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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • rockthing
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    DeadVikes > 11/30/80: Pretty…

    DeadVikes > 11/30/80: Pretty sure I have not heard that, which makes it as good a choice as any.

    I've never managed to snare any of the Dave's Picks and with inflation and ultra weak Yen the way it is, I'm less and less likely to have anything physical imported from halfway around the world.

    I'm more than happy to have a dig through the Archive now that I've got a little time on my hands, but the closest I can come in 1980 with something in my actual collection is the Alaska Summer Solstice gig, which I listen to pretty regularly. Scratch that, I just discovered a 10/19/80 Stankiewicz data set that I've never unpacked.

    I have 9/2/80 favorited for some reason, but I don't think I've actually listened to it. I mean, I've listend to Reckoning to death, but, perhaps, consequently have not sought out many of the shows from that run. Digging in to Europe 72 may change my mind on that matter.

    I think this show is super well-known, but I'm a big fan of the 8/4/74... sorry, 8/6 Roosevelt Stadium gig. I have had a partial board on cassette from some sort of trade back in the day, but I think the Neil Merin audience reel is the way to go with a big outdoor Wall of Sound gig like that. Some of the conversations are pretty hilarious, but it also does a good job of showing how well the WoS cut through with clarity. Shnid 5914 fwiw... sbefail, but who's burning CDs?!

    > RE: Family Dog At The Great Highway, August 3 1969

    Thank you for that! That IS weird. They really were on the edge of adhesion, and quite frequently breaking free. The violin and sax timbres and harmonies really add something unusual, and completely foreign to the Dead's sound, but are amazingly on. They may be more on than Mickey! lol. The rhythm section really seems to come close to falling apart on a number of occasions when it's not "supposed" to be space or drums. It sounds like they're struggling to come to terms with the return to more trad material, having not yet figured out how to leave the all-out-madness approach of the progressive repertoire out of those numbers yet. Jerry croons on as if nothing is happening. lol. Fascinating listen, and one I hope to revisit soon. I just noticed that I have it on an old HD from my torrenting days, so that's gonna hafta get Metadata ID'ed up and on the ipod soon so I can get into it in the car. The Dead are the only thing that make a brutal commute "Bear"-able. As you say, brilliantly odd performance.

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    Good to hear from you Rockthing, it has been a while.

    Any picks for today?

    If nothing surfaces, I may have to pull up Dave's #8, 11/30/1980.

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    Hey, y'all. Where has the time gone!

    I'll spare you my usual Joycean brevity today with just a couple of short remarks and a question.

    Forensicdoceleven > That sounds right up my alley!

    Oroborous > By chance, I've been listening to a lot of that Rotterdam '72 show lately too. Mega Dark Star, and just all around good stuff. Not sure why someone thought that the drum solo needed to be separated from Dark Star, though, and Dark Star split into two tracks. It sounds like Phil wants to play Bird Song toward the end, but gets denied. Then it seems like he's the one who first hints at Caution, and this time everyone agrees. Great stuff. There seem to be lots of teasing going on in various jams.

    The 50th anniversary of Europe '72 has had me digging deeper into the Euro 72 tour. I've got One More Saturday Night on the brain! For some reason the Dusseldorf 4/24/72 rendition got me more excited than usual. Really tight, high energy, without going Hy Hy Hyyyy Hysterical.

    I guess you guys mostly stream the SBDs, but does anyone who DLs AUDs have any recomendations for an ID Tag/Metadata editor?

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    Hey rockers!

