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April 6, 2020 - 9:47am

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marye

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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May 21, 2020 - 9:50am

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Oroborous

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Net reply, V1, and outed by Jimbo!

Dammit Jim, now my secret is out....part of why they put me in that dog getup, easier to contain!

VAULT 1: what GOGD said “Thanks UA & Rackow: yeah, I member all the excitement when the first stuff started trickling out, and the quality, Oy! Funny now how we critique many of the earlier generation releases now, but back then it was like gettin some when you were young!

DEADVIKES: if you have the wire in your house, id try just hardwiring stuff and adding a net switch. That shouldn’t cost you that much and it should help. Later you can always upgrade the other components if you want, but hardwiring stuff will help with any application. (To see what wire you have find your phone distribution point. There should be a at least one wire per room. If there is several of the same type, it should be marked on the side. If it’s cat 5 or better your good to go.

Ok, now time to fire up 8/13/75!
May 21, 2020 - 8:33am

#7152

The Good Ole G…

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King Solomon's Marbles > Stronger Than Dirt

What a First Set!!

Can only imagine what it was like to see this band back then, literally :)

That's gotta be up there with greatest ever Set 1.. if there is such a thing
EDIT: Forgot 3/2/69 in my excitement.. so never mind the "greatest ever" language, Great Set 1!
May 21, 2020 - 7:39am

#7153

The Good Ole G…

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I Think We Should Thank United Artist & Mr. Ron Rakow

Sleigh Bells Ring, are you listening?

I can still remember how excited I was when they announced One From The Vault

When I got the 2 CD set (which is next to me and has very small print that I can barely read now, but no "Disc Rot";) and listened to the music contained within it was a revelation:

This show is amazing! And it's complete and sounds incredible! This is how it could be! This could change everything! I could get all the shows sounding like this! They might release like a show a month or something! It's going to be off the hook! How will I afford it all?!?!

1991 the flood gates opened
with a trickle..

pretty cool

PS -
The Sleigh Bells in Slipknot!
The Harmonies in The Music Never Stopped..
Oh Boy!
I love this show:)

Be Well All, got some Fun Listening to do today.
May 21, 2020 - 5:57am

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Dennis

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Make Believe Ballroom

Was a radio show for many years on WNEW radio NY. I gather it started about 1935, movie was made under that title in 49. Steve Allen ran the show for a while also.

Goog the name. The things we can learn here.
May 21, 2020 - 3:27am

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bob t

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8/13/75 great choice

This tape is what pulled me in. It's interesting if you have ever heard the full intro, where Bill Graham talks about Ron Rakow and his bet with him that he was being paid 50$. It is right after, "We welcome you on behalf of the group".... After listening to the intro version of one from the vault and what I had on my Make Believe Ballroom tape, it just sounds weird because the intro is awesome!! bob t
May 21, 2020 - 1:49am

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daverock

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8/13/75 on the radio

An hour of this show was broadcast on British radio sometime late in 1975. Consequently, my first Dead tape.
May 20, 2020 - 10:34pm

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The Good Ole G…

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Make Believe Ballroom

Good stuff!

JIMINMD - Make Believe Ballroom pretty “famous” early bootleg record of 8/13/75 from the Amazing Kornyfone Record Label.

I think they fetch a pretty penny from collectors these days.

Cool info here - http://www.gratefulseconds.com/2018/02/?m=1

Fun Discussions tonight all.

Good info and Good tunes tomorrow.

Until then be well
May 20, 2020 - 10:07pm

#7158

DeadVikes

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8/13/75

Yes, this is the ticket for tomorrow.

Oroborous, appreciate the information.

Sounds like I am not in the league of your customers, which is okay. I am more of the pub links player. Anyway, at a minimum it sounds like I should invest in a new router and modem with the extra Wifi connections around the house.

Do you wonder why I like the old school wired system playing CDs.

Do you know how much time I have spent on the phone with Sonos customer service??
May 20, 2020 - 9:05pm

#7159

JimInMD

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Ha.. Re: Net Wiring

Aren't we all geeks in our own way? I couldn't help but read that whole post, much of it lost on me.

But it lead me to a conclusion. Correct.. Oro, you are not an IT professional. ..but perhaps a bot. not a Russian Bot or a Facebook Bot.. our own SF peace bot.

I mean that in the most respectful way, hope I did not offend. In a way, Oroborous.. you are all we have in our freak fight against the tyrannists and enemies. We need our own bot.

