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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • CaseyJanes
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    WilfredT UJB

    You are correct sir about the Bm...also a Dm and Dsus2 according to Ultimate Guitar Tabs on the “Official Version”. I love the above mentioned app. Has most every song that you can think of and usually there are many versions to play so if you’re not quite getting one arrangement there is usually a way for guys like me to dumb it down a bit. That said I need to add those chords on UJB as they are in my range. Will also try the riff....I have a little pentatonic game as well! (I’m guessing there)

    For the record, and if memory serves, I do believe I’ve seen youtube of you playing WilfredT, and you are an excellent player. I’m like a wanna be campfire player at best, but it’s more fun then a frog in a glass of milk.

  • Oroborous
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    Hola Senor Janes

    Good to see ya!
    I think Bob was alluding to what I’ve heard/read all of them say over the years; it got harder and harder to get the band (especially Jerry) to rehearse and some of those songs you just couldn’t do well without rehearsal: LS, Cosmic Charlie, St Stephen etc. Unfortunately another side effect of ole Jer Bears monkey...especially when you consider how hard many of Jer’s parts were on these songs...it’s a bummer but no wonder many of the greats were set aside.

    GUITARS & CADDILACS; used to play all the time. Tried to play guitar for ten years, occasionally professionally, once in the studio....switched to bass and rarely looked back. Did try the solo acoustic/apre thing briefly, but wasn’t that good and it’s really hard carrying the whole show by your self. And Scarry! Don’t have that front man Mojo either “star waaarrrsss, nothing but staaaarrrrr wwwaaaarrrsss” much prefer to play with 3 to 5 people, the interaction is where it’s at. But the rush of playing in a hot band in front of a bunch of people IS uncompareble....talk about a high!
    But yeah, I preferred being in the back row under the dark lights grooving on the Bass. Played that professionally on and off for 20 years, last ten it was my main, though not only job...It was a gas, but after 100-150 nights a year, often at shitty bars and clubs, when your feet are killing you and your back can’t take that heavy lumber anymore, we’ll sometimes it’s a double edge sword doing what you love for a living....unfortunately haven’t really played in like ten years now. Had to TRY and grow up and get a real job....plus after I got booted out of my main gig, eventually all the calls stopped coming as it is a small, close knit group that gets the gigs here.
    I truly miss it in my minds eye, but I don’t miss schlepping that heavy ass gear at 3 in the morning, or getting hassled by the law, or trying to get inspired when your back hurts and it’s late, and there’s only 4 drunks left, but I do miss it.
    GUITARS
    - Ibanez Muscian Series I got in 79 and modified with Alembic circuitry/pickups in 84.
    - Madeira Acoustic
    - 84 Alembic Spoiler 4 string electric Bass
    - Michael Kelly Club Deluxe 5 String Acoustic/Electric Bass. picked this up early century when I was playing a lot to get upright sound etc. Never spent enough on upright to be proficient as it’s physicaly painful, and it’s a drag trying to play live with a loud band. I liked the sound I good get with the Kelly and a Sans Amp tech 21 Acoustic DI. It’s made for Acoustic guitar but works awesome for the Acoustic Bass. Seceret is the adjustable mid....
    shit, ramblin again, sorry, fun topic. DAVEROCK sportin’ the Bobbie Dazzler! Nice axe bra! My guitar teacher always played and sold Gretches. Wish I would of got one, but wanted a Bob Weir Ibenez so bad. Almost had one but got the Muscian series instead. I’ve seen pictures of both Bob and Jerry playing one but not sure what show (s)? Think it was around when Bob was first using Ibenez?