    Pick Of The Day: Family Dog At The Great Highway, August 3 1969

    Do I hear a violin? A saxophone? I think what I hear is loosely organized pandemonium……………or magic…………

    If you’re a fan of deadweirdnesses, as I am, this one might be for you. The Hard To Handle opener doesn’t quite gel. On High Heeled Sneakers the band & guests channel their twisted stoner inner garage band. High Time and Mama Tried sound quasi-embyronic. The Dark Star is stand-alone, saxy, tasty, and for the time, not bad at all. What follows is a short Alligator, percussive interlude, a propulsive, saxy, violinesque Other One, and a very decent Caution (which gets very weird about half way through). The festivities are gently concluded with And We Bid You Goodnight……

    Musically, for the Grateful Dead the Summer of 1969 was uneven, to say the least. Highs, lows, and everything in between. Miller’s remaster is actually pretty listenable. Dare to indulge!

    Every weird thing about you is beautiful and makes life interesting.

    Rock on,

    Doc
    The world is a crazy, beautiful, ugly complicated place, and it keeps moving on from crisis to strangeness to beauty to weirdness to tragedy…..

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    NOD is a happy show.

    PITB -> UJB...check out 5/21/82.

    92: I had cassettes of 2/24/92 which has a good setlist, but the cassettes are elsewhere now. C'est la vie.

    6/20/92 has the great Space into CASEY JONES (HOOONK HOOONK!!!)

    which they follow up with...Throwin' Stones. sigh.

    6/28/92 is pretty good, as I recall from the cassettes.

    Someday I'll mine the 92 seam of GD

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    I enjoyed this show and was surprised how much. I probably need to listen to more 92. Sound quality of the recording is A+ to my ears. Cold Rain and Snow, Wang Dang Doodle, FOTD and Maggie's Farm were highlights of the first set. Enjoyed the second set Corrina, Crazy Fingers Playing, UJB. Vince with Baba O'Reilly.
    Thanks for the nudge to this show OB.
    Still no #43 for me, however I received a shipping notice last night from this site.

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    I always liked this release, and so you pulled me down the rabbit hole before I finished 11/7/69. First world problems.

    Funny.. to me, there's two separate Playin' > UJB > Whatever Sammy's , pre-hiatus and post-hiatus. Like fraternal twins, I do not love one more than the other, there are similarities but are very different and wonderful in their own way. The pre-hiatus shows have the trippier, unpredictable on the edge of magic drive and the post hiatus often have a harder driving, freight train powerhouse feel.

    This one starts with the famous Dark Star and weaves the entire second set into a PITB>UJB Sandwich. It is a little tighter and faster than many with some innovative midi. A really fun second set plus a tight first set (exception maybe Half Step?).

    Anyway, I remember that laser disc effort So Far where they attempted UJB>PITB>Terrapin. They went for it and to me they just never got the spicy mustard, more of a warm mayo that was left out in the sun too long.. It was recorded in I think late '85 and they just were not on the same page. There are a bunch in 89 that achieved liftoff, this one is interesting. I was reading the reviews on the Archive and one poster commented they were "a band on a mission" that night. It might not be the best of the year, but I always thought was a solid effort.

    Coincidentally, I grabbed a random waterproof ipod off the shelf for a day on the river this morning and hit play in the warmup rapids.. I never know what's on these devices, they have no screen so it's a great mystery. It picked up about halfway through the Morning Dew from 10/12/84 Augusta. After the song ended, I rewound and started the sequence over beginning with Don't Need Love>False Start PITB>Let's do UJB Instead>Drums>Space>PITB>UJB Reprise>Morning Dew. This one had the Spicy Mustard.

    That's all I got.. as you were.

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    11/7/69, phew, getting me itchin for 43!

    10/16/89: I’ve always thought this was one of the best releases they put out but it seems to get no love?
    Whatevs, to each the ur own. I love the song list, the audio, and the playing, all top shelf!
    When o when will we get more fall 89 multitrack goodness?

    6/20/92: another nice 92 surprise! Still think 6/8 and 6/22 are the ones to beat, but this tour is perhaps underrated!
    Check it out, it’s a fun show. Sorry to plow ahead, just trying to get my fix in where/when I can since little to no tunes at work currently : (

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    Nice show. Sound quality was decent for 69. Thanks OB.