Sorry for the diversion. Again, meant with the utmost respect and hopefully a perceived tread of good nature and humor.

Cousins, thanks for that info.. So that's the source of that language on my tape. Does anyone know the source? The Great American Music Hall is not called the Make Believe Ballroom, right? Was this just a clever name for a bootleg LP to get it past the TM and Copyright folks? There must be another half of this story.

I guess it doesn't matter if we don't solve this riddle, but how on earth did that LP get it's name?

Nite all.
May 20, 2020 - 7:48pm

#7160

Oroborous

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Re: Deadvikes/net wiring

To those not interested, please skip and except my apologies

First, disclaimer: I am not a IT, computer, or network professional, in fact, when it comes to computers I’m way behind the curve. That being said, I am a custom AV professional which usually requires installing commercial grade networks in the home. I’ve done hundreds over the years. So I have a lot of experience using many AV products both wireless and hard wired. Why, because when you have home automation, Lighting, HVAC, Pool/spas, Security, AV, gaming, WiFi and more on one home network that’s a lot of bandwidth, no matter how many MBS/gigs your paying for. Your network is the foundation that all your net gear lives and depends on. You wouldn’t build your house on a cardboard foundation so you shouldn’t build your network on a insufficient one either!
SONOS: you are correct that one of the main selling points for Sonos or any of the “wireless” audio products is reasonable stability over WiFi (of course always depending on service. Just like your water main the pipe is only so big)...the biggest of all reasons Sonos is ahead of the pack is their user interface. So with decent service you can certainly enjoy over WiFi, but like you mentioned if everyone is on line at the same time it’s like having every water facet and toilet going at once...,the pipe is only so big...streaming of course is the biggest drain of all.
I won’t get all in on the phsycics, and I’d probably do a lousy job, but generally, a properly hardwired connection is going to be better: faster, less latency, more BW, and certainly more stable/reliable. I’ve seen situations where the IT guy had me disconnect a HW feed and use a meshed WAP, but that’s mostly because the WiFi gear was new, robust, and of course somewhat oversold lol. The wiring and switches were ancient crap....I may have been trying to use only four conductors which limits you to only 10/100. But that’s only happened a few times in 13 years!
By comparison our nets are at least 1-5 gig capable, but our bigger new jobs have been 10 gig to try and future proof (as much as that’s possible anymore). Often these start getting into fiber, But I digress...
Also, even if it’s not that time of day when the whole neighborhood is sucking on basically the same pipe, I’m sure you’ve still experienced huge speed drops, latency, and even severe buffering etc when the whole family is using all those wireless devices. So the more things you can take off WiFi and hardwire, the more those HW devices will benefit from the “bigger pipe” that the wire usually provides, but at the same time, the devices that are still over WiFi will also work better because removing streaming devices off essentially provides “more pipe” for the remaining WiFi devices.
It’s all about the pipe baby: bigger, faster, stronger...
The last job I was on before the VID was over 10K Square foot house. It has Comcast gig plus service, using an upgraded surfboard modem, 4 port commercial Router, 4- 48 port Poe switches, Ruckus Zone Director to air traffic control bandwidth where need via the 16 commercial grade Ruckus WAPs (all hardwired on cat five or better). All critical infrastructure gear is on Bluebolts for remote ip monitoring and rebooting.
Besides the 16 Crestron hardwired touchscreens, there are probably a dozen iPads for control of all house subsystems. The 20+ cameras are now all nest over wifi which is a huge bandwidth drain, but that’s what the owner wanted. Throw in all the personal devices of the owners and up to 15 guests, and six in house servants and five large equipment racks of gear (even amplifiers now are ip controlled) and that’s a shit ton of bandwidth. A normal home network would not function!
Obviously I assume most folks don’t have those needs, but the infrastructure methodology is the same.