  • wilfredtjones
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    Casey Janes UJB chords and guitars

    There's a B Minor in there somewhere...I think after the G. The riff is fun, too! Don't forget to learn that :-)

    Thanks for sharing info. on your guitars, too. I also have a '96 Washburn (D-20 in Koa). My brother just bought his first guitar, a Seagull S6... :-)

  • Oroborous
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    6/22/83 source

    Yeah I think that’s the same source as I had. As I say at the time it was definetly my best sounding tape which in those days wasn’t saying much, but this one shined! Great show too, and looks like it must of been a great place to freak freely from the news clip.
    So my buddy Doug hooked up with some dude who either was doing the taping or ? Not sure I really knew, but they knew WTF they were doing, had like Nac with sennhieser mics and were usually low generation and near that quality.
    I had the best gear so most of my friends/cousins would bring their new tapes to my house for coping etc so I’d usually get decent generations. Some shows better than others depending on where they were located. Remember, this was before taper section so some diehard pros would poach in front of board, which sometimes was awesome, other times too loud or tone unbalanced etc...
    Anyway, we start getting some killer 83’s, probably end of year I’m guessing. Unfortunately I never got the source guys info and next thing you know ole Doug’s knocked up the bosses daughter, whose family is super religious so shotgun wedding and no more fun for ole druggles, poor bastard! And no more tapes for us! Dooaah
    Funny part was he got our band to play his ultra conservative wedding, but’s that’s a whole nother story for the bonfire....

  • CaseyJanes
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    Hey all, COVID seems to have me busier than I’ve ever been with both the wife and kid working and schooling here at the cave...so I’ve just been lurking here lately on the site, but I have to jump in on a good guitar convo.

    Dennis, I’ve read that 1983 is right around when Gibson started producing great acoustics again, shifting back to some of the methods that they used on 60s flat top guitars. I would love to play that Hummingbird. I’ll bet it sounds awesome, and from knowing what I know of you, it is probably very well cared for! I just recently learned UJB. It was surprisingly (to me at least) very easy to learn and made up of only 5 basic chords (G, D, C, Am, Em) which are some of the first chords (and easiest) that most guitar players will learn. Rhythmically, the toughest part of the song IMO is probably in what would be considered to be the chorus....that is the part that goes “whoa-o what I want to know is ______________....there are some quick chord changes in that line which take some practice, but all in all, not to difficult. That said, singing it and playing at the same time for me is much more difficult. I have only recently been able to incorporate some singing along with my playing and I have been playing for more than 20 years. Some of that I think is confidence factor of worrying about what others think I sound like, which I really don’t give a shit about anymore, but the other part is that rhythmically it is not easy to learn, especially if the song has difficult chord phrasing. Did anyone hear the Bob Weir Shakedown interview from Friday night? He had some interesting comments about Lost Sailor and the reason it didn’t stay around for too long in the bands repertoire. Too difficult to play and the other band members didn’t want to spend the time on it. And we’ve seen that LS has only recently been brought back into D&Cs repertoire. So this got me thinking about the progression of Bob Weirs playing ability. Of course it’s widely know that Bob was nearly kicked out of the band early on because of complaints about his guitar playing. And to be fair he only started playing guitar at the age of 13 and then met Garcia just 3 years later. And any player is going to experience some plateauing, especially early on. That said, it make me wonder if the shift in style on WMD and AB were at least partly made in efforts to help with this handicap as the arrangements are much simpler and back to the basics. (Here is a quote from wiki on the subject:
    “The incident apparently led to a period of significant growth in Weir's guitar playing. Phil Lesh said that when drummer Mickey Hart left the band temporarily in early 1971, he was able to hear Weir's playing more clearly than ever and "I found myself astonished, delighted and excited beyond measure at what Bobby was doing." Lesh described Weir's playing as "quirky, whimsical and goofy" and noted his ability to play chord voicings on the guitar (with only four fingers) that one would normally hear from a keyboard (with up to ten fingers).[13].

    Cousins: what kind of guitars do you own? What gets the most play? Based on your bands genre, I’m going to guess a Fender Telecaster?