    92, you say, okay, I will give it a go later. Just finishing 10/16/89. Haven't listened to this show in a while. Still delivers and a great release from something like 20 years ago. Need to listen to this one more often.

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    No pick and no 43 in the PO Box : ( so palate cleanse with 6/20/92…

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Jerry's vocals here are so smooth and pure. Sometimes, I love hoarse and gravelly vocals on this tune ( I love the Augusta 10/12/84). But this one is sweet.
It's amazing how well Keith's electric keys fit in here. He was truly one of a kind.

That was awesome!

I'll save you the blow by blow as you'll all be feeling them... and they feel good.

RE: ORO - Ha ha, if the outing by Jimbo you speak of is Geeking Out majorly over the Grateful Dead.. then I'm afraid we've all been outed.
If it's something else to do with being a bot or a spy, then I'll let you, BOLO24 & JIMINMD keep rolling with that..
But yes, Here's to GD Geeks!

RE: ALL - Thanks for all your input yesterday on how you roll this fabulous music, I was too lazy & long winded to respond to each direct, but seriously good input and a lot to take away. ICECRMCNKD that's some next level backing up, you're hardcore, Impressive! ORO: Networking info, wow just wow! Like JIMINMD read it all, understood some. Glad to know you all. I'm not going to let this info go to waste and will continue to refer to it as needed.

This all put it into perspective... I'm NOT the only one who spends untold amounts of hours pouring over this stuff, collecting and perfecting and loving it!

Glad to be one of the many!
Keep on Rockin'

PS - JIMINMD - I think you're right about that fatty / bowl :) Hampton '87 might need some love one of these days!

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I really enjoyed listening to this. A consistently great show, from the first track, through to the last. I like the way the opening trio of songs are the same ones that open the Blues For Allah album, and the last track is the one that closes it. It feels like the whole show is encased withn the vibe of that album.
In many ways, its quite a strange show-unique. The fact that it is consistently great means that their are less peaks and troughs than in a lot of shows. It sounds almost choreographed - no rough edges at all. As Gollum says, the singing is excellent. I would single out Crazy Fingers in that respect - beautifully sung and played.

I listened to my vinyl copy of this, which sounds great. I wonder if a single show from the 76 box will come out on vinyl ? I am not getting the box, but I would go for that.

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What a great show from start to finish, heck I'd put it in my top 15 Dead shows of all time, it really swings.

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Just listen to one anniversary song if you have time. Playing in the Band 5/21/74 HEC Edmundson Pavilion... part of the Pacific Northwest Box... Longest Playing ever... bob t

ha.. I just did.

Had a nice 47 min soak in the tub to wash away the stress (etc.) from grocery shopping. Lossless, wireless Sennheiser's in tow.

Tomorrow might just be Portland '74.. one of my favorite China Riders.

I guess I need to be more faithful to the show of the day. Working on that.

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..and another BobT Shoutout.. is that PITB from the bonus disc from Jai Alai Fronton. I listened to that one soaking last night.

Both are holy shit good. It's no wonder I have a hard time conforming to the show a day play.

I might just prefer Jai Alai, so jazzy.. not a wasted note anywhere and not a note or chord too much. Notes, scales, chords and weirdness were performed exactly as needed.

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I was always a big fan of Milkin the Turkey. The first release! So good. Definitely short, but stellar. Is it the first analog digital digital CD?

And how about a Blues for Allah encore! When I was a young pup I always had an infinity for the Blues for Allah release. It was so different. I even had the Blues for Allah tapestry. I think it finally met its demise in the late 2000s. Should have held on to it.

Thanks again Oroborous! I have a lot of work to do.
What's on tap for tomorrow?

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Sounds like a good one, to kick off this weekend, the "unofficial start of summer".

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I'm in. Starting... Now.

10/19/73 came up on the Dave's Picks page.. I don't think we covered that one yet.. did we? If not.. we might slide that into the queue sometime over the next few weeks.