So for a “typical” house (there is no such thing but for simplicity)
- Best pipe (service) you can get. Preferably on fiber or Coax if possible.
- Buy your own upgraded modem. For a couple hundred bucks that you’ll make up by not renting one.
- Research and get best Router you can
- Use strategic placement of WAPs over full cat 5 or better. Six is the norm, but we sometimes pull cat 7, 8, and/or fiber.
This depends on how many floors, walls, building materials etc, square footage. Like much of this too much is better than not enough. Think brick shithouse from BITD...
Usually the cat for your phones all homerun back to your headend or main distribution point. Depending on where that is and if there’s adequate power nearby, you can place all your gear there, or if possible, place a robust net switch there. Obviously for switch size you’ll need to figure out how many devices you’ll want to H.W. depending on how May wires you have. It’s usualky much easier to have at least enough Poe ports to power WAPs (make sure you’ll have enough wattage). You can find all kinds of wall trim to terminate similar to how your phone or net are trimmed on your walls, or if long enough wire just terminate RJ 45 etc. You’ll need to terminate all the ends at the net switch. A decent cable tester is a real help to ensure proper terminations. Inevitably you’ll need to test from end to end using all wires and splices/connections.
So you have your service feed to your modem, a net cabl from modem to router, router to your switch or switches, and your WAPs hardwired to your switch (s). If done properly using good gear (find gear with specks way above what you think you need, it can be money well spent, remember, your trying to build a brick shithouse, not a cheap tent! ), you can make your network more robust, stable and therefore enjoyable! It’s like buying a car with a big engine, you don’t akways need it but when you do and you put the hammer down, you’ll be glad you have that headroom.
Obviously many folks dont need so much, but even a additional switch with hardwired devices out of your provider modem can help when supply is getting stretched thin.
No matter how big or small or what your needs are, always hardwire when possible! That’s what I’ve found works best, cause it’s all about the pipe!
Hope this is understandable and helps. Sorry if I didn’t explain well.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

That Spectrum Show

I always liked that Spectrum show. It got beat up when released for sound quality, but for the era, it sounds quite good compared to most of the rest. I think it sounds better than the RT 1.1 a mix, but a lot from the Spectrum 79 run.

It's a cool little show and one of my early cassettes. It's got a short and potent TOO into a soulful Morning Dew. In 82, to my ears, Jerry could still deliver those mournful, soul-felt lyrics. On a good night in 82 his voice still sounded fresh. This might be the last year that was true, but I certainly liked the way he sang in the later years too. Visions and She Belongs to Me comes to mind.

Anyhow.. cheerio folks.. have a great night. Play your favorite show like it's 1999.

Edit: I am partial to 4/19/82 and 4/9/83 from that era, but I am biased.

4/19/82

Wooooohoooo, we neeeeeeeddddddddd MOR-R-R-R-Reee nitrous!

4.19.82....

....the laughing gas show. On it.
Spoiler alert. They play Cumberland.

Nice Little Peggy-O too

Probably not the next show to get released.. but a nice little ditty.

Got To Have

“Maybe things don’t feel so good, you know what that’s all about.

It’s kinda like that in the world today things have fallin’ just kinda ill.

But listen there’s something you can do about it. You and me can do about it.

Cause we’re gonna change it, we’re gonna make it happen. Nobody else is gonna do it.

Listen deep down inside you got a light, turn it on, let it get stronger, let it get bright. And leave it on, that’s right.

Got to have Good Love.”

Bob - 4/19/82

Is it Bob laughing? Sounding pretty maniacal there Bobby!

More Nitrous..

Lovin’ April ‘82 this weekend.

Tomorrow's Pick

How about 9/24/76 to start our Monday. Dave's Picks #4, College of William & Mary.

Looking for a way back to some sort of normal. Not sure when that comes.
In the meantime, this wonderful pick deserves a spin.

9/24/76

This sounds like a very promising pick for tomorrow. I just rewatched Dave's excellent seaside chat. Very promising, indeed...

Bicentennial Dead

9/24/76 DaP V4

Nice call on the Seaside Chat Gollum, I'm pumped for some jams.

PITB > Supplication > PITB along with some tasty looking Blues For Allah stuff, time to revisit this puppy.

Have a Grate Day you all!

Ok I am 3 days early but, June 4, 1977 L.A. Forum

Save the date.... if this existed on soundboard!!!! We all love the Winterland run, but this show just gets ignored due to only audience tape existing!!! So Thursday of this week put this one on... and dare to dream... look at the set list... did it rot in the barn, did no one tape it, we can only dream!!!!!! bob t

Monday's Pick

And now back to your regularly scheduled programming! I won't comment on the decision to turn the site into a fundraising arm for 24 hours. They own the site and have the right to do it.

So 9/24/76, Dave's 24, was a great way to start my Monday. Different than June 76, yes, for sure. Great show, not long, but perfect for Monday. Love that Playing, Supplication. And yes, that Slipnot is a killer.

Be well folks!