    Here are my guitars:

    1). 1996 Washburn Limited Edition Acoustic
    2). 2017 Gibson Les Paul High Performance in Cherry Red Sumburst
    3). Seagull Artist Studio CW Deluxe Element
    4). MJT Custom Telecaster build that is aged vintage relic...Taos Turquoise over 3-Tone burst
    5). Rhino issued Grateful Dead Dancing Bear/Stealie ukulele (don’t really play this one just decoration
    6). I also recently ordered a Taylor GS Mini Koa Plus E with edge burst on my 4 years zero interest Sweetwater card. I needed a good travel guitar and this one gets phenomenal reviews....can’t wait!, but sshhhhhh! Don’t tell Mrs Casey!

    -the one I play the most (currently) is the Seagull...most accessible hanging on the wall right next to the couch in my living room. It has a pick up so I can plug it in but I rarely do as it projects nicely anyway. It as a solid Sitka Spruce Top, with Solid Rosewood back and sides, Mahogany neck and Ebony fingerboard, gold vintage tuners. It’s a beautiful guitar that sounds just as good as it looks.

    Oro - Great repo car story...had me LOL as usual! For those interested, I promise to finish my Gorge story very soon. Fell off the wagon on that one, but the details are still there. Anniversary is also fast approaching....bummed I can’t do the repeat as I planned for Boulder in July...hopefully we can get back at it soon!

    Doc - Great to read your regular posts again. Glad you’re back.

    Be Well Dead People!

    KCJ

    Led Ded: just read your post...couldnt agree more. No better hobby and incredibly gratifying when you are able to overcome a plateau....repitition and practice....I’m at least one hour a day usually early mornings or later at night!

  • LedDed
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    Yes, some of us really play...

    I am a guitar freak. I have about two dozen electrics, two acoustics and a couple basses, untold effects pedals and several amps. I actually do pick up those instruments with my two hands and play the shit out of them, every day, sometimes only for a half hour and other times all day long, esp. on weekends.

    It's the most gratifying hobby I've ever known. When you start out, you suck and sound like shit. Over time, you learn other people's songs, chord changes, scales, etc. One day you find yourself sitting there with a drink and wailing along to "Layla" at full volume, kicking ass and blending right into the record. And then, you start coming up with your own stuff. Some people eschew covers and play as themselves right off, but if there's a kind of music you like, learning that stuff gives you a toolbox of techniques from which to start doing your own thing.

    You get out of it what you put into it, practice practice practice. I don't really practice so much as play, but you hone your skills through repetition and hours devoted as you pick up new things here and there. One of my favorite things is to crank up a "Big River" like the one on One From The Vault, and wail along with Jerry. He was so good in his prime it's sick.

    I'm not in a band. I have a straight job and a family (and a mortgage etc.) However now and again getting in a room with other musicians, especially with drums present, and turning up is as much fun as it looks. Unfortunately it looks like a bleak time right now for anyone struggling to make it as a musician. First album sales were destroyed by the internet and bands had to depend on live concerts and merch sales. What are they going to do now?

    A long time ago, I might have leaned that way, but I'm glad I went with the straight job, keeping the guitar playing on the side, pure artistic expression with no strings attached or record company bullshit. Last, anyone who's always wanted to learn to play the guitar, go buy a decent one and get after it! If you keep with it, it will reward you more than you can imagine.

    \m/

  • Deadheadbrewer
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    Did someone say, "Saint Paul"?

    LOVE that show from '77 (AND the Saint Paul show from the 1978 box), but cannot allow myself to get distracted from my E72 studies. I still need to finish Bickershaw AND Amsterdam, then get to Rotterdam on its anniversary today. The back-to-back concerts on this tour make things difficult . . .

    I didn't get into Grateful Dead until I was 21 (1991), but if I had been born ten or fifteen years earlier, I would have attended those old MN and upper-midwest shows.

  • Cousins Of The…
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    Hey Dennis, I'll take your Hummingbird if it's lonely :-)
    I play guitar in a band(Western Swing/Honky Tonk) , although not sure when we'll be able to play out again this year.