Great energy on this thread since day 1.. thanks to all of you and Bolo too.

First Official Recordings from the Lost Betty Boards seems fitting with Betty cued up for the AMA tonight.

Wish Betty would do a Shakedown Stream Pre-Show... that would be cool.

Good Pick Bob T!

I was on the fence of suggesting either:
9/27/72 DiP V11
10/19/73 DiP V19
But kept quite to see who else might have some input.

So I second a review of 10/19/73 soon!

And 9/27/72 is looking mighty good too.

Happy Friday Everyone!

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....today's choice is mucho excellente. I'm in. At work today, so trying to locate a good sounding version. Looks like there's only two out there. Both Wagner recordings.
edit. recordings sound ok, but I was spoiled by the 78 Box. Will listen at home tonight after Betty's AMA on Reddit.

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... what a gem! Agree with VGuy (and many others here,) first listen to this show was a hell of a nice surprise! Still my favorite of this beauty of a little box, which also happens to be my favorite 78 release - so I suppose that makes this show my favorite 78 so far.

Two discs of pure GD gold - all killer, no filler!

Peace

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Spent a lot of time there....suppose I'm obligated.

Loudest stadium in the country! I'm in!!!

KCJ

Edit: Loudest as long as there are people in it ☹️

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....are you still at your same address? Gotta mail you some local brews and a keychain/bottle opener to make good on our SuperBowl bet.

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Saw a couple shows there a few years ago, most notably Leftover Salmon. Fun show to catch if they show up near your town, btw. Anyway, H>S>F from One From The Vault was played during the set breaks, much to the delight of the assembled crowd.

On to Arrowhead and some good ol' KC BBQ courtesy of Willie and friends.

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Looking back now, remember all we had of the first 3 shows, Kansas City, Omaha, and St. Paul were audience tapes, never on my radar at all. 7/7 and 7/8 were widely circulated in tape trading days... Jimin MD we are on the same wave length with last nights 5/21/74 Playing, and when I was climbing the walls this morning I almost said 10/19/73, (I love the wheat field and sky on the cover!!!!) If you get a second, I never realized the Willie Nelson picnics had such a long history before and after!!! Doing yard work right now, on Big River, hope my neighbors enjoy this concert, because I am.... bob t

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About ready to have some myself...burnt end platter...yum! Same address Vguy, I’m not going anywhere soon! looking forward to those beers!!!

Is anyone familiar with Willy’s son Lukas? I just picked up his new vinyl, Turn Off the News And Build A Garden....good stuff!

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KCJanes has moved to Maryland. I am sending his new address via PM.

Edit: Heads-up.

In looking through the previous posts, it's obvious his previous account here was hacked, probably by a grifter, beer guzzling ex-neighbor who collects plundered bottle openers. Be careful with your passwords folks, this stuff happens all the time.

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...perhaps my love for this show was bolstered by the uniqueness of hearing it for the first time, the overall great SQ, and the excitement of it being the first show in a shiny new box.

I have listened to this show a number of times in the past, but this time through, I am seeming to notice a lot more of the "warts" than I have previously. "Bertha" starts strong, and the playing on "Good Lovin'" is hot, especially the end - but the singing is all over the place on that one. Not terrible, but just off. Donna has a number of miscues throughout the show, off-key clams, which I thought were pretty rare after hiatus. "Tenn Jed" is good, and "Jack Straw" is powerful, despite a few minor miscues. "FOTD" sounds flat and out of tune to these ears - "MAMU>Big River" is good and peppy.

I think I really noticed the "off" quality of this show during "Terrapin"... Jerry seems kind of lost and there doesn't seem to be a lot of "inspiration" to move him or the band brightly through this one...

"Playin" through the end is great though, and this is what I remember the most about this show. What are they saying right after "Drums"? Something about how "they set it up backwards..." then the crazy laughing/hooting/creepyness that goes on throughout the "Space" is awesome - must have been weird for a lot of folks there to see some good ol' boy country. "Estimated" is a high point, and "The Other One" is 78 power... "Wharf Rat" and the double shot of Berry to close it all out is hot, and in the end, they managed to pull out a good set, in spite of themselves.