Bob T 6-4-77

This looks tasty, many say top 5 show, I will have to dig this one up as I have never heard it but the set list is a good one. Thanks for the heads up

6/26/74 Providence and 6/28/74 Boston Hunter Seamons Matrix

Hunter just put up these two matrix versions of these legendary shows, for those of us that are into that sort of thing (I know I certainly am!)

6/26: https://archive.org/details/gd1974-06-26.149947.mtx.seamons.ht119.flac16
6.28: https://archive.org/details/gd1974-06-28.149954.mtx.seamons.ht120.flac16

PM me if you need any help DLing :)

Peace

Pick of the day....

I was going to suggest a certain song by N.W.A. but thought my attempt at humor might not be appreciated....and not within the boundaries of our usual decorum....
So I might swing around to 11/1/85 again as I didn’t get a full listen in and haven’t heard in forever....
Pretty soon being the 35 anniversary year of that awesome summer tour, I may dig deep into those....

Pick of the Day....

....Rage Against The Machine's first record sounded pretty good yesterday!!

Don't forget 6/4/77 L.A.Forum Audience tomorrow

Listen and pretend you have the best sound board ever!!!!.... Franklin's Tower>China Doll!!!!. be safe and good everyone, bob t

All right China Doll is close to Comes a Time for 5/4/77 and 5/9/77 if there was a sound board.... last plead.... and you get a 12 minute NFA after also..... I feel like I am trying to sell Ginzu knives.... cuts threw cans and then a tomato!!!

6/4/77... pay no attention to how long the second set is!!

back in the day it did not fit on a 90 minute maxell xl II........ compare that to the rest of Spring 77... sorry last rant..... please listen if you never have tomorrow!!! bob t.... if there was a board drop the mic!!!!! check out set II set listen!!!!

Curtis Mayfield

His birthday today. Saw him in April 1973 in Phoenix, Freddie King opened.
Curtis’ song “(Don’t Worry) If there’s a hell below, We’re all going to go” is a classic. One of the most powerful live concerts I ever went to, that includes the Grateful Dead.
Eldridge Cleaver wrote in his book “Soul On Ice”and addressed the hippies saying that they were the white niggers. A white man with long hair can cut his hair and dress in plain looking clothes and blend back into society. The black man can not change the color of his skin.
I am paraphrasing but I think readers get the point.

Isn't It An Audience Tape?

I don't know Bob.. there's no SBD.

Just kidding!

Love the hype, looking forward to dusting off my moldy oldie Audience tape of 6/4/77 on it's anniversary.

Gonna go hit up 7/13/85 in the backyard, heard it's name kicked around on one of the other forums.
It's been awhile.

Be well all!

otis

6/28/74 seamons matrix.

The cover picture on that archive webpage was great. May use that for an avatar down the road!

vguy

they load the clip in omni color...

6/26/74 and 6/28/74 rock also nice......

3 hours until eastern daylight time for 6/4/77... L.A. Forum........ last warning Estimated Prophet> Eyes of the World > Good Lovin> Terrapin Station>Playin in the Band> Franklin's Tower>China Doll> Not Fad eAway

Bob T 6/4/77

Bob t, yes, we would all love an official copy of this show, that is for sure. Maybe some day? Who knows.

A wise soul sent me a copy of this show and it is extremely rough.

Maybe Rob Eaton knows?

Just think of the summer that could have been in 77 if Mickey didn't get in a car accident....

Be well folks, seems like we may be seeing some light at the end of the tunnel?

1 of 2 from ‘77

I believe DL said 6/4/77 is 1 of 2 from ‘77 that is not in the Vault.

The other 2/27/77 maybe? They have 1 reel from that show, but I don’t think that reel was in the Vault until the Betty Boards return.

Good Ole G...

I believe you are correct. 6/4/77.. one of the best shows of the year and one of the worst surviving recordings. Talk about Murphy's Law.

Murphy, turns out he was a real guy. "Named after Capt. Edward A. Murphy, an engineer working on Air Force Project MX981." (The Desert Wings March 3, 1978). The phrase was coined at Edwards Air Force Base in 1949.

Decent Audience Recording

I like the sound of this 6/4/77 Audience Recording by Rob Bertrando it’s a solid recording. And definitely good by ‘77 standards. Good separation and ambience. Digging it.

Definitely a solid show and way cool set list, almost has a mojo style jam as they head into NFA.

Thanks Rob! If you’re out there, would love to hear some of your stories.