  • Dennis
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    Just got DP29 in from Real Gone Music. I never bought any of the DP's when they were coming out, my buddy was getting them and sending me copies, money was tight and what the hell. In the end, wish I had bought them all as they came. Now I'm too cheap to pay some of the prices I see for complete sets, and the wife would never understand :-).

    I have to say for anyone who hasn't bought these real gone music releases, they did a nice job on it. At first blush I thought the bonus tracks weren't included, but though not listed, they are there. It was 60 bucks from amazon (got a price cut before it shipped!) So maybe I'll look into getting the real gone collection,,,,, if it's cheap enough :-)

    Dave the Rock and the Gretsch - I know Dave's not the only one on these boards who has guitars AND I know absolutely NOTHING about guitars or playing. But I looked up your guitar and yeah, pricey things. The demo's online made it sound very nice. My question, can you really play? I've met many people over the years who have instruments of all types, played "in my youth", they can still strum a few basic cords, but really can't play. I have a Gibson hummingbird my wife gave me back in 83-ish, why, I have no idea. Maybe she thought I develop unknown talents. I told it's a nice guitar, quite a few people have strummed it over they years and say "very nice". But one night at the store a customer who came in all the time (doctor of some sort), had just bought a new hummingbird, asked me bring in my old one. Bastard sat down and knocked out UJB off top of head. Blew me away. BTW - said my old hummingbird was much louder than new ones.

    So Dave, do you play? Also other folks out there, do you really play? I believe some of you are in bands?

    Just curious.

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    The bonus disc is simply amazing! Classic songs/jams and the sound is superb. This was a GRATE addition to a magnificent show. Thank you Dave!

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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Out of the blue felt like hearing fleetwood mac tusk album
Some good tracks
Some sleepy tracks

Looked across the street
Saw a guy who looked like phineas freak about 20 pounds heavier
Lit up his bowl
Lol

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Hope everybody here is ok and staying safe. Also hope that those who struggle find the love needed. My struggles seem so insignificant now.

Haven't posted here a lot lately. Like probably many if not most, I'm pretty fried. So much going on now. Very dark times. Trying to get through and make the best of a fucked situation like we probably all are.

So far I know 5 people who got the virus. 2 have died. Very heartbreaking. I'm sure many of us have lost someone we know through this, even if not necessarily because of the virus. My hearts out to all of you.

Essential workers have proven to be heroes, many not appreciated or compensated as they should. Thank you if you've worked through this.

Regarding the protests, I hope people keep sight of the point of social injustice towards people because of race. Buildings and windows can be replaced. People can't.

I notice that some of the popular "fan run" social media Dead discussion platforms (one of ehich I've discussed here in the past) have been overrun by priveledge and devolved into political angst. Too bad. No surprise. They weren't exactly friendly to fans of era's they don't like so not surprised their sight is now as unGrateful as it gets. I've been on there since that pages inception but haven't posted there a lot after my "era" spats with a couple of the admin there. Racism rears its ugly head everywhere unfortunately. Disappointing.

Regarding Dave's Picks 34. Over the last few months I 've found that '72 - '77 Dead has been hitting my sweet spots. I still and always will love and request more '80s and '90s Dead, but between E72, May 77, PNW, DaPs, Dps, Etc etc, and the often melancholy mood I've been trapped in, I truly find the emotion, nuance, energy, warmth of the recordings...pretty much the full package has reached me in ways that the previous 35+ years of listening to this music. These shows represented in this release sound like pure magic to my ears. At times it's so clear as if Bob is sitting in the same room with me. The sadness in Jerry's voice. Donna at her melodic and harmonic best (and even the screams now hit me). Hard to put into words or express this. It's beautiful. I'll say that.

A moment from a listen to 6/7/77 Winterland to floored me a few minutes ago....Terrapin>Dew. That segway was so perfect. A tear came to my eye.