I really do think that 78 is the most hit-or-miss year of the 70s.

An Ok, but somewhat mediocre disc one, HOT disc two (save that "Terrapin.") I still love a lot of what is here, but I think I am going to have to reevaluate this show as both my favorite release from 78, and even as my favorite of this box. Official score: 7 / 10. Kind of sad, but I suppose people change...

It was a fun listen anyway! What's on tap for tomorrow?

Peace

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A great box set . Arrowhead Stadium is a fun one long set. Any time the Dead could share the stage with Willie Nelson would have been Americana at its best before Americana became a hip term for a broad music genera .

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I am really enjoying this first set! On "Deal" now, and overall, I think this is a better disc than Arrowhead disc 1. I'd forgotten about the hilarious mess-up in "Mexicali" and how damn awesome this "Peggy-O" is!

I just may work my way through this whole box over the weekend, along with the Show of the Day (of course :)

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Lukas' band is Promise of the Real, they are fantastic. They played with Neil Young for a tour or two, missed that one, but have seen them live and they can really jam. All of their albums are good, but the first Lukas Nelson & Promise of the Real is the best one for sure. Catch them live next time you can.

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The thing I love most about this show is how it just SOUNDS like a hot sunny stadium show in Kansas City. I can imagine the KC BBQ, warm beer, and sweaty hippies packed liked sardines. Man, that all sounds good right now. I agree the show really starts to pay off in the Playin jam. This jam sounds louder and more aggressive than the sublime one from Dick's18 just a few months earlier, but vive la difference. Now I'm into the weird Space, hoping for a gentle "come down" by the end but who knows?....

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Welcome to the rock and roll barbecue. Can you imagine. The Dead as the opening act for Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson. Imagine if you were there for the country music and you saw these band playing Terrapin Station and then later the Other One? And I agree with Otis, this Terrapin is no 77 Terrapin, not smooth, but still a great show.

I still love listening to all these shows. They are all different.

Be well folks!

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Good stuff, good stuff.

You all wanna dig in to some 10/19/73 tomorrow?

VGUY72 - I see you over there asking Betty questions on Reddit... I hope she gets to it, seems like she's trying to answer them all. I decided to throw one in too, fingers x'd.

How cool is Betty Cantor-Jackson?

I'd say Way Cool!

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Ever since Fall out from The Phil Zone, i love this song... my emotions go crazy, happy.... sad..... you name it, especially at 1:20 in the morning over served!!!! Looking forward to Oklahoma City in the morning... Mind Left Body Jam is great!!! Good night all, be safe...bob t

....she didn't answer me. Yet. She answered some good questions. In Arrowhead Space currently. Seguing into Prophet. Nice.
Told ya I'd get caught up.....

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....Weir yells, "Easy now, easy". He followed that up the next show during the Mexicali stumble, "paying attention". Then they dare to follow up a raging Mama Tried w/ a Peggy-O?
I concur.

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*Complete Setlist- Primo!
*Disk #1
First set:
"Promised Land" (Chuck Berry) – 3:44
"Sugaree" (Jerry Garcia, Robert Hunter) – 8:18
"Mexicali Blues" (Bob Weir, John Barlow) – 3:58
"Tennessee Jed" (Garcia, Hunter) – 8:00
"Looks like Rain" (Weir, Barlow) – 8:05
"Don't Ease Me In" (traditional, arranged by Grateful Dead) – 4:24
"Jack Straw" (Weir, Hunter) – 5:32
"They Love Each Other" (Garcia, Hunter) – 5:44
"El Paso" (Marty Robbins) – 4:51
"Row Jimmy" (Garcia, Hunter) – 9:23