Man can’t imagine what we’d of done without Taper’s. They were such an important part of the Dead music trading phenomenon.

Hats off to Taper’s. You all purchased gear, got tickets, traveled, smuggled, got hassled, went in early just to record the shows. And then shared them with all of us. That’s hardcore. I had a hard time just keeping track of my, ticket, party favors and mind.

So glad you made it!

Nice pick Bob T.. did you have a good anniversary trip?

Re: BobT and Good Ole G...

You're both right.. it's a crisp, great audience recording. my comment was in comparison to the rest of the year, which with a few exceptions was mostly miss Betty, and the exceptions were great recordings as well.

I didn't meant to say it sucked, more that all the other recordings were beyond exceptional.

Carry on.. just rereading shit, sometimes my words six hours later don't always match my intentions.

Back to your regularly scheduled
Terrapin Station>
Playin' In The Band>
Franklin's Tower>
China Doll>
Not Fade Away>
Playin' In The Band

RE: JIMINMD

All good, I like your input.

Glad you’re giving it a listen!
It’s a good ‘un.

Friday's Pick

We need to keep this thread going, at least I would like to see that happen. It has been a ton of fun.

I will offer up 9/18/87, which is the 87 30 trips show?

I hope at some point they give us some of the 87-90 Shoreline shows. Quite a few of those shows to pick from.

What do they think?

If you don't have it let me know.

What happened to Bolo and Conekid?

Be well folks.

9/19/87

A great show.. one of the best of the year and still in my active rotation 4 1/2 years after 30 trips... The energy coming out of the space through the rest of the show is palpable.

@ Bob T RE: 6/4/77 and Today's Pick

Hot damn! 6/4/77 is a scorcher! I have never really minded decent AUDs, and like was mentioned, this AUD is really pretty good, especially considering how long ago it was. I think it was "Candyman" in Set 1 that made me really sit-up and pay attention, then, of course, that second set is tough to beat by the standards of any era! Thanks for pointing us in that direction!

9/18/87 for today! This will be another first listen for me!

I agree with DeadVikes - let's keep this thread rolling! I have been finding a lot more solace here than on the DaP34 page, especially as of late. Also, I have always thought that it was way more fun to dig into and discuss a wide variety of shows rather than focusing on one specific era of the band. This is my favorite little corner of the internet, and I hope it doesn't dry-up any time soon.

Happy Friday, DeadLand!

Peace

Watch Me Levitate Garcia

Worth watching the Letterman appearance just to see how uncomfortable Jerry was with that trick!

Our first Official pick from 1987!

OTIS you’re in for a TREAT my friend.

I’m in and this show boils over.. gives me chicken skin just thinking about the goodness that follows space!

DEADVIKES & OTIS: Glad to hear you all are hip to keep this thread going.. felt like it might be dying. And I agree with OTIS in regards to the vibe. I peak at them other threads.. but they’re like Space sometimes they get a little tense, sometimes a little scary :)

AUDIENCE RECORDINGS:
When I know there’s NO SBD in existence at this point. I can really dig a good Audience recording. If there’s a SBD I tend to wanna go to it first. But I think you really gain a different perspective when listening to Audience tapes, and hell after all the crappy tapes I had growing up, these 1st gen Audience recordings sound better than those. And often times sound pretty damn sweet. I'm looking at you June '83.

MISSING PERSONS:
Bolo seems to pop in from time to time.

Missing: FourWindsBlow & ConeKid (Hope all is well!)

BUMP: STRIDER88 - RIP Curtis Mayfield I’m gonna have to go in the garage and find my SuperFly CD, it’s been awhile and what an amazing talent. What was the scene like at that show?

9/18/87 - Set 1

Yes, it is a 6-pack, but man-oh-man, I really enjoyed it!

For the 2nd day in a row, it is "Candyman" that is the first set winner, though I enjoyed all of the other tunes as well. "Masterpiece" is def. my fav. Bobby Weir Dylan tune, and this whole set has a lot of really strong energy.

I have a bit of a blind spot when it comes to 87, as I think that the short sets turned me off in the past. However, with the release of the Giants' Box, and some suggestions from this board and another friend, I am finding more and more about 87 that I love.

Looking forward to Set II - "Shakedown" opener - you know I love that!

Peace

Otis and GOGD

Glad to see you guys around for the ride.
87, the comeback year. Remember, Jerry had to learn how to play guitar again after the coma. What a run after the recovery.