Man....I miss live music. ;(

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Jim, I’m setting up my tent on the 7th fairway of the frisbee golf course.
It’s the tie-dye tent with the BBQ smoker and the keg of Julius. I also picked up one of those anniversary cakes with doses in the frosting.
Bring your thumping stereo and some fireworks.

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Today is June 6. 1944 marked the day when the good ol' US of A went over across the pond and began to set things right. A lot of people died and the whole sordid affair was ugly and unfortunate, but some times that's the way it goes. I mean, what else can one say?

I would never try to leverage someone's commentary off this forum. If anyone bothered going back, I took a square kick in the balls as some kind of callous, racist ass over my semi-endorsement of policemen and women who are trying to do their job in extraordinary difficult circumstances. I answered, in the only way I know how, lethally and logically like the shitkicking Scorpio I am.

My paternal grandfather was an army MP in WWII who was assigned guard of one of Hitler's captured private railroad cars. Now in my possession handed down from my father is some kind of iron cross medal, as well as a small dagger, swastika embossed. Like an evil letter opener. Apparently my grandpa palmed these items from the rail car and they have ended up with me. I also have a trove of b&w photos of my papa standing amongst bombed out buildings, riding in jeeps, holding his rifle, etc. over in Europe. Given me by my beloved grandmother who is still alive in her 90s in a home and can't see any of us because of this goddamn covid nightmare. Sigh.

Dark? Yes. Weird? Yes also. Valuable? I don't care to know. The last thing in the world I'd do is sell these artifacts. They're gonna gather dust in my safety deposit box until I bequeath them to my sons, and if they have a better idea, so be it. Museum pieces I say - maybe we'll make a group decision to donate them.

My other grandfather was a Marine in the Korean war. He never talked about it...

I could not have more respect for veterans, depending on the veteran. I mean, I don't respect William Calley at My Lai, but then I wasn't there. What a giant can of worms this is.

In short, I was wronged and called out the offending party. Then, going back and re-reading the thread, I felt absolutely justified in defending myself, I'm a two-time Obama voter and no kind of racist dick. But, I could have simply explained myself without taking shots at my aggressor. But I did. And two wrongs, yadda yadda...

These are tough times. It's unfortunate that this dude might not stick around for the olive branch, but it is what it is.

Be well everyone in these times of trouble.

\m/

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Hang in there SpaceBro. I think we are all just trying to get through this year somehow... and do it the best way we know how to causing as little harm as possible and in the odd chance we can do so with grace dignity and style all the better.

JRF/Led, so sorry to see this. I think sometimes intentions get lost through the ether and sometimes things are not perceived as we tried to write them. Words are tricky things. I have re-read my posts from a previous day and thought.. well, that didn't come out exactly as I meant it to. I have also gotten different meanings from others posts than what they intended. Tricky days. I am of the opinion that what most of us share in common outweighs our differences.

Hopefully we can all get through this year with as much grace, dignity and style as possible. Be kind folks, and to all those suffering and hurting, March winds gonna blow all your troubles away..

Crap.. don't post and drive. I think I just parked the beer truck on top of Sixtus' gas grill. At least it wasn't his dog.

So put on your favorite China Rider.. I'm still big on Portland '74 at the moment. And imagine being a headlight on a northbound train. Can't hurt.

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Pretty funny segment on the documentary Soundbreaking talking about the recording of Fleetwood Mac's Tusk album. They interview Lindsey Buckingham and he is excited talking about the sounds he would get by repeatedly chanting a single syllable into a microphone under different conditions and looping the recording at different speeds to get new sounds, made it sound like great fun. Cut to Stevie Nicks and she's basically like, yeah, I was bored to tears, a lot of the recording was just Lindsey laying on the ground going uh-uh-uh-uh-uh into the mic over and over while the rest of the band stood and watched going yeah Lindsey, that's great...and then he'd switch to ah-ah-ah-ah. I'm paraphrasing, and probably not fully conveying the scene, but it was pretty funny.