*Disc two
"Playing in the Band" (Weir, Mickey Hart, Hunter) – 18:23
Second set:
"China Cat Sunflower" (Garcia, Hunter) – 9:11 >
"I Know You Rider" (traditional, arranged by Grateful Dead) – 6:18
"Me and My Uncle" (John Phillips) – 3:34
"Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo" (Garcia, Hunter) – 7:30
"Big River" (Johnny Cash) – 4:52

*Disc three
"Dark Star" (Garcia, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Ron "Pigpen" McKernan, Weir, Hunter) – 15:45 >
"Mind Left Body Jam" (Grateful Dead) – 10:41 >
"Morning Dew" (Bonnie Dobson, Tim Rose) – 13:55
"Sugar Magnolia" (Weir, Hunter) – 10:10
First encore:
"Eyes of the World" (Garcia, Hunter) – 14:31 >
"Stella Blue" (Garcia, Hunter) – 7:57
Second encore:
"Johnny B. Goode" (Berry) – 4:08

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I will freely admit I only hunt and peck out bits and pieces of these picks of the day. It takes a real commitment to pound out a show every day. (commitment or committed?)

Also, unlike most, I don't know if I ever listened fully to my first show. My first show was 4/1/80 - Capitol Theatre. This is the show where they all came out behind different instruments at the start of the show.

Had it playing in the car yesterday, got to He's Gone. I floating along thinking this is a GREAT recording. It hit about 20 seconds of patch in the middle lyrics (audience) and I'm thinking it's one of the patches that everyone talked about. All through He's Gone I'm thinking I'm listening to a Dave's the sound was so good. Then I look at the dash and see the show date and remember I was listening to my first show.

I wish I knew more when I saw this show, but I was new to everything. The Capitol only held about 3k people.

So maybe try 4/1/80. Shakedown encore!

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Yes, nice call. I haven't appreciated this show as much as others in these forums and I'm sure it's just an oversight! 9/27/72 was also mentioned- that may be a keen idea. Surely that show is as great as the more celebrated 9/21/72? (Dick picked it a lot earlier!)
Spitballing:
*Winterland 6/8/77 Lemieux sez top 10 of 1977, 19 min. Eyes
*Cape Cod 10/27/79 Lemieux gives shoutout in Dave's 34 blurb
*Boise 9/2/83 unfairly maligned!
Just some ideas. We do have a whole Memorial Day weekend and there are no rules, right?

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Probably committed Dennis, but who would take us?? First show 4/1/1980. That is cool, one of my favorite Grateful Dead years, and not represented well at all with official releases. Did you make to any of the fall 1980 shows?

Holy shit Gollum, not one pick from you but three. All good ideas, but I will leave it up to the Committee. Always loved the Winterland 77 June shows.

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Listening to Dark Star 30 minute jam right now. Dicks Pick #11 is so good. Terrific concert and Great for Saturday morning.

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Let's go with Gollum's Cape Cod choice of 10/27/79.... Since we can't go to the Cape, and if you have an Orange or Yellow license plate our Rhode Island law enforcement is going to give you grief!! We can celebrate vicariously through this show!!! Lobsters, steamers, clams, corn, not included!!! bob t

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The Midwest leg of the fall tour of 73 looks super high energy. Was living in Kansas City that fall going to the Art Institute. Pre-internet , had nary a clue they were playing all around Kansas City within a few hours drive . I did see the them four times in the spring of 73.
One of my favorite Dicks Picks. Incredible Dark Star. Already sounding different from 1972 versions. All and all an amazing Grateful Dead concert from the heartland of America in 1973. Bet it wasn’t sold out either.

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We may have a quorum for the Cape cod?!! BobT - love the food/location carryover. We move from KC BBQ to a New England Clambake. Cape Cod sounds like a paradise.

I guess we don't have any foods to go with poor Oklahoma, but yeah, it really is the American heartland and the music is exquisite. I've spun the Playin' and Dark Star a couple of times today (so far).....