There is a ton of great shows in 1987, were are a lucky bunch.

Yes, shorter shows for sure. Always love a Sugaree and that Birdsong is something. Looking forward to the second set.

Let's go Jim, Vguy, Oroborous, Bob t, Gollum, Mhammond!

Sound of the thunder

Damn, you’d think with all this “extra” time I wouldn’t be so damn busy....sigh, falling behind again....
Been spending a little extra time with 11/1/85. Hadn’t broke this out in forever either, hee-hee you guys have been really pulling out so many awesome chestnuts that I’ve neglected trying to keep up with all the great new stuff I’ve picked up the last couple years.
Anyway, good show, Jer drops a few clams and they seem to get a little less in sync later in, but that’s nit picking. What? 5 or 6 tunes before drums, including High Time. Always dig She Belongs to me. Used to think this was a scratch your head pick, meaning imo there are many better 85 shows, and as this is only one of 2 from this great year released, it used to puzzle me. Now, I’m glad we have at least the 2 we do....oh, the Riverbend is definitely a Boobie Dazzler. Got me psyched to go deep on 85 since it will be 35 anniversaries of some of my favorite shows attended at least). Dipped into the Frost too. Going to start on the June 90 Cali shows next couple weeks as they were my first trip to the promised land with that 20 year old in tow and ran into ole Lee Esdee for the first time in forever at Shorline. Also hung with an X at the expo 😉 GOOD TIMES, good shows. I’ll have to have a video night for the 16th.....THEN....
Then we’ll start with those legendary Greek shows to start my 85 summer adventure, but first....
Will try to sneak that 9/18/87 in this weekend as that is a solid 87 show fo sure!
Tonight looking forward to Oteil on the stream, then the awesome 7/7/89 show. Will probably pop the DVD in for the show though as it’s too hard for this old top to go that long without treats and pee breaks etc lol.
Have fun, be safe, play dead!

9.18.87....

....is that the consensus for today's listening pleasure??

RE: OROBOROUS

Don't forget to stop by Ventura for 7/13/85 & 7/14/85.. I hadn't listened to those in forever until someone mentioned them on the DaP forum and they're greeeeeat!

Some tapes just get emblazoned in your mind in those formative years and you know all the riffs & nuisances, 7/13 is like that for me.

VGUY you should be hip to that too, OMSN > FOTM opener.. love that Fire.

One of the Hawks that live in the tree across the street was soaring around during the Bird Song when I listened to it the other day. Dead Magic

Alright, got some listening to do.

Happy Friday everyone!

EDIT: VGUY - Yep 9/18/87 today.

Madison Square Garden '87....

....on it.

I'm in

Just started Hell in a Bucket. I've been listening to the '87 Giants Stadium show from the recent box and that show blows me away. Great time to revisit this one.

The Good Ole G / Curtis Mayfield

The April 1973 Curtis Mayfield concert in Phoenix was at the Celebrity Theater that has a round stage that revolves full circle. The audience was mostly African American. The feeling I got was Black Power with dignity and grace . I remember the bass player saying “power to the people means power to ALL the people”. My altered state of mind was real focused that night. Curtis Mayfield was truly a genius of soul and spirit.
Freddie King who opened for Curtis that night had quite the smile of joy as he picked a mean guitar.
Sometimes we only get one chance to see a great musician perform. Maybe that one time gives us a feeling and insight that stays with us for 50 years or more. Those two musicians did it.
JRF68 has gone fishing. A few years ago a gentleman on the boards expressed concern that he could not afford a new box set of his favorite era. JRF68 put out the call that he would help out. I threw in $20. and a couple other folks donated about the same. JRF payed the lions share. That man understands service for others. He deserves nothing less than respect.
So people go out and do something positive today , be it as simple as kind words for others.

9/18/87

just loaded onto my phone. Bird Song me!

Dignity and Grace

I always thought when I was older I'd try to stay hip to the new music... But I find myself going further and further into what has come before. 1973 Curtis Mayfield on a revolving stage at the Celebrity Theater singing power to the people.. SHeeeeaaat!

That sounds amazing.

STRIDER 88 thanks for the scoop. Man you saw some good stuff, I appreciate you sharing your stories.

Do you have all the GD shows you saw listed somewhere? I know it's a pain to list em on this here website, but I'd love to check that list out. You my friend have seen some epic shows.

And sorry to hear about JRF68, I saw some of that going down on the other board.

