listen to 5/15/70 tomorrow - Road Trips 3.3. It was mentioned by someone earlier in the week, then seconded by a number of other folks.

That being said, I am all for 7/17 and 7/16 1976 - 7/16 is my birthday, and I happen to love that release! As tomorrow is a Friday, perhaps we can squeeze in both, or save the 76 show for Saturday.

Peace

Edit: Oh yeah, Ace, Garcia, and Rolling Thunder are already lined up for Saturday... folks are jumping on dates early round here! :)

....Is in full swing.
They Played a lot of good shows on this date. This Vegas one was good.
https://archive.org/details/gd1993-05-14.140129.sbd.miller.flac2496
Was at this show. People got struck by lightning in the lot. Good times.
They also played this nifty show at the Greek Theatre in 1983. Good Rango Aud cleaned up by Miller.
https://archive.org/details/gd1983-05-14.fob.sonyecm220t.keshavan.mille…
Merramec Comm College 1970. This includes the NRPS set.
https://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-14.sbd.warner-evans.28716.sbeok.f…
Yes. May 14th delivers.
The Montana Scarlet -> Roses is fine stuff indeed. Must Have Been The Roses was the first song i heard after Jerry passed (in was on the cassette in my car at the time driving home from work), so that song has always had a special place in my heart since.

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Submitted by DeadVikes on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 11:24

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That is right, my mistake. How can I forget that? That was Strider's pick.

Let's do the 76 show(s), Dave's 18 next week.

Wow, 74 is good!

Be well folks.

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Submitted by bolo24 on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 11:29

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Thanks - made my day!

Although I'm a little creeped out as it appears you've been stalking me for quite some time.

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Submitted by Dennis on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 12:01

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Not stalking, watching your back.

Vguy
>>>>Was at this show. People got struck by lightning in the lot. Good times.

Maybe needed a little something more before "Good times".
…...so besides that Mrs. Lincoln.....

PS - on the plus side most of us HAVE been struck by lightning on the inside! Lazy or otherwise.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 12:32

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Sting was on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno back in the 90s when Leno commented about Sting opening for the Dead in the next couple days in Vegas. “It’s amazing how the Grateful Dead control the weather, every time they play there’s a cloud above the audience”.

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 13:03

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I was listening as this is a fifty year anniversary. Any acoustic Dead is rarified.
I only saw the Dead once in Nevada, the two days in April 91. Santana was awesome as a double bill. The jam with Carlos during Bird Song the second day stands out as a high point.
I used to have all my shows listed here on Dead.net when they mysteriously disappeared a year ago or so. Lucky I have my own record marked in the 50th year Dead Base that came out somewhat recent.

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Submitted by The Good Ole G… on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 14:07

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Started out the day making a 50th Anniversary compilation of 5/14/70 and then devouring it!!

RECIPE:
Just grab some bread and slap in shnid=34165 Acoustic SBD, shnid=136645 Electric SBD & Road Trips Vol 3.3 Bonus Disc and JAM! It's super Tasty and I highly recommend it.

Just about to head into some 5/14/74 WRS... Donna's double Yowl at the end of PITB startled me, I wasn't expecting two!

Looking forward to 5/15/70 tomorrow, only in Grateful Dead land would 5/14/70 be an average show..

What a Year, What a Show, What a Band!

Be Well All

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Submitted by itsburnsy on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 14:17

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I was at the Vegas show when people got struck. I was also at RFK '95 when some heads got struck (hanging out under a tree of all places). Coincidently, I was struck by lightning in 1975, so the whole thing really freaked my parents out! Not a fun experience people, but to this day it doesn't scare me at all.

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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 17:03

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They have fixed the shows attended feature. You can update those in your profile, provided you are able to remember. (Would be tough for me, if it were more than one show...lol)

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 05/14/2020 - 22:06

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....of the Big Sky Dark Star is when things start to get....dark. Three minutes later, it's a jazzy primordial ooze. 1974 doesn't fuck around.
And that China Doll 🥰

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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Fri, 05/15/2020 - 05:26

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I love the Montana recording. I lived a few years in Montana starting in 1975. The University of Montana student newspaper the Kaiman ran a full page piece titled “we asked the Grateful Dead what they think about playing in Montana”. It had a photograph of mostly the roadies giving the finger to the camera.