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Re: DP #34 - Anybody in Ontario, Canada receive theirs yet? Mine was shipped on April 29/20 and still nothing.
Thanks

....and cops kill. Without even blinking an eye. Body Cam? Conveniently off. Badge numbers? Conveniently covered. Take that for what you will.
We are witnessing history. I need a raging China -> Rider.
I got on a changing my avatar daily thing for awhile. It was fun for me. My Floyd avatar is going to stick around. And, no. His first name isn't Pink. Which is a running "joke" I've read on social media.
Hey joeincanada. You gotta spare room?

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...pushes Rumours over the top for me. That song is so good it almost puts me in a trance.
Edit: No almost about it, that tune just melts my brain in the most pleasant of ways.

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...is Ventura 85 quickly becoming one of my top 10's? That "Estimated" and “drums-space” is just wreaking havoc on my vulnerable thinker…but in a good way.

Also…a quick glance at the calendar reminds me it’s time again to raise a glass--a toast/moment of silence to the Americans who stormed Normandy and literally helped save the world! Here’s to you!

And lastly friends, ...I've been here a while, seen some shit, and I can assure you I never have/never will attempt to run anybody off this board for stating their opinion. And let it be known I'm not easily offended. Say what you will, especially if that rant helps/or assists you maintain a positive mental state. Sometimes you got to vent. So let it out... However, I do come here for/and do prefer the music talk...and you guys are the absolute experts!

Now who needs a drink!?! I'm buying.........

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One of the things I liked about Ventura, was that they sold beer there, you couldn't buy beer at the Frost or the Greek.. When we were driving down to Ventura in 82 , Steve Wozniak drove by us , he was probably going down South to work on the U.S. festival. In 1985, there were lots of fires in the hills in Ventura County, that's why the Dead did Fire on the Mountain for their second song that year.

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I think most people on here know the difference between how the Dead sounded in, say, 1970, compared to how they sounded in 1990, to pick two dates at random. Why do we need to have anything more in common than that? The greater the range of opinions expressed in any group, the more interesting that group is likely to be. Imagine only being with people who were exactly like you ! Ghastly.

I can't remember where I read the phrase, but I always liked it - we are all the same, with infinite diversity.

DAVEROCK
I’m sure it isn’t what you were thinking of but there is the Vulcan phrase in Star Trek ‘Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations’.

D-Day
While a large number of Americans ‘crossed the pond’ that happened before D-Day and it was allied troops that landed on the beaches. A lot of work had been done prior to the invasion by SOE operatives working with the French Resistance and it shouldn’t be forgotten that the number of troops faced by the allies was made much smaller than it might have been by the need for Axis troops to be on the Eastern front where they were being pushed back by the Red Army. Remember that the Russians were on our side back then. Things go better when we cooperate. Isolationism is always a mistake.

Last 5
Bass Works - James Tenney
Crippled Symmetry - Morton Feldman
Red Cross - John Fahey
Music of Epirus Vol 1 1925 - 1940 - Various Artists, who could fail to like a song called ‘Peasant Girl, they’ve taken the sheep’
Free Jazz - Ornette Coleman

So much music, so little time.

,a happy grateful Sunday to all my brothers and sisters out there in deadland! Hope to find everyone is well and enjoying the great outdoors this weekend & some Good Ol’ Grateful Dead music as your soundtrack !
I agree with Daverocks point of view , I believe there is a beautiful group of members on ths grateful forum. And like any family we are bound to bump heads & disagree with another’s feelings and opinions , that’s life. What counts at the end of the day is we can All walk away peacefully & civilly towards each other and keeping an open mind is a great rule of thumb 👍
Have a grateful day folks, keep on trucking!

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Funny you mention Pink. A couple of weeks ago(?), I was telling my buddy how I keep getting email mails about George Floyd. Because of what ever mental condition I have, I always read half-ass. First I see George and thinks it's about my buddy, then another part sees Floyd and of course I think Pink. He sent me a pic of a black guy at the protest with a pink Floyd shirt on! Said, I guess he makes the mistake too!