Alright.. I'm heading into the Chicken Skin part of this MSG show from '87.

No reason to get excited..

Hip to the new thing ?

Good old G...you should worry - I think I Iost direction with modern music somewhere in the mid 1980s. I wouldn't for a second put modern music down, but I would personally rather hear something form the 1950s/60s/70s than something recorded last week.

RE: DaveRock

Good to know I'm not alone;)

In retrospect it was the popular music of the 1980s (which was just not doing it for me) that led me to classic rock which eventually led me to the Grateful Dead, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

But when you think about an artist like Curtis Mayfield, it's hard for me to compare the type of music he was making to the popular music I hear my daughter listening to.

I fear I'm getting old.

I'm trying to keep an open mind, but...
If you ask me the music that was happening in the '60s & '70s has a certain level of quality that is hard to beat.

Alright, that all being said, I finished 9/18/87, loved it, again.
Now I'm checking out a nice upgrade of the 3/31/93 SBD from Charlie Miller.
I guess that's "modern" music and it ain't bad;)

Is it 420 yet?

9/18/87 - A New Favorite!

Yep, that show is a smoker. Really love the variety of these 80s sets. The "Shakedown" "Women Are Smarter" "Terrapin" is one hell of a way to start a set, and the post-Drums/Space portion deserves all of the accolades that it has received. I love how energized they sound throughout the whole show.

The more and more I listen, the more and more I love this band. So much to give, and they ask so little in return (save for massive amounts of our time :)

What's on tap for tomorrow? It's going to be another humid scorcher here, so I am thinking I will hole up in the AC, play some tunes, and spend most of my day reading some obnoxiously long novels. Perhaps an equally long show?

Looking forward to the Shakedown Stream tonight! Also, I hope JRF returns one day - he's a good dude and has been a friend on these boards for a long time. Perhaps he will make an appearance around these parts - a lot of the drama seems to be absent here.

Peace

EDIT: Oh, the VAST majority of music that I listen to was recorded well before I was born. Phish, The Flaming Lips, My Morning Jacket, some Wilco... a smattering of other things here and there, but mostly 50s, 60s, and 70s for me too. I think it is pretty common, at least among my group of friends.

Shakedown Stream!

Happy Friday!

9/18/87

highlights for me:
* juicy Weir guitar on Candyman, Shakedown
*in-your-face "Big Apple" style "Bird Song"
*Drums/Space - my fave part of this show (on first listen). a great night for the rhythm devils- someone (Mickey?) sez "go get em" as Jerry enters for space....

remember that "View from the Vault 4" - with 2 1987 shows? it has a Bird Song, too!

moseying over to Shakedown Stream...

9/18/87

Great show. Good to hear you all enjoyed it. That finish is something. Morning Dew, Jerry gives it his all. Good Lovin, La Bamba, Good Lovin, pretty sweet. Solid encore.

Had to pull out the liner notes from this show, DL talks about this show as the best of the year. Not sure, but it is really good. I always thought the October Shoreline shows were pretty damn good. Hey Pocky Way!

Send us a pick Otis

Hiya Folks, Hiya! How about 6/24/73?

Sorry for the delay. I got a little "too" into the Shakedown Stream last night and fell right asleep on the couch sometime during Drums/Space.

For today, how about something from the Pacific NW box? 6/24/73 Portland sound good? I've sort of lost track of where we've been, so if this is a repeat, I will offer up another suggestion.

Happy Saturday folks!

Peace

6/24/73

Yes! Great choice Otis. I was listening to the Vancouver 73 show earlier this week.

Let's do it.

Buenos Dias Rockeros!

Phew, went hard with the 7/7/89 last night. Oteil another great guest. I don’t know much about him and had never heard him speak before, so really enjoyed. Another amazing 89 show. Ok, going to have to do a double header today, both 9/18/87 and 6/24/73......that’s cool, good day for it.
A little gloomy (rain would be nice, please!....and the misses is at work since their forcing shit open way too early here. Numbers are already going back up, but hey, rich folk just HAVE to come and as Texas is currently a hot spot we’ll look forward to them bringing the plague with them as like half the state comes here for the summer...heaven forbid they couldn’t get their free DVDs and Internet, sorry, anyway its a good day to pump up the noise, ya das good!

Last time I was in step with popular music was the 70s when R&R was just as popular as “pop” music....did really enjoy much of the 90s music though. The rest, eehhhh not so much...

STRIDER: WORD!!