Side note - whenever I see banter back and forth about meaning lost in translation, I think of Inherit The Wind with Spencer Tracy. Many good quotes, here's one.

Henry Drummond: I don’t swear for the hell of it. Language is a poor enough means of communication. We’ve got to use all the words we’ve got. Besides, there are damn few words anybody understands.

Inherit the Wind

Ok, one more from that movie that always springs to mind.

Henry Drummond: The Bible is a book. It’s a good book, but it is not the only book.

People do not come to the Internet so that their bad information can be corrected or their cherished theories disproven. Rather, they ask the electronic oracle to confirm them in their ignorance.

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... Denice post, “People do not come to the Internet so that their bad information can be corrected or their cherished theories disproven. Rather, they ask the electronic oracle to confirm them in their ignorance.”
...what the F—- does that really mean?! Lol lmao ha ha ... I’m not laughing at you , don’t take this the wrong way, I’m laughing at myself because your last paragraph you wrote flew right over my “Bain-Dead DeadHead!” 😂🙏❤️💀🌹

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Fascinating piece in my newspaper. The last person claiming a civil war pension has recently died. Her father was over 80 when she was born. He fought on both sides in the war.

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Roger Water’s 2020 tour was supposed to start in a few weeks, but got pushed back to 2021 due to coronavirus.
I suspect that Roger will use the time to rework the show and include references to George, Ahmaud, and others now that the world has changed so much since Roger first planned the show.

It seems to be a good thing that there are millions of cellphone cameras around the world.
The camera doesn’t lie, but people do.

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I’m watching a documentary on the tv at the moment ‘Come Together: The Rise of the Festival’ and they’re talking about Woodstock and in the background Jefferson Airplane are singing a song from Volunteers. The subtitles show them singing ‘All the tears of America’ repeatedly. I know that subtitles are to help the hard of hearing but I didn’t realise they were written by them as well :)
Stay safe, maintain social distancing and be kind.

"True knowledge leads to Love," Wordsworth 1798.

Colin, no, my earlier quote wasn't inspired by Star Trek. Though I'm temped to pretend it was.

“If you love somebody, let them go, for if they return, they were always yours. If they don't, they never were.”
― Kahlil Gibran

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DaveRock, nice to see you bringing up Wordsworth, he was the first poet that really clicked for me, Tintern Abbey being the poem that made me go hmmm... Kind of opened my eyes to poetry in general as worth checking out. One of my most cherished possessions is a copy of The Works of Wordworth published in 1896 and marked with the name of two maternal relatives, the first dated '97 (1897) and the second of whom I met when she was an old woman and I later acquired the book while helping clean out her house after she died in the 1980s. Sometimes these threads send you down some random pathway of memory.
Spun the second disc of 2/27/69 yesterday while running some errands, that Dark Star never disappoints.

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Everywhere I hear the sound of marchin'
Chargin' feet boy
'cause summer's here
and the time is right
for fighting in the street boy

Song lyrix
Not a call to arms

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I just noticed the shows you attended and realized I went to about half as many but on the east coast. How do you remember all the dates. Ticket stubs were not really cared about back then so I only found about a dozen in my back pocket of my Jean's on occasions. Its amazing how corrupt times have become since the days of mail-order or record store ticket sales that had a hundred people waiting in line all day. The worst part is the convenience fee or some other buzzword they use to add on to the ticket price. I call it the push-the-button-for-the-ticket-to pop-up-fee which was 50 cents per ticket in the 80s and now its like 40% or more of the actual ticket price added on. I would never give them the satisfaction of this corruption and I'm not a cheapskate at all but charging almost $800.00 for 4 people to see a concert that lasts an hour. I think not. I cant comment on dead and co. Because I never went to see them since 95'. I miss poor jerry.

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....i remember because is still have every ticket stub except my first one.

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https://youtu.be/edndNOfBI0U
....chills and goosebumps. Sadness yet hope. If there is any youtube video out there that needs more likes and views, its that one.

Bonus points for the incredible editing.

The police know they have cameras aimed at them at all times, and give zero fucks. Especially that one cop reaching into the car window and beating the driver. Probably beats his wife too. Fuck that guy.

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Beautiful books have always been among my most treasured possessions, too. Poetry, like rock n' roll, adds meaning to life for me.
At the other end of the spectrum, I have always hated mobile phones. Walking round London ( in those distant days when you could) everywhere you went, seemingly, people were looking at their phones as they walked along, stopping only to record things on them And yet...recent footage has show that films taken on such things can actually be agents for social change. Hopefully.

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Big black cop on NYPD Blue, right?

I think he said in one episode, "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced." I think he was going home to talk to the wife about sleeping with her sister.? I could be wrong.

I heard Bruce Willis has sung with the Allmans, fat fucking chance there, huh!

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Sad to say I'm such an asshole romantic, that I have every stub of every event me and "she who must be obeyed" have been to,,,,, more or less. All stubs go in my "junk" drawer in my dresser, there is shit in there that predates both wives!

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I hope you dont have any love letters that predate both wives in that same drawer. I found some of mine from my teen girlfriends back in the day. It's funny to see how I thought about love when I was a teenager 35 or more years ago.

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James Baldwin, writer and activist

1924-1987

Hes the guy at the start of the video posted by vguy

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I bought a copy of "Another Country", one of his novels, about 10 years ago, and still haven't got round to reading it. Maybe now is the time. Thanks for jogging my memory.

Incidentally, Tintern Abbey, the poem by Wordsworth mentioned by Charlie, is the last one in the collection of Coleridge/Wordsworth poems-"Lyrical Ballads" that I am reading. If Robert Hunter hadn't read and digested these, I'll eat my face mask.

..., oh David, you made me spit my organic coffee from the rich mountains of Peru all over my self and the kitchen cabinets lol ha ha thank is a good one, my friend! Thank you for some good ol healthy laughter this grateful morning. 🙏😂💀🌹

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I've just finished listening to the whole show. Row Jimmy is absolut fantastic, so much feeling in it.
Thank you Jerry.
And still waiting for the postman to deliver DaP 34!!!

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It’s never good to get a demand for money, but having just given Royal Mail £13.54 I can now expect DaP34 to arrive on Wednesday. Something to look forward to. Dylan and Neil Young albums due at the end of next week so life is good.

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If you’re in the U.K. Rough Trade are offering the vinyl version of Portland at reduced cost:

https://www.roughtrade.com/gb/grateful-dead/portland-memorial-coliseum-…

Also, on topic my copy of DaP34 arrived today. £13.52 customs charge which is not too bad. Just listened to the bonus disc which is pretty fine. Great version of China/Rider.

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It finally arrived and it was worth the wait. This is a great show, beautiful sound and, for me, some stand out versions. 'To Lay Me Down' and 'Ship Of Fools', to name but two, are excellent but the entire show is worthy. Thanks to everyone who brought us this gem.

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I'm still looking for someone to help me straighten out my Longfellow.

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Was that a little Rod going back to school lol

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You nailed it. Here's another gem from that one:

Bring us a pitcher of beer every seven minutes until somebody passes out. And then bring one every ten minutes.

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What a talent that guy was.. What memories... without comedy is like life before technicolor.

I could go on, but in my life my favorites were, in no particular order....

Carlin
Pryor
Chapelle
Dangerfield
Williams
Hon Mention
Silverman

Thank you for posting that video...that song from 1991 paired with those images from the past week and half... so powerful. Sadly, it also shows how little progress we've made.

Peace

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Jim, love every one on your list. Franklin Ajaye was another great one.
None of these would have been possible without Lenny Bruce.
So......what’s #35 gonna be??

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